Andrew Luck
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I don't think that the Colts will be tanking. I think they will turn to Brissette and see if he can be the QB of the future.
I don't think that the Colts will be tanking. I think they will turn to Brissette and see if he can be the QB of the future.
I wouldn't bet either way. Irsay is a snake in the grass & who knows what may happen there.
Mike
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I don't think that the Colts will be tanking. I think they will turn to Brissette and see if he can be the QB of the future.
I don't think that the Colts will be tanking. I think they will turn to Brissette and see if he can be the QB of the future.
He has played pretty well. I don't think that he will be in like the Top 20 QBs in this league, but he can be a starter and play decently. How far they go depends a lot of the quality of the rest of the team.
The Colts HAVE done a lot to put quality players around Luck...now they are going to have to rely on the supporting cast to pull the show together and not the star.
All that being said...Fuck them. Let them lose. Their tank job to get Luck was a despicable display of poor sportsmanship and in a sense was the best example of what can be wrong with the NFL these days.....letting teams tank. Fuck them. Lose. I remember when they had their division sown up, and they were playing someone who the Browns were fighting with for a playoff spot. This was 2007. They tanked that game, denying the Browns a chance to make the playoffs. Refused to play Peyton...instead played like Curtis Painter at QB. It was the worst example of a lack of integrity in the game that I have seen. So, nothing that team suffers breaks my heart....albeit that I did like Luck and thought he could be special. It wasn't against him, but that organization.
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I just found this whole thing shocking, when I first saw this last night I thought it was a joke or a mistake. Luck was a good dude, it will be interesting to see if his body gets healed up if the football itch returns and decides to unretire.
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I don't think that the Colts will be tanking. I think they will turn to Brissette and see if he can be the QB of the future.
He has played pretty well. I don't think that he will be in like the Top 20 QBs in this league, but he can be a starter and play decently. How far they go depends a lot of the quality of the rest of the team.
The Colts HAVE done a lot to put quality players around Luck...now they are going to have to rely on the supporting cast to pull the show together and not the star.
All that being said...Fuck them. Let them lose. Their tank job to get Luck was a despicable display of poor sportsmanship and in a sense was the best example of what can be wrong with the NFL these days.....letting teams tank. Fuck them. Lose. I remember when they had their division sown up, and they were playing someone who the Browns were fighting with for a playoff spot. This was 2007. They tanked that game, denying the Browns a chance to make the playoffs. Refused to play Peyton...instead played like Curtis Painter at QB. It was the worst example of a lack of integrity in the game that I have seen. So, nothing that team suffers breaks my heart....albeit that I did like Luck and thought he could be special. It wasn't against him, but that organization.
He has played pretty well. I don't think that he will be in like the Top 20 QBs in this league, but he can be a starter and play decently. How far they go depends a lot of the quality of the rest of the team.
The Colts HAVE done a lot to put quality players around Luck...now they are going to have to rely on the supporting cast to pull the show together and not the star.
All that being said...Fuck them. Let them lose. Their tank job to get Luck was a despicable display of poor sportsmanship and in a sense was the best example of what can be wrong with the NFL these days.....letting teams tank. Fuck them. Lose. I remember when they had their division sown up, and they were playing someone who the Browns were fighting with for a playoff spot. This was 2007. They tanked that game, denying the Browns a chance to make the playoffs. Refused to play Peyton...instead played like Curtis Painter at QB. It was the worst example of a lack of integrity in the game that I have seen. So, nothing that team suffers breaks my heart....albeit that I did like Luck and thought he could be special. It wasn't against him, but that organization.
Yes Gip those of us old enough remember the moving vans pulling out of Baltimore in the middle of the night. Not like Indy didn't deserve a team, not just that team.
Couldn't happen to the Browns? well it did. Why I hope nothing but continual losing to Carpetbaggers Kroenke (Rams), Chargers (Spanos) and the Rovin' Raiders with Davis.
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Which QB injury was it that "Browns fans" cheered?
Anywho... my two initial reactions to this news:
- Is it April 1st?
- Eli Manning has a new home.
Best wishes to Luck on the rest of his life. Tough decision... just because it may be the right one does not make his decision any easier.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Understand why he retired and am ambivalent.
Understand why he retired and am ambivalent.
Maybe you need to undergo 4 years of constant pain. Then you might not be so ambivalent.
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Understand why he retired and am ambivalent.
Maybe you need to undergo 4 years of constant pain. Then you might not be so ambivalent.
Maybe you need to undergo 4 years of constant pain. Then you might not be so ambivalent.
That is very true someone told me once years back. "pain can make anyone a coward". I totally believe that now.
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Maybe you need to undergo 4 years of constant pain. Then you might not be so ambivalent.
That is very true someone told me once years back. "pain can make anyone a coward". I totally believe that now.
That is very true someone told me once years back. "pain can make anyone a coward". I totally believe that now.
Well, you should know, based on what I understand what you have endured with all of your hospital time. Was the problem you were in their for very painful?
As I hope that Unsympathetic would not be that so much toward your circumstance.
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That is very true someone told me once years back. "pain can make anyone a coward". I totally believe that now.
Well, you should know, based on what I understand what you have endured with all of your hospital time. Was the problem you were in their for very painful?
As I hope that Unsympathetic would not be that so much toward your circumstance.
Well, you should know, based on what I understand what you have endured with all of your hospital time. Was the problem you were in their for very painful?
As I hope that Unsympathetic would not be that so much toward your circumstance.
Yes very plus in the 10 hospital trips I had from 2015-2019 some were lengthy stays 7 requiring rehab.
In 2015 I got very sick and lost 63 pounds down below my high school weight 50 years earlier. I almost didn't make it back......you learn a lot from those experiences.
There are 40 year old former football players who have to walk with two canes or some who can't remember how to get home.
Easy to judge sometimes.
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I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
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I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
With those kind of fans, I’d quit too. Cleveland fans have booed our losing QBs. But never booed a winning QB. Slighting a winner is pretty shaky. You guys deserve Irsay.
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You're wrong.
There was no excuse to boo
Luck apparently told the owner weeks ago
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I'm think, that Luck would have decided before the draft, to help his team, but didn't really know til later.
The more he found out about what other players have been saying about injuries... and dealt with his own...
he just didn't want to go on with any more injuries - . Good luck to him.
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I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
I can tell you that after knee surgery for a torn medial meniscus I desperately wanted to come back to racquetball again and rode a bicycle 15 miles a day up and down hills to rehab. But it took me about two months of trying to come back (4 months first on the bike) before I had to admit I was hurting the other knee in trying to protect the one that had healed. I was very lucky that after a year from then on I was asked to play again by my son in law after having spent that year on that 15 mi. a day ride. So now I play again but with the knowledge I am one injury away from bicycles permanently.
It's very hard to give up something you have done and love most of your life and you first have to conclude you just can't do it on the level required. And for pro QB's it's just not the same as an amateur RB player. Tough decision for Luck to make with $$$$$$s to have to leave on the table tempting a comeback. I won't fault him for hanging on to hope as long as he could. Real self-competitors are just made that way.
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According to the NFLPA, the average career is 3.3 years.
Looks like he’ll be a full time caveman for geico now... lol
BINGO, we have a winner!
The NFL is truly a brutal business that's why they are going overboard to try to protect the quarterbacks and wide receivers. For every player who makes 10, 15 or even 20 years there are many who get hurt in training camp or year 1 or 2 in the game.
Good luck Luck in your new career behind a microphone or maybe just fishing.
BINGO, we have a winner!
The NFL is truly a brutal business that's why they are going overboard to try to protect the quarterbacks and wide receivers. For every player who makes 10, 15 or even 20 years there are many who get hurt in training camp or year 1 or 2 in the game.
Good luck Luck in your new career behind a microphone or maybe just fishing.
For sure, I just wonder if this sort of thing will cascade more in the coming years. The first people that came into my head were the Bosa brothers. Came from a good (wealthy) family, have the tools to earn big deals in their mid 20's. Why not walk away from the game after 8-ish seasons? $100 something million bucks and already having a base makes it, in some ways, almost an easy decision. Gronk just did the same thing really.
There some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
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I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
I'm sorry....dude just did a very selfish move. I understand wanting to retire and retiring because of all those injuries................but don't tell me he had 0 idea pre-draft. Dude is very smart and educated...He knows what a QB means to a team and Jacoby is a back up....Dude could've rehabbed half the season and be welcomed back with open arms and let everyone know this is his last year. Colts fan had every reason to boo.....
Of course it was selfish. I expect the retirement of somebody to be a selfish move. It's football, not the war.
I can see him not knowing till a few weeks ago. Pre draft he still had plenty of months to recover and get into perfect football shape. Time has gone by, and he has kept feeling pain, with another season of fighting through pain getting closer and closer.
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BINGO, we have a winner!
The NFL is truly a brutal business that's why they are going overboard to try to protect the quarterbacks and wide receivers. For every player who makes 10, 15 or even 20 years there are many who get hurt in training camp or year 1 or 2 in the game.
Good luck Luck in your new career behind a microphone or maybe just fishing.
For sure, I just wonder if this sort of thing will cascade more in the coming years. The first people that came into my head were the Bosa brothers. Came from a good (wealthy) family, have the tools to earn big deals in their mid 20's. Why not walk away from the game after 8-ish seasons? $100 something million bucks and already having a base makes it, in some ways, almost an easy decision. Gronk just did the same thing really.
There some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
The're some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
Dorsey seems to be loading up on "football guys", not just players. The kind that are there for the game itself and money comes second to what they love. When I hear players like Baker and Garrett wanting to be the best that's ever been, I know who we have on this team.
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The're some dudes who will want to die on the field, but I'm just not nearly as sure this generation feels that way.
Dorsey seems to be loading up on "football guys", not just players. The kind that are there for the game itself and money comes second to what they love. When I hear players like Baker and Garrett wanting to be the best that's ever been, I know who we have on this team.
Dorsey seems to be loading up on "football guys", not just players. The kind that are there for the game itself and money comes second to what they love. When I hear players like Baker and Garrett wanting to be the best that's ever been, I know who we have on this team.
So.... if one is damaged to the point where "best ever" is not possible and they retire early, then you'll understand?
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