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  • The fact that he’s requesting a trade after 2 games kinda irks me. I’m more interested in a player who want to be a part of my team than a guy who want to be a part of whatever team’s best for him.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    The fact that he’s requesting a trade after 2 games kinda irks me. I’m more interested in a player who want to be a part of my team than a guy who want to be a part of whatever team’s best for him.

    Or whatever team will offer him the most money... 

  • It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

    We had an opening. Our QB had nothing to do with winless hues track record

  • We don't need a player who seems to bring drama and that is what he is doing In Jax and that is why they both want to part ways. He wants out and they want him gone, I was surprised to see him play the entire game though, Thought they would want to keep their "Trade bait" safe.

  • We don't need a player who seems to bring drama and that is what he is doing In Jax and that is why they both want to part ways. He wants out and they want him gone, I was surprised to see him play the entire game though, Thought they would want to keep their "Trade bait" safe.

    @medicineman said:

    We don't need a player who seems to bring drama and that is what he is doing In Jax and that is why they both want to part ways. He wants out and they want him gone, I was surprised to see him play the entire game though, Thought they would want to keep their "Trade bait" safe.

    Is it drama? Or.... trying to get out of a rookie contract?  Looking like the NBA. Players choosing their team is utter bullshit

  • @tour2ma said:

    It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

    We had an opening. Our QB had nothing to do with winless hues track record

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    We had an opening. Our QB had nothing to do with winless hues track record

    The "point" was around the selection of the new HC... not the demise of the old.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    We had an opening. Our QB had nothing to do with winless hues track record

    The "point" was around the selection of the new HC... not the demise of the old.

    @tour2ma said:

    The "point" was around the selection of the new HC... not the demise of the old.

    The reading comprehension of some of the posters on here is staggering, isn't it?

  • I disagree with this move because we need to be able to sign OL in FA next season and/or in the draft.  I think OL should be added to the list of skill positions.  We just saw what happened to Andrew Luck without an OL, and we can't let that happen to Baker.  OL is the lifeblood of any team.

  • @medicineman said:

    We don't need a player who seems to bring drama and that is what he is doing In Jax and that is why they both want to part ways. He wants out and they want him gone, I was surprised to see him play the entire game though, Thought they would want to keep their "Trade bait" safe.

    Is it drama? Or.... trying to get out of a rookie contract?  Looking like the NBA. Players choosing their team is utter bullshit

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Is it drama? Or.... trying to get out of a rookie contract?  Looking like the NBA. Players choosing their team is utter bullshit

    TBH I never even thought of it like that but I bet you are right. For the life of me that has never even crossed my mind. I bet that is exactly what it is. And if we let this clown get away with it others will follow suit. 

  • It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    It's not as if NFL players are now picking their HCs...

    ... oops...

    ... didn't our QB kinda do that? 😉

    It appears so. We'll see how it works out. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    What Wilks asks' of his corners to primarily play isn't tailored to the best ball that suits Ramsey.  He's an on man, hands on CB when he's at his best.  To do much of anything else with him to akin to buying a Ferrari but only driving it during rush hour.  

    What about moving Ramsey to Safety? He has range... he hits. Seems to me he could play either spot.

    @tour2ma said:

    What about moving Ramsey to Safety? He has range... he hits. Seems to me he could play either spot.

    Yahtzee!

  • @icecube said:

    I've had some of my Browns insiders text me on this. I really don't know why they would go this direction. They have enough volatile players as is. 

    No sense to go after a one year rent a player at the cost of (at least) a first round pick. Ramsey's rookie deal balloons to $13 million next year. Why would we want him with both Ward and Williams already on the roster?   

    @hoorta said:

    No sense to go after a one year rent a player at the cost of (at least) a first round pick. Ramsey's rookie deal balloons to $13 million next year. Why would we want him with both Ward and Williams already on the roster?   

    I agree, but they were looking at a deal, but Jags didn't get what they wanted (2 firsts) and it appears they chose to hang on to him. It appears Dorsey doesn't fear adding too many "volatile" players regardless. I feel you can overdo adding too many guys like that. To win a ring, you MUST have solid chemistry amongst the team, it is a MUST.

  • I disagree with this move because we need to be able to sign OL in FA next season and/or in the draft.  I think OL should be added to the list of skill positions.  We just saw what happened to Andrew Luck without an OL, and we can't let that happen to Baker.  OL is the lifeblood of any team.

    @unsympathetic said:

    I disagree with this move because we need to be able to sign OL in FA next season and/or in the draft.  I think OL should be added to the list of skill positions.  We just saw what happened to Andrew Luck without an OL, and we can't let that happen to Baker.  OL is the lifeblood of any team.

    Nope. Dime a dozen fatasses. 

  • You can get very good OL on Day 2 of the draft... and good "prospects" on Day 3. That said...

    The one area where's Dorsey's talent evaluation record is weak... spotty at best... is OL.

  • Oline is a lot about your scheme/coach, and your QB.  I like our Oline coach and our QB did a great job last year making quick decisions- when that happened was Robinson or Hubbard a problem?  And when it happens again this year - they will not be a problem.  I still think we target a LT or RT with our 1 or 2 round pick.  But the folks wanting a complete overhaul- I think it’s completely unnecessary.  The interior has actually played well 

    We need TE- I’ve lost faith in Njoku.  If he was a stellar run blocker I could live with his drops but there is no way we pay him after his rookie deal.

    We could use a Safety too.  I’d prefer not to trade away draft capital for a DB/S in Ramsey who we need to throw huge money at- unless you feel Ward is not in the future plans.  So you pay Ramsey and let Ward Walk after his rookie deal. 

  • You can get very good OL on Day 2 of the draft... and good "prospects" on Day 3. That said...

    The one area where's Dorsey's talent evaluation record is weak... spotty at best... is OL.

    @tour2ma said:

    You can get very good OL on Day 2 of the draft... and good "prospects" on Day 3. That said...

    The one area where's Dorsey's talent evaluation record is weak... spotty at best... is OL.

    /topic/54291

    I’d heard that about his OL track record so l did a little research a few weeks back and focused on Dorsey OL draft picks. His track record is better than l thought it would be.

  • Oline is a lot about your scheme/coach, and your QB.  I like our Oline coach and our QB did a great job last year making quick decisions- when that happened was Robinson or Hubbard a problem?  And when it happens again this year - they will not be a problem.  I still think we target a LT or RT with our 1 or 2 round pick.  But the folks wanting a complete overhaul- I think it’s completely unnecessary.  The interior has actually played well 

    We need TE- I’ve lost faith in Njoku.  If he was a stellar run blocker I could live with his drops but there is no way we pay him after his rookie deal.

    We could use a Safety too.  I’d prefer not to trade away draft capital for a DB/S in Ramsey who we need to throw huge money at- unless you feel Ward is not in the future plans.  So you pay Ramsey and let Ward Walk after his rookie deal. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Oline is a lot about your scheme/coach, and your QB.  I like our Oline coach and our QB did a great job last year making quick decisions- when that happened was Robinson or Hubbard a problem?  And when it happens again this year - they will not be a problem.  I still think we target a LT or RT with our 1 or 2 round pick.  But the folks wanting a complete overhaul- I think it’s completely unnecessary.  The interior has actually played well 

    We need TE- I’ve lost faith in Njoku.  If he was a stellar run blocker I could live with his drops but there is no way we pay him after his rookie deal.

    We could use a Safety too.  I’d prefer not to trade away draft capital for a DB/S in Ramsey who we need to throw huge money at- unless you feel Ward is not in the future plans.  So you pay Ramsey and let Ward Walk after his rookie deal. 

    I am also not enamored with Njoku. With his level of blocking, he'd better damn well have "glue fingers" & he does NOT! I consider TE a weaker area than OL.

    I love Ward. He is an exceptional talent, but I am very concerned about his durability. I'm leavin' this stuff up to JD & staff.

    Mike

  • I hope I'm wrong, but it sure feels like the NFL is slowly but surely turning into the NBA. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I hope I'm wrong, but it sure feels like the NFL is slowly but surely turning into the NBA. 

    Star players get leverage now. If they want out, they get it. 

    I don’t blame a young player for not wanting to waste their time on a subpar team or situation.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I hope I'm wrong, but it sure feels like the NFL is slowly but surely turning into the NBA. 

    Star players get leverage now. If they want out, they get it. 

    I don’t blame a young player for not wanting to waste their time on a subpar team or situation.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Star players get leverage now. If they want out, they get it. 

    I don’t blame a young player for not wanting to waste their time on a subpar team or situation.

    If it were me I would want to be drafted by a bad team, I would want to be named as a reason for the big turn around, Kind of like what they say about Baker and Myles. Why go to a team like the Pats where they don't need you and are going to win regardless? The Pats could make Kenny Britt look like a great No 1 WR. and he sucks more cock than a 5 dollar crack whore in Pittsburgh 

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Star players get leverage now. If they want out, they get it. 

    I don’t blame a young player for not wanting to waste their time on a subpar team or situation.

    If it were me I would want to be drafted by a bad team, I would want to be named as a reason for the big turn around, Kind of like what they say about Baker and Myles. Why go to a team like the Pats where they don't need you and are going to win regardless? The Pats could make Kenny Britt look like a great No 1 WR. and he sucks more cock than a 5 dollar crack whore in Pittsburgh 

    @medicineman said:

    If it were me I would want to be drafted by a bad team, I would want to be named as a reason for the big turn around, Kind of like what they say about Baker and Myles. Why go to a team like the Pats where they don't need you and are going to win regardless? The Pats could make Kenny Britt look like a great No 1 WR. and he sucks more cock than a 5 dollar crack whore in Pittsburgh 

    If it keeps going down the NBA road with players deciding their teams, the nfl could belly up. 

    And those $5 crack hoes in dicksburg are the best thing they have going there

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

    We had an opening. Our QB had nothing to do with winless hues track record

    The "point" was around the selection of the new HC... not the demise of the old.

    @tour2ma said:

    The "point" was around the selection of the new HC... not the demise of the old.

    Baker had input but was not involved in selecting Freddie. That was a pure JD call. And the fact that they played well together last season sure had a lot to do with it. But Baker himself had little to do with it.  You must be thinking Lebron..... but he’s not here