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  • @the-gipper said:

    Why would Wilks have to change his defensive philosophy to accommodate Ramsey?

    What Wilks asks' of his corners to primarily play isn't tailored to the best ball that suits Ramsey.  He's an on man, hands on CB when he's at his best.  To do much of anything else with him to akin to buying a Ferrari but only driving it during rush hour.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    What Wilks asks' of his corners to primarily play isn't tailored to the best ball that suits Ramsey.  He's an on man, hands on CB when he's at his best.  To do much of anything else with him to akin to buying a Ferrari but only driving it during rush hour.  

    What about moving Ramsey to Safety? He has range... he hits. Seems to me he could play either spot.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    What Wilks asks' of his corners to primarily play isn't tailored to the best ball that suits Ramsey.  He's an on man, hands on CB when he's at his best.  To do much of anything else with him to akin to buying a Ferrari but only driving it during rush hour.  

    What about moving Ramsey to Safety? He has range... he hits. Seems to me he could play either spot.

    @tour2ma said:

    What about moving Ramsey to Safety? He has range... he hits. Seems to me he could play either spot.

    There is some history behind him playing some safety...   edit:  Would that be something I as a coach would attempt?  Not at this time.  Kid can still be shutdown corner.  Arguably the most valuable position on an NFL defense.

  • The fact that he’s requesting a trade after 2 games kinda irks me. I’m more interested in a player who want to be a part of my team than a guy who want to be a part of whatever team’s best for him.

  • The fact that he’s requesting a trade after 2 games kinda irks me. I’m more interested in a player who want to be a part of my team than a guy who want to be a part of whatever team’s best for him.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    The fact that he’s requesting a trade after 2 games kinda irks me. I’m more interested in a player who want to be a part of my team than a guy who want to be a part of whatever team’s best for him.

    He wants to void the rookie contract from what I understand. And probably won’t be the only one. 

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    The fact that he’s requesting a trade after 2 games kinda irks me. I’m more interested in a player who want to be a part of my team than a guy who want to be a part of whatever team’s best for him.

    He wants to void the rookie contract from what I understand. And probably won’t be the only one. 

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    He wants to void the rookie contract from what I understand. And probably won’t be the only one. 

    Yup.... it's become a trend.

  • I hope I'm wrong, but it sure feels like the NFL is slowly but surely turning into the NBA. 

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    He wants to void the rookie contract from what I understand. And probably won’t be the only one. 

    Yup.... it's become a trend.

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup.... it's become a trend.

    I can see a shorter rookie contract but not do away with it. And since why can players mandate their team. The NBA blows chunks because of that. 

  • It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

  • The fact that he’s requesting a trade after 2 games kinda irks me. I’m more interested in a player who want to be a part of my team than a guy who want to be a part of whatever team’s best for him.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    The fact that he’s requesting a trade after 2 games kinda irks me. I’m more interested in a player who want to be a part of my team than a guy who want to be a part of whatever team’s best for him.

    Or whatever team will offer him the most money... 

  • It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

    We had an opening. Our QB had nothing to do with winless hues track record

  • We don't need a player who seems to bring drama and that is what he is doing In Jax and that is why they both want to part ways. He wants out and they want him gone, I was surprised to see him play the entire game though, Thought they would want to keep their "Trade bait" safe.

  • We don't need a player who seems to bring drama and that is what he is doing In Jax and that is why they both want to part ways. He wants out and they want him gone, I was surprised to see him play the entire game though, Thought they would want to keep their "Trade bait" safe.

    @medicineman said:

    We don't need a player who seems to bring drama and that is what he is doing In Jax and that is why they both want to part ways. He wants out and they want him gone, I was surprised to see him play the entire game though, Thought they would want to keep their "Trade bait" safe.

    Is it drama? Or.... trying to get out of a rookie contract?  Looking like the NBA. Players choosing their team is utter bullshit

  • @tour2ma said:

    It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

    We had an opening. Our QB had nothing to do with winless hues track record

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    We had an opening. Our QB had nothing to do with winless hues track record

    The "point" was around the selection of the new HC... not the demise of the old.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    We had an opening. Our QB had nothing to do with winless hues track record

    The "point" was around the selection of the new HC... not the demise of the old.

    @tour2ma said:

    The "point" was around the selection of the new HC... not the demise of the old.

    The reading comprehension of some of the posters on here is staggering, isn't it?

  • I disagree with this move because we need to be able to sign OL in FA next season and/or in the draft.  I think OL should be added to the list of skill positions.  We just saw what happened to Andrew Luck without an OL, and we can't let that happen to Baker.  OL is the lifeblood of any team.

  • @medicineman said:

    We don't need a player who seems to bring drama and that is what he is doing In Jax and that is why they both want to part ways. He wants out and they want him gone, I was surprised to see him play the entire game though, Thought they would want to keep their "Trade bait" safe.

    Is it drama? Or.... trying to get out of a rookie contract?  Looking like the NBA. Players choosing their team is utter bullshit

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Is it drama? Or.... trying to get out of a rookie contract?  Looking like the NBA. Players choosing their team is utter bullshit

    TBH I never even thought of it like that but I bet you are right. For the life of me that has never even crossed my mind. I bet that is exactly what it is. And if we let this clown get away with it others will follow suit. 

  • It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

    It appears so. We'll see how it works out. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    What Wilks asks' of his corners to primarily play isn't tailored to the best ball that suits Ramsey.  He's an on man, hands on CB when he's at his best.  To do much of anything else with him to akin to buying a Ferrari but only driving it during rush hour.  

    What about moving Ramsey to Safety? He has range... he hits. Seems to me he could play either spot.

    @tour2ma said:

    What about moving Ramsey to Safety? He has range... he hits. Seems to me he could play either spot.

    Yahtzee!

  • @icecube said:

    I've had some of my Browns insiders text me on this. I really don't know why they would go this direction. They have enough volatile players as is. 

    No sense to go after a one year rent a player at the cost of (at least) a first round pick. Ramsey's rookie deal balloons to $13 million next year. Why would we want him with both Ward and Williams already on the roster?   

    @hoorta said:

    No sense to go after a one year rent a player at the cost of (at least) a first round pick. Ramsey's rookie deal balloons to $13 million next year. Why would we want him with both Ward and Williams already on the roster?   

    I agree, but they were looking at a deal, but Jags didn't get what they wanted (2 firsts) and it appears they chose to hang on to him. It appears Dorsey doesn't fear adding too many "volatile" players regardless. I feel you can overdo adding too many guys like that. To win a ring, you MUST have solid chemistry amongst the team, it is a MUST.

  • I disagree with this move because we need to be able to sign OL in FA next season and/or in the draft.  I think OL should be added to the list of skill positions.  We just saw what happened to Andrew Luck without an OL, and we can't let that happen to Baker.  OL is the lifeblood of any team.

    @unsympathetic said:

    I disagree with this move because we need to be able to sign OL in FA next season and/or in the draft.  I think OL should be added to the list of skill positions.  We just saw what happened to Andrew Luck without an OL, and we can't let that happen to Baker.  OL is the lifeblood of any team.

    Nope. Dime a dozen fatasses.