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  • Another thought - Chubbs' game, his patience, burst, strength and vision, is really what allows this team to get away with some of the deficiencies on the Oline at times.    

    Kid looks like a young Le"Veon Bell back there.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Kid looks like a young Le"Veon Bell back there. 

    Beat you by at least a week on this comparison...

    This week I thought I saw hints of Jamaal Lewis in his prime... gliding power with enough speed to go the distance...

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yep, but it was that sudden acceleration that shot him through the gap and clearly ahead of everyone. The 90 was impressive, but today's was even more so IMO. Like turtles after a roadrunner.

    Yup... it's his burst... top end is good, but not elite... but that burst.

    Needs a sports-science look at his MPH...

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Did you see the block by Greg Robinson on that run? He shoved that LB so hard that it caused him to lose track of Chubb JUST long enough to allow him to burst through like a bullet. Go back and watch that play, it's a subtle block that really paid off. In fact, Greg Robinson played his best game I've seen in a while. He also sprung Chubb on his other TD run and avoided his patented holding calls (I think). I also saw Greg throwing somebody's ass around a few times and I loved it. McPhee got the best of him super early one time, and then Greg laid the smack down (McPhee tried to bullrush Greg and was met with the stonewall, lol). 

    Greg's run blocking won him the starting job last year... and sent a couple rivals packing.

    Seemed that Bito consistently shaded Greg's way in PassPro again yesterday, but it's just my impression based upon spot focus at this point.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Kid looks like a young Le"Veon Bell back there. 

    Beat you by at least a week on this comparison...

    This week I thought I saw hints of Jamaal Lewis in his prime... gliding power with enough speed to go the distance...

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yep, but it was that sudden acceleration that shot him through the gap and clearly ahead of everyone. The 90 was impressive, but today's was even more so IMO. Like turtles after a roadrunner.

    Yup... it's his burst... top end is good, but not elite... but that burst.

    Needs a sports-science look at his MPH...

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Did you see the block by Greg Robinson on that run? He shoved that LB so hard that it caused him to lose track of Chubb JUST long enough to allow him to burst through like a bullet. Go back and watch that play, it's a subtle block that really paid off. In fact, Greg Robinson played his best game I've seen in a while. He also sprung Chubb on his other TD run and avoided his patented holding calls (I think). I also saw Greg throwing somebody's ass around a few times and I loved it. McPhee got the best of him super early one time, and then Greg laid the smack down (McPhee tried to bullrush Greg and was met with the stonewall, lol). 

    Greg's run blocking won him the starting job last year... and sent a couple rivals packing.

    Seemed that Bito consistently shaded Greg's way in PassPro again yesterday, but it's just my impression based upon spot focus at this point.

    @tour2ma said:

    Needs a sports-science look at his MPH...

    I believe I saw they had him at 21.95 mph for 40 continuous yards. The fastest of the year from what I understand. That's stunning. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    - Opportunistic defense.   They did a good job hanging in against an offense that's going to get theirs.  But the blueprint to beat Balt is there.  Get to their backs before they get to you, creative negative runs or runs for no gain and force Lamar to pass from 3rd and 5+.    Easier said than done, but the concept is on film and paper between the Chargers and KC game.

    Totally agree. As much as I love a Garrett sack, it seemed that the pressure job was left to the inside DTs with the DEs doing their best to keep him between the Ts long enough for the DTs to flush him for his shorter gains. Willing to take the occasional longer QB edge runs vs RBs up the middle. That took that funny word "discipline" that had seemed missing so much until this week. Nothing like seeing OLs and DLs working as a mesh in concert, whichever one was on the field. Lines win football and this game was an excellent example.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Totally agree. As much as I love a Garrett sack, it seemed that the pressure job was left to the inside DTs with the DEs doing their best to keep him between the Ts long enough for the DTs to flush him for his shorter gains. Willing to take the occasional longer QB edge runs vs RBs up the middle. That took that funny word "discipline" that had seemed missing so much until this week. Nothing like seeing OLs and DLs working as a mesh in concert, whichever one was on the field. Lines win football and this game was an excellent example.?

    Good point and I said the same last week  you need a controlled blitz against that team Stay in your lane and contain day for DE against the gimmick O.  

    It was never going to be a Garrett sack day- he will get his this week the Niners have a weak tackle, but it’s no secret this week they are gonna go Shanny stretch on us and quick hitters to Pettis and Kittle.  Garrett has to feast on playaction 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Needs a sports-science look at his MPH...

    I believe I saw they had him at 21.95 mph for 40 continuous yards. The fastest of the year from what I understand. That's stunning. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I believe I saw they had him at 21.95 mph for 40 continuous yards. The fastest of the year from what I understand. That's stunning. 

    That kinda speed would stun me... that's well above his Combine performance... albeit the Combine does not report top speed, just "average".

    And while a 4.52 40 is nothing to sneeze at... his 10-yd time was outstanding.

    40 Yard Dash: 4.52 seconds
    40 Yard (MPH): 18.1 (MPH)
    20 Yard Dash: 2.67 seconds
    10 Yard Dash: 1.62 seconds

    http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Nick&l=Chubb&i=27055

  • @tour2ma said:

    Needs a sports-science look at his MPH...

    I believe I saw they had him at 21.95 mph for 40 continuous yards. The fastest of the year from what I understand. That's stunning. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I believe I saw they had him at 21.95 mph for 40 continuous yards. The fastest of the year from what I understand. That's stunning. 

    Yea, but he can't compete against that old RB from Smallville High. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Yep, but it was that sudden acceleration that shot him through the gap and clearly ahead of everyone. The 90 was impressive, but today's was even more so IMO. Like turtles after a roadrunner.

    Did you see the block by Greg Robinson on that run? He shoved that LB so hard that it caused him to lose track of Chubb JUST long enough to allow him to burst through like a bullet. Go back and watch that play, it's a subtle block that really paid off. In fact, Greg Robinson played his best game I've seen in a while. He also sprung Chubb on his other TD run and avoided his patented holding calls (I think). I also saw Greg throwing somebody's ass around a few times and I loved it. McPhee got the best of him super early one time, and then Greg laid the smack down (McPhee tried to bullrush Greg and was met with the stonewall, lol). 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Did you see the block by Greg Robinson on that run? He shoved that LB so hard that it caused him to lose track of Chubb JUST long enough to allow him to burst through like a bullet. Go back and watch that play, it's a subtle block that really paid off. In fact, Greg Robinson played his best game I've seen in a while. He also sprung Chubb on his other TD run and avoided his patented holding calls (I think). I also saw Greg throwing somebody's ass around a few times and I loved it. McPhee got the best of him super early one time, and then Greg laid the smack down (McPhee tried to bullrush Greg and was met with the stonewall, lol). 

    But IIRC didn't Kush still get nailed for a couple holding calls?  Also- what was up there Myles on the starting your rush about a second early on the Raven's two point try? That almost guaranteed them a score on the next play. 

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Did you see the block by Greg Robinson on that run? He shoved that LB so hard that it caused him to lose track of Chubb JUST long enough to allow him to burst through like a bullet. Go back and watch that play, it's a subtle block that really paid off. In fact, Greg Robinson played his best game I've seen in a while. He also sprung Chubb on his other TD run and avoided his patented holding calls (I think). I also saw Greg throwing somebody's ass around a few times and I loved it. McPhee got the best of him super early one time, and then Greg laid the smack down (McPhee tried to bullrush Greg and was met with the stonewall, lol). 

    But IIRC didn't Kush still get nailed for a couple holding calls?  Also- what was up there Myles on the starting your rush about a second early on the Raven's two point try? That almost guaranteed them a score on the next play. 

    @hoorta said:

    But IIRC didn't Kush still get nailed for a couple holding calls?  Also- what was up there Myles on the starting your rush about a second early on the Raven's two point try? That almost guaranteed them a score on the next play. 

    One holding call and one false start (I think) for Kush, and yes...Myles had another one of his patented offsides that did hurt.  

  • @hoorta said:

    But IIRC didn't Kush still get nailed for a couple holding calls?  Also- what was up there Myles on the starting your rush about a second early on the Raven's two point try? That almost guaranteed them a score on the next play. 

    One holding call and one false start (I think) for Kush, and yes...Myles had another one of his patented offsides that did hurt.  

    @jiggins7919 said:

    One holding call and one false start (I think) for Kush, and yes...Myles had another one of his patented offsides that did hurt.  

    I think Myles is in a 1 to 1 ratio offsides to sacks. I'll take that any day of the week since both strike fear in QBs.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    I believe I saw they had him at 21.95 mph for 40 continuous yards. The fastest of the year from what I understand. That's stunning. 

    That kinda speed would stun me... that's well above his Combine performance... albeit the Combine does not report top speed, just "average".

    And while a 4.52 40 is nothing to sneeze at... his 10-yd time was outstanding.

    40 Yard Dash: 4.52 seconds
    40 Yard (MPH): 18.1 (MPH)
    20 Yard Dash: 2.67 seconds
    10 Yard Dash: 1.62 seconds

    http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Nick&l=Chubb&i=27055

    @tour2ma said:

    That kinda speed would stun me... that's well above his Combine performance... albeit the Combine does not report top speed, just "average".

    And while a 4.52 40 is nothing to sneeze at... his 10-yd time was outstanding.

    40 Yard Dash: 4.52 seconds
    40 Yard (MPH): 18.1 (MPH)
    20 Yard Dash: 2.67 seconds
    10 Yard Dash: 1.62 seconds

    http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Nick&l=Chubb&i=27055

    Here's a link to the article.  Crazy, right?

    https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/nick-chubb-posts-fastest-td-run-in-nfl-giving-browns-2-in-top-5-for-2019?utm_source=google.com&utm_medium=referral

  • Thanks, jiggins... this really made me lol...

    “He can roll,” said quarterback Baker Mayfield, who hit 18.92 miles per hour while chasing Chubb down the field in celebration. 

    And I never would have guessed Chubb has more top end than OBJ...

  • Thanks, jiggins... this really made me lol...

    “He can roll,” said quarterback Baker Mayfield, who hit 18.92 miles per hour while chasing Chubb down the field in celebration. 

    And I never would have guessed Chubb has more top end than OBJ...

    @tour2ma said:

    Thanks, jiggins... this really made me lol...

    And I never would have guessed Chubb has more top end than OBJ...

    And just as I thought, that 7th gear in that run was faster than the top end in the 90 yarder last year by a full mph +. This is a very good thing. Shows he has fully recovered the speed I saw him with before injury at Georgia.

  • @orion said:

    Nick Chubb can run really fast!  (REALLY JOHN!  You drafted Austin Corbette before him?) 

    Big win for us!   -  Feels good!!

    In all fairness I had seen Chubb play pre and post extreme knee injury at Georgia and he had lost all of 7th gear. Today was the first time I saw him back to that pre injury top speed he had been so highly recruited for in the first place. Now that he has it back, I'm glad NE took Michel and we got the better of the two top backs in that draft.

    @texasag1969 said:

    In all fairness I had seen Chubb play pre and post extreme knee injury at Georgia and he had lost all of 7th gear. Today was the first time I saw him back to that pre injury top speed he had been so highly recruited for in the first place. Now that he has it back, I'm glad NE took Michel and we got the better of the two top backs in that draft.

    Saquon says boo!!!!

  • @texasag1969 said:

    In all fairness I had seen Chubb play pre and post extreme knee injury at Georgia and he had lost all of 7th gear. Today was the first time I saw him back to that pre injury top speed he had been so highly recruited for in the first place. Now that he has it back, I'm glad NE took Michel and we got the better of the two top backs in that draft.

    Saquon says boo!!!!

    @gunz41 said:

    Saquon says boo!!!!

    Saquon Barkley would have been a terrible choice for us considering what we got in that draft. 

  • ^^^^^^^^^  yep!! 

  • While Gallman will never be mistaken for Saquon, his 118 combined yards and 2 TD performance Sunday was more than serviceable for the G-men.

  • At :57 seconds in that video.  A little wing trap from the gun to spring Chubb free for 8 yards.    This was something Romo (?) touched on during the Rams game and was surprised he didn't see more of.       

    Little coaching adjustments like that, the attention to the finer details, it gives me a bit of hope for this staff.

  • Ricky tweets a picture with friends after the game. ?

  • .................... Imagine if Freddie would've handed the ball to Chubb - all 4 times if needed, against the Rams on that final 1st and goal series.

  • sorry if this was posted already:

  • humphries was holding etc OBJ a lot of the game.

    Check it out - Kitchens says they plan to follow up on the officiating.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-humphrey-beckham-browns-kitchens-20191001-qwiecexvhzgs7b6quwomcdnqgy-story.html