Baltimore Sucks
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Not a fan of Modell by any stretch, but pissing on his "grave"? No... I draw the line at "Jump, Art! JUMP!"
As for the Ravens... They are a natural rival given our history... and I love rivalries. What other team shares a division with three, true rivals? Where two rivals, CIN and BLT, were made off the playing field? It's been 20 years, but we are finally approaching the full realization of all those rivalries on the field.
Who can we thank for setting up our unique division? Art...
I love it...
Not a fan of Modell by any stretch, but pissing on his "grave"? No... I draw the line at "Jump, Art! JUMP!"
As for the Ravens... They are a natural rival given our history... and I love rivalries. What other team shares a division with three, true rivals? Where two rivals, CIN and BLT, were made off the playing field? It's been 20 years, but we are finally approaching the full realization of all those rivalries on the field.
Who can we thank for setting up our unique division? Art...
I love it...
I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
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Not a fan of Modell by any stretch, but pissing on his "grave"? No... I draw the line at "Jump, Art! JUMP!"
As for the Ravens... They are a natural rival given our history... and I love rivalries. What other team shares a division with three, true rivals? Where two rivals, CIN and BLT, were made off the playing field? It's been 20 years, but we are finally approaching the full realization of all those rivalries on the field.
Who can we thank for setting up our unique division? Art...
I love it...
I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
Right on. I’ve often thought Detroit makes sense geographically. And ole fart getting love on this board??? Blasphemy!
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The only thing you can thank Baltimore for is The Wire... And it was made thanks to its criminal rates.
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The only thing you can thank Baltimore for is The Wire... And it was made thanks to its criminal rates.
The only thing you can thank Baltimore for is The Wire... And it was made thanks to its criminal rates.
Not a fan of John Waters movies? Or crab cakes?
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Not a fan of John Waters movies? Or crab cakes?
I’ve had homemade crab cakes I loved. All others kinda sucked
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Not a fan of Modell by any stretch, but pissing on his "grave"? No... I draw the line at "Jump, Art! JUMP!"
As for the Ravens... They are a natural rival given our history... and I love rivalries. What other team shares a division with three, true rivals? Where two rivals, CIN and BLT, were made off the playing field? It's been 20 years, but we are finally approaching the full realization of all those rivalries on the field.
Who can we thank for setting up our unique division? Art...
I love it...
I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
And how far "east" is Dallas?
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I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
And how far "east" is Dallas?
And how far "east" is Dallas?
A little OT, but I totally agree. That was Jerry Jones at work. Didn't want to lose the "rivalry" with the Redskins. Apparently, what Jerry wants, Jerry gets. Just another reason to hate "South America's Team". So fhaking what? Those of us old enough to remember back in the 60s the Browns had a big rivalry with the Giants that went by the wayside. The Cowboys should have been in the same division as New Orleans.
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I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
And how far "east" is Dallas?
And how far "east" is Dallas?
One of the most "out of place" teams was when Jacksonville was in the AFCN.
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One of the most "out of place" teams was when Jacksonville was in the AFCN.
It was not called the AFCN then The Central I believe
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Or crab cakes?
BLT crab cakes are the best!
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Or crab cakes?
BLT crab cakes are the best!
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In my opinion Ft. McHenry ranks #1 in this country as a patriotic experience. Over anything in DC or Mt. Rushmore, or any Civil War or Revolutionary War Battlefield. Arizona Memorial probably 2d. So, Baltimore has that going for it.
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In my opinion Ft. McHenry ranks #1 in this country as a patriotic experience. Over anything in DC or Mt. Rushmore, or any Civil War or Revolutionary War Battlefield. Arizona Memorial probably 2d. So, Baltimore has that going for it.
In my opinion Ft. McKenzie ???McHenry??????ranks #1 in this country as a patriotic experience. Over anything in DC or Mt. Rushmore, or any Civil War or Revolutionary War Battlefield. Arizona Memorial probably 2d. So, Baltimore has that going for it.
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One of the most "out of place" teams was when Jacksonville was in the AFCN.
As I said earlier, it was NOT the AFC North when Jax was in the same division....it was called the AFC Central. The last season under the old league setup was 2001. The "current league" as it is now set started in 2002. Here was the standings in the last season, 2001 AFC Central under the old alignment:
AFC Central Pittsburgh Steelers* 13 3 .813 352 212 140 8.8 -1.4 7.4 1.5 5.8 Baltimore Ravens+ 10 6 .625 303 265 38 2.4 0.8 3.2 -0.8 4.0 Cleveland Browns 7 9 .438 285 319 -34 -2.1 1.3 -0.8 -0.9 0.1 Tennessee Titans 7 9 .438 336 388 -52 -3.3 1.2 -2.0 2.4 -4.4 Jacksonville Jaguars 6 10 .375 294 286 8 0.5 0.4 0.9 -1.1 2.0 Cincinnati Bengals 6 10 .375 226 309 -83 -5.2 1.7 -3.5 -4.5 1.0 And here, 2002 is the first season of the AFCNorth:
AFC North Pittsburgh Steelers* 10 5 1 .656 390 345 45 2.8 -0.1 2.7 3.1 -0.4 Cleveland Browns+ 9 7 0 .563 344 320 24 1.5 -0.3 1.2 -0.4 1.7 Baltimore Ravens 7 9 0 .438 316 354 -38 -2.4 0.3 -2.1 -1.5 -0.6 Cincinnati Bengals 2 14 0 .125 279 456 -177 -11.1 0.6 -10.5 -3.6 -6.9 If you all recall, back in the 70s and throughout the 80s...up until the mid 90s I believe, the AFC Central lineup was the Browns, Steelers, Bengals...and the Houston Oilers. That too was a big geographical discrepancy. They had, for a long time 3 divisions in each conference where 2 divisions had 5 teams...and one had 4...the Central. Indianapolis remained in the East after the Colts moved from Baltimore...but they never switched divisions for that team....UNTIL 2002. Kansas City would have been more "Central" than Houston....but they wanted to keep the rivalries that the Chiefs had with the Raiders/Chargers/Broncos.
But...there is no doubt that the league ...at least the AFC could do some realigning, of the current setup if it wanted to, to make things more geographically accurate.
Miami would go to the South, Baltimore to the East, and likely Indy to the North.
I don't know what you would do in the NFC. Dallas is out of place, but really, all the other teams in that Conf. seem like they are where they belong. Unless say, they and Carolina would switch places...but really Charlotte/Carolina IS a "southern" town, so the south seems a better match for them than the North. So, just let Dallas have to travel.
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It was not called the AFCN then The Central I believe
Yes, I had a notion to look it up before posting...had one of those lazy moments and let her fly lol.
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One of the most "out of place" teams was when Jacksonville was in the AFCN.
That's true along with (from 1992 for example)
AFC Central Pittsburgh Steelers* 11 5 .688 299 225 74 4.6 -1.0 3.6 -0.4 4.0 Houston Oilers+ 10 6 .625 352 258 94 5.9 -0.3 5.5 3.0 2.6 Cleveland Browns 7 9 .438 272 275 -3 -0.2 -0.8 -1.0 -2.0 1.0 Cincinnati Bengals 5 11 .313 274 364 -90 -5.6 -1.0 -6.6 -0.9 -5.7 -
Still can't get used to it. The most gaudy name/logo combo in the NFL.
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