Flags/Penalties
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If only there was a referee standing right over the players to eject a dude for literally choking a player on the field..man, too bad.
Anything less than some game suspensions is unacceptable, for both the player and the ref.
If only there was a referee standing right over the players to eject a dude for literally choking a player on the field..man, too bad.
Anything less than some game suspensions is unacceptable, for both the player and the ref.
Ya I saw that. Will he be their next knife murderer? Refs were told to call less penalties. That sure didn’t make them better tho
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It's just a normal Bama-LSU thing. Move along. Nothing to see.???
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If only there was a referee standing right over the players to eject a dude for literally choking a player on the field..man, too bad.
Anything less than some game suspensions is unacceptable, for both the player and the ref.
If only there was a referee standing right over the players to eject a dude for literally choking a player on the field..man, too bad.
Anything less than some game suspensions is unacceptable, for both the player and the ref.
Obj threw a punch also and didn't get ejected. If they go back and suspend Humphrey for the choking then expect obj to get suspended for throwing a little 1-2 combo
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If only there was a referee standing right over the players to eject a dude for literally choking a player on the field..man, too bad.
Anything less than some game suspensions is unacceptable, for both the player and the ref.
Obj threw a punch also and didn't get ejected. If they go back and suspend Humphrey for the choking then expect obj to get suspended for throwing a little 1-2 combo
Obj threw a punch also and didn't get ejected. If they go back and suspend Humphrey for the choking then expect obj to get suspended for throwing a little 1-2 combo
Punches are thrown quite often in games. Can't say I see the two hands to the throat takedown very often though.
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Have seen a choke hold in football since Reynolds choked Sorgi...
We may have been in the playoffs in 07 if it was applied a little tighter. Lol.
To Humphrey’s credit he apologized yesterday, I think he even realized he was way over the line
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If only there was a referee standing right over the players to eject a dude for literally choking a player on the field..man, too bad.
Anything less than some game suspensions is unacceptable, for both the player and the ref.
Obj threw a punch also and didn't get ejected. If they go back and suspend Humphrey for the choking then expect obj to get suspended for throwing a little 1-2 combo
Obj threw a punch also and didn't get ejected. If they go back and suspend Humphrey for the choking then expect obj to get suspended for throwing a little 1-2 combo
I don't disagree, but the below poster is exactly right. There's probably 3-4 cases of a dude throwing a blow like OBJ did on any given football Sunday. He was wrong to do it, and is very likely to get fined. Here's the direct replay: https://sports.yahoo.com/drama-in-browns-ravens-leads-to-obj-getting-chokeslammed-by-marlon-humphrey-200322604.html. OBJ was clearly getting held by the way, but that action "punch" isn't something that makes you recoil.
Humphry on the other hand committed what would be a felony and even attempted murder in some cases, and that's not being dramatic. It just ain't the same. If Burfict just got a full year suspension for a helmet to helmet hit, there's no way this shouldn't get at least one game. It's absolutely unacceptable.
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First... anyone throwing a punch at a helmeted player is stupid.... because... you know... helmet...
But for a skill position player, especially Receivers and QBs, to do so is double-stupid... at a minimum.
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We may have been in the playoffs in 07 if it was applied a little tighter. Lol.
To Humphrey’s credit he apologized yesterday, I think he even realized he was way over the line
Apparently Humphrey was told by Harbaugh "to get physical" with OBJ. Also apparently that's SOP around the league to stop Beckham. BTW, on the pass Beckham threw- I thought they easily could have called PI.
First... anyone throwing a punch at a helmeted player is stupid.... because... you know... helmet...
But for a skill position player, especially Receivers and QBs, to do so is double-stupid... at a minimum.
Um, like you could break your hand?
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We may have been in the playoffs in 07 if it was applied a little tighter. Lol.
To Humphrey’s credit he apologized yesterday, I think he even realized he was way over the line
Apparently Humphrey was told by Harbaugh "to get physical" with OBJ. Also apparently that's SOP around the league to stop Beckham. BTW, on the pass Beckham threw- I thought they easily could have called PI.
First... anyone throwing a punch at a helmeted player is stupid.... because... you know... helmet...
But for a skill position player, especially Receivers and QBs, to do so is double-stupid... at a minimum.
Um, like you could break your hand?
Apparently Humphrey was told by Harbaugh "to get physical" with OBJ. Also apparently that's SOP around the league to stop Beckham. BTW, on the pass Beckham threw- I thought they easily could have called PI.
Um, like you could break your hand?
I thought perhaps that Freddie would challenge that now that PI penalties can be challenged.
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Apparently Humphrey was told by Harbaugh "to get physical" with OBJ. Also apparently that's SOP around the league to stop Beckham. BTW, on the pass Beckham threw- I thought they easily could have called PI.
Um, like you could break your hand?
I thought perhaps that Freddie would challenge that now that PI penalties can be challenged.
I thought perhaps that Freddie would challenge that now that PI penalties can be challenged.
Ratley was wearing a Raven. It could have been called. But The PI reviews haven’t been overturned that often and I don’t think they give PI serious consideration in jump ball scenarios. This was almost like a one on one Hail Mary scenario
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Punches are thrown quite often in games. Can't say I see the two hands to the throat takedown very often though.
You're right but my point is anytime a punch is thrown it's supposed to be automatic ejection. So if they go back and look at it they very well may say OBJ threw a punch and should have been ejected but wasn't so we need to suspend him for a game.
Also I would be willing to bet that plenty of times players are choking the ball carrier at the bottom of piles a lot more often than one would think. As tour astutely pointed out look at the Robert Reynolds choke that actually kept sorgi out of games afterwards. He thought he had enough cover from a pile to do so. Im not excusing Humphrey's behavior at all I'm just not going to say "oh my God the audacity of Humphreys" knowing it goes on in piles at football games of every level from high school up. Honestly eye gouging in piles is a big reason visors have become such a commonplace. It sure as hell isn't for glare because it can't be tinted enough to block out light (ask obj).
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Punches are thrown quite often in games. Can't say I see the two hands to the throat takedown very often though.
You're right but my point is anytime a punch is thrown it's supposed to be automatic ejection. So if they go back and look at it they very well may say OBJ threw a punch and should have been ejected but wasn't so we need to suspend him for a game.
Also I would be willing to bet that plenty of times players are choking the ball carrier at the bottom of piles a lot more often than one would think. As tour astutely pointed out look at the Robert Reynolds choke that actually kept sorgi out of games afterwards. He thought he had enough cover from a pile to do so. Im not excusing Humphrey's behavior at all I'm just not going to say "oh my God the audacity of Humphreys" knowing it goes on in piles at football games of every level from high school up. Honestly eye gouging in piles is a big reason visors have become such a commonplace. It sure as hell isn't for glare because it can't be tinted enough to block out light (ask obj).
You're right but my point is anytime a punch is thrown it's supposed to be automatic ejection. So if they go back and look at it they very well may say OBJ threw a punch and should have been ejected but wasn't so we need to suspend him for a game.
Also I would be willing to bet that plenty of times players are choking the ball carrier at the bottom of piles a lot more often than one would think. As tour astutely pointed out look at the Robert Reynolds choke that actually kept sorgi out of games afterwards. He thought he had enough cover from a pile to do so. Im not excusing Humphrey's behavior at all I'm just not going to say "oh my God the audacity of Humphreys" knowing it goes on in piles at football games of every level from high school up. Honestly eye gouging in piles is a big reason visors have become such a commonplace. It sure as hell isn't for glare because it can't be tinted enough to block out light (ask obj).
The major reason for those visors is to avoid getting poked in the eye. As one of the all time dirtiest players from yesteryear Conrad Dobler said when asked if he ever bit someone. "Sure, if they're dumb enough to stick their hand inside may helmet."
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The only penalty I really had a problem with was the illegal blindside block on Ratley. It was obvious that Ratley went out of his way NOT to completely obliterate the defender, which he could have done very easily. It was a cheap call and completely unnecessary. The spirit of the rule was to avoid injury, and to prevent those violent "crack-back" blocks, Ratley popped the guy a little bit in the shoulder pads, and it should not have been called in my mind.
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The only penalty I really had a problem with was the illegal blindside block on Ratley. It was obvious that Ratley went out of his way NOT to completely obliterate the defender, which he could have done very easily. It was a cheap call and completely unnecessary. The spirit of the rule was to avoid injury, and to prevent those violent "crack-back" blocks, Ratley popped the guy a little bit in the shoulder pads, and it should not have been called in my mind.
The only penalty I really had a problem with was the illegal blindside block on Ratley. It was obvious that Ratley went out of his way NOT to completely obliterate the defender, which he could have done very easily. It was a cheap call and completely unnecessary. The spirit of the rule was to avoid injury, and to prevent those violent "crack-back" blocks, Ratley popped the guy a little bit in the shoulder pads, and it should not have been called in my mind.
Yeah I tossed the remote on that one.
it was such a lousy half @ss block too. He went out of his way to make it look legal. This is twice this year we’ve been hit with that one. Coaches need to step up at this point.
We were taught back in the day to yell out the backers name he’d hopefully turn and you would deliver a nice clean legal shot and clear the edge for the RB.
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You're right but my point is anytime a punch is thrown it's supposed to be automatic ejection. So if they go back and look at it they very well may say OBJ threw a punch and should have been ejected but wasn't so we need to suspend him for a game.
Also I would be willing to bet that plenty of times players are choking the ball carrier at the bottom of piles a lot more often than one would think. As tour astutely pointed out look at the Robert Reynolds choke that actually kept sorgi out of games afterwards. He thought he had enough cover from a pile to do so. Im not excusing Humphrey's behavior at all I'm just not going to say "oh my God the audacity of Humphreys" knowing it goes on in piles at football games of every level from high school up. Honestly eye gouging in piles is a big reason visors have become such a commonplace. It sure as hell isn't for glare because it can't be tinted enough to block out light (ask obj).
The major reason for those visors is to avoid getting poked in the eye. As one of the all time dirtiest players from yesteryear Conrad Dobler said when asked if he ever bit someone. "Sure, if they're dumb enough to stick their hand inside may helmet."
The major reason for those visors is to avoid getting poked in the eye. As one of the all time dirtiest players from yesteryear Conrad Dobler said when asked if he ever bit someone. "Sure, if they're dumb enough to stick their hand inside may helmet."
Hands? Hell... Conrad used to bite legs. In one pile he even mistakenly bit a teammate's leg. Story went that the player screamed, "Goddammit, Dobler.... that's me!"
And every QB knew, one way or the other, that if Big Daddy Lipscomb ever extended a hand to help you up after knocking you down, you did not take it... He'd try to crush your hand
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Punches are thrown quite often in games. Can't say I see the two hands to the throat takedown very often though.
You're right but my point is anytime a punch is thrown it's supposed to be automatic ejection. So if they go back and look at it they very well may say OBJ threw a punch and should have been ejected but wasn't so we need to suspend him for a game.
Also I would be willing to bet that plenty of times players are choking the ball carrier at the bottom of piles a lot more often than one would think. As tour astutely pointed out look at the Robert Reynolds choke that actually kept sorgi out of games afterwards. He thought he had enough cover from a pile to do so. Im not excusing Humphrey's behavior at all I'm just not going to say "oh my God the audacity of Humphreys" knowing it goes on in piles at football games of every level from high school up. Honestly eye gouging in piles is a big reason visors have become such a commonplace. It sure as hell isn't for glare because it can't be tinted enough to block out light (ask obj).
You're right but my point is anytime a punch is thrown it's supposed to be automatic ejection. So if they go back and look at it they very well may say OBJ threw a punch and should have been ejected but wasn't so we need to suspend him for a game.
Also I would be willing to bet that plenty of times players are choking the ball carrier at the bottom of piles a lot more often than one would think. As tour astutely pointed out look at the Robert Reynolds choke that actually kept sorgi out of games afterwards. He thought he had enough cover from a pile to do so. Im not excusing Humphrey's behavior at all I'm just not going to say "oh my God the audacity of Humphreys" knowing it goes on in piles at football games of every level from high school up. Honestly eye gouging in piles is a big reason visors have become such a commonplace. It sure as hell isn't for glare because it can't be tinted enough to block out light (ask obj).
I'm not sure anyone disagrees with you, I don't anyway. That argument doesn't really hold a ton of water though when you think about it. People steal from Walmart every day, but that doesn't mean the police shouldn't get involved if someone robs the place at gun point. Trust me, I've been in scraps on the field where spit and eye pokes weren't out of the question. I get it's part of the game
But for Marlon to choke (read: strangle) an opponent in plain view is the equivalent of my example of a robbing a store at gun point. It went egregiously above the scrappy nature of football (of which I'd include blows being thrown). FWIW, I'd be saying the same thing if the situation was reversed.
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Both should have been tossed...
Neither was...
On to San Francisco...
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You're right but my point is anytime a punch is thrown it's supposed to be automatic ejection. So if they go back and look at it they very well may say OBJ threw a punch and should have been ejected but wasn't so we need to suspend him for a game.
Also I would be willing to bet that plenty of times players are choking the ball carrier at the bottom of piles a lot more often than one would think. As tour astutely pointed out look at the Robert Reynolds choke that actually kept sorgi out of games afterwards. He thought he had enough cover from a pile to do so. Im not excusing Humphrey's behavior at all I'm just not going to say "oh my God the audacity of Humphreys" knowing it goes on in piles at football games of every level from high school up. Honestly eye gouging in piles is a big reason visors have become such a commonplace. It sure as hell isn't for glare because it can't be tinted enough to block out light (ask obj).
I'm not sure anyone disagrees with you, I don't anyway. That argument doesn't really hold a ton of water though when you think about it. People steal from Walmart every day, but that doesn't mean the police shouldn't get involved if someone robs the place at gun point. Trust me, I've been in scraps on the field where spit and eye pokes weren't out of the question. I get it's part of the game
But for Marlon to choke (read: strangle) an opponent in plain view is the equivalent of my example of a robbing a store at gun point. It went egregiously above the scrappy nature of football (of which I'd include blows being thrown). FWIW, I'd be saying the same thing if the situation was reversed.
I'm not sure anyone disagrees with you, I don't anyway. That argument doesn't really hold a ton of water though when you think about it. People steal from Walmart every day, but that doesn't mean the police shouldn't get involved if someone robs the place at gun point. Trust me, I've been in scraps on the field where spit and eye pokes weren't out of the question. I get it's part of the game
But for Marlon to choke (read: strangle) an opponent in plain view is the equivalent of my example of a robbing a store at gun point. It went egregiously above the scrappy nature of football (of which I'd include blows being thrown). FWIW, I'd be saying the same thing if the situation was reversed.
Again I am not defending Marlon I am saying that I would rather them not even look at the situation again so that they don't suspend OBJ for the game in San Francisco. To me the visibility of it doesn't make the act anymore egregious than if it happened in a pile. In both instances a player is trying to choke another.
As tour said above both should have been ejected, but neither were. For that reason im not gonna get on my soapbox and say Humphrey needs to be suspended because he should have been ejected. If they retroactively punish one of them for the officials not electing to eject him they would need to do it to both of them. If you think both should be suspended then that's fine I don't think either should be suspended. I don't think you can call for a suspension to one and not the other though.
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You're right but my point is anytime a punch is thrown it's supposed to be automatic ejection. So if they go back and look at it they very well may say OBJ threw a punch and should have been ejected but wasn't so we need to suspend him for a game.
Also I would be willing to bet that plenty of times players are choking the ball carrier at the bottom of piles a lot more often than one would think. As tour astutely pointed out look at the Robert Reynolds choke that actually kept sorgi out of games afterwards. He thought he had enough cover from a pile to do so. Im not excusing Humphrey's behavior at all I'm just not going to say "oh my God the audacity of Humphreys" knowing it goes on in piles at football games of every level from high school up. Honestly eye gouging in piles is a big reason visors have become such a commonplace. It sure as hell isn't for glare because it can't be tinted enough to block out light (ask obj).
I'm not sure anyone disagrees with you, I don't anyway. That argument doesn't really hold a ton of water though when you think about it. People steal from Walmart every day, but that doesn't mean the police shouldn't get involved if someone robs the place at gun point. Trust me, I've been in scraps on the field where spit and eye pokes weren't out of the question. I get it's part of the game
But for Marlon to choke (read: strangle) an opponent in plain view is the equivalent of my example of a robbing a store at gun point. It went egregiously above the scrappy nature of football (of which I'd include blows being thrown). FWIW, I'd be saying the same thing if the situation was reversed.
But for Marlon to choke (read: strangle) an opponent in plain view
Upon further review of closeup footage Marlon was not choking (read: strangling) OBJ like I originally thought. His hands were on OBJ chest plate the entire time. His right hand did slide off his chest plate when they first went down to the ground but he grabbed it right back. He was pushing his chest plate up towards his head but he didn't have his hands directly on his throat/neck like I thought.
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