WEEK 5 - BROWNS an early +3 underdog and the O/U is 47 on MNF in SF........now +5
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It is Hard to put stock in Team Stat Rankings the first 4/5 games of the year. When we get further along and each team inevitably faces stiffer defenses or more potent offenses the numbers tend to average out.
I respect the Niners but Mayfield will be the most dangerous (no pun intended) QB the Niners have faced and just happens to have the best weapons of the teams that the Niners have played. And arguably the biggest mismatch of the game Garrett vs whomever is in the Browns favor. OBJ is a problem for the Niners unless Richard Sherman from the Legion of Doom shows up- you go down the line and the matchups look worse. The Niners have arguably their best performing corner out. They will play soft to not give up chunk plays and I expect YAC yardage from the Browns next Monday.
The Niners have the homefield but by some accounts the Browns will travel well there and they have had the luxury of playing 2 other primetime games.
I don’t think the Niners can just clean up their act and not turn the ball over and they win and that’s what i hear from some Niner faithful. They will have some matchups that they have to gameplan around.
It ain’t all bad for the Niners Watching the Niners this year and knowing Shanny the Browns need to be very disciplined with the run D. The key is getting Obi and Richardson crashing the line and getting Niner backs going east or west right way on the zone read and then getting the backers in to clean up the lateral run. Thankfully we are in the mode having played the Ravens last week. It’s a different mode as the Ravens can hit you hard off center or guard. If we aren’t beat up too badly from it we should fair pretty well considering both offenses will require Browns front 7 to be discipline and not reckless with their attack on the LOS. I still expect the Niners to run the ball though
Lastly, the Browns need Ward or Greedy back. The Niners have some targets and they execute the short intermediate pass game very well. Kittle is also a huge issue thankfully Randall is back and maybe we deploy our Rookie on him as well. We will have problems with Kittle and the others if play this soft zone garbage.
Niner Fan any tips for Browns fans going to the game?
A lot to unpack there.
1) Totally agree that he is the most dangerous QB they will have faced so far and that the skill positions will be the best they have seen.
2) Agree that Garrett vs Skule and however else they choose to address that will be the biggest mismatch on the field. That's my biggest concern. Thats what happens when you lose your swing tackle in the first quarter of a preseason game for the year and your Pro Bowl LT in week 3. Ouch. Its always those times when you lose multiple guys at the same position that kill you.
3) DBs....possibly. Its true that Witherspoon is out and I don't trust Tarvarius Moore, but Jimmie Ward is a player when he's healthy, I like JD Reid, and the Niners seem to love Emmanuel Moseley...tho I have no idea why. LOL. Sherman looks like teh old Sherman, now over a year removed from the Achilles. Still, certainly alot more star power at WR for the Browns than in the Secondary for the 49ers.
I think you are leaving out a big piece here tho....49ers Pass Rush. Bosa has been a monster. He has 17 pressures through three games....which is the same as Garrett. Difference being he's been gimping around on a sore ankle and he hasn't been able to finish those plays with Sacks. Yet. He is more healthy now though, so should be fun. What he did to the LT of the Steelers (Alejandro Villanueva) should be illegal. LOL.
Mind you...that's just Bosa. That's not Dee Ford or DeForest Buckner.
4) Not sure more Primetime Games is really an advantage.
5) I don't think they can just clean it up either in terms of holding on to the ball...but should be noted they had a combined 3 turnovers in week 1 and 2. Week 3 seems more of an oddity than a trend...especially since so many of the turnovers were unforced.
6) Ravens...OK, don't take this as me trying to devalue a team you beat and looked great until 2 weeks ago. I am not impressed with the Ravens or Lamar Jackson. The reason though has nothing to do with the Ravens/Browns game. It has everything to do with the Harbaugh Brothers, Greg Roman, and that offensive scheme.
I saw that offense. Greg Roman was the 49ers OC with Colin Kaepernick. Is Lamar better than Kap? Maybe...but its the same damn offense that gets regurgitated and everyone calls it "new" and "unprecedented". Its an outstanding power run game with defined looks for the QB with a ton of play action. Hell, the 49ers took it to the Super Bowl in 2012. Its been figured out. It will work here and there and against lesser opponents, but that O and Lamar Jackson are short for the NFL landscape. Trust me. I've seen it. Recently. They are getting exposed now just as I suspected.
The 49ers began to recognize that fact and that's when they tried to make Kap a pocket passer...and he's just not. Same will happen to Lamar.
7) Advice? I'm guessing you might already have yer tix by now but try to get seats on the Niners sideline (Suite Tower side). If you don't, you'll be blinded by the sun on the visitor side until the sun drops behind the tower. Its West Coast time, so sun will still be out for most of the first half.
Niner fans have gotten a bad reputation for being a-holes at games, but alot of that "element" was priced out of the building when they moved to Levis. Stadium will probably have alot of empty seats at kickoff because the early start is right in the middle of rush hour. The stadium is flanked on all sides by big tech companies (one of which I work for and walk to the game from work) so getting in and out on a week night can be a challenge.
If you have any specific questions, let me know. Looking forward to the game.
A lot to unpack there.
1) Totally agree that he is the most dangerous QB they will have faced so far and that the skill positions will be the best they have seen.
2) Agree that Garrett vs Skule and however else they choose to address that will be the biggest mismatch on the field. That's my biggest concern. Thats what happens when you lose your swing tackle in the first quarter of a preseason game for the year and your Pro Bowl LT in week 3. Ouch. Its always those times when you lose multiple guys at the same position that kill you.
3) DBs....possibly. Its true that Witherspoon is out and I don't trust Tarvarius Moore, but Jimmie Ward is a player when he's healthy, I like JD Reid, and the Niners seem to love Emmanuel Moseley...tho I have no idea why. LOL. Sherman looks like teh old Sherman, now over a year removed from the Achilles. Still, certainly alot more star power at WR for the Browns than in the Secondary for the 49ers.
I think you are leaving out a big piece here tho....49ers Pass Rush. Bosa has been a monster. He has 17 pressures through three games....which is the same as Garrett. Difference being he's been gimping around on a sore ankle and he hasn't been able to finish those plays with Sacks. Yet. He is more healthy now though, so should be fun. What he did to the LT of the Steelers (Alejandro Villanueva) should be illegal. LOL.
Mind you...that's just Bosa. That's not Dee Ford or DeForest Buckner.
4) Not sure more Primetime Games is really an advantage.
5) I don't think they can just clean it up either in terms of holding on to the ball...but should be noted they had a combined 3 turnovers in week 1 and 2. Week 3 seems more of an oddity than a trend...especially since so many of the turnovers were unforced.
6) Ravens...OK, don't take this as me trying to devalue a team you beat and looked great until 2 weeks ago. I am not impressed with the Ravens or Lamar Jackson. The reason though has nothing to do with the Ravens/Browns game. It has everything to do with the Harbaugh Brothers, Greg Roman, and that offensive scheme.
I saw that offense. Greg Roman was the 49ers OC with Colin Kaepernick. Is Lamar better than Kap? Maybe...but its the same damn offense that gets regurgitated and everyone calls it "new" and "unprecedented". Its an outstanding power run game with defined looks for the QB with a ton of play action. Hell, the 49ers took it to the Super Bowl in 2012. Its been figured out. It will work here and there and against lesser opponents, but that O and Lamar Jackson are short for the NFL landscape. Trust me. I've seen it. Recently. They are getting exposed now just as I suspected.
The 49ers began to recognize that fact and that's when they tried to make Kap a pocket passer...and he's just not. Same will happen to Lamar.
7) Advice? I'm guessing you might already have yer tix by now but try to get seats on the Niners sideline (Suite Tower side). If you don't, you'll be blinded by the sun on the visitor side until the sun drops behind the tower. Its West Coast time, so sun will still be out for most of the first half.
Niner fans have gotten a bad reputation for being a-holes at games, but alot of that "element" was priced out of the building when they moved to Levis. Stadium will probably have alot of empty seats at kickoff because the early start is right in the middle of rush hour. The stadium is flanked on all sides by big tech companies (one of which I work for and walk to the game from work) so getting in and out on a week night can be a challenge.
If you have any specific questions, let me know. Looking forward to the game.
Yep tickets bought endzone south end corner browns side. Thanks for the advice! We have some aholes too. Not too worried about it as I am with a few Niner fans. I was told the other endzone is Dawg Pound West - the Backers club in the Bay Area bought out the tickets.
I didn’t intentionally forget your dline. We will most certainly have our work cut out for us. Many of us have watched Nick Bosa at OSU- I believe you have the better Bosa and we will need to account for him at all times. The key could be our Oline buying some time forcing you guys to send Backers and singling up our targets on the outside. Outside of Sherman I’m not terribly familiar with the other names Verrett is off his 2nd or 3rd year end injury. Browns are deep and dangerous and if Landry clears and Higgins is back someone will get open in the group. Our Line has taken a lot of heat- some Browns fans want to replace the most of the unit others see most of the issues on play calls and Baker spending the first couple weeks hanging onto the ball or running out of clean pockets. They aren’t bad IMO and they played well last week.
Im harsh on our rebuilt secondary if Ward or Greedy can’t go and we protect the backups by playing off coverage - we are toast unless Myles and Co get to Jimmy often.
Playing a third prime time game in 5 weeks has to be a positive for a young team like the Browns- you could tell in the Jets game we were a little too amped up.
Now about those Ravens... The only thing I’ll say about the Ravens. They are a challenge for 60 minutes. Your D has to change its mindset with Lamar floating all around the pocket. It’s is a gimmick offense that can hold the ball for 35-40 minutes and keep your offense off the field. I thought they had a horrible game plan against the Browns but seeing Lamar now 2 and half games helped the Browns defend him. The Niners will score on them but they will move the chains on your D.
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A lot to unpack there.
1) Totally agree that he is the most dangerous QB they will have faced so far and that the skill positions will be the best they have seen.
2) Agree that Garrett vs Skule and however else they choose to address that will be the biggest mismatch on the field. That's my biggest concern. Thats what happens when you lose your swing tackle in the first quarter of a preseason game for the year and your Pro Bowl LT in week 3. Ouch. Its always those times when you lose multiple guys at the same position that kill you.
3) DBs....possibly. Its true that Witherspoon is out and I don't trust Tarvarius Moore, but Jimmie Ward is a player when he's healthy, I like JD Reid, and the Niners seem to love Emmanuel Moseley...tho I have no idea why. LOL. Sherman looks like teh old Sherman, now over a year removed from the Achilles. Still, certainly alot more star power at WR for the Browns than in the Secondary for the 49ers.
I think you are leaving out a big piece here tho....49ers Pass Rush. Bosa has been a monster. He has 17 pressures through three games....which is the same as Garrett. Difference being he's been gimping around on a sore ankle and he hasn't been able to finish those plays with Sacks. Yet. He is more healthy now though, so should be fun. What he did to the LT of the Steelers (Alejandro Villanueva) should be illegal. LOL.
Mind you...that's just Bosa. That's not Dee Ford or DeForest Buckner.
4) Not sure more Primetime Games is really an advantage.
5) I don't think they can just clean it up either in terms of holding on to the ball...but should be noted they had a combined 3 turnovers in week 1 and 2. Week 3 seems more of an oddity than a trend...especially since so many of the turnovers were unforced.
6) Ravens...OK, don't take this as me trying to devalue a team you beat and looked great until 2 weeks ago. I am not impressed with the Ravens or Lamar Jackson. The reason though has nothing to do with the Ravens/Browns game. It has everything to do with the Harbaugh Brothers, Greg Roman, and that offensive scheme.
I saw that offense. Greg Roman was the 49ers OC with Colin Kaepernick. Is Lamar better than Kap? Maybe...but its the same damn offense that gets regurgitated and everyone calls it "new" and "unprecedented". Its an outstanding power run game with defined looks for the QB with a ton of play action. Hell, the 49ers took it to the Super Bowl in 2012. Its been figured out. It will work here and there and against lesser opponents, but that O and Lamar Jackson are short for the NFL landscape. Trust me. I've seen it. Recently. They are getting exposed now just as I suspected.
The 49ers began to recognize that fact and that's when they tried to make Kap a pocket passer...and he's just not. Same will happen to Lamar.
7) Advice? I'm guessing you might already have yer tix by now but try to get seats on the Niners sideline (Suite Tower side). If you don't, you'll be blinded by the sun on the visitor side until the sun drops behind the tower. Its West Coast time, so sun will still be out for most of the first half.
Niner fans have gotten a bad reputation for being a-holes at games, but alot of that "element" was priced out of the building when they moved to Levis. Stadium will probably have alot of empty seats at kickoff because the early start is right in the middle of rush hour. The stadium is flanked on all sides by big tech companies (one of which I work for and walk to the game from work) so getting in and out on a week night can be a challenge.
If you have any specific questions, let me know. Looking forward to the game.
Yep tickets bought endzone south end corner browns side. Thanks for the advice! We have some aholes too. Not too worried about it as I am with a few Niner fans. I was told the other endzone is Dawg Pound West - the Backers club in the Bay Area bought out the tickets.
I didn’t intentionally forget your dline. We will most certainly have our work cut out for us. Many of us have watched Nick Bosa at OSU- I believe you have the better Bosa and we will need to account for him at all times. The key could be our Oline buying some time forcing you guys to send Backers and singling up our targets on the outside. Outside of Sherman I’m not terribly familiar with the other names Verrett is off his 2nd or 3rd year end injury. Browns are deep and dangerous and if Landry clears and Higgins is back someone will get open in the group. Our Line has taken a lot of heat- some Browns fans want to replace the most of the unit others see most of the issues on play calls and Baker spending the first couple weeks hanging onto the ball or running out of clean pockets. They aren’t bad IMO and they played well last week.
Im harsh on our rebuilt secondary if Ward or Greedy can’t go and we protect the backups by playing off coverage - we are toast unless Myles and Co get to Jimmy often.
Playing a third prime time game in 5 weeks has to be a positive for a young team like the Browns- you could tell in the Jets game we were a little too amped up.
Now about those Ravens... The only thing I’ll say about the Ravens. They are a challenge for 60 minutes. Your D has to change its mindset with Lamar floating all around the pocket. It’s is a gimmick offense that can hold the ball for 35-40 minutes and keep your offense off the field. I thought they had a horrible game plan against the Browns but seeing Lamar now 2 and half games helped the Browns defend him. The Niners will score on them but they will move the chains on your D.
Yep tickets bought endzone south end corner browns side. Thanks for the advice! We have some aholes too. Not too worried about it as I am with a few Niner fans. I was told the other endzone is Dawg Pound West - the Backers club in the Bay Area bought out the tickets.
I didn’t intentionally forget your dline. We will most certainly have our work cut out for us. Many of us have watched Nick Bosa at OSU- I believe you have the better Bosa and we will need to account for him at all times. The key could be our Oline buying some time forcing you guys to send Backers and singling up our targets on the outside. Outside of Sherman I’m not terribly familiar with the other names Verrett is off his 2nd or 3rd year end injury. Browns are deep and dangerous and if Landry clears and Higgins is back someone will get open in the group. Our Line has taken a lot of heat- some Browns fans want to replace the most of the unit others see most of the issues on play calls and Baker spending the first couple weeks hanging onto the ball or running out of clean pockets. They aren’t bad IMO and they played well last week.
Im harsh on our rebuilt secondary if Ward or Greedy can’t go and we protect the backups by playing off coverage - we are toast unless Myles and Co get to Jimmy often.
Playing a third prime time game in 5 weeks has to be a positive for a young team like the Browns- you could tell in the Jets game we were a little too amped up.
Now about those Ravens... The only thing I’ll say about the Ravens. They are a challenge for 60 minutes. Your D has to change its mindset with Lamar floating all around the pocket. It’s is a gimmick offense that can hold the ball for 35-40 minutes and keep your offense off the field. I thought they had a horrible game plan against the Browns but seeing Lamar now 2 and half games helped the Browns defend him. The Niners will score on them but they will move the chains on your D.
Ya...South endzone sun will be behind you for the most part. Might have it on yer left for a bit, but won't be in your eyes. I'll be on Niner side second deck looking down the south goal line, so not too far away.
Jimmy has been really good at getting the ball out quickly, so hopefully Garrett doesn't completely destroy them. My guess is the FB and TEs will chip quite a bit and you'll see a ton of play action which hopefully slows them down.
Steelers got a lot of pressure, but they blitzed like every other down.
I wouldn't count on the 49ers sending too many blitzes unless they see something specific. They haven't blitzed much all year. Instead they've gotten pressure with 4 and dropped 7.
I figured Bosa wasn't much of a mystery in the state of Ohio, but he's been better than advertised even if the sack numbers haven't shown it. Its pretty clear too that his ankle has gotten better and better from week to week and this week off has helped.
Man. Can't wait. Early bye weeks suck (with exception of getting injuries healed). LOL.
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While I know I've been shown data that it's not a factor, I still "fear" traveling to the PT zone from the ET zone...
Anyone know our departure date?
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Feels like we've had more primetime games this season than we've had combined since '99...
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Feels like we've had more primetime games this season than we've had combined since '99...
Feels like we've had more primetime games this season than we've had combined since '99...
No doubt the BROWNS came into this season as the media darlings and got the primetime games on the schedule.
They may have revived some of that interest with the win over the Ravens, a win on MNF will fan the fires again.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Yep tickets bought endzone south end corner browns side. Thanks for the advice! We have some aholes too. Not too worried about it as I am with a few Niner fans. I was told the other endzone is Dawg Pound West - the Backers club in the Bay Area bought out the tickets.
I didn’t intentionally forget your dline. We will most certainly have our work cut out for us. Many of us have watched Nick Bosa at OSU- I believe you have the better Bosa and we will need to account for him at all times. The key could be our Oline buying some time forcing you guys to send Backers and singling up our targets on the outside. Outside of Sherman I’m not terribly familiar with the other names Verrett is off his 2nd or 3rd year end injury. Browns are deep and dangerous and if Landry clears and Higgins is back someone will get open in the group. Our Line has taken a lot of heat- some Browns fans want to replace the most of the unit others see most of the issues on play calls and Baker spending the first couple weeks hanging onto the ball or running out of clean pockets. They aren’t bad IMO and they played well last week.
Im harsh on our rebuilt secondary if Ward or Greedy can’t go and we protect the backups by playing off coverage - we are toast unless Myles and Co get to Jimmy often.
Playing a third prime time game in 5 weeks has to be a positive for a young team like the Browns- you could tell in the Jets game we were a little too amped up.
Now about those Ravens... The only thing I’ll say about the Ravens. They are a challenge for 60 minutes. Your D has to change its mindset with Lamar floating all around the pocket. It’s is a gimmick offense that can hold the ball for 35-40 minutes and keep your offense off the field. I thought they had a horrible game plan against the Browns but seeing Lamar now 2 and half games helped the Browns defend him. The Niners will score on them but they will move the chains on your D.
Ya...South endzone sun will be behind you for the most part. Might have it on yer left for a bit, but won't be in your eyes. I'll be on Niner side second deck looking down the south goal line, so not too far away.
Jimmy has been really good at getting the ball out quickly, so hopefully Garrett doesn't completely destroy them. My guess is the FB and TEs will chip quite a bit and you'll see a ton of play action which hopefully slows them down.
Steelers got a lot of pressure, but they blitzed like every other down.
I wouldn't count on the 49ers sending too many blitzes unless they see something specific. They haven't blitzed much all year. Instead they've gotten pressure with 4 and dropped 7.
I figured Bosa wasn't much of a mystery in the state of Ohio, but he's been better than advertised even if the sack numbers haven't shown it. Its pretty clear too that his ankle has gotten better and better from week to week and this week off has helped.
Man. Can't wait. Early bye weeks suck (with exception of getting injuries healed). LOL.
Ya...South endzone sun will be behind you for the most part. Might have it on yer left for a bit, but won't be in your eyes. I'll be on Niner side second deck looking down the south goal line, so not too far away.
Jimmy has been really good at getting the ball out quickly, so hopefully Garrett doesn't completely destroy them. My guess is the FB and TEs will chip quite a bit and you'll see a ton of play action which hopefully slows them down.
Steelers got a lot of pressure, but they blitzed like every other down.
I wouldn't count on the 49ers sending too many blitzes unless they see something specific. They haven't blitzed much all year. Instead they've gotten pressure with 4 and dropped 7.
I figured Bosa wasn't much of a mystery in the state of Ohio, but he's been better than advertised even if the sack numbers haven't shown it. Its pretty clear too that his ankle has gotten better and better from week to week and this week off has helped.
Man. Can't wait. Early bye weeks suck (with exception of getting injuries healed). LOL.
Thinking about the matchups more our tackles struggle with speed rushers- Bosa is more of a power type rusher. But Bosa is so dang good with his hands he can be by a tackle so quickly. He was coached up well at OSU but the guy has some gifts that’s for sure. I think Dee Ford on Hubbard could be an issue for us. I think both Dlines have an advantage over the Oline units.
other matchups we have been historically bad against TEs but I think we are getting better.
i think our defensive keys will be stop the stretch play- I mentioned earlier we need Richardson and Obi collapsing hard to string out those Shanny runs and then we can confuse jimmy G in the back 7 hopefully we can drop backers and get the Niners in 2nd and 3rd and longs.
A plus for the Browns this is the third game now where we have run dominant team (Rams, Rats, Niners) that setup playaction and boots by establishing the run. Different run scheme from the Niners but it will help.
Truthfully we have the makings of a one score game.
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PFF ranks SF's D as their #3 "streaming Defense" this week...
3. San Francisco 49ers (25%) vs. Cleveland (-3.5)
Like with Tennessee, San Francisco is more than just a defense to stream this week — this could be an every-week starting defense moving forward, thanks in part due to a massively improved defensive line following the arrivals of Nick Bosa and Dee Ford. San Francisco’s defense ranks third-best in fantasy points per game and fourth-best in PFF grade, and is well rested coming off of the bye, while Cleveland ranks third-worst in fantasy points allowed (12.3). Even after a big Week 4, Cleveland still ranks fourth-worst in team passer rating, while San Francisco ranks third-best in passer rating allowed.
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PFF ranks SF's D as their #3 "streaming Defense" this week...
3. San Francisco 49ers (25%) vs. Cleveland (-3.5)
Like with Tennessee, San Francisco is more than just a defense to stream this week — this could be an every-week starting defense moving forward, thanks in part due to a massively improved defensive line following the arrivals of Nick Bosa and Dee Ford. San Francisco’s defense ranks third-best in fantasy points per game and fourth-best in PFF grade, and is well rested coming off of the bye, while Cleveland ranks third-worst in fantasy points allowed (12.3). Even after a big Week 4, Cleveland still ranks fourth-worst in team passer rating, while San Francisco ranks third-best in passer rating allowed.
PFF ranks SF's D as their #3 "streaming Defense" this week...
Three Niner games - Bucs figuring out their identity, Bengals are a mess and the Steelers breaking in a new QB and weapons. They did what they were supposed to do.
We are gonna run the ball on them and their Top corner is out. If we don’t get a pocket collapse in key situations (not even talking about their edge pressure) I like our matchups on the perimeter.
Truthfully, Personnel wise we’ve played three other teams with a better secondary. Arguably all the four teams the Jets were pretty feisty in week 2.
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PFF ranks SF's D as their #3 "streaming Defense" this week...
Three Niner games - Bucs figuring out their identity, Bengals are a mess and the Steelers breaking in a new QB and weapons. They did what they were supposed to do.
We are gonna run the ball on them and their Top corner is out. If we don’t get a pocket collapse in key situations (not even talking about their edge pressure) I like our matchups on the perimeter.
Truthfully, Personnel wise we’ve played three other teams with a better secondary. Arguably all the four teams the Jets were pretty feisty in week 2.
Personnel wise we’ve played three other teams with a better secondary.
No argument there, but up front that D is stout.
And on Offense they will pound the rock... capably.
Reminder 1: BLT put up a buck-seventy-three on the ground on us.
Reminder 2: Thru 3 weeks we were near the bottom of the league in depending PAPs... and that's JimmyG's forte'.
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Feels like we've had more primetime games this season than we've had combined since '99...
No doubt the BROWNS came into this season as the media darlings and got the primetime games on the schedule.
They may have revived some of that interest with the win over the Ravens, a win on MNF will fan the fires again.
No doubt the BROWNS came into this season as the media darlings and got the primetime games on the schedule.
They may have revived some of that interest with the win over the Ravens, a win on MNF will fan the fires again.
They were talking on the radio, that the Seattle game maybe pushed to 4:30 from 1:00 to be broadcast nationally.
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PFF ranks SF's D as their #3 "streaming Defense" this week...
Three Niner games - Bucs figuring out their identity, Bengals are a mess and the Steelers breaking in a new QB and weapons. They did what they were supposed to do.
We are gonna run the ball on them and their Top corner is out. If we don’t get a pocket collapse in key situations (not even talking about their edge pressure) I like our matchups on the perimeter.
Truthfully, Personnel wise we’ve played three other teams with a better secondary. Arguably all the four teams the Jets were pretty feisty in week 2.
Three Niner games - Bucs figuring out their identity, Bengals are a mess and the Steelers breaking in a new QB and weapons. They did what they were supposed to do.
We are gonna run the ball on them and their Top corner is out. If we don’t get a pocket collapse in key situations (not even talking about their edge pressure) I like our matchups on the perimeter.
Truthfully, Personnel wise we’ve played three other teams with a better secondary. Arguably all the four teams the Jets were pretty feisty in week 2.
I'm not so sure on running the ball, but I will say this...and this is what makes me nervous about the matchups.
Where the 49ers have a weakness (replacement LT and replacement CB) is where the Browns have significant strength. You've said pretty much the same thing.
Monday will be a test of those young players and the schemes of Shanahan and Saleh to protect those guys.
This is gonna be a fun game....as long as Skule doesn't get Garoppolo killed. LOL.
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Personnel wise we’ve played three other teams with a better secondary.
No argument there, but up front that D is stout.
And on Offense they will pound the rock... capably.
Reminder 1: BLT put up a buck-seventy-three on the ground on us.
Reminder 2: Thru 3 weeks we were near the bottom of the league in depending PAPs... and that's JimmyG's forte'.
No argument there, but up front that D is stout.
And on Offense they will pound the rock... capably.
Reminder 1: BLT put up a buck-seventy-three on the ground on us.
Reminder 2: Thru 3 weeks we were near the bottom of the league in depending PAPs... and that's JimmyG's forte'.
Yeah, strength of 49ers D is undoubtedly front 7. Buckner, Bosa, Ford, Armstead and Alexander and Warner playing behind them...all at a very high level. I dont know if this will have a huge effect, but there will be times they will be rushing Armstead and Buckner up the middle, and both of those guys are 6'7". Probably not an issue on long drops, but might on short ones. Rookie Dre Greenlaw has played well as well, but honestly Nickel Back K'Waun Williams plays alot more...and yeah, I know you guys probably know that name.
He's been pretty damn good in SF and had an INT last week.
Also something to be aware of, the D-Line isn't just those 4 guys. They've got a really good rotation. Solomon Thomas hasn't been great as a pass rusher, but he's an excellent run defender and plays inside and out. Ronald Blair has been really good as rotational DE. A name to keep an eye on tho? DJ Jones. He'll play quite a bit. Armstead and Buckner are tall, lean DTs (and Armstead will play DE as well). Jones is a space clogger. If the Browns try to go run heavy, DJ will be out there a lot. It won't show in the stats, but he's played well.
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Personnel wise we’ve played three other teams with a better secondary.
No argument there, but up front that D is stout.
And on Offense they will pound the rock... capably.
Reminder 1: BLT put up a buck-seventy-three on the ground on us.
Reminder 2: Thru 3 weeks we were near the bottom of the league in depending PAPs... and that's JimmyG's forte'.
No argument there, but up front that D is stout.
And on Offense they will pound the rock... capably.
Reminder 1: BLT put up a buck-seventy-three on the ground on us.
Reminder 2: Thru 3 weeks we were near the bottom of the league in depending PAPs... and that's JimmyG's forte'.
And Lamar had how many of those? He’s a bottom 5 “thrower” probably a Top 5 running back yes running back in the league
The Niners attack and style more in tact with what the Rams do.
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No argument there, but up front that D is stout.
And on Offense they will pound the rock... capably.
Reminder 1: BLT put up a buck-seventy-three on the ground on us.
Reminder 2: Thru 3 weeks we were near the bottom of the league in depending PAPs... and that's JimmyG's forte'.
And Lamar had how many of those? He’s a bottom 5 “thrower” probably a Top 5 running back yes running back in the league
The Niners attack and style more in tact with what the Rams do.
And Lamar had how many of those? He’s a bottom 5 “thrower” probably a Top 5 running back yes running back in the league
The Niners attack and style more in tact with what the Rams do.
Yes, tho the Niners rank 2nd in rushing and the Rams rank 22nd.
Certainly, a lot of that is situational, but Niner run game has been far more effective this year than LAs. I like McVay and I can't pretend I'm not biased, but I think Shanahan is BY FAR the better playcaller of the two.
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No argument there, but up front that D is stout.
And on Offense they will pound the rock... capably.
Reminder 1: BLT put up a buck-seventy-three on the ground on us.
Reminder 2: Thru 3 weeks we were near the bottom of the league in depending PAPs... and that's JimmyG's forte'.
Yeah, strength of 49ers D is undoubtedly front 7. Buckner, Bosa, Ford, Armstead and Alexander and Warner playing behind them...all at a very high level. I dont know if this will have a huge effect, but there will be times they will be rushing Armstead and Buckner up the middle, and both of those guys are 6'7". Probably not an issue on long drops, but might on short ones. Rookie Dre Greenlaw has played well as well, but honestly Nickel Back K'Waun Williams plays alot more...and yeah, I know you guys probably know that name.
He's been pretty damn good in SF and had an INT last week.
Also something to be aware of, the D-Line isn't just those 4 guys. They've got a really good rotation. Solomon Thomas hasn't been great as a pass rusher, but he's an excellent run defender and plays inside and out. Ronald Blair has been really good as rotational DE. A name to keep an eye on tho? DJ Jones. He'll play quite a bit. Armstead and Buckner are tall, lean DTs (and Armstead will play DE as well). Jones is a space clogger. If the Browns try to go run heavy, DJ will be out there a lot. It won't show in the stats, but he's played well.
Also something to be aware of, the D-Line isn't just those 4 guys. They've got a really good rotation.
You should... you've been collecting 1st-round DLs for years now... 4 of the last 5 IIRC...
Damn near approached Matt Millan's fetish for WRs...
You're going to see a lot of 2 TE sets from us... no way we are letting our OTs face Bosa and Ford without a heavy dose of chipping
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Also something to be aware of, the D-Line isn't just those 4 guys. They've got a really good rotation.
You should... you've been collecting 1st-round DLs for years now... 4 of the last 5 IIRC...
Damn near approached Matt Millan's fetish for WRs...
You're going to see a lot of 2 TE sets from us... no way we are letting our OTs face Bosa and Ford without a heavy dose of chipping
You should... you've been collecting 1st-round DLs for years now... 4 of the last 5 IIRC...
Damn near approached Matt Millan's fetish for WRs...
You're going to see a lot of 2 TE sets from us... no way we are letting our OTs face Bosa and Ford without a heavy dose of chipping
If that's the case, you'll likely see a lot of Dre Greenlaw, LB #57. Rookie Backer, has played well, but has been susceptible to play action.
LOL RE Millen.
Yeah...difference is all but one of them is playing really well (Solomon Thomas being the exception).
Millen does get grief for that....but he did draft Megatron.
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Three Niner games - Bucs figuring out their identity, Bengals are a mess and the Steelers breaking in a new QB and weapons. They did what they were supposed to do.
We are gonna run the ball on them and their Top corner is out. If we don’t get a pocket collapse in key situations (not even talking about their edge pressure) I like our matchups on the perimeter.
Truthfully, Personnel wise we’ve played three other teams with a better secondary. Arguably all the four teams the Jets were pretty feisty in week 2.
I'm not so sure on running the ball, but I will say this...and this is what makes me nervous about the matchups.
Where the 49ers have a weakness (replacement LT and replacement CB) is where the Browns have significant strength. You've said pretty much the same thing.
Monday will be a test of those young players and the schemes of Shanahan and Saleh to protect those guys.
This is gonna be a fun game....as long as Skule doesn't get Garoppolo killed. LOL.
I'm not so sure on running the ball, but I will say this...and this is what makes me nervous about the matchups.
Where the 49ers have a weakness (replacement LT and replacement CB) is where the Browns have significant strength. You've said pretty much the same thing.
Monday will be a test of those young players and the schemes of Shanahan and Saleh to protect those guys.
This is gonna be a fun game....as long as Skule doesn't get Garoppolo killed. LOL.
I think the Browns will go big at times and run right at Dee Ford and I expect the Browns to get the young pup Bosa thinking early use his first step against him and drop screens over him. That’s what I expect. He had tremendous ability but he’s played 4 games in 2 years and he’s still learning but you guys have a cornerstone for years.
On the other side the Browns will need to stop the run. It’s the same approach they needed to take against the Rams and Ravens. The zone blocking scheme is different. On a positive note we arent trying to swat a fly this week and trying to corral a guy like Jackson on the downside it takes just as much discipline stringing the run out and it really takes the DTs slamming in and getting penetration on the snap- we have three guys that have shown the ability to the that. On a side note Our D coordinator saw you guys twice last year when he was with the Cards I trust he knows what it takes.
Call me homer but i think this is actually a good matchup for the Browns.
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I'm not so sure on running the ball, but I will say this...and this is what makes me nervous about the matchups.
Where the 49ers have a weakness (replacement LT and replacement CB) is where the Browns have significant strength. You've said pretty much the same thing.
Monday will be a test of those young players and the schemes of Shanahan and Saleh to protect those guys.
This is gonna be a fun game....as long as Skule doesn't get Garoppolo killed. LOL.
I think the Browns will go big at times and run right at Dee Ford and I expect the Browns to get the young pup Bosa thinking early use his first step against him and drop screens over him. That’s what I expect. He had tremendous ability but he’s played 4 games in 2 years and he’s still learning but you guys have a cornerstone for years.
On the other side the Browns will need to stop the run. It’s the same approach they needed to take against the Rams and Ravens. The zone blocking scheme is different. On a positive note we arent trying to swat a fly this week and trying to corral a guy like Jackson on the downside it takes just as much discipline stringing the run out and it really takes the DTs slamming in and getting penetration on the snap- we have three guys that have shown the ability to the that. On a side note Our D coordinator saw you guys twice last year when he was with the Cards I trust he knows what it takes.
Call me homer but i think this is actually a good matchup for the Browns.
Call me homer but i think this is actually a good matchup for the Browns.
SF has played the Bengals, the Steelers and the Bucs.... After watching that MNF game last night I can’t take any of there numbers seriously...(just like the Ravens numbers...)
if the Browns play like they did against the Ravens, get all their players back from last week and pick up a defender or two off the injury list...
I’m feeling good about this one too.
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Call me homer but i think this is actually a good matchup for the Browns.
SF has played the Bengals, the Steelers and the Bucs.... After watching that MNF game last night I can’t take any of there numbers seriously...(just like the Ravens numbers...)
if the Browns play like they did against the Ravens, get all their players back from last week and pick up a defender or two off the injury list...
I’m feeling good about this one too.
SF has played the Bengals, the Steelers and the Bucs.... After watching that MNF game last night I can’t take any of there numbers seriously...(just like the Ravens numbers...)
if the Browns play like they did against the Ravens, get all their players back from last week and pick up a defender or two off the injury list...
I’m feeling good about this one too.
Ward, Landry, Higgins, Greedy, Richardson
These are 5 huge injuries.
if you put a gun to my head losing Landry probably worst player to lose out of the group.
Richardson is important we need him against the zone scheme this an ideal scheme for his talents.
Ward or Greedy are huge in this game although. The Niners are a controlled passing team we absolutely need to challenge the underneath stuff and we haven’t the last two weeks.
higgins is Mayfields security blanket.
im honestly torn but I’ll still with Landry. And I settle with 2 of the 5 hopefully.
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I'm not so sure on running the ball, but I will say this...and this is what makes me nervous about the matchups.
Where the 49ers have a weakness (replacement LT and replacement CB) is where the Browns have significant strength. You've said pretty much the same thing.
Monday will be a test of those young players and the schemes of Shanahan and Saleh to protect those guys.
This is gonna be a fun game....as long as Skule doesn't get Garoppolo killed. LOL.
I think the Browns will go big at times and run right at Dee Ford and I expect the Browns to get the young pup Bosa thinking early use his first step against him and drop screens over him. That’s what I expect. He had tremendous ability but he’s played 4 games in 2 years and he’s still learning but you guys have a cornerstone for years.
On the other side the Browns will need to stop the run. It’s the same approach they needed to take against the Rams and Ravens. The zone blocking scheme is different. On a positive note we arent trying to swat a fly this week and trying to corral a guy like Jackson on the downside it takes just as much discipline stringing the run out and it really takes the DTs slamming in and getting penetration on the snap- we have three guys that have shown the ability to the that. On a side note Our D coordinator saw you guys twice last year when he was with the Cards I trust he knows what it takes.
Call me homer but i think this is actually a good matchup for the Browns.
I think the Browns will go big at times and run right at Dee Ford and I expect the Browns to get the young pup Bosa thinking early use his first step against him and drop screens over him. That’s what I expect. He had tremendous ability but he’s played 4 games in 2 years and he’s still learning but you guys have a cornerstone for years.
On the other side the Browns will need to stop the run. It’s the same approach they needed to take against the Rams and Ravens. The zone blocking scheme is different. On a positive note we arent trying to swat a fly this week and trying to corral a guy like Jackson on the downside it takes just as much discipline stringing the run out and it really takes the DTs slamming in and getting penetration on the snap- we have three guys that have shown the ability to the that. On a side note Our D coordinator saw you guys twice last year when he was with the Cards I trust he knows what it takes.
Call me homer but i think this is actually a good matchup for the Browns.
Well, embarrassingly, the Cards won BOTH games against SF last year. Matt Breida was hurt during the game so only got 8 carries (Alfred Morris carried 18 times), but Breida averaged 7 yards per carry in that game. In the second meeting Breida was PLAYING hurt and averaged 2.6 yards per carry.
You can really look at those two numbers and essentially make anything you want out of them. LOL.
Those were both CJ Beathard games (third QB, not by a small margin) and the Cards never faced Garoppolo in SF (they faced him once with the Pats).
Naw...its not homer of you. I can see what you see. I see if differently of course and that can just as easily be called homeristic.
For me, its about one stat. Its a team stat which is difficult but there really isn't any getting around it because its so glaring.
49ers Record with Beathard at QB: 1-9
49ers Record with Mullins at QB: 3-5
49ers record with Garoppolo at QB: 9-2. (Only losses to Minn at Minn and KC at KC...and that's the game where he tore the ACL. He's never lost at Levi's)
This is a different team with Jimmy behind center and they win games I don't think they have any business winning.
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