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***Browns @ Colts Preseason Game Night Thread***

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  • A few min ago ESPN had us at 88% win and now it is under 55% We are not playing good D at all 

  • @the-gipper said:

    It was a complete flop by there in the QB he was just tapped it was nothing forcible about it. And then why didn’t they call it when our quarterback got the same thing done to him 

    You missed the point. Why would you even risk it being seen differently. Don't touch the head. End of story. Freddie will insure they all hear it too.

    @texasag1969 said:

    You missed the point. Why would you even risk it being seen differently. Don't touch the head. End of story. Freddie will insure they all hear it too.

    Again I ask why and when our quarterback was slapped him in the head did they not call it then. Should not rule apply in all situations?

  • I guess all we can say is that it is preseason for the referees as well

  • And now they have colts at 60% win 

  • We had to keep it close I guess 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You missed the point. Why would you even risk it being seen differently. Don't touch the head. End of story. Freddie will insure they all hear it too.

    Again I ask why and when our quarterback was slapped him in the head did they not call it then. Should not rule apply in all situations?

    @the-gipper said:

    Again I ask why and when our quarterback was slapped him in the head did they not call it then. Should not rule apply in all situations?

    Doesn't matter what wasn't called on them. What matters is what we did. He had all 5+ feet of body to work with from feet to shoulders for only a touch. Just plain stupid.

  • We had to keep it close I guess 

    @medicineman said:

    We had to keep it close I guess 

    were the only football game on..why lose tv rating not keeping it close? Winning is nice, but not what coaching staffs really care about..it's about seeing the last 10 guys they decide to keep..  

  • Too many penalties but some of that goes to the refs with questionble calls.

  • We have so fucking many willies and Willie on this team.

  • Im at a concert and couldnt see the game so I looked on line for a recap...described the 3 browns scores and ended with

    The rest of the game was pretty devoid of anything other than penalties

    Hahaha

  • @the-gipper said:

    Again I ask why and when our quarterback was slapped him in the head did they not call it then. Should not rule apply in all situations?

    Doesn't matter what wasn't called on them. What matters is what we did. He had all 5+ feet of body to work with from feet to shoulders for only a touch. Just plain stupid.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Doesn't matter what wasn't called on them. What matters is what we did. He had all 5+ feet of body to work with from feet to shoulders for only a touch. Just plain stupid.

    Bottom line I agree with Bernie Kosar that was a call that never should’ve been made

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Doesn't matter what wasn't called on them. What matters is what we did. He had all 5+ feet of body to work with from feet to shoulders for only a touch. Just plain stupid.

    Bottom line I agree with Bernie Kosar that was a call that never should’ve been made

    @the-gipper said:

    Bottom line I agree with Bernie Kosar that was a call that never should’ve been made

    what was Bernie's reasoning?   

  • @the-gipper said:

    Bottom line I agree with Bernie Kosar that was a call that never should’ve been made

    what was Bernie's reasoning?   

    @gumby73 said:

    what was Bernie's reasoning?   

    He noted that several calls including this one were better off not call because they were so minuscule and because the penalty had absolutely no effect on the play whatsoever   

  • The Good:

    D'Ernest Johnson can play RB in the NFL, and he's going to be on a roster. Probably not ours, but who knows? He can run, he can catch, and he's tough. If he doesn't make our 53, somebody will pick him up. 

    And hello Mr. Montgomery! That guy just keeps making plays at WR and our WR room is going to be cramped as hell. 

    Gilbert throwing for around 150 yards and two TDs. This guy can really play, and I think he's making a serious case for staying on the roster as our 3rd qb. Nice arm strength, above average accuracy, and he definitely knows where to go with the pill. Yes, I know it's preseason, but still. Gilbert really made the game watchable and fun. 

    The Bad:

    Our defense's inability to finish plays and tackle, especially in the back field. I saw 3 or 4 plays where we couldn't finish off the tackle, including a 4th down play where Mack Wilson ran right BY Brissett which allowed him to complete a long pass. I will never understand why defensive players don't try and slow down a little bit and grab the qb around waist or something. I didn't like seeing Jacobi Brissett look like Joe Montana against our 1st team defense. 

    Penalties. Good lord the penalties. To be fair, some of the calls were total bull crap, but geez. I guess this is why you play preseason games, but I could tell Freddie was PISSED. 

    The Ugly:

    The kicking game. This is the second week in a row where we tried to get a FG at the end of a half and screwed it up. 

    It might be preseason, but it's getting about time to be somewhat worried our kickers. Many games in the NFL come down to the last couple minutes. I'd hate to be on the fringe of the playoffs and need a kick to finish off a contest. Our guys couldn't connect in a dome, and I was really hoping one of them would pull away from the other. 

  • Since hardly any first stingers even played who cares.  Basically a scrimage.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Again I ask why and when our quarterback was slapped him in the head did they not call it then. Should not rule apply in all situations?

    Doesn't matter what wasn't called on them. What matters is what we did. He had all 5+ feet of body to work with from feet to shoulders for only a touch. Just plain stupid.

    @texasag1969 said:

    What matters is what we did. He had all 5+ feet of body to work with from feet to shoulders for only a touch. Just plain stupid.

    am guilty of being wrong again..the Colts fumbled shot gun snap that Kelly falls on like a bomb, is with 14 mins. still left in 4th..not only was there 1 whistle blown. but there was 2 whistles blowing play dead.. we never had to touch Kelly, the play was dead on 2 whistles..my bad

  • Too many penalties but some of that goes to the refs with questionble calls.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Too many penalties but some of that goes to the refs with questionble calls.

    Did you watch the  Cowpokes game? were over 25 penalties and then 1 came on a challenge PI call that was not called til they threw the red flag then blah blah blah, I hate how flags can decide the outcome of a game. That's what make people believe Vegas is involved, 

  • Cut Gilbert already! No place in the NFL for him. 

    @medicineman said:

    Cut Gilbert already! No place in the NFL for him. 

    Gilbert isn't Baker, but he's  plenty adequate  as a backup.  

    @the-gipper said:

    Looking more like the one and 15 team they were a couple years ago

    Sloppy  game Gip. Kicking sucked. Reffing  sucked. I'll post more later. 

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Too many penalties but some of that goes to the refs with questionble calls.

    Did you watch the  Cowpokes game? were over 25 penalties and then 1 came on a challenge PI call that was not called til they threw the red flag then blah blah blah, I hate how flags can decide the outcome of a game. That's what make people believe Vegas is involved, 

    @medicineman said:

    Did you watch the  Cowpokes game? were over 25 penalties and then 1 came on a challenge PI call that was not called til they threw the red flag then blah blah blah, I hate how flags can decide the outcome of a game. That's what make people believe Vegas is involved, 

    I understand why many of the newer penalty rules are in place for players safety but now there are so many penalties it takes away from the game. This game was a good example. After every play you waited to see if there was a flag thrown. A big problem I see is that so many of the newer penalty rules are subjective. Holding has always been that type of penalty as being subjective many times. Now we have added a number of newer penalty rules that also are subjective. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Doesn't matter what wasn't called on them. What matters is what we did. He had all 5+ feet of body to work with from feet to shoulders for only a touch. Just plain stupid.

    Bottom line I agree with Bernie Kosar that was a call that never should’ve been made

    @the-gipper said:

    Bottom line I agree with Bernie Kosar that was a call that never should’ve been made

    That's because you both see it through homer eyes and are not objectively viewing what is going on. The other thing is that you can't hear what the ref of the field can hear, the sound of the "touch" to the helmet. If he'd made the same slap on the butt it would not make all that much noise that the same exact slap on a plastic helmet makes. If you are the ref right there with the two of them, you can hear it when it's enough force to knock a head forward and down. You and Bernie are wrong. Homers.??

    Go back and review the touch and keep in mind what gumby said, more than one whistle had already been blown and no touch whatsoever was required. The reason I know Freddie will use this with the whole team present is that he keeps stressing playing smart. You could already see his disgust with the running into the kicker mistake that we were lucky was not a drive extending 15 yarder. He'll use that one too as another example of not playing smart.