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  • Waiting for JF's grand tinfoil hat conspiracy.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Waiting for JF's grand tinfoil hat conspiracy.

    Ya'll have no idea what's been found already.

    image.png.97d9de3332b27a2a4a44ed97b645752e.png

    .   .   .   and you know what they say about payback   .   .   .   that too may have started, that Pill's swelling up right now with just the few tidbits I've seen.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    the original obf must have died or somerhing and the buddy buddy board vets decided they cant lose voices over at the poly board or "the young leftys will run everything"

    im convinced we're all talking to like 2 maybe 3 kunts at the most

    I don't get where you are coming from. The killer was obviously a racist and he had some liberal progressive views..I don't see it as a hard read from his own words. 

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I don't get where you are coming from. The killer was obviously a racist and he had some liberal progressive views..I don't see it as a hard read from his own words. 

    White supremacy is a liberal progressive view now? Must've missed the memo on that one. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Waiting for JF's grand tinfoil hat conspiracy.

    Ya'll have no idea what's been found already.

    image.png.97d9de3332b27a2a4a44ed97b645752e.png

    .   .   .   and you know what they say about payback   .   .   .   that too may have started, that Pill's swelling up right now with just the few tidbits I've seen.

    @jafbf said:

    Ya'll have no idea what's been found already.

    image.png.97d9de3332b27a2a4a44ed97b645752e.png

    .   .   .   and you know what they say about payback   .   .   .   that too may have started, that Pill's swelling up right now with just the few tidbits I've seen.

    This is the shit I'm talking about right here, folks.

    Meanwhile I bet there's still a Marine incursion in Virginia, eh champ?

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    A good thought out response Tiam but when I see hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants  crossing the border illegally and call it an invasion I think I am being factual more than anything else. 

    Are you seeing this yourself or hearing it?   Also where is this number coming from and is there a timeframe? Because you're making it sound like the siege of the alamo and that is simply not the truth.  

    Look, the border situation isn't... ideal.    I can't say this enough, INS, BP and the like need a massive 'going over'.   They do... plain and simple.  A wall won't pay for itself especially when attempting one of the largest in the history of this planet coupled with the inefficiencies of our government.   At the end of the day, the big argument I see on illegal immigration is the money before potential crime.   So if your stance is how they "bleed the system", then a wall isn't the answer.    

    Then again, I hold "invasion" at a dictionary standard, I suppose.        But again, I don't hold the President responsible for this man in El Paso and no sane person should.   But our leaders, both far and wide, local, state and federal need to learn that there are minds out there which see any little potential condoning or dismissing of violence as a beacon for evil action(S).  They're drawn to it because they feel they're effecting a difference.

    I don't know the totality of the solution and won't pretend to.  But I feel it starts with ourselves which is why I'm so picky on whom I vote for. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Are you seeing this yourself or hearing it?   Also where is this number coming from and is there a timeframe? Because you're making it sound like the siege of the alamo and that is simply not the truth.  

    Look, the border situation isn't... ideal.    I can't say this enough, INS, BP and the like need a massive 'going over'.   They do... plain and simple.  A wall won't pay for itself especially when attempting one of the largest in the history of this planet coupled with the inefficiencies of our government.   At the end of the day, the big argument I see on illegal immigration is the money before potential crime.   So if your stance is how they "bleed the system", then a wall isn't the answer.    

    Then again, I hold "invasion" at a dictionary standard, I suppose.        But again, I don't hold the President responsible for this man in El Paso and no sane person should.   But our leaders, both far and wide, local, state and federal need to learn that there are minds out there which see any little potential condoning or dismissing of violence as a beacon for evil action(S).  They're drawn to it because they feel they're effecting a difference.

    I don't know the totality of the solution and won't pretend to.  But I feel it starts with ourselves which is why I'm so picky on whom I vote for. 

    Invasion? When I use the word I feel like I am using it correctly. 

  • @jafbf said:

    Ya'll have no idea what's been found already.

    image.png.97d9de3332b27a2a4a44ed97b645752e.png

    .   .   .   and you know what they say about payback   .   .   .   that too may have started, that Pill's swelling up right now with just the few tidbits I've seen.

    This is the shit I'm talking about right here, folks.

    Meanwhile I bet there's still a Marine incursion in Virginia, eh champ?

    @tiamat63 said:

    This is the shit I'm talking about right here, folks.

    Meanwhile I bet there's still a Marine incursion in Virginia, eh champ?

    Well, guys like JAFBF and Alex Jones said that the government were making human-animal hybrids and we laughed them off, but turns out it might be true, so who knows wtf is true anymore. We're living in the reality where Biff kept the sports almanac. ?

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    I don't get where you are coming from. The killer was obviously a racist and he had some liberal progressive views..I don't see it as a hard read from his own words. 

    White supremacy is a liberal progressive view now? Must've missed the memo on that one. 

    @jbluhm86 said:

    White supremacy is a liberal progressive view now? Must've missed the memo on that one. 

    The right question is can one be a liberal progressive and a white supremacist?  This murderer seems to fit that bill.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    A good thought out response Tiam but when I see hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants  crossing the border illegally and call it an invasion I think I am being factual more than anything else. 

    Are you seeing this yourself or hearing it?   Also where is this number coming from and is there a timeframe? Because you're making it sound like the siege of the alamo and that is simply not the truth.  

    Look, the border situation isn't... ideal.    I can't say this enough, INS, BP and the like need a massive 'going over'.   They do... plain and simple.  A wall won't pay for itself especially when attempting one of the largest in the history of this planet coupled with the inefficiencies of our government.   At the end of the day, the big argument I see on illegal immigration is the money before potential crime.   So if your stance is how they "bleed the system", then a wall isn't the answer.    

    Then again, I hold "invasion" at a dictionary standard, I suppose.        But again, I don't hold the President responsible for this man in El Paso and no sane person should.   But our leaders, both far and wide, local, state and federal need to learn that there are minds out there which see any little potential condoning or dismissing of violence as a beacon for evil action(S).  They're drawn to it because they feel they're effecting a difference.

    I don't know the totality of the solution and won't pretend to.  But I feel it starts with ourselves which is why I'm so picky on whom I vote for. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Are you seeing this yourself or hearing it?   Also where is this number coming from and is there a timeframe? Because you're making it sound like the siege of the alamo and that is simply not the truth.  

    Look, the border situation isn't... ideal.    I can't say this enough, INS, BP and the like need a massive 'going over'.   They do... plain and simple.  A wall won't pay for itself especially when attempting one of the largest in the history of this planet coupled with the inefficiencies of our government.   At the end of the day, the big argument I see on illegal immigration is the money before potential crime.   So if your stance is how they "bleed the system", then a wall isn't the answer.    

    Then again, I hold "invasion" at a dictionary standard, I suppose.        But again, I don't hold the President responsible for this man in El Paso and no sane person should.   But our leaders, both far and wide, local, state and federal need to learn that there are minds out there which see any little potential condoning or dismissing of violence as a beacon for evil action(S).  They're drawn to it because they feel they're effecting a difference.

    I don't know the totality of the solution and won't pretend to.  But I feel it starts with ourselves which is why I'm so picky on whom I vote for. 

    Illegal immigration needs to stop. There should be no pathway to citizenship (besides honorable discharge from the military). Illegal immigration and a prolonged pathway to citizenship creates a secondary, lower class of people. Close the border and streamline the legal immigration process. 

  • Look at all this fake outrage.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    I just that if you insist on pointing fingers every time something happens it becomes a roadblock to any genuine solution. It becomes an exercise in blaming people who aren't actually responsible for actions perpetrated by people they share some similarities with. I do believe that very thing more than any other has fueled the "white supremacist" problem that's currently a thing. When it's in vogue to tell one group of people that they're purely awful and responsible for all the evils of the world sooner or later they're going to start acting the part.

    Idk man, that's getting awfully close towards "poor white males" getting the victim card. This terrorist. 

    I just have a hard time sympathizing with any white male that thinks they're being discriminated against or something. We never get held responsible for the actions of an individual. Not really at least. Just some Twitter folks. A lot of minorities though actually deal with that shit all of the time. 

    And before the obvious gets brought up I don't think that's the same as the radicalization of those in the middle East. 

    Pointing fingers is a roadblock, for sure. But you need to figure out root causes. Ask why. Etc.

    @mld-woody said:

    Idk man, that's getting awfully close towards "poor white males" getting the victim card. This terrorist. 

    I just have a hard time sympathizing with any white male that thinks they're being discriminated against or something. We never get held responsible for the actions of an individual. Not really at least. Just some Twitter folks. A lot of minorities though actually deal with that shit all of the time. 

    And before the obvious gets brought up I don't think that's the same as the radicalization of those in the middle East. 

    Pointing fingers is a roadblock, for sure. But you need to figure out root causes. Ask why. Etc.

    If you dont think white males are getting an unfair amount of blame for mass shootings you don't know a lot about mass shootings: how they're classified, who they're perpetrated by. 

    https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/who-are-mass-shooters-mass-shooter-demographics-part-2/

    I'll point you to that again but I can't make you read it. That's simply part 2 of 3. I'd recommend you do get to know as much as you can. 

    And no, I'm not gonna go: "aw shucks us white people got it comin'" 

    No one else would do that. I'm not going to either. 

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    White supremacy is a liberal progressive view now? Must've missed the memo on that one. 

    The right question is can one be a liberal progressive and a white supremacist?  This murderer seems to fit that bill.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    The right question is can one be a liberal progressive and a white supremacist?  This murderer seems to fit that bill.

    No.... He doesn't

    Read the thing yourself

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Are you seeing this yourself or hearing it?   Also where is this number coming from and is there a timeframe? Because you're making it sound like the siege of the alamo and that is simply not the truth.  

    Look, the border situation isn't... ideal.    I can't say this enough, INS, BP and the like need a massive 'going over'.   They do... plain and simple.  A wall won't pay for itself especially when attempting one of the largest in the history of this planet coupled with the inefficiencies of our government.   At the end of the day, the big argument I see on illegal immigration is the money before potential crime.   So if your stance is how they "bleed the system", then a wall isn't the answer.    

    Then again, I hold "invasion" at a dictionary standard, I suppose.        But again, I don't hold the President responsible for this man in El Paso and no sane person should.   But our leaders, both far and wide, local, state and federal need to learn that there are minds out there which see any little potential condoning or dismissing of violence as a beacon for evil action(S).  They're drawn to it because they feel they're effecting a difference.

    I don't know the totality of the solution and won't pretend to.  But I feel it starts with ourselves which is why I'm so picky on whom I vote for. 

    Illegal immigration needs to stop. There should be no pathway to citizenship (besides honorable discharge from the military). Illegal immigration and a prolonged pathway to citizenship creates a secondary, lower class of people. Close the border and streamline the legal immigration process. 

    @chemist said:

    Illegal immigration needs to stop. There should be no pathway to citizenship (besides honorable discharge from the military). Illegal immigration and a prolonged pathway to citizenship creates a secondary, lower class of people. Close the border and streamline the legal immigration process. 

    Uhhhh....sure.

    Uhhh..... sure?

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    White supremacy is a liberal progressive view now? Must've missed the memo on that one. 

    The right question is can one be a liberal progressive and a white supremacist?  This murderer seems to fit that bill.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    The right question is can one be a liberal progressive and a white supremacist?  This murderer seems to fit that bill.

    Well, I'm glad to see that you've magically discovered the concept of "nuance" only when it's a white guy blowing away Hispanics because his liberal ideology tells him to fear a "Hispanic invasion'...

  • @chemist said:

    Illegal immigration needs to stop. There should be no pathway to citizenship (besides honorable discharge from the military). Illegal immigration and a prolonged pathway to citizenship creates a secondary, lower class of people. Close the border and streamline the legal immigration process. 

    Uhhhh....sure.

    Uhhh..... sure?

    @tiamat63 said:

    Uhhhh....sure.

    Uhhh..... sure?

    Correct me if I'm wrong but does this sarcasm, if I may call it such,* mean that you don't think the Border should be secure and legal immigration should be streamlined? Otherwise it's kind of like a very short statute of limitations for Grand Theft Auto. Steal a car keep it hidden for a year and it's yours.

    Plus honorable discharge seems like a reasonable credit toward citizenship, doesn't it?

    WSS

    * 1000 points for that reference

  • @fairhooker11 said:

    i take exception to it being "right wing" 

    the link source did better in that it didnt mention "right wing" 

    but keep the hate rhetoric going  - itll get us nowhere...

    So when nutjobs in Antifa attack people, it's called left-wing/leftie/libtard violence by people on here, but now that it's right-wingers in El Paso pulling the trigger, I'm keeping the "hate rhetoric going". Give me a break. I'm calling it for what it is: extremist, anti-immigrant right-wing violence, fueled by rhetoric coming from the right-wing community.

    And frankly, I don't really give two fucks if you take exception to it being called that or not.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    So when nutjobs in Antifa attack people, it's called left-wing/leftie/libtard violence by people on here, but now that it's right-wingers in El Paso pulling the trigger, I'm keeping the "hate rhetoric going". Give me a break. I'm calling it for what it is: extremist, anti-immigrant right-wing violence, fueled by rhetoric coming from the right-wing community.

    And frankly, I don't really give two fucks if you take exception to it being called that or not.

    congratulations for your coming out party - you went full libtard

    never mind that you DID fuel the narrative as did your "stellar" opinion pieces or whatever drivel you chose to use to make sure we all knew it was a "right winger" 

    will love to see the outcome when all is figured out by investigation...

    Gabby Giffords shooter was also called a "right winger"  dude didnt know what day it was!

    nevermind also that while I did agree that the gunman is a sick twisted individual. I wouldnt use a broadbrush SLAM on the conservative thinking folks

    like all the other lefty lemmings here - before all the facts are in

    (red pill is a bitch)

  • All you pathetic white boy liberals go fuck yourselves.

  • Fox ended anti immigration coverage at the border to report on an anti immigration terrorist

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    The right question is can one be a liberal progressive and a white supremacist?  This murderer seems to fit that bill.

    Well, I'm glad to see that you've magically discovered the concept of "nuance" only when it's a white guy blowing away Hispanics because his liberal ideology tells him to fear a "Hispanic invasion'...

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Well, I'm glad to see that you've magically discovered the concept of "nuance" only when it's a white guy blowing away Hispanics because his liberal ideology tells him to fear a "Hispanic invasion'...

    I'm sure this isn't what you're saying but it doesn't matter who's getting shot up or why. Assigning intrinsic worth to human life based on race, religion or Creed is racist? discriminatory?  It's saying that shooting a white person is not as bad as a minority or religious minority. I think that is a narrative that should be roundly rejected by everyone. Shooting any people should be equally damnable. If we're going to assign value to human life nothing is as evil and devastating as Newtown but we failed to address an obvious problem when twenty 6 year olds were blown away. I doubt making them Hispanic is going to drum up the necessary anger to really do anything except score political points which is exactly what all the politicians are rushing to do.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Uhhhh....sure.

    Uhhh..... sure?

    Correct me if I'm wrong but does this sarcasm, if I may call it such,* mean that you don't think the Border should be secure and legal immigration should be streamlined? Otherwise it's kind of like a very short statute of limitations for Grand Theft Auto. Steal a car keep it hidden for a year and it's yours.

    Plus honorable discharge seems like a reasonable credit toward citizenship, doesn't it?

    WSS

    * 1000 points for that reference

    @westside-steve said:

    Correct me if I'm wrong but does this sarcasm, if I may call it such,* mean that you don't think the Border should be secure and legal immigration should be streamlined? Otherwise it's kind of like a very short statute of limitations for Grand Theft Auto. Steal a car keep it hidden for a year and it's yours.

    Plus honorable discharge seems like a reasonable credit toward citizenship, doesn't it?

    WSS

    * 1000 points for that reference

    You know my stance on that as I've spelled it out on this board numerous times.  Even in discussion with you.  

    Service should be automatic citizenship.  Unfortunately there are instances where it hasn't been.

  • Fox ended anti immigration coverage at the border to report on an anti immigration terrorist

    @mld-woody said:

    Fox ended anti immigration coverage at the border to report on an anti immigration terrorist

    Anti illegal immigration*

  • @westside-steve said:

    Correct me if I'm wrong but does this sarcasm, if I may call it such,* mean that you don't think the Border should be secure and legal immigration should be streamlined? Otherwise it's kind of like a very short statute of limitations for Grand Theft Auto. Steal a car keep it hidden for a year and it's yours.

    Plus honorable discharge seems like a reasonable credit toward citizenship, doesn't it?

    WSS

    * 1000 points for that reference

    You know my stance on that as I've spelled it out on this board numerous times.  Even in discussion with you.  

    Service should be automatic citizenship.  Unfortunately there are instances where it hasn't been.

    @tiamat63 said:

    You know my stance on that as I've spelled it out on this board numerous times.  Even in discussion with you.  

    Service should be automatic citizenship.  Unfortunately there are instances where it hasn't been.

    So you don’t think that people here illegally that work for automatically lower wages and live 20 to one house, without driver’s licenses or automotive insurance or health insurance or any benefits whatsoever are a lower class?

    the elite let them in and use them.