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  • @hoorta said:

    ??? If you looked at the link in my original post, no Bungles affiliate currently available in Massillon. It happens. Dayton sadly got dropped from the Browns network last year, but another station is broadcasting the games now.  According to the Bengals website, the closest broadcast cities to the Akron-Canton area are in Mount Vernon and Marion. 

    OK, I know that they USED to have their games  aired on  WTIG in Massillon.   Not now though?  I wonder why?  Well, actually, I suspect I know why....the Bengals sucked and they got no ratings for their games. 

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, I know that they USED to have their games  aired on  WTIG in Massillon.   Not now though?  I wonder why?  Well, actually, I suspect I know why....the Bengals sucked and they got no ratings for their games. 

    Same reason WHIO in Dayton dropped the Browns after 1-15 and 0-16. Advertisers weren't willing to pay money for time on a broadcast if almost no one was listening.....  

    And I find it unbelievable after 10+ years we have a radio station in Dayton that still broadcasts every Dayton Dragons low Class A baseball games. You probably know I'm no great fan of baseball in general, but who in their right mind wants to listen to some virtually meaningless minor leage ball? 

  • @the-gipper said:

    No one is counting them out. We’re just saying that the Browns have more talent in more places and should win this division. Everyone knows that. 

    No, everyone doesn't know that because it isn't true. Lol

    @vagitron said:

    No, everyone doesn't know that because it isn't true. Lol

    Except, of course, it is true.   ONLY YOU do not believe it.  

  • @the-gipper said:

    OK, I know that they USED to have their games  aired on  WTIG in Massillon.   Not now though?  I wonder why?  Well, actually, I suspect I know why....the Bengals sucked and they got no ratings for their games. 

    Same reason WHIO in Dayton dropped the Browns after 1-15 and 0-16. Advertisers weren't willing to pay money for time on a broadcast if almost no one was listening.....  

    And I find it unbelievable after 10+ years we have a radio station in Dayton that still broadcasts every Dayton Dragons low Class A baseball games. You probably know I'm no great fan of baseball in general, but who in their right mind wants to listen to some virtually meaningless minor leage ball? 

    @hoorta said:

    Same reason WHIO in Dayton dropped the Browns after 1-15 and 0-16. Advertisers weren't willing to pay money for time on a broadcast if almost no one was listening.....  

    And I find it unbelievable after 10+ years we have a radio station in Dayton that still broadcasts every Dayton Dragons low Class A baseball games. You probably know I'm no great fan of baseball in general, but who in their right mind wants to listen to some virtually meaningless minor leage ball? 

    Since 1999 and particularly in the past few years the BROWNS lost a lot of followers and sponsors -but- that might turn around if they continue on this current hot streak.

  • @medicineman said:

    Blah Blah blah blah and blah. I listen to ESPN Pittsburgh and I hear the shit you Faggot fans call in and say. Just because you don't know any does not mean they don't exist. I am guessing you don't know very many because why else would you be on another team message board? But listen to Steeler fans go nuts after 1 game and celebrate is as bout as dumb as Browns fans thinking the problems are fixed after 1 game. You play the Ratbirds next week, as we play San Fran Sicko take the shit 1 game at a time. 

    Espn Pittsburgh fucking sucks, just like all espn radio. I do take it one game at a time, I also don't get my steeler news from the mainstream. I'm on this board because I went to college in ohio, all my college friends are diehard Browns fans so I joined this board for more info and improved shit talking. Don't like it? Too fucking bad. They can ban me if they want. 

    @vagitron said:

    Espn Pittsburgh fucking sucks, just like all espn radio. I do take it one game at a time, I also don't get my steeler news from the mainstream. I'm on this board because I went to college in ohio, all my college friends are diehard Browns fans so I joined this board for more info and improved shit talking. Don't like it? Too fucking bad. They can ban me if they want. 

    So, you get your steeler news from like underground radio....some guy wearing a tinfoil hat?  Maybe that explains why you are so out of touch with reality.

    And who says anything about banning you?  You are here to satisfy our sadist urges.  Why would we want to let go of our favorite punching bag?

  • @steelersfan412 said:

    I don't think mortgaging the future is necessary. A top LT would be nice, but a decent one would suffice for now. One extra second of protection could make all the difference in the world.

    The Fitzpatrick deal was made under the assumption that the offense would be secure, and that the defense needed to get back to their former glory. Neither of which happened. So probably a bad deal even if the Steelers do make the playoffs.

    Ben is getting old, tired, and really no longer has his heart in the game. He has taken more abuse in his career than most would take in two. Even if he does come back next year, his heart wont be in the game. I don't think we'll ever see the same Ben again. It is what it is. That first in 2020 would have been really nice for a prime QB, don't you think?

    Fitzpatrick is 22, a former 11th overall draft pick and a tremendous leader. He's also been very good in his first two games. They were never going to draft a qb and left tackles worth first round picks are coming off the board in the first three picks. The Steelers aren't drafting that high. Your Ben comment is also fucking ridiculous. Lol

    @vagitron said:

    Fitzpatrick is 22, a former 11th overall draft pick and a tremendous leader. He's also been very good in his first two games. They were never going to draft a qb and left tackles worth first round picks are coming off the board in the first three picks. The Steelers aren't drafting that high. Your Ben comment is also fucking ridiculous. Lol

    I think Vag is right here....about Fitzpatrick.    Getting Minkah for what you gave up was a good deal. And he is young and should be good going into the future.  But, I think the other guy may be right about BR.  His days are behind him and the Steelers should do what the Giants did with Eli......let him out to pasture. I would be surprised if he came back as his old self next year.  Yinzers went young with Minkah....stay young with Maya.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    You seem like you're being a bit of a homer which is no surprise. Ben has already dropped numerous hints that he's thinking about retirement before missing this entire season to injury. I think, at best, he'll try to make one more run before calling it a day. 

    This has been addressed ad nauseam for over a year. Ben talked retirement in an effort to force Todd Haley out. It worked, Todd is gone. If Ben wanted to retire why in the hell did he sign the extension that he did? Why did he opt to not have Tommy John? Why didn't he just retire when he went out for the whole season? He went a different route surgery wise so he could be back for the whole season next year. Tommy John would have put him out into next season.

    Ben isn't going anywhere and even if he did Rudolph at minimum will be a stop gap but I think he becomes the next one when that time comes.

    @vagitron said:

    This has been addressed ad nauseam for over a year. Ben talked retirement in an effort to force Todd Haley out. It worked, Todd is gone. If Ben wanted to retire why in the hell did he sign the extension that he did? Why did he opt to not have Tommy John? Why didn't he just retire when he went out for the whole season? He went a different route surgery wise so he could be back for the whole season next year. Tommy John would have put him out into next season.

    Ben isn't going anywhere and even if he did Rudolph at minimum will be a stop gap but I think he becomes the next one when that time comes.

    Well...BR is not stupid.  He knows that if he retires he does not get paid.  Sure, he signed an extension for a lot of money. He wants that money.  No one blames him for that.   And FYI....it may be possible that his injured elbow is not back well enough to play next year....or he may even be more susceptible to a continuing injury situation...and he would miss all or most of next year anyway. Remains to be seen. He would be 38 next year, and with frayed elbow ligaments.   Questionable chances....not impossible, but perhaps not probable.  But hang in there for the cash.

  • @the-gipper said:

    OK, I know that they USED to have their games  aired on  WTIG in Massillon.   Not now though?  I wonder why?  Well, actually, I suspect I know why....the Bengals sucked and they got no ratings for their games. 

    Same reason WHIO in Dayton dropped the Browns after 1-15 and 0-16. Advertisers weren't willing to pay money for time on a broadcast if almost no one was listening.....  

    And I find it unbelievable after 10+ years we have a radio station in Dayton that still broadcasts every Dayton Dragons low Class A baseball games. You probably know I'm no great fan of baseball in general, but who in their right mind wants to listen to some virtually meaningless minor leage ball? 

    @hoorta said:

    Same reason WHIO in Dayton dropped the Browns after 1-15 and 0-16. Advertisers weren't willing to pay money for time on a broadcast if almost no one was listening.....  

    And I find it unbelievable after 10+ years we have a radio station in Dayton that still broadcasts every Dayton Dragons low Class A baseball games. You probably know I'm no great fan of baseball in general, but who in their right mind wants to listen to some virtually meaningless minor leage ball? 

    People from Dayton who like their home town team.  We have the Akron Aeros....errr Rubber Ducks broadcast here. (but then they are the Indians AA affiliate.  Who are the Dayton team affiliated with? 

  • @vagitron said:

    Fitzpatrick is 22, a former 11th overall draft pick and a tremendous leader. He's also been very good in his first two games. They were never going to draft a qb and left tackles worth first round picks are coming off the board in the first three picks. The Steelers aren't drafting that high. Your Ben comment is also fucking ridiculous. Lol

    I think Vag is right here....about Fitzpatrick.    Getting Minkah for what you gave up was a good deal. And he is young and should be good going into the future.  But, I think the other guy may be right about BR.  His days are behind him and the Steelers should do what the Giants did with Eli......let him out to pasture. I would be surprised if he came back as his old self next year.  Yinzers went young with Minkah....stay young with Maya.

    @the-gipper said:

    I think Vag is right here....about Fitzpatrick.    Getting Minkah for what you gave up was a good deal. And he is young and should be good going into the future.  But, I think the other guy may be right about BR.  His days are behind him and the Steelers should do what the Giants did with Eli......let him out to pasture. I would be surprised if he came back as his old self next year.  Yinzers went young with Minkah....stay young with Maya.

    Gip, I've never said getting Minka for a first round pick wasn't a good move. For this season, and a big help in the defensive secondary for years to come. Vag must think he's going to be the magic piece that will put  the Steelers in the playoffs this year. I tend to disagree.  

    OTOH- As I did say the Steelers are going to be a stand pat team in 2020, thank you very much. Checking their 2020 draft selections. No first rounder, have their own second, and get this- Vag is thinking Pittsburgh- missing their third round pick, is going to get a comp third back for losing Le'veon Bell. Not so fast my friend- it's complicated, but because a (recently cut) player on another team is part of the way those picks get handed out- they just might lose it.  🙂  Oh, they have two picks in both the 4th and 5th rounds. Vag is dreaming they're going to pull another Antonio Brown or two out of those selections, but I wouldn't count on it. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Same reason WHIO in Dayton dropped the Browns after 1-15 and 0-16. Advertisers weren't willing to pay money for time on a broadcast if almost no one was listening.....  

    And I find it unbelievable after 10+ years we have a radio station in Dayton that still broadcasts every Dayton Dragons low Class A baseball games. You probably know I'm no great fan of baseball in general, but who in their right mind wants to listen to some virtually meaningless minor leage ball? 

    People from Dayton who like their home town team.  We have the Akron Aeros....errr Rubber Ducks broadcast here. (but then they are the Indians AA affiliate.  Who are the Dayton team affiliated with? 

    @the-gipper said:

    People from Dayton who like their home town team.  We have the Akron Aeros....errr Rubber Ducks broadcast here. (but then they are the Indians AA affiliate.  Who are the Dayton team affiliated with? 

    Them thar Cincitucky Redlegs... 🙂   Oh, they do have several former Dragons of note who made it to the majors.....   

    Austin Kearns (2000), Adam Dunn (2000), Wily Mo Peña (2001), Edwin Encarnación (2001–02), Joey Votto (2003–04)

  • @the-gipper said:

    People from Dayton who like their home town team.  We have the Akron Aeros....errr Rubber Ducks broadcast here. (but then they are the Indians AA affiliate.  Who are the Dayton team affiliated with? 

    Them thar Cincitucky Redlegs... 🙂   Oh, they do have several former Dragons of note who made it to the majors.....   

    Austin Kearns (2000), Adam Dunn (2000), Wily Mo Peña (2001), Edwin Encarnación (2001–02), Joey Votto (2003–04)

    @hoorta said:

    Them thar Cincitucky Redlegs... 🙂   Oh, they do have several former Dragons of note who made it to the majors.....   

    Austin Kearns (2000), Adam Dunn (2000), Wily Mo Peña (2001), Edwin Encarnación (2001–02), Joey Votto (2003–04)

    Well....they are entitled to have their games aired. And like with the Akron teams, fans of the big league team have some interest in prospects of the team. 

  • @medicineman said:

    Blah Blah blah blah and blah. I listen to ESPN Pittsburgh and I hear the shit you Faggot fans call in and say. Just because you don't know any does not mean they don't exist. I am guessing you don't know very many because why else would you be on another team message board? But listen to Steeler fans go nuts after 1 game and celebrate is as bout as dumb as Browns fans thinking the problems are fixed after 1 game. You play the Ratbirds next week, as we play San Fran Sicko take the shit 1 game at a time. 

    Espn Pittsburgh fucking sucks, just like all espn radio. I do take it one game at a time, I also don't get my steeler news from the mainstream. I'm on this board because I went to college in ohio, all my college friends are diehard Browns fans so I joined this board for more info and improved shit talking. Don't like it? Too fucking bad. They can ban me if they want. 

    @vagitron said:

    I'm on this board because I went to college in ohio, all my college friends are diehard Browns fans so I joined this board for more info and improved shit talking.

    C'mon...

    We all know Gipper and you are lovers...

  • @the-gipper said:

    I think Vag is right here....about Fitzpatrick.    Getting Minkah for what you gave up was a good deal. And he is young and should be good going into the future.  But, I think the other guy may be right about BR.  His days are behind him and the Steelers should do what the Giants did with Eli......let him out to pasture. I would be surprised if he came back as his old self next year.  Yinzers went young with Minkah....stay young with Maya.

    Gip, I've never said getting Minka for a first round pick wasn't a good move. For this season, and a big help in the defensive secondary for years to come. Vag must think he's going to be the magic piece that will put  the Steelers in the playoffs this year. I tend to disagree.  

    OTOH- As I did say the Steelers are going to be a stand pat team in 2020, thank you very much. Checking their 2020 draft selections. No first rounder, have their own second, and get this- Vag is thinking Pittsburgh- missing their third round pick, is going to get a comp third back for losing Le'veon Bell. Not so fast my friend- it's complicated, but because a (recently cut) player on another team is part of the way those picks get handed out- they just might lose it.  🙂  Oh, they have two picks in both the 4th and 5th rounds. Vag is dreaming they're going to pull another Antonio Brown or two out of those selections, but I wouldn't count on it. 

    @hoorta said:

    Not so fast my friend- it's complicated, but because a (recently cut) player on another team is part of the way those picks get handed out- they just might lose it.  🙂  

    funny thing about that...that player is LJ Fort XD 

    since he was cut, his salary (5.1m iirc) is no longer included in the comp pick calc because he was cut prior to week 10.  previous, they lost 3 signed 2.  since Fort no longer counts, it 2 lost 2 signed.  no comp pick.  however, all they have to do is cut moncrief before week 10 to restore the 3rd round comp pick.

  • @vagitron said:

    I'm on this board because I went to college in ohio, all my college friends are diehard Browns fans so I joined this board for more info and improved shit talking.

    C'mon...

    We all know Gipper and you are lovers...

    @tour2ma said:

    C'mon...

    We all know Gipper and you are lovers...

    No, he really prefers sucking dick if a person is wearing a #7 Steeler jersey.....and I cannot abide that.

  • Man.... Bengals defense looks bad... 

    Even at that Rudolph has to check down to the RB every pass. 

    Hope Wilks lets the blitz run loose on both these teams. 

    @hx214 said:

    Man.... Bengals defense looks bad... 

    Even at that Rudolph has to check down to the RB every pass. 

    Hope Wilks lets the blitz run loose on both these teams. 

    Just cinci being cinci?      http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/story.cfm/story/1983897

    0-4 Bengals look awfully familiar in Pittsburgh drubbing

    October 1, 2019
    By The Associated Press

     

    CINCINNATI (AP) Well, that was awfully familiar.

       
     

    The Bengals went to Pittsburgh and got manhandled Monday night, a sight that had fans recalling all those bad moments in their lopsided Ohio River rivalry. Andy Dalton got sacked a career-high eight times - he barely had time to retreat from center on some plays - and the defense couldn't stop a pared-down passing game in Pittsburgh's 27-3 victory.

    For the 0-4 Bengals, it's bad enough that September has come and gone without a win. The way they lost their latest one, however, eliminated any thoughts of an about-face under first year coach Zac Taylor.

    ''It was just awful overall,'' receiver Tyler Boyd said.

    And in the worst possible setting - a prime-time stage.

    The Bengals fell to 6-16 in prime-time games since 2011, when Dalton was a rookie, including 2-6 on Monday night. They've now lost nine in a row and 12 of 13 against the Steelers, including that 18-16 playoff meltdown at Paul Brown Stadium that ended their 2015 season - their last one with a winning record.

    The sight of Dalton getting swamped in the backfield was reminiscent of David Klingler getting sacked 10 times by the Steelers in 1992. Dalton was 21 of 37 for 171 yards with an interception in the end zone , a fumble on a sack, and 69 yards lost on those eight sacks. For perspective, the Bengals rushed for only 73 yards.

    ''We've got to figure out who we are,'' Dalton said............. CONTINUED IN LINK...........

  • @medicineman said:

    Blah Blah blah blah and blah. I listen to ESPN Pittsburgh and I hear the shit you Faggot fans call in and say. Just because you don't know any does not mean they don't exist. I am guessing you don't know very many because why else would you be on another team message board? But listen to Steeler fans go nuts after 1 game and celebrate is as bout as dumb as Browns fans thinking the problems are fixed after 1 game. You play the Ratbirds next week, as we play San Fran Sicko take the shit 1 game at a time. 

    Espn Pittsburgh fucking sucks, just like all espn radio. I do take it one game at a time, I also don't get my steeler news from the mainstream. I'm on this board because I went to college in ohio, all my college friends are diehard Browns fans so I joined this board for more info and improved shit talking. Don't like it? Too fucking bad. They can ban me if they want. 

    @vagitron said:

    Espn Pittsburgh fucking sucks, just like all espn radio. I do take it one game at a time, I also don't get my steeler news from the mainstream. I'm on this board because I went to college in ohio, all my college friends are diehard Browns fans so I joined this board for more info and improved shit talking. Don't like it? Too fucking bad. They can ban me if they want. 

    I am over 40, I don't like anything or mostly  anyone. 

  • I do think  the Bengals will win a few games this season,  they have decent wr core and Dalton used to play a lot better, I do hate them but they are a better team then they played Monday night where they could not get nothing going. 

  • @vagitron said:

    Espn Pittsburgh fucking sucks, just like all espn radio. I do take it one game at a time, I also don't get my steeler news from the mainstream. I'm on this board because I went to college in ohio, all my college friends are diehard Browns fans so I joined this board for more info and improved shit talking. Don't like it? Too fucking bad. They can ban me if they want. 

    So, you get your steeler news from like underground radio....some guy wearing a tinfoil hat?  Maybe that explains why you are so out of touch with reality.

    And who says anything about banning you?  You are here to satisfy our sadist urges.  Why would we want to let go of our favorite punching bag?

    @the-gipper said:

    So, you get your steeler news from like underground radio....some guy wearing a tinfoil hat?  Maybe that explains why you are so out of touch with reality.

    And who says anything about banning you?  You are here to satisfy our sadist urges.  Why would we want to let go of our favorite punching bag?

    Gipper you don’t punch anything, ever. You say something fucking stupid and the other resident mongos come out of the wood work and give you thumbs up. I follow scouts, specific writers and use reddit. I listen to zero mainstream radio. 

  • @vagitron said:

    I'm on this board because I went to college in ohio, all my college friends are diehard Browns fans so I joined this board for more info and improved shit talking.

    C'mon...

    We all know Gipper and you are lovers...

    @tour2ma said:

    C'mon...

    We all know Gipper and you are lovers...

    Old white beard wishes. He rides my dick like a Russian hooker chasing United States citizenship. If it weren’t for me his post count would be half. I think 80% of his posts have been when he’s trying to trash talk me or when his dementia flares up and he forgets where he is. Poor Gipper.

    oh let’s not forget his trivia threads 8 people read. You suck gipshit. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    I think Vag is right here....about Fitzpatrick.    Getting Minkah for what you gave up was a good deal. And he is young and should be good going into the future.  But, I think the other guy may be right about BR.  His days are behind him and the Steelers should do what the Giants did with Eli......let him out to pasture. I would be surprised if he came back as his old self next year.  Yinzers went young with Minkah....stay young with Maya.

    Gip, I've never said getting Minka for a first round pick wasn't a good move. For this season, and a big help in the defensive secondary for years to come. Vag must think he's going to be the magic piece that will put  the Steelers in the playoffs this year. I tend to disagree.  

    OTOH- As I did say the Steelers are going to be a stand pat team in 2020, thank you very much. Checking their 2020 draft selections. No first rounder, have their own second, and get this- Vag is thinking Pittsburgh- missing their third round pick, is going to get a comp third back for losing Le'veon Bell. Not so fast my friend- it's complicated, but because a (recently cut) player on another team is part of the way those picks get handed out- they just might lose it.  🙂  Oh, they have two picks in both the 4th and 5th rounds. Vag is dreaming they're going to pull another Antonio Brown or two out of those selections, but I wouldn't count on it. 

    @hoorta said:

    Gip, I've never said getting Minka for a first round pick wasn't a good move. For this season, and a big help in the defensive secondary for years to come. Vag must think he's going to be the magic piece that will put  the Steelers in the playoffs this year. I tend to disagree.  

    OTOH- As I did say the Steelers are going to be a stand pat team in 2020, thank you very much. Checking their 2020 draft selections. No first rounder, have their own second, and get this- Vag is thinking Pittsburgh- missing their third round pick, is going to get a comp third back for losing Le'veon Bell. Not so fast my friend- it's complicated, but because a (recently cut) player on another team is part of the way those picks get handed out- they just might lose it.  🙂  Oh, they have two picks in both the 4th and 5th rounds. Vag is dreaming they're going to pull another Antonio Brown or two out of those selections, but I wouldn't count on it. 

    They already hit on another wr, see diontae Johnson and Washington just needs more targets. 

  • @vagitron said:

    This has been addressed ad nauseam for over a year. Ben talked retirement in an effort to force Todd Haley out. It worked, Todd is gone. If Ben wanted to retire why in the hell did he sign the extension that he did? Why did he opt to not have Tommy John? Why didn't he just retire when he went out for the whole season? He went a different route surgery wise so he could be back for the whole season next year. Tommy John would have put him out into next season.

    Ben isn't going anywhere and even if he did Rudolph at minimum will be a stop gap but I think he becomes the next one when that time comes.

    Well...BR is not stupid.  He knows that if he retires he does not get paid.  Sure, he signed an extension for a lot of money. He wants that money.  No one blames him for that.   And FYI....it may be possible that his injured elbow is not back well enough to play next year....or he may even be more susceptible to a continuing injury situation...and he would miss all or most of next year anyway. Remains to be seen. He would be 38 next year, and with frayed elbow ligaments.   Questionable chances....not impossible, but perhaps not probable.  But hang in there for the cash.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...BR is not stupid.  He knows that if he retires he does not get paid.  Sure, he signed an extension for a lot of money. He wants that money.  No one blames him for that.   And FYI....it may be possible that his injured elbow is not back well enough to play next year....or he may even be more susceptible to a continuing injury situation...and he would miss all or most of next year anyway. Remains to be seen. He would be 38 next year, and with frayed elbow ligaments.   Questionable chances....not impossible, but perhaps not probable.  But hang in there for the cash.

    The Steelers aren’t a charity and Ben isn’t hurting for money. If he can’t play he will retire. They traded for Fitzpatrick because they believe in Rudolph. You are never right about anything, literally. You aren’t going to start being right now.