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  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-players-who-impressed-in-the-browns-win-over-the-colts

    4. Genard Avery

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    I don't think Garrett even saw the field did he? That makes a big difference to the other players along the DL when protections are not sliding his way.

  • Folks, it's exhibition season, which means nothing other than finalizing decisions & seeing what player combos work best.

    Case in point:  2017 Browns were 4-0 preseason. Remember what our regular season record was? Yep, that would be 0-16.

    Mike

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-players-who-impressed-in-the-browns-win-over-the-colts

    4. Genard Avery

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    He can only tackle whoever the Colts put on the field. 

  • I only saw part of the second half but thought Wyatt Ray showed some moves coming off the edge. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-players-who-impressed-in-the-browns-win-over-the-colts

    4. Genard Avery

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    Uh, yes you are.

  • I think you're making a bit much of it far too soon.

  • I'm hardly a football expert...but this reads like a casual fan that just watched his first game. 

  • I'm hardly a football expert...but this reads like a casual fan that just watched his first game. 

    @choco said:

    I'm hardly a football expert...but this reads like a casual fan that just watched his first game. 

    no i explained i wasnt expecting full fire out on every play. But look myles and chris smith against the skins looked pretty fluid especially for preseason game 1. They werent playing 100% but u could still see them working their craft. On saturday cernon looked like he justcwanted to lock up with the tackle a bit then go have a beer. And Avery. who got quite a few reps....nrver flashed in pass rush against 2nd and 3rd team OL.

    none of u would have been happy with baker coming out and doing nothing but hsndoffs and rb screens for 2 possessions. I just wsnted to see where our d lines pass rush was at when they put it in launch control.

  • Now is not the time to show much of anything, anyhow..If your after a 2 preseason game worry? #1..this OL can't run block. It's all been on running backs individual vision talent & effort.. #2..We just let 3 QB's at Colts go 30 of 44 with all 3 Qb's combined with a 104.7 QB rating. I was hoping our coverage depth was far better than Saturdays game..#3.Placekicker   

  • It's preseason.. What were you expecting?

  • Now is not the time to show much of anything, anyhow..If your after a 2 preseason game worry? #1..this OL can't run block. It's all been on running backs individual vision talent & effort.. #2..We just let 3 QB's at Colts go 30 of 44 with all 3 Qb's combined with a 104.7 QB rating. I was hoping our coverage depth was far better than Saturdays game..#3.Placekicker   

    @gumby73 said:

    Now is not the time to show much of anything, anyhow..If your after a 2 preseason game worry? #1..this OL can't run block. It's all been on running backs individual vision talent & effort.. #2..We just let 3 QB's at Colts go 30 of 44 with all 3 Qb's combined with a 104.7 QB rating. I was hoping our coverage depth was far better than Saturdays game..#3.Placekicker   

    I won't worry about #2 yet unless they play that way with Garrett in the game (and he was not in game 2).

  • Yeah, I wasn't overly blown away, mostly because Brissett looked like the second coming of Brett Favre, but our podcast analysts actually said our starting DL was dominant, and that's without Myles. I'm definitely not worried, but I am getting impatient. It just feels like more and more that the preseason is an excuse for players to get injured. We literally aren't playing our starters, and when we do, I'm holding my breath. 

    Nothing matters more than game 1. Everyone here knows our record of season openers, and we MUST have a victory week 1.

  • I’m of the opinion the Colts OL was a notch above what we saw in Washington. Even their back ups were decent.

  • Avery looks much quicker. Shows on the tackle on the screen pass right before half. 

    He was pass rushing, diagnosed the screen, and made it outside in time to trip up the receiver. 

  • i understand vernon prob had standing orders not to fire out too hard...but jobi launched through a couple times. And that rookie lb'er again how the fuck did he fall that far? man thst kid is lightin it. I was just expecting certain players like avery, who very well may be fighting for a job...to.show something yesrerday. 

    Avery has zero to do with the lb'ers in wilks scheme...so he has to make the team as a DE. Theres alot of traffic at DE guys. Zettel, who i dont really care for but is gettin lots of reps, love me some big bear he's in, Chad Thomas.....i mean, avery needs to flash next game or ge might be playing alot in game 4 and we know what thst means.

    Acery was highly thought of by GW but who knows with wilks. Wilks may not see much need for Avery as he doesnt use as many 3 DL sets as GW did. 

  • Avery looks much quicker. Shows on the tackle on the screen pass right before half. 

    He was pass rushing, diagnosed the screen, and made it outside in time to trip up the receiver. 

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Avery looks much quicker. Shows on the tackle on the screen pass right before half. 

    He was pass rushing, diagnosed the screen, and made it outside in time to trip up the receiver. 

    he's a ridiculous athlete no question. He just may not work so well in our scheme. 

  • In my old age i have come to the conclusion that exhibition football doesn't mean shit.

  • it's preseason. teams don't show the really cool stuff they can do. It is all basic stuff that doesn't tip off any

    regular season opposition. In fact, this is the first exhibition season that I can watch the entire games with a lot of interest, with the depth the Browns now have.

    Regular season will get here soon enough.

  • scheme wise teams arent showing shit, that goes without saying. Ofc wolks isnt showing complex rush and blitz schemes. Im just talking about a clean rip around the edge ffs. Avery was just getting pushed way wide, wasnt leaning into his edge rush. 

  • scheme wise teams arent showing shit, that goes without saying. Ofc wolks isnt showing complex rush and blitz schemes. Im just talking about a clean rip around the edge ffs. Avery was just getting pushed way wide, wasnt leaning into his edge rush. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    scheme wise teams arent showing shit, that goes without saying. Ofc wolks isnt showing complex rush and blitz schemes. Im just talking about a clean rip around the edge ffs. Avery was just getting pushed way wide, wasnt leaning into his edge rush. 

    Maybe the pass rushers are being vanilla too and not trying to show off their flashy/new moves