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  • @the-gipper said:

    I think Vag is right here....about Fitzpatrick.    Getting Minkah for what you gave up was a good deal. And he is young and should be good going into the future.  But, I think the other guy may be right about BR.  His days are behind him and the Steelers should do what the Giants did with Eli......let him out to pasture. I would be surprised if he came back as his old self next year.  Yinzers went young with Minkah....stay young with Maya.

    Gip, I've never said getting Minka for a first round pick wasn't a good move. For this season, and a big help in the defensive secondary for years to come. Vag must think he's going to be the magic piece that will put  the Steelers in the playoffs this year. I tend to disagree.  

    OTOH- As I did say the Steelers are going to be a stand pat team in 2020, thank you very much. Checking their 2020 draft selections. No first rounder, have their own second, and get this- Vag is thinking Pittsburgh- missing their third round pick, is going to get a comp third back for losing Le'veon Bell. Not so fast my friend- it's complicated, but because a (recently cut) player on another team is part of the way those picks get handed out- they just might lose it.  🙂  Oh, they have two picks in both the 4th and 5th rounds. Vag is dreaming they're going to pull another Antonio Brown or two out of those selections, but I wouldn't count on it. 

    @hoorta said:

    Gip, I've never said getting Minka for a first round pick wasn't a good move. For this season, and a big help in the defensive secondary for years to come. Vag must think he's going to be the magic piece that will put  the Steelers in the playoffs this year. I tend to disagree.  

    OTOH- As I did say the Steelers are going to be a stand pat team in 2020, thank you very much. Checking their 2020 draft selections. No first rounder, have their own second, and get this- Vag is thinking Pittsburgh- missing their third round pick, is going to get a comp third back for losing Le'veon Bell. Not so fast my friend- it's complicated, but because a (recently cut) player on another team is part of the way those picks get handed out- they just might lose it.  🙂  Oh, they have two picks in both the 4th and 5th rounds. Vag is dreaming they're going to pull another Antonio Brown or two out of those selections, but I wouldn't count on it. 

    They already hit on another wr, see diontae Johnson and Washington just needs more targets. 

  • @vagitron said:

    This has been addressed ad nauseam for over a year. Ben talked retirement in an effort to force Todd Haley out. It worked, Todd is gone. If Ben wanted to retire why in the hell did he sign the extension that he did? Why did he opt to not have Tommy John? Why didn't he just retire when he went out for the whole season? He went a different route surgery wise so he could be back for the whole season next year. Tommy John would have put him out into next season.

    Ben isn't going anywhere and even if he did Rudolph at minimum will be a stop gap but I think he becomes the next one when that time comes.

    Well...BR is not stupid.  He knows that if he retires he does not get paid.  Sure, he signed an extension for a lot of money. He wants that money.  No one blames him for that.   And FYI....it may be possible that his injured elbow is not back well enough to play next year....or he may even be more susceptible to a continuing injury situation...and he would miss all or most of next year anyway. Remains to be seen. He would be 38 next year, and with frayed elbow ligaments.   Questionable chances....not impossible, but perhaps not probable.  But hang in there for the cash.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well...BR is not stupid.  He knows that if he retires he does not get paid.  Sure, he signed an extension for a lot of money. He wants that money.  No one blames him for that.   And FYI....it may be possible that his injured elbow is not back well enough to play next year....or he may even be more susceptible to a continuing injury situation...and he would miss all or most of next year anyway. Remains to be seen. He would be 38 next year, and with frayed elbow ligaments.   Questionable chances....not impossible, but perhaps not probable.  But hang in there for the cash.

    The Steelers aren’t a charity and Ben isn’t hurting for money. If he can’t play he will retire. They traded for Fitzpatrick because they believe in Rudolph. You are never right about anything, literally. You aren’t going to start being right now.

  • I will be at the draft in Cleveland, meet me at the flag pole Gipper you old, self inflated ball grabber. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    So, you get your steeler news from like underground radio....some guy wearing a tinfoil hat?  Maybe that explains why you are so out of touch with reality.

    And who says anything about banning you?  You are here to satisfy our sadist urges.  Why would we want to let go of our favorite punching bag?

    Gipper you don’t punch anything, ever. You say something fucking stupid and the other resident mongos come out of the wood work and give you thumbs up. I follow scouts, specific writers and use reddit. I listen to zero mainstream radio. 

    @vagitron said:

    Gipper you don’t punch anything, ever. You say something fucking stupid and the other resident mongos come out of the wood work and give you thumbs up. I follow scouts, specific writers and use reddit. I listen to zero mainstream radio. 

    If I didn't punch your buttons, then you wouldn't be so anxious to try to counterpunch my jabs and hooks that land on your glass chin. 

    But...beyond that  nobody cares what sources you use because whatever source you use, they must be for shit....because you know nothing, clearly. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    C'mon...

    We all know Gipper and you are lovers...

    Old white beard wishes. He rides my dick like a Russian hooker chasing United States citizenship. If it weren’t for me his post count would be half. I think 80% of his posts have been when he’s trying to trash talk me or when his dementia flares up and he forgets where he is. Poor Gipper.

    oh let’s not forget his trivia threads 8 people read. You suck gipshit. 

    @vagitron said:

    Old white beard wishes. He rides my dick like a Russian hooker chasing United States citizenship. If it weren’t for me his post count would be half. I think 80% of his posts have been when he’s trying to trash talk me or when his dementia flares up and he forgets where he is. Poor Gipper.

    oh let’s not forget his trivia threads 8 people read. You suck gipshit. 

    Yes....sure, come on over, I will ride your dick like a Russian hooker.   Just remember when you show up....I am the guy that has dealt with 2 different serial killers in his career.  I know how to kill a killer.  Think of me as kind of your personal Dexter.  Your body would never be found. 

    Besides that...you really think too highly of yourself.   You really think I (or anyone here) give one rat's ass about you.....beyond, as I said..using you as a punching bag? 

    We could give you a new nickname:  Spalding.

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  • @the-gipper said:

    Well...BR is not stupid.  He knows that if he retires he does not get paid.  Sure, he signed an extension for a lot of money. He wants that money.  No one blames him for that.   And FYI....it may be possible that his injured elbow is not back well enough to play next year....or he may even be more susceptible to a continuing injury situation...and he would miss all or most of next year anyway. Remains to be seen. He would be 38 next year, and with frayed elbow ligaments.   Questionable chances....not impossible, but perhaps not probable.  But hang in there for the cash.

    The Steelers aren’t a charity and Ben isn’t hurting for money. If he can’t play he will retire. They traded for Fitzpatrick because they believe in Rudolph. You are never right about anything, literally. You aren’t going to start being right now.

    @vagitron said:

    The Steelers aren’t a charity and Ben isn’t hurting for money.

    No....but everybody wants more money...and if he can squeeze more out of them....then he will.  How much of that money was guaranteed? I guess if he becomes worthless to them, they could cut him.

    If he can’t play he will retire.

    And he would ask to be paid the rest of his contract as an annuity...or severance pay.  Just watch.

    They traded for Fitzpatrick because they believe in Rudolph.

    No, they traded for Fitzpatrick because they believed in Fitzpatrick. And because they were in serious need of help in their DB.   WTF did that trade have to do with the QB situation?  NADA.

    You are never right about anything, literally. You aren’t going to start being right now.

    Sure, you are right.  I am completely wrong about the Steelers needing defensive backfield help and that is the reason they traded for Fitzpatrick.  They made a trade for a defensive back because they liked their young QB.  It had nothing to do with the fact that they had shite for a DB.  I mean, did you learn that idea from reddit? 

  • I will be at the draft in Cleveland, meet me at the flag pole Gipper you old, self inflated ball grabber. 

    @vagitron said:

    I will be at the draft in Cleveland, meet me at the flag pole Gipper you old, self inflated ball grabber. 

    You would likely get one look at me and ejaculate prematurely. That is, if you can get it up at all.  (does your wife know about your aberrant proclivities?)

  • @hoorta said:

    Gip, I've never said getting Minka for a first round pick wasn't a good move. For this season, and a big help in the defensive secondary for years to come. Vag must think he's going to be the magic piece that will put  the Steelers in the playoffs this year. I tend to disagree.  

    OTOH- As I did say the Steelers are going to be a stand pat team in 2020, thank you very much. Checking their 2020 draft selections. No first rounder, have their own second, and get this- Vag is thinking Pittsburgh- missing their third round pick, is going to get a comp third back for losing Le'veon Bell. Not so fast my friend- it's complicated, but because a (recently cut) player on another team is part of the way those picks get handed out- they just might lose it.  🙂  Oh, they have two picks in both the 4th and 5th rounds. Vag is dreaming they're going to pull another Antonio Brown or two out of those selections, but I wouldn't count on it. 

    They already hit on another wr, see diontae Johnson and Washington just needs more targets. 

    @vagitron said:

    They already hit on another wr, see diontae Johnson and Washington just needs more targets. 

    Yeah, I  saw Dionte, had to go to page #2 of the stats on nfl.com to find him though. 😁😁 😁 . He'd be about the Browns  #4 wr. Face it, right now  you have Ju-Ju and not much  else at the position. Conner is  #3 in receptions, the other guys aren't  getting  targets probably  because  they're not  getting open. As I  predicted, teams are going to  put their  #1 corner on Ju-Ju or double  him, dare  the Steelers to  beat them on the  ground  with  Conner or Samuels, and ignore  everyone else. The Bungles are too bad  of a team pull  that off.  

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well...BR is not stupid.  He knows that if he retires he does not get paid.  Sure, he signed an extension for a lot of money. He wants that money.  No one blames him for that.   And FYI....it may be possible that his injured elbow is not back well enough to play next year....or he may even be more susceptible to a continuing injury situation...and he would miss all or most of next year anyway. Remains to be seen. He would be 38 next year, and with frayed elbow ligaments.   Questionable chances....not impossible, but perhaps not probable.  But hang in there for the cash.

    The Steelers aren’t a charity and Ben isn’t hurting for money. If he can’t play he will retire. They traded for Fitzpatrick because they believe in Rudolph. You are never right about anything, literally. You aren’t going to start being right now.

    @vagitron said:

    The Steelers aren’t a charity and Ben isn’t hurting for money. If he can’t play he will retire. They traded for Fitzpatrick because they believe in Rudolph. You are never right about anything, literally. You aren’t going to start being right now.

    Eh, IDK about that. I mean any team believes in their guy sure, but it's probably just as much looking at the bigger picture. The Steelers have enough talent to not be a top 3 team  in the draft (the dolphins aren't going to let the #1 pick sneak between their fingers either). Tua is the top prize this year and Herbert is probably gonna be a top 10 pick, realistically. 

    I can understand this being a "lost" season, see what you have with Mason and from there see how much gas Ben has in the tank. I'm quite sure Ben isn't the type of dude to leave on an injury. If he sucks it up/isn't the same, the shiny prize of Trevor Lawerence may bring the tank to Heinz field.

  • @vagitron said:

    They already hit on another wr, see diontae Johnson and Washington just needs more targets. 

    Yeah, I  saw Dionte, had to go to page #2 of the stats on nfl.com to find him though. 😁😁 😁 . He'd be about the Browns  #4 wr. Face it, right now  you have Ju-Ju and not much  else at the position. Conner is  #3 in receptions, the other guys aren't  getting  targets probably  because  they're not  getting open. As I  predicted, teams are going to  put their  #1 corner on Ju-Ju or double  him, dare  the Steelers to  beat them on the  ground  with  Conner or Samuels, and ignore  everyone else. The Bungles are too bad  of a team pull  that off.  

    @hoorta said:

    you have Ju-Ju

    ... and he's finding out that being the #1 WR is not a lot of fun...

    ... especially with a back up QB.

  • @vagitron said:

    They already hit on another wr, see diontae Johnson and Washington just needs more targets. 

    Yeah, I  saw Dionte, had to go to page #2 of the stats on nfl.com to find him though. 😁😁 😁 . He'd be about the Browns  #4 wr. Face it, right now  you have Ju-Ju and not much  else at the position. Conner is  #3 in receptions, the other guys aren't  getting  targets probably  because  they're not  getting open. As I  predicted, teams are going to  put their  #1 corner on Ju-Ju or double  him, dare  the Steelers to  beat them on the  ground  with  Conner or Samuels, and ignore  everyone else. The Bungles are too bad  of a team pull  that off.  

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah, I  saw Dionte, had to go to page #2 of the stats on nfl.com to find him though. 😁😁 😁 . He'd be about the Browns  #4 wr. Face it, right now  you have Ju-Ju and not much  else at the position. Conner is  #3 in receptions, the other guys aren't  getting  targets probably  because  they're not  getting open. As I  predicted, teams are going to  put their  #1 corner on Ju-Ju or double  him, dare  the Steelers to  beat them on the  ground  with  Conner or Samuels, and ignore  everyone else. The Bungles are too bad  of a team pull  that off.  

    And all the Steelers are doing it seems are checkdowns...and that is why Conners is getting so many receptions.

    I would possibly like to see Baker do a few checkdowns to Chubb etc.

  • @hoorta said:

    you have Ju-Ju

    ... and he's finding out that being the #1 WR is not a lot of fun...

    ... especially with a back up QB.

    @tour2ma said:

    ... and he's finding out that being the #1 WR is not a lot of fun...

    ... especially with a back up QB.

    It doesn't seem to be bothering him any. As Mason improves juju will get more attention. 

  • @vagitron said:

    They already hit on another wr, see diontae Johnson and Washington just needs more targets. 

    Yeah, I  saw Dionte, had to go to page #2 of the stats on nfl.com to find him though. 😁😁 😁 . He'd be about the Browns  #4 wr. Face it, right now  you have Ju-Ju and not much  else at the position. Conner is  #3 in receptions, the other guys aren't  getting  targets probably  because  they're not  getting open. As I  predicted, teams are going to  put their  #1 corner on Ju-Ju or double  him, dare  the Steelers to  beat them on the  ground  with  Conner or Samuels, and ignore  everyone else. The Bungles are too bad  of a team pull  that off.  

    @hoorta said:

    Yeah, I  saw Dionte, had to go to page #2 of the stats on nfl.com to find him though. 😁😁 😁 . He'd be about the Browns  #4 wr. Face it, right now  you have Ju-Ju and not much  else at the position. Conner is  #3 in receptions, the other guys aren't  getting  targets probably  because  they're not  getting open. As I  predicted, teams are going to  put their  #1 corner on Ju-Ju or double  him, dare  the Steelers to  beat them on the  ground  with  Conner or Samuels, and ignore  everyone else. The Bungles are too bad  of a team pull  that off.  

    I watch a lot of steeler tape, I watch a lot of scout breakdowns and analyst break down. Johnson creates separation almost at will so my comments aren't based on just game tape. It could be something from training camp, preseason whatever. If you watched the game against the bungles you would have seen a lot of the passes were designed runs. It was the game plan and they ran it. Mason needs to get more comfortable with his reads and the offense and things will open up. The Steelers have more than juju. Washington and Johnson are both going to be solid and the steelers have a track record to flesh it out. 

    Good luck against that niner pass rush with your offensive line.

  • @tour2ma said:

    ... and he's finding out that being the #1 WR is not a lot of fun...

    ... especially with a back up QB.

    It doesn't seem to be bothering him any. As Mason improves juju will get more attention. 

    @vagitron said:

    It doesn't seem to be bothering him any. As Mason improves juju will get more attention. 

    Uhm.....am I hearing that he may be inactive for this coming game vs. the Ratfuckers?

    https://www.pennlive.com/steelers/2019/10/juju-smith-schuster-sits-out-practice-with-toe-injury-vince-williams-returns-more-from-the-steelers-injury-report.html

  • @vagitron said:

    It doesn't seem to be bothering him any. As Mason improves juju will get more attention. 

    Uhm.....am I hearing that he may be inactive for this coming game vs. the Ratfuckers?

    https://www.pennlive.com/steelers/2019/10/juju-smith-schuster-sits-out-practice-with-toe-injury-vince-williams-returns-more-from-the-steelers-injury-report.html

    @the-gipper said:

    Uhm.....am I hearing that he may be inactive for this coming game vs. the Ratfuckers?

    https://www.pennlive.com/steelers/2019/10/juju-smith-schuster-sits-out-practice-with-toe-injury-vince-williams-returns-more-from-the-steelers-injury-report.html

    It's exactly this kind of shit that proves my point. You talk out of your ass. It makes no mention of him being inactive. If he doesn't practice tomorrow maybe he doesn't play. If he doesn't it's next man up. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Uhm.....am I hearing that he may be inactive for this coming game vs. the Ratfuckers?

    https://www.pennlive.com/steelers/2019/10/juju-smith-schuster-sits-out-practice-with-toe-injury-vince-williams-returns-more-from-the-steelers-injury-report.html

    It's exactly this kind of shit that proves my point. You talk out of your ass. It makes no mention of him being inactive. If he doesn't practice tomorrow maybe he doesn't play. If he doesn't it's next man up. 

    @vagitron said:

    It's exactly this kind of shit that proves my point. You talk out of your ass. It makes no mention of him being inactive. If he doesn't practice tomorrow maybe he doesn't play. If he doesn't it's next man up. 

    There was speculation on TV you know main stream sports media not your esoteric biased Steeler bullshit

  • @vagitron said:

    It's exactly this kind of shit that proves my point. You talk out of your ass. It makes no mention of him being inactive. If he doesn't practice tomorrow maybe he doesn't play. If he doesn't it's next man up. 

    There was speculation on TV you know main stream sports media not your esoteric biased Steeler bullshit

    @the-gipper said:

    There was speculation on TV you know main stream sports media not your esoteric biased Steeler bullshit

    Yea speculation. People speculated the steelers were the problem with antonio brown annnnnnd then. You know what they say about assumptions don't you gipper? I won't be shocked if he doesn't play seeing as its the same toe that bothered him week one. It still doesn't change my point. I would wager everything you say smells like shit. You routinely talk straight out of your ass.

  • @the-gipper said:

    There was speculation on TV you know main stream sports media not your esoteric biased Steeler bullshit

    Yea speculation. People speculated the steelers were the problem with antonio brown annnnnnd then. You know what they say about assumptions don't you gipper? I won't be shocked if he doesn't play seeing as its the same toe that bothered him week one. It still doesn't change my point. I would wager everything you say smells like shit. You routinely talk straight out of your ass.

    @vagitron said:

    Yea speculation. People speculated the steelers were the problem with antonio brown annnnnnd then.

    No, people speculated that the problem was that yinzers had oh so many drama queens on your team:  AB, BR, Bell.  People were right. Now you are essentially shed of all those queens.  So maybe the horseshit surrounding that team has tone downed tremendously. I think that is probable.  

    You know what they say about assumptions don't you gipper? I won't be shocked if he doesn't play seeing as its the same toe that bothered him week one. It still doesn't change my point.

    You actually have no point.  Or, if you do...it is to argue with reports made about your team that have been made in the media. Which is the same as having no point.

    I would wager everything you say smells like shit. You routinely talk straight out of your ass.

    You of all people should know that my ass smells like lilacs in bloom.  Your nose is there so often. Nevertheless...I get my information from mainly mainstream sports media.  Sure.   Where else...in your opinion, should I get it?  And where do you think the mainstream media get most of their information?   From reports that come directly from the teams.  Like...the injury report.  Who makes those out? 

    So...if I say that it has been reported the JJSS may not play....it is because the team has told the world that he is questionable.  So, I guess, really, your argument is with the information your own team puts out.

  • When the Steelers beat a terrible pop warner bengals team, look who shows up!

    going 0-3 beforehand however, the crickets played an amazing symphony for you Steelers twat boys!  You guys suck

  • If pittspukes offense was any more conservative..I think their playbook was written by fox news.

    Cowturd called it helicopter coaching lol