Baltimore Sucks
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Not a fan of Modell by any stretch, but pissing on his "grave"? No... I draw the line at "Jump, Art! JUMP!"
As for the Ravens... They are a natural rival given our history... and I love rivalries. What other team shares a division with three, true rivals? Where two rivals, CIN and BLT, were made off the playing field? It's been 20 years, but we are finally approaching the full realization of all those rivalries on the field.
Who can we thank for setting up our unique division? Art...
I love it...
I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
And how far "east" is Dallas?
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I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
And how far "east" is Dallas?
And how far "east" is Dallas?
A little OT, but I totally agree. That was Jerry Jones at work. Didn't want to lose the "rivalry" with the Redskins. Apparently, what Jerry wants, Jerry gets. Just another reason to hate "South America's Team". So fhaking what? Those of us old enough to remember back in the 60s the Browns had a big rivalry with the Giants that went by the wayside. The Cowboys should have been in the same division as New Orleans.
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I said at the time of his death, the family should have had Art cremated. Sooner or later, it was bound to happen. I'd bet it's been done more than once, with less fanfare.
And nope, I disagree. The Ravens belong in the AFC East. Besides giving the Patriots some legit competition, we should have had the Bills or Colts with us in the North. Cincinnati is farther "south" than Indianapolis.
And how far "east" is Dallas?
And how far "east" is Dallas?
One of the most "out of place" teams was when Jacksonville was in the AFCN.
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One of the most "out of place" teams was when Jacksonville was in the AFCN.
It was not called the AFCN then The Central I believe
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Or crab cakes?
BLT crab cakes are the best!
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Or crab cakes?
BLT crab cakes are the best!
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In my opinion Ft. McHenry ranks #1 in this country as a patriotic experience. Over anything in DC or Mt. Rushmore, or any Civil War or Revolutionary War Battlefield. Arizona Memorial probably 2d. So, Baltimore has that going for it.
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In my opinion Ft. McHenry ranks #1 in this country as a patriotic experience. Over anything in DC or Mt. Rushmore, or any Civil War or Revolutionary War Battlefield. Arizona Memorial probably 2d. So, Baltimore has that going for it.
In my opinion Ft. McKenzie ???McHenry??????ranks #1 in this country as a patriotic experience. Over anything in DC or Mt. Rushmore, or any Civil War or Revolutionary War Battlefield. Arizona Memorial probably 2d. So, Baltimore has that going for it.
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One of the most "out of place" teams was when Jacksonville was in the AFCN.
As I said earlier, it was NOT the AFC North when Jax was in the same division....it was called the AFC Central. The last season under the old league setup was 2001. The "current league" as it is now set started in 2002. Here was the standings in the last season, 2001 AFC Central under the old alignment:
AFC Central Pittsburgh Steelers* 13 3 .813 352 212 140 8.8 -1.4 7.4 1.5 5.8 Baltimore Ravens+ 10 6 .625 303 265 38 2.4 0.8 3.2 -0.8 4.0 Cleveland Browns 7 9 .438 285 319 -34 -2.1 1.3 -0.8 -0.9 0.1 Tennessee Titans 7 9 .438 336 388 -52 -3.3 1.2 -2.0 2.4 -4.4 Jacksonville Jaguars 6 10 .375 294 286 8 0.5 0.4 0.9 -1.1 2.0 Cincinnati Bengals 6 10 .375 226 309 -83 -5.2 1.7 -3.5 -4.5 1.0 And here, 2002 is the first season of the AFCNorth:
AFC North Pittsburgh Steelers* 10 5 1 .656 390 345 45 2.8 -0.1 2.7 3.1 -0.4 Cleveland Browns+ 9 7 0 .563 344 320 24 1.5 -0.3 1.2 -0.4 1.7 Baltimore Ravens 7 9 0 .438 316 354 -38 -2.4 0.3 -2.1 -1.5 -0.6 Cincinnati Bengals 2 14 0 .125 279 456 -177 -11.1 0.6 -10.5 -3.6 -6.9 If you all recall, back in the 70s and throughout the 80s...up until the mid 90s I believe, the AFC Central lineup was the Browns, Steelers, Bengals...and the Houston Oilers. That too was a big geographical discrepancy. They had, for a long time 3 divisions in each conference where 2 divisions had 5 teams...and one had 4...the Central. Indianapolis remained in the East after the Colts moved from Baltimore...but they never switched divisions for that team....UNTIL 2002. Kansas City would have been more "Central" than Houston....but they wanted to keep the rivalries that the Chiefs had with the Raiders/Chargers/Broncos.
But...there is no doubt that the league ...at least the AFC could do some realigning, of the current setup if it wanted to, to make things more geographically accurate.
Miami would go to the South, Baltimore to the East, and likely Indy to the North.
I don't know what you would do in the NFC. Dallas is out of place, but really, all the other teams in that Conf. seem like they are where they belong. Unless say, they and Carolina would switch places...but really Charlotte/Carolina IS a "southern" town, so the south seems a better match for them than the North. So, just let Dallas have to travel.
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It was not called the AFCN then The Central I believe
Yes, I had a notion to look it up before posting...had one of those lazy moments and let her fly lol.
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One of the most "out of place" teams was when Jacksonville was in the AFCN.
That's true along with (from 1992 for example)
AFC Central Pittsburgh Steelers* 11 5 .688 299 225 74 4.6 -1.0 3.6 -0.4 4.0 Houston Oilers+ 10 6 .625 352 258 94 5.9 -0.3 5.5 3.0 2.6 Cleveland Browns 7 9 .438 272 275 -3 -0.2 -0.8 -1.0 -2.0 1.0 Cincinnati Bengals 5 11 .313 274 364 -90 -5.6 -1.0 -6.6 -0.9 -5.7 -
Still can't get used to it. The most gaudy name/logo combo in the NFL.
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In all seriousness, KC gave a good blue print on stifling Lamar's hot start-make him a pocket thrower. Outside of a few truly ridiculous catches, The Chiefs controlled that game by making Baltimore keep the ball on the ground. Obviously they had a lot of success running the ball, but our defensive front seven is much more stout than KC's unit. With the great scheme Wilks rolled out last week, I'm hopeful we'll employ the same strategy.
Offensively? I just hope Freddie gets beat over the head with what worked Sunday Night as opposed to what clearly didn't. I'm much, much less confident in that however.
I've had a chance to review the Ravens and what they do on defense and offense, and holy shit. So regardless of who they played, they're playing top 5 worthy in all 3 phases of the game. Offense, defense,special teams. Offensively, they don't have a single turnover all year. Lamar is top 5 in virtually every passing category, and leads the league with consecutive passes without a pick. Their defensive line is stupid amazing and they lead the league in QB hits and I believe they're top 3 in yards per carry. Their players are just ALWAYS around the QB, and that scares me more than anything. Baker isn't doing well with pressure, and that's causing to panic WITHOUT pressure.
Once they get into the red zone, it's going to be a touchdown almost every time. They're rated 10th in red zone offense, and I believe we're ranked somewhere ahead of the 83 Buccaneers, but below the 2006 Lions. All kidding aside, our red zone offense is deplorable, and it's awful because of Baker Mayfield. The media will tell you, the film will tell you, and HE will tell you. You can't blame the OL, can't blame Kitchens (well, a little), and can't blame defense.
"So Jiggins, are you saying the Ravens are the NFL juggernaut and don't have any weaknesses?" Well no, I'm not saying that, but unfortunately their weaknesses don't align well with what we do. They're weak at the back end of their defense, as they've given up some big pass plays. Baker will definitely have opportunities for a big strike throughout the game, and he'll have to hit on them. This will not be a game where we orchestrate 16 play drives, as we're not built for that. They're weak in the secondary, but our weakness is our QB. Not good.
I think you're going to know how this game is going to end after the first quarter. If we're down 10-0 or something like that...just turn it off. Baker will press, the interceptions will follow, and all hell will break loose. But if we move the ball early, score a few points, and punch them in the mouth...we.might have a game. We're going to know very early, so here's to hoping.
I will say that there's something in the back of my mind, some little idea niggling it's way to the forefront of my deteriorated mind. The idea that Baker Mayfield, the guy who is massively crapping the bed, comes out on fire and lights Baltimore up for 400 and 4 TDS. Baker takes all the negativity and all the times people said he wasn't good enough, and he puts together the game of his young life.
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Well, one thing's for sure, Baltimore doesn't suck as bad as Cleveland. The city and the team, I'm talking about. I'm surprised that there's even a fanbase left for this team, one that hasn't made any kind of mark in the league in forever. You're still so bitter about the Ravens coming to Baltimore. Not only just COMING to Baltimore, but turning the team around and becoming an actual contender in the league since they got here. Meanwhile, the stank-a$$ Browns still have never been competitive...never even appearing in a Superbowl, while we have won 2. I think it's great that year after year you have so much hatred for us, while we don't even give your team a second thought. I'm sure the excitement in your city this year was overwhelming...for about 10 minutes. Then quickly everyone realized, same old Browns, same old organization. Only the names have changed. It's humorous as he!! that the fans there actually think you have rivals, like the Steelers and Ravens, but you people are too dumb to realize that only YOU think your team has a rival. That's just you all wanting to be relevant in the league, which you most certainly are not. My advice to you guys is to hop off the Browns train, and come over to a winning side. Staying where you're at is just going to continue to cause your lives misery. But if you stay there, try not to slit your wrists Sunday afternoon. But I'm sure you all will be ok, you're used to the pain.
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lol...I didn't know I could cuss, I thought it'd be a reason to kick me off quick. Nice to make your acquaintance.
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Well, one thing's for sure, Baltimore doesn't suck as bad as Cleveland. The city and the team, I'm talking about. I'm surprised that there's even a fanbase left for this team, one that hasn't made any kind of mark in the league in forever. You're still so bitter about the Ravens coming to Baltimore. Not only just COMING to Baltimore, but turning the team around and becoming an actual contender in the league since they got here. Meanwhile, the stank-a$$ Browns still have never been competitive...never even appearing in a Superbowl, while we have won 2. I think it's great that year after year you have so much hatred for us, while we don't even give your team a second thought. I'm sure the excitement in your city this year was overwhelming...for about 10 minutes. Then quickly everyone realized, same old Browns, same old organization. Only the names have changed. It's humorous as he!! that the fans there actually think you have rivals, like the Steelers and Ravens, but you people are too dumb to realize that only YOU think your team has a rival. That's just you all wanting to be relevant in the league, which you most certainly are not. My advice to you guys is to hop off the Browns train, and come over to a winning side. Staying where you're at is just going to continue to cause your lives misery. But if you stay there, try not to slit your wrists Sunday afternoon. But I'm sure you all will be ok, you're used to the pain.
Well, one thing's for sure, Baltimore doesn't suck as bad as Cleveland. The city and the team, I'm talking about. I'm surprised that there's even a fanbase left for this team, one that hasn't made any kind of mark in the league in forever. You're still so bitter about the Ravens coming to Baltimore. Not only just COMING to Baltimore, but turning the team around and becoming an actual contender in the league since they got here. Meanwhile, the stank-a$$ Browns still have never been competitive...never even appearing in a Superbowl, while we have won 2. I think it's great that year after year you have so much hatred for us, while we don't even give your team a second thought. I'm sure the excitement in your city this year was overwhelming...for about 10 minutes. Then quickly everyone realized, same old Browns, same old organization. Only the names have changed. It's humorous as he!! that the fans there actually think you have rivals, like the Steelers and Ravens, but you people are too dumb to realize that only YOU think your team has a rival. That's just you all wanting to be relevant in the league, which you most certainly are not. My advice to you guys is to hop off the Browns train, and come over to a winning side. Staying where you're at is just going to continue to cause your lives misery. But if you stay there, try not to slit your wrists Sunday afternoon. But I'm sure you all will be ok, you're used to the pain.
I'd also have high hopes for Lamar 'don't make me pass' Jackson and Jim 'Last chance' Harbough.
See you on Sunday.
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