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WEEK 3 - BROWNS 2.5 point early underdogs vs the LA Rams on SNF O/U 51 in CLEVELAND, OH!  

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    B brownie4412 wrote on last edited by
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    I’m honestly surprised it’s that close. They (the browns) haven’t looked good at all. If I was a betting man I’d lay the points in a heartbeat. I hope I’m wrong.

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      Classic trap game.  Once the line bounces to -3.5 jump on it.  Good Home dog against a team traveling across three time zones for a prime time game.  

      Over looks good too although I thought it wouldn’t be up to 51.  I see a lot of defensive penalties and showcase of offense on prime time.  I think both offenses  match up favorably against the respective Defenses. 

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        They're going to be a bigger dog than that by game time. 

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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        @the-cysko-kid said:

        They're going to be a bigger dog than that by game time. 

        Yup...

        Picking them in Pick'em is one thing... and I might not even do that... but when the wallet is involved, then it's a whole 'nother thang.

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          @the-cysko-kid said:

          They're going to be a bigger dog than that by game time. 

          Yup...

          Picking them in Pick'em is one thing... and I might not even do that... but when the wallet is involved, then it's a whole 'nother thang.

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          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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          @tour2ma said:

          Yup...

          Picking them in Pick'em is one thing... and I might not even do that... but when the wallet is involved, then it's a whole 'nother thang.

          Yep, I was yellin' at the TV last night, "Somebody tackle OBJ around the 20 dammit." I needed one last FG to win the damn FFL this week. The guy who played OBJ pulled ahead of me and the guy barely ahead of me on that one damn play. We didn't need to win by 20. 16 was just fine by me!.?

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            @tour2ma said:

            Yup...

            Picking them in Pick'em is one thing... and I might not even do that... but when the wallet is involved, then it's a whole 'nother thang.

            Yep, I was yellin' at the TV last night, "Somebody tackle OBJ around the 20 dammit." I needed one last FG to win the damn FFL this week. The guy who played OBJ pulled ahead of me and the guy barely ahead of me on that one damn play. We didn't need to win by 20. 16 was just fine by me!.?

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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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            @texasag1969 said:

            Yep, I was yellin' at the TV last night, "Somebody tackle OBJ around the 20 dammit." I needed one last FG to win the damn FFL this week. The guy who played OBJ pulled ahead of me and the guy barely ahead of me on that one damn play. We didn't need to win by 20. 16 was just fine by me!.?

            lol... and there I was yelling "Go! GO!" when Bell almost broke that swing pass for a TD...

            Oh.... the things FF make us do against our nature...

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              B beare wrote on last edited by
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              The offense looks out sync there next 5 games oppenents are all 2-0 there gonna have improve fast.

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                @texasag1969 said:

                Yep, I was yellin' at the TV last night, "Somebody tackle OBJ around the 20 dammit." I needed one last FG to win the damn FFL this week. The guy who played OBJ pulled ahead of me and the guy barely ahead of me on that one damn play. We didn't need to win by 20. 16 was just fine by me!.?

                lol... and there I was yelling "Go! GO!" when Bell almost broke that swing pass for a TD...

                Oh.... the things FF make us do against our nature...

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @tour2ma said:

                lol... and there I was yelling "Go! GO!" when Bell almost broke that swing pass for a TD...

                Oh.... the things FF make us do against our nature...

                Yes, complete assholery.

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                  They're going to be a bigger dog than that by game time. 

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                  mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                  They're going to be a bigger dog than that by game time. 

                  Well Tuesday pm and the line looks like a solid CLE +3 so far, will it climb up?  From Vegas insider.com .

                  Meanwhile NE is touching -23.  😕

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                  GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                    They're going to be a bigger dog than that by game time. 

                    Well Tuesday pm and the line looks like a solid CLE +3 so far, will it climb up?  From Vegas insider.com .

                    Meanwhile NE is touching -23.  😕

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                    @mjp28 said:

                    Well Tuesday pm and the line looks like a solid CLE +3 so far, will it climb up?  From Vegas insider.com .

                    Meanwhile NE is touching -23.  😕

                    & the Cowboys are only -21 against the 'Fins? Yahoo fantasy- that's the preferred play 70%, Probably  only because the less skilled Survivor players already took the Patriots last week against Miami & can't use them again. 😁  

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                      darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                      Freddie prepares the O line for Aaron Donald match up

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                        jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                        This is the kind of game where we can get our feelings hurt if we don't come out and score a couple TD's instead of FG's.  Jared Goff hasn't been playing lights out, but we know what he's capable of and he's also protecting the football.  We know that our QB has 4 picks so far, and that's not something we're used to seeing.  What complicates this matter is our defense isn't exactly lighting up the turnover battle, and I think the only one we have is the late fumble Schobert forced against the Jets.  We absolutely MUST figure out a way to get more turnovers if we're going to win this game, or beat any of the good teams coming up on our daunting schedule.

                        As I went back and watched the game again, it's clear that we have issues, but they're definitely FIXABLE issues.  The biggest issue on offense against the Jets was not getting the play called in time.  Baker constantly trying to snap the ball with no time on the clock, and that's not fair to him, to the offensive line, or to any of the other players.  When you don't have time on the play clock, the defenders don't have to wait for the snap, as they know you have to hike it when it says zero or else it's a penalty.  This is a huge deal and completely unfair to the OL.  Additionally, it doesn't give Baker any time to decipher the defense, make audibles, or check to a hot route.  He doesn't get into a rhythm, the passing game clogs, and you get a choppy performance.  This has been discussed several times, but it's strange to see because it wasn't an issue LAST year, so why is it surfacing now?  

                        Also, will Baker finally be able to take what's given to him?  He talked about it after the Titans game, but we didn't see much improvement Monday night.  The one glaring example was on the interception, as Baker predetermined he was throwing it to OBJ, and instead of checking down to Chubb for an EASY 10 yards (maybe more, really), he forced it to OBJ and it was a pick.  These are exactly the type of scenarios we want to avoid, and Baker continues to SAY he's going to change, but he's not making the adjustments on the field.  

                        Baker is still showing plenty of ability, and as I watched again, I definitely noticed how nice some of the throws were.  That bullet to Landry before half time was absolutely incredible, and he had a couple to others including Ratley that were gorgeous.  Baker missed several uncharacteristic throws, including a very easy semi-deep one to OBJ on 3rd, and also an inexcusable wheel route to D'Ernest.  Baker opened up his base and didn't plant and throw which resulted in a lack of power.  D'Ernest was WIDE OPEN, and frankly, could've scored a TD because he had one guy in front of him, but there's a WR there to help block.  

                        Lots of fun stuff to talk about, and plenty of reason to be optimistic for a fun game.  Yes, we have things to work on, but so do the Rams.  They faced a pretty similar situation last week in that they played a backup QB and made short work of him, but didn't especially shine too bright on offense.  I think this is a game where our DB's are going to earn their money, and a game where Baker has a chance to explode for some big numbers.  Do not be surprised if we come out in the no-huddle right off the bat to combat the sleepiness of our offensive pace.  

                        Can't wait!

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                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                          They're going to be a bigger dog than that by game time. 

                          Well Tuesday pm and the line looks like a solid CLE +3 so far, will it climb up?  From Vegas insider.com .

                          Meanwhile NE is touching -23.  😕

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          True... Baker is showing flashes of 2018 approaching 50/50... but last year the ratio was 90/10 or more...

                          @mjp28 said:

                          Well Tuesday pm and the line looks like a solid CLE +3 so far, will it climb up?  From Vegas insider.com .

                          Meanwhile NE is touching -23.  😕

                          ... and 23 is still not enough...

                          @hoorta said:

                          & the Cowboys are only -21 against the 'Fins? Yahoo fantasy- that's the preferred play 70%, Probably  only because the less skilled Survivor players already took the Patriots last week against Miami & can't use them again. 😁  

                          Heard on NFL Live yesterday (IIRC) that two lines of 20+ has never happened before.

                          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                            True... Baker is showing flashes of 2018 approaching 50/50... but last year the ratio was 90/10 or more...

                            @mjp28 said:

                            Well Tuesday pm and the line looks like a solid CLE +3 so far, will it climb up?  From Vegas insider.com .

                            Meanwhile NE is touching -23.  😕

                            ... and 23 is still not enough...

                            @hoorta said:

                            & the Cowboys are only -21 against the 'Fins? Yahoo fantasy- that's the preferred play 70%, Probably  only because the less skilled Survivor players already took the Patriots last week against Miami & can't use them again. 😁  

                            Heard on NFL Live yesterday (IIRC) that two lines of 20+ has never happened before.

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                            mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                            @tour2ma said:

                            True... Baker is showing flashes of 2018 approaching 50/50... but last year the ratio was 90/10 or more...

                            ... and 23 is still not enough...

                            Heard on NFL Live yesterday (IIRC) that two lines of 20+ has never happened before.

                            High school?

                            GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                              @tour2ma said:

                              True... Baker is showing flashes of 2018 approaching 50/50... but last year the ratio was 90/10 or more...

                              ... and 23 is still not enough...

                              Heard on NFL Live yesterday (IIRC) that two lines of 20+ has never happened before.

                              High school?

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                              @mjp28 said:

                              High school?

                              NFL...

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                                @mjp28 said:

                                High school?

                                NFL...

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                                mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                                @tour2ma said:

                                NFL...

                                The NE 43 MIA 0 kind of reminded me of a high school game.

                                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                  @mjp28 said:

                                  High school?

                                  NFL...

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  NFL...

                                  @mjp28 said:

                                  The NE 43 MIA 0 kind of reminded me of a high school game.

                                  Nah- sort of like the slaughter I'm going to attend on Saturday, with my good pal and his two kids...  One an Ohio State grad, one a Miami Ohio grad. Should I take Miami with OSU -39?   😁 

                                  BTW,. I don't have a dog in this fight- my wife went to Miami, but I'll be dressed in scarlet & grey.   

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                                    Thursday am. The BROWNS are still a pretty solid +3 across the board evidently there are no money swings on either side of the line.

                                    Also can be taken as nobody really knows on this one.

                                    GO BROWNS! Just score baby!

                                    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                      Thursday am. The BROWNS are still a pretty solid +3 across the board evidently there are no money swings on either side of the line.

                                      Also can be taken as nobody really knows on this one.

                                      GO BROWNS! Just score baby!

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @mjp28 said:

                                      Thursday am. The BROWNS are still a pretty solid +3 across the board evidently there are no money swings on either side of the line.

                                      Also can be taken as nobody really knows on this one.

                                      GO BROWNS! Just score baby!

                                      Do you actually bet on games?

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                                        @mjp28 said:

                                        Thursday am. The BROWNS are still a pretty solid +3 across the board evidently there are no money swings on either side of the line.

                                        Also can be taken as nobody really knows on this one.

                                        GO BROWNS! Just score baby!

                                        Do you actually bet on games?

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Do you actually bet on games?

                                        I did for decades with my bookie but occasionally do now.  I do however like FLs, pick ems, survival and just SPORTS in general......a hobby now I guess.

                                        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Do you actually bet on games?

                                          I did for decades with my bookie but occasionally do now.  I do however like FLs, pick ems, survival and just SPORTS in general......a hobby now I guess.

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                                          @mjp28 said:

                                          I did for decades with my bookie but occasionally do now.  I do however like FLs, pick ems, survival and just SPORTS in general......a hobby now I guess.

                                          So.....you bet when it was illegal.....but now that it is legal, the thrill is gone?

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