Dayton, Ohio, shooting that left 9 dead, 27 hurt halted 'in under a minute' by cops who shot suspect: mayor
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/cache-of-1000-guns-seized-from-los-angeles-mansion-in-raid
More than 1,000 guns seized from LA home near Playboy Mansion; suspect in custody, police say
The LAPD and ATF said they were tipped off that a person was manufacturing illegal firearms inside the home and selling them to gang members, Los Angeles' Fox 11 reported. Photos from the scene showed stacks of hundreds of rifles and handguns and thousands of rounds of ammunition.
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coming to a big city in your state (if the dems have continued "open borders")
Firearms, Ammunition, and Explosives Smuggling Investigations | ICE
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Furthermore, (aren't you guys happy with my fast typing? long windbagsies? LOL)
Back some 6 years ago, I had been threatened by a nutjob while out in our woods during deer gun season. He was on the edge of our woods, saw me, and went ballistic, screaming at me, threatening to "shoot a deer next to my head" and aiming his shotgun my direction. I got behind a big tree, he kept screaming, I called my Wife and had her call the Sheriff dept, they got there very, very fast.
I had run into the guy the year before, while he was poaching the neighbor's woods. He inferred he and his friend were bigger than me, and could kick my ass. I simply said a few nice things back to him......and his friend disavowed him right then and there.
That idiot never, ever bothered me again. The Sheriff told me he would do the same thing - be out there watching our beautiful woods, but he said, "Sir, I would ...never...come out here without being armed. You don't know anymore- with the drugs (he named them but I had no idea), we deal with it every single week - they aren't right - extremely violent and desperate. I tell all my friends and family and folks like you - get a concealed carry permit and carry it everywhere you can. Things are changing in our country, we're not safe like we used to be, for the most part, back in the day."
Hoorta - you think our sheriff is "paranoid" ? "
I already talked about our trip to Vegas, and nearly being mugged by a tall guy who may? have had a knife in his pocket. Can't count on detectives running out into the lit part of the tunnel of lights again. They had been in place all that time, and we never saw them. Thank God for those guys. I didn't have a CCW back then. Hope it NEVER happens again.
Furthermore, (aren't you guys happy with my fast typing? long windbagsies? LOL)
Back some 6 years ago, I had been threatened by a nutjob while out in our woods during deer gun season. He was on the edge of our woods, saw me, and went ballistic, screaming at me, threatening to "shoot a deer next to my head" and aiming his shotgun my direction. I got behind a big tree, he kept screaming, I called my Wife and had her call the Sheriff dept, they got there very, very fast.
I had run into the guy the year before, while he was poaching the neighbor's woods. He inferred he and his friend were bigger than me, and could kick my ass. I simply said a few nice things back to him......and his friend disavowed him right then and there.
That idiot never, ever bothered me again. The Sheriff told me he would do the same thing - be out there watching our beautiful woods, but he said, "Sir, I would ...never...come out here without being armed. You don't know anymore- with the drugs (he named them but I had no idea), we deal with it every single week - they aren't right - extremely violent and desperate. I tell all my friends and family and folks like you - get a concealed carry permit and carry it everywhere you can. Things are changing in our country, we're not safe like we used to be, for the most part, back in the day."
Hoorta - you think our sheriff is "paranoid" ? "
I already talked about our trip to Vegas, and nearly being mugged by a tall guy who may? have had a knife in his pocket. Can't count on detectives running out into the lit part of the tunnel of lights again. They had been in place all that time, and we never saw them. Thank God for those guys. I didn't have a CCW back then. Hope it NEVER happens again.
Sherriff? No. You? Hell yes. From multiple paranoid reactions you've posted previously. MHO? Anyone who feels the need to have a concealed carry permit (and I have a couple relatives who do have them) by definition IS paranoid. You obviously need a couple 100 round drum magazines like this guy had, the next time you want to take out a herd of buffalo, or pre process a deer into hamburgers.
Don't fn' obfuscate. No hunter is going after wild boar with a single shot.
You're trotting out the old arguement, slightly modified- " when guns are illegal, only criminals will own guns". You part of the 2nd amendment crowd over this latest mass killing - too bad, so sad but there's really nothing we can do about it. People are getting deprived of life because of our Wild West laws that let folks the ability to buy military style weapons.
I'll toss this one out as OBF initially brought it up. Let's turn back the clocks 50 years. High capacity weaponry wasn't available to the general public. Right? So who's responsible? Gun manufacturers you say? Are they getting sued big time for the carnage? I think so.
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Hoorta..I don't think 50 years ago anyone bent on killing people would have had too much trouble getting all the firepower they wanted except guns and ammo would be cheaper and easier to access than it is now...It is not the guns that are the problem as much as the breakdown of our society. When is enough gun control going to be enough because I am certain once military style rifles are banned we will continue to have mass shootings...then what? Then it will be banning ALL semi automatics. As you noted there is no real difference between a semi automatic hunting rifle and a military style semi automatic rifle except for the magazine.
Remember too we had a ban on some semi automatic rifles under Clinton that had a sunset clause after 10 years. If I remember right the banning of those rifles did not do much then (which is why they allowed the law to expire after 10 years) and it is not going to do that much now...except that law abiding citizens are certain to lose more gun rights going forward.
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Furthermore, (aren't you guys happy with my fast typing? long windbagsies? LOL)
Back some 6 years ago, I had been threatened by a nutjob while out in our woods during deer gun season. He was on the edge of our woods, saw me, and went ballistic, screaming at me, threatening to "shoot a deer next to my head" and aiming his shotgun my direction. I got behind a big tree, he kept screaming, I called my Wife and had her call the Sheriff dept, they got there very, very fast.
I had run into the guy the year before, while he was poaching the neighbor's woods. He inferred he and his friend were bigger than me, and could kick my ass. I simply said a few nice things back to him......and his friend disavowed him right then and there.
That idiot never, ever bothered me again. The Sheriff told me he would do the same thing - be out there watching our beautiful woods, but he said, "Sir, I would ...never...come out here without being armed. You don't know anymore- with the drugs (he named them but I had no idea), we deal with it every single week - they aren't right - extremely violent and desperate. I tell all my friends and family and folks like you - get a concealed carry permit and carry it everywhere you can. Things are changing in our country, we're not safe like we used to be, for the most part, back in the day."
Hoorta - you think our sheriff is "paranoid" ? "
I already talked about our trip to Vegas, and nearly being mugged by a tall guy who may? have had a knife in his pocket. Can't count on detectives running out into the lit part of the tunnel of lights again. They had been in place all that time, and we never saw them. Thank God for those guys. I didn't have a CCW back then. Hope it NEVER happens again.
Sherriff? No. You? Hell yes. From multiple paranoid reactions you've posted previously. MHO? Anyone who feels the need to have a concealed carry permit (and I have a couple relatives who do have them) by definition IS paranoid. You obviously need a couple 100 round drum magazines like this guy had, the next time you want to take out a herd of buffalo, or pre process a deer into hamburgers.
Don't fn' obfuscate. No hunter is going after wild boar with a single shot.
You're trotting out the old arguement, slightly modified- " when guns are illegal, only criminals will own guns". You part of the 2nd amendment crowd over this latest mass killing - too bad, so sad but there's really nothing we can do about it. People are getting deprived of life because of our Wild West laws that let folks the ability to buy military style weapons.
I'll toss this one out as OBF initially brought it up. Let's turn back the clocks 50 years. High capacity weaponry wasn't available to the general public. Right? So who's responsible? Gun manufacturers you say? Are they getting sued big time for the carnage? I think so.
I'll toss this one out as OBF initially brought it up. Let's turn back the clocks 50 years. High capacity weaponry wasn't available to the general public. Right? So who's responsible? Gun manufacturers you say? Are they getting sued big time for the carnage? I think so.
A better question, outside of U of Texas incident, we went many many decades without anything of this sort going on. During that time, there were minimal firearms regulations. Full auto Thompsons were able to be ordered out of farmer's almanacs . The same gear was able to be bought in the 80s as there is today. Why did all of a sudden in the late 90s kids start thinking it o.k. to lash out like this? We have some pretty deep societal and mental health issues in this country that are going unaddressed. HIPAA is structured in a way that it is exceedingly difficult to have better mental health screening during purchases. Something has to give but we shouldn't pretend that it is the firearms or availability that changed over time and not us as people.
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I'll toss this one out as OBF initially brought it up. Let's turn back the clocks 50 years. High capacity weaponry wasn't available to the general public. Right? So who's responsible? Gun manufacturers you say? Are they getting sued big time for the carnage? I think so.
A better question, outside of U of Texas incident, we went many many decades without anything of this sort going on. During that time, there were minimal firearms regulations. Full auto Thompsons were able to be ordered out of farmer's almanacs . The same gear was able to be bought in the 80s as there is today. Why did all of a sudden in the late 90s kids start thinking it o.k. to lash out like this? We have some pretty deep societal and mental health issues in this country that are going unaddressed. HIPAA is structured in a way that it is exceedingly difficult to have better mental health screening during purchases. Something has to give but we shouldn't pretend that it is the firearms or availability that changed over time and not us as people.
A better question, outside of U of Texas incident, we went many many decades without anything of this sort going on. During that time, there were minimal firearms regulations. Full auto Thompsons were able to be ordered out of farmer's almanacs . The same gear was able to be bought in the 80s as there is today. Why did all of a sudden in the late 90s kids start thinking it o.k. to lash out like this? We have some pretty deep societal and mental health issues in this country that are going unaddressed. HIPAA is structured in a way that it is exceedingly difficult to have better mental health screening during purchases. Something has to give but we shouldn't pretend that it is the firearms or availability that changed over time and not us as people.
It starts with parenting or lack there of. IMO
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Furthermore, (aren't you guys happy with my fast typing? long windbagsies? LOL)
Back some 6 years ago, I had been threatened by a nutjob while out in our woods during deer gun season. He was on the edge of our woods, saw me, and went ballistic, screaming at me, threatening to "shoot a deer next to my head" and aiming his shotgun my direction. I got behind a big tree, he kept screaming, I called my Wife and had her call the Sheriff dept, they got there very, very fast.
I had run into the guy the year before, while he was poaching the neighbor's woods. He inferred he and his friend were bigger than me, and could kick my ass. I simply said a few nice things back to him......and his friend disavowed him right then and there.
That idiot never, ever bothered me again. The Sheriff told me he would do the same thing - be out there watching our beautiful woods, but he said, "Sir, I would ...never...come out here without being armed. You don't know anymore- with the drugs (he named them but I had no idea), we deal with it every single week - they aren't right - extremely violent and desperate. I tell all my friends and family and folks like you - get a concealed carry permit and carry it everywhere you can. Things are changing in our country, we're not safe like we used to be, for the most part, back in the day."
Hoorta - you think our sheriff is "paranoid" ? "
I already talked about our trip to Vegas, and nearly being mugged by a tall guy who may? have had a knife in his pocket. Can't count on detectives running out into the lit part of the tunnel of lights again. They had been in place all that time, and we never saw them. Thank God for those guys. I didn't have a CCW back then. Hope it NEVER happens again.
Sherriff? No. You? Hell yes. From multiple paranoid reactions you've posted previously. MHO? Anyone who feels the need to have a concealed carry permit (and I have a couple relatives who do have them) by definition IS paranoid. You obviously need a couple 100 round drum magazines like this guy had, the next time you want to take out a herd of buffalo, or pre process a deer into hamburgers.
Don't fn' obfuscate. No hunter is going after wild boar with a single shot.
You're trotting out the old arguement, slightly modified- " when guns are illegal, only criminals will own guns". You part of the 2nd amendment crowd over this latest mass killing - too bad, so sad but there's really nothing we can do about it. People are getting deprived of life because of our Wild West laws that let folks the ability to buy military style weapons.
I'll toss this one out as OBF initially brought it up. Let's turn back the clocks 50 years. High capacity weaponry wasn't available to the general public. Right? So who's responsible? Gun manufacturers you say? Are they getting sued big time for the carnage? I think so.
People are getting deprived of life because of our Wild West laws that let folks the ability to buy military style weapons.
I'll toss this one out as OBF initially brought it up. Let's turn back the clocks 50 years. High capacity weaponry wasn't available to the general public. Right? So who's responsible? Gun manufacturers you say? Are they getting sued big time for the carnage? I think so.
bull. I just posted about how gangs and drug cartels even have anti-aircraft guns and hand grenades, you knucklehead.
those are illegal.
how do you figure these bombers got bombs when bombs are ILLEGAL ?
and "paranoid" ? no more than the sheriff who advised me, when I was threatened in our woods.
but since you mocked CCW, have a nice day:
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Hey, Hoorta, would you like me to post another...thousand of incidents ?
"Earth to Hoorta" LOL
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Hoorta..I don't think 50 years ago anyone bent on killing people would have had too much trouble getting all the firepower they wanted except guns and ammo would be cheaper and easier to access than it is now...It is not the guns that are the problem as much as the breakdown of our society. When is enough gun control going to be enough because I am certain once military style rifles are banned we will continue to have mass shootings...then what? Then it will be banning ALL semi automatics. As you noted there is no real difference between a semi automatic hunting rifle and a military style semi automatic rifle except for the magazine.
Remember too we had a ban on some semi automatic rifles under Clinton that had a sunset clause after 10 years. If I remember right the banning of those rifles did not do much then (which is why they allowed the law to expire after 10 years) and it is not going to do that much now...except that law abiding citizens are certain to lose more gun rights going forward.
Hoorta..I don't think 50 years ago anyone bent on killing people would have had too much trouble getting all the firepower they wanted except guns and ammo would be cheaper and easier to access than it is now...It is not the guns that are the problem as much as the breakdown of our society. When is enough gun control going to be enough because I am certain once military style rifles are banned we will continue to have mass shootings...then what? Then it will be banning ALL semi automatics. As you noted there is no real difference between a semi automatic hunting rifle and a military style semi automatic rifle except for the magazine.
Remember too we had a ban on some semi automatic rifles under Clinton that had a sunset clause after 10 years. If I remember right the banning of those rifles did not do much then (which is why they allowed the law to expire after 10 years) and it is not going to do that much now...except that law abiding citizens are certain to lose more gun rights going forward.
You know, thinking about it just banning long guns won't do much. Having a backpack full of high capacity clips for a Glock in the wrong hands nets the same result.
Whether you believe in the devil or not looks like he's hard at work.
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Hoorta..I don't think 50 years ago anyone bent on killing people would have had too much trouble getting all the firepower they wanted except guns and ammo would be cheaper and easier to access than it is now...It is not the guns that are the problem as much as the breakdown of our society. When is enough gun control going to be enough because I am certain once military style rifles are banned we will continue to have mass shootings...then what? Then it will be banning ALL semi automatics. As you noted there is no real difference between a semi automatic hunting rifle and a military style semi automatic rifle except for the magazine.
Remember too we had a ban on some semi automatic rifles under Clinton that had a sunset clause after 10 years. If I remember right the banning of those rifles did not do much then (which is why they allowed the law to expire after 10 years) and it is not going to do that much now...except that law abiding citizens are certain to lose more gun rights going forward.
You know, thinking about it just banning long guns won't do much. Having a backpack full of high capacity clips for a Glock in the wrong hands nets the same result.
Whether you believe in the devil or not looks like he's hard at work.
You know, thinking about it just banning long guns won't do much. Having a backpack full of high capacity clips for a Glock in the wrong hands nets the same result.
Whether you believe in the devil or not looks like he's hard at work.
I think where all of this is heading is an eventual ban on all semi automatics and I would hate to see us lose this right to own semi automatics we have had for so long and then have it taken away...because we have too many soft targets and the feel good gun control laws will not stop mass shootings we will have a continual cycle of mass shootings and then more calls for more and more gun control. There has to be a better answer.
The simple answer is it is demonic but a huge problem are broken homes and families and children not raised right but I would argue that the breakdown of families is demonic in itself. Anything to make families stronger vs weaker is a good place to start. Much of the democrats welfare programs have been devastating to families by rewarding single mothers and punishing single mothers getting assistance with removing the assistance if they get married.
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Hey, Hoorta, would you like me to post another...thousand of incidents ?
"Earth to Hoorta" LOL
Hey, Hoorta, would you like me to post another...thousand of incidents ?
"Earth to Hoorta" LOL
If it makes you feel safer, God Bless ya Cal. Had you been in that line at Ned Peppers, and taken a few pot shots at the guy wearing body armor, you'd have been the first person he targeted. RIP
A gun isn't going to protect you 100% of the time if Jesse James shoots first. I'll leave it at that.
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Hoorta..I don't think 50 years ago anyone bent on killing people would have had too much trouble getting all the firepower they wanted except guns and ammo would be cheaper and easier to access than it is now...It is not the guns that are the problem as much as the breakdown of our society. When is enough gun control going to be enough because I am certain once military style rifles are banned we will continue to have mass shootings...then what? Then it will be banning ALL semi automatics. As you noted there is no real difference between a semi automatic hunting rifle and a military style semi automatic rifle except for the magazine.
Remember too we had a ban on some semi automatic rifles under Clinton that had a sunset clause after 10 years. If I remember right the banning of those rifles did not do much then (which is why they allowed the law to expire after 10 years) and it is not going to do that much now...except that law abiding citizens are certain to lose more gun rights going forward.
You know, thinking about it just banning long guns won't do much. Having a backpack full of high capacity clips for a Glock in the wrong hands nets the same result.
Whether you believe in the devil or not looks like he's hard at work.
You know, thinking about it just banning long guns won't do much. Having a backpack full of high capacity clips for a Glock in the wrong hands nets the same result.
Whether you believe in the devil or not looks like he's hard at work.
One of the worst mass shootings was exactly that. The Virginia Tech mass murderer killed 32 with two semi auto handguns a Glock and Walther 22:
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Hey, Hoorta, would you like me to post another...thousand of incidents ?
"Earth to Hoorta" LOL
If it makes you feel safer, God Bless ya Cal. Had you been in that line at Ned Peppers, and taken a few pot shots at the guy wearing body armor, you'd have been the first person he targeted. RIP
A gun isn't going to protect you 100% of the time if Jesse James shoots first. I'll leave it at that.
If it makes you feel safer, God Bless ya Cal. Had you been in that line at Ned Peppers, and taken a few pot shots at the guy wearing body armor, you'd have been the first person he targeted. RIP
A gun isn't going to protect you 100% of the time if Jesse James shoots first. I'll leave it at that.
Hence the training. It's a matter of training - I know the armor helps...but it also has weaknesses.
My CCW instructor would disagree with you. over 4 years special forces.
Advanced training is good. There would be alternatives to simply firing in self defense at body armor.
http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2012/01/american-mercenary-defeating-body-armor.html
https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/seven-things-you-dont-know-about-body-armor
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No offense, but having a CCW hardly makes you a special forces operator. A one day firearms safety course will not prepare you for this type situation.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
No offense, but having a CCW hardly makes you a special forces operator. A one day firearms safety course will not prepare you for this type situation.
No offense, but having a CCW hardly makes you a special forces operator. A one day firearms safety course will not prepare you for this type situation.
somebody must have an AA meeting today . +1 in anycase.
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No offense, but having a CCW hardly makes you a special forces operator. A one day firearms safety course will not prepare you for this type situation.
No offense, but having a CCW hardly makes you a special forces operator. A one day firearms safety course will not prepare you for this type situation.
Never implied anything of the sort. But I appreciate learning from an expert. Never going to be an expert, obviously.
Just want to know more than the CCW class. My hay bales smooshed, but I can get a few of the round large bales to set up at my
practice range. Need to practice more. I don't intend on ever having to be in a situation where I have to defend myself and others. But haven't forgotten the attempted mugging in Vegas that night. And there were a few home invasions in our area last year.
It's a good thing the murders in Texas and Ohio weren't committed by an illegal, or the left would ignore them and not pretend to want to solve the problem.
About training - sure, you can't account for whatever dangerous situation you might ever face. But learning the fundamentals is key...and practice.
Situational avoidance is paramount....
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I envy you being able to shoot on your property. It's illegal in Cuyahoga county.
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I envy you being able to shoot on your property. It's illegal in Cuyahoga county.
I envy you being able to shoot on your property. It's illegal in Cuyahoga county.
so is that gloryhole u got downstairs, but when has that ever stopped you?
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@calfoxwc said:
er? I know you can't shoot your firearm in the city usually, but in your home should be fine and...
if you have a farm you can't shoot your guns??? That is bogus. I set up my training backdrop out back, along the edge of the woods.
We just went shooting the other day - best friends' daughter came out with her friend from NC - I taught her to shoot a few years ago, and her friend never shot a pistol. So, I gave her my infamous safety speech, responsibility etc, and had her shooting fairly well. My Walther doesn't kick hardly much at all - I can rapid fire two shots and stay on target pretty much. She was anticipating recoil that she expected from having shot her fiance's 12 gauge shotgun. LOL She handled it well, had to straighten her arm, change stance, etc...and she really got it.
No shooting, period outdoors in Cuyahoga county. I think the only 'farm' might be in North Royalton. They do allow bow hunting deer in some cities with a special permit from the Police in certain areas.
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