El Paso shooter pic here we go again

[jbluhm86]

@oldbrownsfan said:

From the article I posted it states the manifesto bleeds with outright racist language..sounds like more honest journalism than you get from the MSM to me.. sounds like just stating facts and not sugar coating anything ..as usual there are always two sides to a story 

And you're the one accusing Woody of being spoonfed a narrative? I don't know if you're oblivious or just a hack at this point...

[OldBrownsFan]

@jbluhm86 said:

And you're the one accusing Woody of being spoonfed a narrative? I don't know if you're oblivious or just a hack at this point...

The article I posted gives both sides something missing from the MSM most of the time. Unless you don't think a person can be a progressive leftist and a racist at the same time. This killer shows you can be both actually.

[Clevfan4life]

@jbluhm86 said:

Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

ahahaha

[Clevfan4life]

the original obf must have died or somerhing and the buddy buddy board vets decided they cant lose voices over at the poly board or "the young leftys will run everything"

im convinced we're all talking to like 2 maybe 3 kunts at the most

[OldBrownsFan]

@clevfan4life said:

ahahaha

That is your big comeback. More of the great intellect from the left ?

[Westside Steve]

@jbluhm86 said:

Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if the irony of that statement (given the banding together of everyone on the left with even slightly similar skin color banding together against those less pigmented) escaped you.

WSS

[Chemist]

@jbluhm86 said:

Yeah, I forgot that white supremacy and a  “cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion [of illegal immigrants],” was a leftist position. Give me a fuckin' break.

They’re not conservative positions either. 

[OldBrownsFan]

@clevfan4life said:

the original obf must have died or somerhing and the buddy buddy board vets decided they cant lose voices over at the poly board or "the young leftys will run everything"

im convinced we're all talking to like 2 maybe 3 kunts at the most

I don't get where you are coming from. The killer was obviously a racist and he had some liberal progressive views..I don't see it as a hard read from his own words. 

[Westside Steve]

@clevfan4life said:

the original obf must have died or somerhing and the buddy buddy board vets decided they cant lose voices over at the poly board or "the young leftys will run everything"

im convinced we're all talking to like 2 maybe 3 kunts at the most

?

You poor thing.

WSS

[tiamat63]

@chemist said:

They’re not conservative positions either. 

Can confirm.

But the board republicans echo the "invasion" thought's just as this man did.   Yes, there is a difference between the two.  

 That said, the man's politics mean nothing to the victims and their families.  It won't help ease their loss.     What needs to be done is the most extreme sides of the political spectrum, both left and right, need not be entertained.    Maxine Waters and her "get in their face comments" should be denounced by all.   Trump when hearing a rally attendee scream "shoot them" and the lot reacting with laughter is when a good leader speaks out.  

Words matter.  Especially when they're words from, echoed or silently supported by our elected officials.   No, I'm not singling out the POTUS in all this.  However he is going to go get the brunt of the microscope because he holds the highest office in the land.

Ever notice JF posting his bullshit on this board?  I'm not calling him a white supremacist or terrorist, but the 4chan, 8chan, dark internet/twitter crowd he can echo at times is a breeding ground for guys like this.   Dudes who desperately want to be apart of something, see that material, then feel like they are and that's it's a big deal.   In the end, it's mostly about identity and attention.   This is not the identity we want people clinging too.   Especially those that are a bit fucked in the head to begin with.

[OldBrownsFan]

@tiamat63 said:

Can confirm.

But the board republicans echo the "invasion" thought's just as this man did.   Yes, there is a difference between the two.  

 That said, the man's politics mean nothing to the victims and their families.  It won't help ease their loss.     What needs to be done is the most extreme sides of the political spectrum, both left and right, need not be entertained.    Maxine Waters and her "get in their face comments" should be denounced by all.   Trump when hearing a rally attendee scream "shoot them" and the lot reacting with laughter is when a good leader speaks out.  

Words matter.  Especially when they're words from, echoed or silently supported by our elected officials.   No, I'm not singling out the POTUS in all this.  However he is going to go get the brunt of the microscope because he holds the highest office in the land.

Ever notice JF posting his bullshit on this board?  I'm not calling him a white supremacist or terrorist, but the 4chan, 8chan, dark internet/twitter crowd he can echo at times is a breeding ground for guys like this.   Dudes who desperately want to be apart of something, see that material, then feel like they are and that's it's a big deal.   In the end, it's mostly about identity and attention.   This is not the identity we want people clinging too.   Especially those that are a bit fucked in the head to begin with.

A good thought out response Tiam but when I see hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants  crossing the border illegally and call it an invasion I think I am being factual more than anything else. 

[Canton Dawg]

@clevfan4life said:

over how msny instances were those 293 people murdered? oh and were tbey just random shootings? did one black guy shoot another black guy cause they thought he was too.light skinned? or were these directed gang/drug related hits?

You tell me Clevis, you have a dead body as the end result.

[tiamat63]

@oldbrownsfan said:

A good thought out response Tiam but when I see hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants  crossing the border illegally and call it an invasion I think I am being factual more than anything else. 

Are you seeing this yourself or hearing it?   Also where is this number coming from and is there a timeframe? Because you're making it sound like the siege of the alamo and that is simply not the truth.  

Look, the border situation isn't... ideal.    I can't say this enough, INS, BP and the like need a massive 'going over'.   They do... plain and simple.  A wall won't pay for itself especially when attempting one of the largest in the history of this planet coupled with the inefficiencies of our government.   At the end of the day, the big argument I see on illegal immigration is the money before potential crime.   So if your stance is how they "bleed the system", then a wall isn't the answer.    

Then again, I hold "invasion" at a dictionary standard, I suppose.        But again, I don't hold the President responsible for this man in El Paso and no sane person should.   But our leaders, both far and wide, local, state and federal need to learn that there are minds out there which see any little potential condoning or dismissing of violence as a beacon for evil action(S).  They're drawn to it because they feel they're effecting a difference.

I don't know the totality of the solution and won't pretend to.  But I feel it starts with ourselves which is why I'm so picky on whom I vote for. 

[JAFBF]

@tiamat63 said:

Waiting for JF's grand tinfoil hat conspiracy.

Ya'll have no idea what's been found already.

.   .   .   and you know what they say about payback   .   .   .   that too may have started, that Pill's swelling up right now with just the few tidbits I've seen.

[jbluhm86]

@oldbrownsfan said:

I don't get where you are coming from. The killer was obviously a racist and he had some liberal progressive views..I don't see it as a hard read from his own words. 

White supremacy is a liberal progressive view now? Must've missed the memo on that one. 

[tiamat63]

@jafbf said:

Ya'll have no idea what's been found already.

.   .   .   and you know what they say about payback   .   .   .   that too may have started, that Pill's swelling up right now with just the few tidbits I've seen.

This is the shit I'm talking about right here, folks.

Meanwhile I bet there's still a Marine incursion in Virginia, eh champ?

[OldBrownsFan]

@tiamat63 said:

Are you seeing this yourself or hearing it?   Also where is this number coming from and is there a timeframe? Because you're making it sound like the siege of the alamo and that is simply not the truth.  

Look, the border situation isn't... ideal.    I can't say this enough, INS, BP and the like need a massive 'going over'.   They do... plain and simple.  A wall won't pay for itself especially when attempting one of the largest in the history of this planet coupled with the inefficiencies of our government.   At the end of the day, the big argument I see on illegal immigration is the money before potential crime.   So if your stance is how they "bleed the system", then a wall isn't the answer.    

Then again, I hold "invasion" at a dictionary standard, I suppose.        But again, I don't hold the President responsible for this man in El Paso and no sane person should.   But our leaders, both far and wide, local, state and federal need to learn that there are minds out there which see any little potential condoning or dismissing of violence as a beacon for evil action(S).  They're drawn to it because they feel they're effecting a difference.

I don't know the totality of the solution and won't pretend to.  But I feel it starts with ourselves which is why I'm so picky on whom I vote for. 

Invasion? When I use the word I feel like I am using it correctly. 

[jbluhm86]

@tiamat63 said:

This is the shit I'm talking about right here, folks.

Meanwhile I bet there's still a Marine incursion in Virginia, eh champ?

Well, guys like JAFBF and Alex Jones said that the government were making human-animal hybrids and we laughed them off, but turns out it might be true, so who knows wtf is true anymore. We're living in the reality where Biff kept the sports almanac. ?

[OldBrownsFan]

@jbluhm86 said:

White supremacy is a liberal progressive view now? Must've missed the memo on that one. 

The right question is can one be a liberal progressive and a white supremacist?  This murderer seems to fit that bill.

[Chemist]

@tiamat63 said:

Are you seeing this yourself or hearing it?   Also where is this number coming from and is there a timeframe? Because you're making it sound like the siege of the alamo and that is simply not the truth.  

Look, the border situation isn't... ideal.    I can't say this enough, INS, BP and the like need a massive 'going over'.   They do... plain and simple.  A wall won't pay for itself especially when attempting one of the largest in the history of this planet coupled with the inefficiencies of our government.   At the end of the day, the big argument I see on illegal immigration is the money before potential crime.   So if your stance is how they "bleed the system", then a wall isn't the answer.    

Then again, I hold "invasion" at a dictionary standard, I suppose.        But again, I don't hold the President responsible for this man in El Paso and no sane person should.   But our leaders, both far and wide, local, state and federal need to learn that there are minds out there which see any little potential condoning or dismissing of violence as a beacon for evil action(S).  They're drawn to it because they feel they're effecting a difference.

I don't know the totality of the solution and won't pretend to.  But I feel it starts with ourselves which is why I'm so picky on whom I vote for. 

Illegal immigration needs to stop. There should be no pathway to citizenship (besides honorable discharge from the military). Illegal immigration and a prolonged pathway to citizenship creates a secondary, lower class of people. Close the border and streamline the legal immigration process.