Browns at 49ers - Official MNF thread
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My favorite thing about this thread is how you guys started it by saying how great your team is and how you expected just to tear San Fran up, and then once the game began, it just started deteriorating pretty quickly. The Browns have the most delusional fans I have ever seen. You guys don't see reality, but I'm here to tell you, your team is the joke of the league. Sure, you guys came in last week against us and executed a well prepared game plan, but even after that game, only Cleveland fans felt the hype. Nobody else can take you all seriously. It would take a lot more than one well-played game for that to happen. Then last night, the Browns got back to being the Browns. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Don't you all find it funny how, even if you pick up talented players, Cleveland doesn't know how to win. Good teams take average players and make them good...the Browns always find a way to take good players and make them bad. Only you guys bought into the hype that you were gonna be the team to beat, everyone else said, "It's Cleveland, no threat there". Shit, even on the Cincinnati boards, the team that hadn't won shit, are still talking smack about you. That should say something. Your team is nothing but made of a bunch of losers. I just wanted to give you heads up since you guys can't really tell what is going on.
My favorite thing about this thread is how you guys started it by saying how great your team is and how you expected just to tear San Fran up, and then once the game began, it just started deteriorating pretty quickly. The Browns have the most delusional fans I have ever seen. You guys don't see reality, but I'm here to tell you, your team is the joke of the league. Sure, you guys came in last week against us and executed a well prepared game plan, but even after that game, only Cleveland fans felt the hype. Nobody else can take you all seriously. It would take a lot more than one well-played game for that to happen. Then last night, the Browns got back to being the Browns. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Don't you all find it funny how, even if you pick up talented players, Cleveland doesn't know how to win. Good teams take average players and make them good...the Browns always find a way to take good players and make them bad. Only you guys bought into the hype that you were gonna be the team to beat, everyone else said, "It's Cleveland, no threat there". Shit, even on the Cincinnati boards, the team that hadn't won shit, are still talking smack about you. That should say something. Your team is nothing but made of a bunch of losers. I just wanted to give you heads up since you guys can't really tell what is going on.
Please come back the week of our next game with the Rats- when both of our teams have settled in with their new pieces.
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My favorite thing about this thread is how you guys started it by saying how great your team is and how you expected just to tear San Fran up, and then once the game began, it just started deteriorating pretty quickly. The Browns have the most delusional fans I have ever seen. You guys don't see reality, but I'm here to tell you, your team is the joke of the league. Sure, you guys came in last week against us and executed a well prepared game plan, but even after that game, only Cleveland fans felt the hype. Nobody else can take you all seriously. It would take a lot more than one well-played game for that to happen. Then last night, the Browns got back to being the Browns. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Don't you all find it funny how, even if you pick up talented players, Cleveland doesn't know how to win. Good teams take average players and make them good...the Browns always find a way to take good players and make them bad. Only you guys bought into the hype that you were gonna be the team to beat, everyone else said, "It's Cleveland, no threat there". Shit, even on the Cincinnati boards, the team that hadn't won shit, are still talking smack about you. That should say something. Your team is nothing but made of a bunch of losers. I just wanted to give you heads up since you guys can't really tell what is going on.
you came here to troll.. Genius!
you came here to troll.. Genius!
I came here before OUR game..but today, I came not only to troll, but to help with a reality check
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My favorite thing about this thread is how you guys started it by saying how great your team is and how you expected just to tear San Fran up, and then once the game began, it just started deteriorating pretty quickly. The Browns have the most delusional fans I have ever seen. You guys don't see reality, but I'm here to tell you, your team is the joke of the league. Sure, you guys came in last week against us and executed a well prepared game plan, but even after that game, only Cleveland fans felt the hype. Nobody else can take you all seriously. It would take a lot more than one well-played game for that to happen. Then last night, the Browns got back to being the Browns. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Don't you all find it funny how, even if you pick up talented players, Cleveland doesn't know how to win. Good teams take average players and make them good...the Browns always find a way to take good players and make them bad. Only you guys bought into the hype that you were gonna be the team to beat, everyone else said, "It's Cleveland, no threat there". Shit, even on the Cincinnati boards, the team that hadn't won shit, are still talking smack about you. That should say something. Your team is nothing but made of a bunch of losers. I just wanted to give you heads up since you guys can't really tell what is going on.
Please come back the week of our next game with the Rats- when both of our teams have settled in with their new pieces.
Please come back the week of our next game with the Rats- when both of our teams have settled in with their new pieces.
Oh, I'll be here. Again, your team doesn't scare anybody. A team built around a losing franchise has to play more than one good game to gain any respect. You all may go 8 and 8 this year, and that would satisfy you guys. That shits funny to me. Only Browns fans could be happy with a split season.
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Decided to steer clear of here last night during the dumpster fire but can't stay silent today. Things that were solidified for me. We thought the offensive line is sub par and it clearly is. Now to the best of my knowledge no one in here works for the Browns but I'm a like sketchy on how John Dorsey didn't realize this. Baker is Baker. With a clean pocket and time he can hit receivers but under duress he absolutely worthless. Baker is also a self-apologist, ego maniac and clearly not a leader as we saw OBJ trying to rally the troops instead of Baker. The defense is solid. They can use some fine tuning but if they are supported by a competent offense I think they can keep this team in games. And I'm still holding my breath that the DB we selected FUCKING 4th can actually get on the field and play like the FUCKING 4th pick, oh wait he's a Buckeye can we criticize him.....
The Defense is NOT solid. I'm waiting to see the SUPERSTARDOM in Vernon because SF ran right at him on the play Breida eventually got his speed up over 22 MPH. This guy is supposed to be a great pass rusher but he seems more content and consistent with peak-a-boo.
I'm waiting to see Richardson play like the 1st round talent he's supposed to be.
The tackling in our secondary is a mess. Guys were in position to stop first downs on first contact - IF they could tackle. They couldn't.
Offensively, they were unprepared from the Head Coach down. No excuses, Freddie is calling the plays and he had no idea what SF was made of. None.
Just venting here but I gotta be honest.
Last year, we had a lot of discussions in the 2nd half of the year how Baker's ability to get rid of the ball quickly (and accurately) actually made the offensive line look better in pass pro. Somebody might want to show Baker some of that film again; because that was a huge strength that disappeared like a Houdini rabbit. This year, Baker has a different QB Coach replacing Zampese. Before anyone wants to remind me Zampese sucked as an OC in Cincy; that doesn't mean he sucked as a QB Coach there or here. Cincy was 12-4 in Hue's last year as OC; but he sucked as a HC and OC here. Zampese had a positive impact on Baker in 2018 reflected in the much better performance. Right now, Baker is either not getting good QB coaching or he doesn't respect is QB Coach enough to be coached up by him.
Another thing I thought Baker was really good at last year was throwing a pass over 1 defender to our Receivers in front of the next defender. He layered it in - while far too many of his throws are sailing high.
The game plans seem to be forcing OBJ's involvement to the extent of smoke and mirrors giving off the vibe to our opponent "is this really all they can do with OBJ today? How thoughtful!" I was hoping the sum of what we got in offensive coordination last year plus whatever new wrinkles the new OC (that hasn't been allowed to call the plays in Cleveland yet just like he couldn't under Dirk Koetter in TB) could at least add to the playbook.
I think Jeff Foxworthy wants us to know - "You might be a red neck if you came up with idea that a crappy TE like Pharaoh Brown should block Nick Bosa in pass pro." Even worse, what knucklehead improved such an idea? If you want to lose the buy-in from players - that'll do it. What is that guy still doing on this roster? I thought they were going to do a screen pass with the inevitable but no such luck.
There was a lot of stupidity in our leadership on the sideline and during the week of preparation that made SF play their perfect game. I remembered Freddie saying heading into the TN game that the Browns had been preparing for TN for 3 weeks. 18-19 penalties and a lopsided margin of defeat later - I gotta wonder WTF they prepared for. Both losses vrs TN and SF aren't easy to forget or sugarcoat. The Browns and Coaching Staff made both opponents look a lot better than they have looked against many of their other opponents. It looked like we had Rain Man playing our Gridiron Chess...
If we have the right leadership (from coaches and players), this stuff gets cleaned up THIS week. It doesn't get any easier though. Russell Wilson is coming to town with the top completion % for most of 2019 and an elusiveness making him tough to tackle. Miles Garrett says he wants to be an MVP, how about looking like Nick Bosa looked against us? That wouldn't suck. We know we have the play makers on both sides of the ball. If this team prepares like it should - game days won't be so freakin disappointing. It was proven at Ratville just last week...
Offensively, they were unprepared from the Head Coach down. No excuses, Freddie is calling the plays and he had no idea what SF was made of. None.
Yep. I think... the idea was to really go after em on defense, but their offensive line - pretty freakin good - trap blocked the Browns into open holes? Do I have that right? I believe the defensive coaches won't make THAT mistake again. And I haven't found fault with Freddie's playcalling - until last night. You have Bosa and co - what happened to quick slants? I think they miss Njoku on slants, where did those plays go? The Browns oline couldn't hold up long enough for wr's to run any fancy route. I believe Bitonio got bowled over trying desperately to reach out left and help helpless Robinson. Seriously? The Browns defense can match up with ...almost, any team in the NFL. They really missed Ward and Greedy tonight. And Whitehead trying to cover their TE? Didn't he hit the big TE above the hips? I mean, right at his point of power? I'll bet that hurt.
The upside - the Browns will learn a TON from that loss. No huge deal.
I think Jeff Foxworthy wants us to know - "You might be a red neck if you came up with idea that a crappy TE like Pharaoh Brown should block Nick Bosa in pass pro." Even worse, what knucklehead improved such an idea? If you want to lose the buy-in from players - that'll do it. What is that guy still doing on this roster? I thought they were going to do a screen pass with the inevitable but no such luck.
Pharaoh Brown. Needs to work on not being a regular one or two really bad timing mistakes/penalties a game. He seems not to have the agility to block a bosa, etc. Has a lot to learn and isn't really good at it, maybe.
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and note to the grade school ratskunk fan who showed up - we beat your team. at your stinking place.
You aren't very smart. Probably having trouble with 6th grade art class. lol
09/29/2019 Cleveland Browns 40 @ Baltimore Ravens 25 -
My favorite thing about this thread is how you guys started it by saying how great your team is and how you expected just to tear San Fran up, and then once the game began, it just started deteriorating pretty quickly. The Browns have the most delusional fans I have ever seen. You guys don't see reality, but I'm here to tell you, your team is the joke of the league. Sure, you guys came in last week against us and executed a well prepared game plan, but even after that game, only Cleveland fans felt the hype. Nobody else can take you all seriously. It would take a lot more than one well-played game for that to happen. Then last night, the Browns got back to being the Browns. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Don't you all find it funny how, even if you pick up talented players, Cleveland doesn't know how to win. Good teams take average players and make them good...the Browns always find a way to take good players and make them bad. Only you guys bought into the hype that you were gonna be the team to beat, everyone else said, "It's Cleveland, no threat there". Shit, even on the Cincinnati boards, the team that hadn't won shit, are still talking smack about you. That should say something. Your team is nothing but made of a bunch of losers. I just wanted to give you heads up since you guys can't really tell what is going on.
My favorite thing about this thread is how you guys started it by saying how great your team is and how you expected just to tear San Fran up, and then once the game began, it just started deteriorating pretty quickly. The Browns have the most delusional fans I have ever seen. You guys don't see reality, but I'm here to tell you, your team is the joke of the league. Sure, you guys came in last week against us and executed a well prepared game plan, but even after that game, only Cleveland fans felt the hype. Nobody else can take you all seriously. It would take a lot more than one well-played game for that to happen. Then last night, the Browns got back to being the Browns. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Don't you all find it funny how, even if you pick up talented players, Cleveland doesn't know how to win. Good teams take average players and make them good...the Browns always find a way to take good players and make them bad. Only you guys bought into the hype that you were gonna be the team to beat, everyone else said, "It's Cleveland, no threat there". Shit, even on the Cincinnati boards, the team that hadn't won shit, are still talking smack about you. That should say something. Your team is nothing but made of a bunch of losers. I just wanted to give you heads up since you guys can't really tell what is going on.
I'm sure you're probably looking for some angry person to yell at you, call you a troll, etc. Heck, I'm confident someone will.
But here's the truth and reality of your world. It's nothing short of pathetic to have to find validation in trolling a team's fan board. People who need to do it, yourself included, are nothing but worthless to society losers who need validation in the form of internet anonymity. The simple truth is that you have little real world value to bring and sadly have to find your worth in such actions as coming here. So much of who you are as a person is around a team you have zero control over.
But hey, keep living the dream my man. Cool post.
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My favorite thing about this thread is how you guys started it by saying how great your team is and how you expected just to tear San Fran up, and then once the game began, it just started deteriorating pretty quickly. The Browns have the most delusional fans I have ever seen. You guys don't see reality, but I'm here to tell you, your team is the joke of the league. Sure, you guys came in last week against us and executed a well prepared game plan, but even after that game, only Cleveland fans felt the hype. Nobody else can take you all seriously. It would take a lot more than one well-played game for that to happen. Then last night, the Browns got back to being the Browns. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Don't you all find it funny how, even if you pick up talented players, Cleveland doesn't know how to win. Good teams take average players and make them good...the Browns always find a way to take good players and make them bad. Only you guys bought into the hype that you were gonna be the team to beat, everyone else said, "It's Cleveland, no threat there". Shit, even on the Cincinnati boards, the team that hadn't won shit, are still talking smack about you. That should say something. Your team is nothing but made of a bunch of losers. I just wanted to give you heads up since you guys can't really tell what is going on.
My favorite thing about this thread is how you guys started it by saying how great your team is and how you expected just to tear San Fran up, and then once the game began, it just started deteriorating pretty quickly. The Browns have the most delusional fans I have ever seen. You guys don't see reality, but I'm here to tell you, your team is the joke of the league. Sure, you guys came in last week against us and executed a well prepared game plan, but even after that game, only Cleveland fans felt the hype. Nobody else can take you all seriously. It would take a lot more than one well-played game for that to happen. Then last night, the Browns got back to being the Browns. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Don't you all find it funny how, even if you pick up talented players, Cleveland doesn't know how to win. Good teams take average players and make them good...the Browns always find a way to take good players and make them bad. Only you guys bought into the hype that you were gonna be the team to beat, everyone else said, "It's Cleveland, no threat there". Shit, even on the Cincinnati boards, the team that hadn't won shit, are still talking smack about you. That should say something. Your team is nothing but made of a bunch of losers. I just wanted to give you heads up since you guys can't really tell what is going on.
Niner fan here....
....thats a lot of smack for a team running a retread offense circa SF 2012 and have been exposed pretty badly. NEWSFLASH: Greg Roman is a fraud. You'll get excited until his symplistic offense gets figured out and then you will go nowhere.
There is a reason SF tried to make Kap a pocket passer. That offense doesn't work long term and will get Lamar killed. How? Eventually, teams will stop caring about giving up runs on Zone Reads by the RB and will instead blow up the QB on every single down.
Take it from someone who watched the exact same cycle with another Harbaugh and the exact same OC, Baltimore has been exposed and they don't have near the defensive talent that SF did.
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My favorite thing about this thread is how you guys started it by saying how great your team is and how you expected just to tear San Fran up, and then once the game began, it just started deteriorating pretty quickly. The Browns have the most delusional fans I have ever seen. You guys don't see reality, but I'm here to tell you, your team is the joke of the league. Sure, you guys came in last week against us and executed a well prepared game plan, but even after that game, only Cleveland fans felt the hype. Nobody else can take you all seriously. It would take a lot more than one well-played game for that to happen. Then last night, the Browns got back to being the Browns. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Don't you all find it funny how, even if you pick up talented players, Cleveland doesn't know how to win. Good teams take average players and make them good...the Browns always find a way to take good players and make them bad. Only you guys bought into the hype that you were gonna be the team to beat, everyone else said, "It's Cleveland, no threat there". Shit, even on the Cincinnati boards, the team that hadn't won shit, are still talking smack about you. That should say something. Your team is nothing but made of a bunch of losers. I just wanted to give you heads up since you guys can't really tell what is going on.
I'm sure you're probably looking for some angry person to yell at you, call you a troll, etc. Heck, I'm confident someone will.
But here's the truth and reality of your world. It's nothing short of pathetic to have to find validation in trolling a team's fan board. People who need to do it, yourself included, are nothing but worthless to society losers who need validation in the form of internet anonymity. The simple truth is that you have little real world value to bring and sadly have to find your worth in such actions as coming here. So much of who you are as a person is around a team you have zero control over.
But hey, keep living the dream my man. Cool post.
I'm sure you're probably looking for some angry person to yell at you, call you a troll, etc. Heck, I'm confident someone will.
But here's the truth and reality of your world. It's nothing short of pathetic to have to find validation in trolling a team's fan board. People who need to do it, yourself included, are nothing but worthless to society losers who need validation in the form of internet anonymity. The simple truth is that you have little real world value to bring and sadly have to find your worth in such actions as coming here. So much of who you are as a person is around a team you have zero control over.
But hey, keep living the dream my man. Cool post.
Thanks for the compliments, bro. I just like to tell it like it is. I don't mean to kick you all while you're down, but all the build up surrounding the Browns this year drove everyone nuts except your fanbase. Everyone else was just shaking our heads. You played one good game (unfortunately it was against my team), but you still have no other team shaking. Only Browns fans think the Browns can be any good, that's where the reality check comes in. I hate to be the one that has to give you guys the bad news, but someone's got to do it.
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09/29/2019 Cleveland Browns 40 @ Baltimore Ravens 25 -
09/29/2019 Cleveland Browns 40 @ Baltimore Ravens 25 10/7/2019 San Francisco 49ers 31 Cleveland Browns 3
Two can play that game
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My favorite thing about this thread is how you guys started it by saying how great your team is and how you expected just to tear San Fran up, and then once the game began, it just started deteriorating pretty quickly. The Browns have the most delusional fans I have ever seen. You guys don't see reality, but I'm here to tell you, your team is the joke of the league. Sure, you guys came in last week against us and executed a well prepared game plan, but even after that game, only Cleveland fans felt the hype. Nobody else can take you all seriously. It would take a lot more than one well-played game for that to happen. Then last night, the Browns got back to being the Browns. I laughed and laughed and laughed some more. Don't you all find it funny how, even if you pick up talented players, Cleveland doesn't know how to win. Good teams take average players and make them good...the Browns always find a way to take good players and make them bad. Only you guys bought into the hype that you were gonna be the team to beat, everyone else said, "It's Cleveland, no threat there". Shit, even on the Cincinnati boards, the team that hadn't won shit, are still talking smack about you. That should say something. Your team is nothing but made of a bunch of losers. I just wanted to give you heads up since you guys can't really tell what is going on.
I'm sure you're probably looking for some angry person to yell at you, call you a troll, etc. Heck, I'm confident someone will.
But here's the truth and reality of your world. It's nothing short of pathetic to have to find validation in trolling a team's fan board. People who need to do it, yourself included, are nothing but worthless to society losers who need validation in the form of internet anonymity. The simple truth is that you have little real world value to bring and sadly have to find your worth in such actions as coming here. So much of who you are as a person is around a team you have zero control over.
But hey, keep living the dream my man. Cool post.
I'm sure you're probably looking for some angry person to yell at you, call you a troll, etc. Heck, I'm confident someone will.
But here's the truth and reality of your world. It's nothing short of pathetic to have to find validation in trolling a team's fan board. People who need to do it, yourself included, are nothing but worthless to society losers who need validation in the form of internet anonymity. The simple truth is that you have little real world value to bring and sadly have to find your worth in such actions as coming here. So much of who you are as a person is around a team you have zero control over.
But hey, keep living the dream my man. Cool post.
Oh, our Raven troll is pretty close to getting shown the door.
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I'm just here to tell the most delusional fans in all of football what the reality is...I'm not trying to be a bad guy by telling the truth.
not very smart, though. How can you diss our Browns as losers when the Browns hammered your ratskunks?
Do you not get the irony and ignorance in your trolling? Or did you stop being a ratskunk fan and start being a fan of the niners?
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10/7/2019 San Francisco 49ers 31 Cleveland Browns 3
Two can play that game
You’re franchise exists because of Cleveland. Be grateful.
And not every Browns fan thought this was gonna be an easy W. Like last weeks game at Baltimore.
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I came here before OUR game..but today, I came not only to troll, but to help with a reality check
Here's your reality check. Come back and talk after you beat a team with a winning record. The teams you've beaten are a something like a collective 2-11-1. And those two wins came against the Bengals, who look like they're going to give the Dolphins a run for the #1 overall pick in 2020. And whoopee, that record will be 2-16-1 assuming you can somehow beat the hapless Bengals. It gets a tad more difficult after that.
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This is far, far from official, but I think it's important for the "offensive line sucks; crowd. I'm watching the replays now, here's what I see:
1) Baker INT at 13:12, Q1-Roughly 4 seconds to pressure (with a TE blocking, no less). 4 man pressure.
2) Baker SACK at 11:12, Q1- About 3 seconds to pressure on a blitz look. RB was blown up and collapsed pocket.
3) Baker LOST FUMBLE at 3:34, Q1- Easily 5+ seconds of protection, 4 man pressure. Slight collapse of outside pocket from Bosa, but not 'unclean pocket'. Easily could have stepped up instead of out, causing the fumble.
4) Baker INT at 4:55, Q2- Mostly on Callaway, 90% on the WR there. Obviously you want a cleaner ball, but that should be a TD-no excuses.
5) Backer SACK at 1:40, Q2-Less than 3 second to pressure, small blitz look but Bosa blew play up, no doubt.
6) Baker SACK at 0:05 seconds-Maybe 3.5 seconds to pressure, but an easy "navigate" to safety by #6. Baker again moving backward instead of moving up in the pocket. Bosa is double teamed, but comes back for sack.
7) Baker SACK/Fumble at 12:05, Q4-Between 3.5 and 4 seconds to pressure, but Bosa definitely beat Robinson.
The two I highlighted is where I'm firmly in the offensive line group, italics is more on the QB. My verdict? The line played fine given their Dline is literally at 1st round talent players. They can improve drastically, but of the negative plays Baker, scheme or Callaway was directly responsible compared to the line. It really affirms to me that scheme/Mayfield are more the culprit than our line group.
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I don't know why you guys are getting all heated up and bent out of shape. I'm just telling you guys how your team's viewed by the rest of the league. As long as most people alive can remember, the Browns have been non-contenders..the current ones and the ones that moved here. Well, the ones that moved here UNTIL they moved here. Because as we all know, once they moved to Baltimore, it didn't take long for them to become a real team. Then once you guys got your beloved Browns back, the team started where they left off, and had the rest of the league laughing at them again. Since then, what'd you guys have, 2 winning seasons? TWO, in 20 years. And I'm not saying the Ravens don't have their own problems this year...we recognize that we do. But they are correctable problems. Cleveland's problems are that they are just a loser franchise, and that's much harder to correct. One thing is for sure when it comes to the two teams: Baltimore's franchise, the entire organization all the way down to the players, are well respected around the league...the Cleveland Browns are not. Your team is viewed as one big disaster after another. Sorry you fans can't handle that, but it's the truth. And it will take a ton more than one good game to change anybody's opinion of that. I mean, look what they did the very next week, right after a game you guys were riding high on for about 5 minutes...they fuckin lay an egg. I mean, not just got beat, but got their asses handed to them. Mayfield actually lost points in fantasy...I don't know if that's ever happened before. But that is the epitome of the Cleveland Browns. That's what you guys are.
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I don't know why you guys are getting all heated up and bent out of shape. I'm just telling you guys how your team's viewed by the rest of the league. As long as most people alive can remember, the Browns have been non-contenders..the current ones and the ones that moved here. Well, the ones that moved here UNTIL they moved here. Because as we all know, once they moved to Baltimore, it didn't take long for them to become a real team. Then once you guys got your beloved Browns back, the team started where they left off, and had the rest of the league laughing at them again. Since then, what'd you guys have, 2 winning seasons? TWO, in 20 years. And I'm not saying the Ravens don't have their own problems this year...we recognize that we do. But they are correctable problems. Cleveland's problems are that they are just a loser franchise, and that's much harder to correct. One thing is for sure when it comes to the two teams: Baltimore's franchise, the entire organization all the way down to the players, are well respected around the league...the Cleveland Browns are not. Your team is viewed as one big disaster after another. Sorry you fans can't handle that, but it's the truth. And it will take a ton more than one good game to change anybody's opinion of that. I mean, look what they did the very next week, right after a game you guys were riding high on for about 5 minutes...they fuckin lay an egg. I mean, not just got beat, but got their asses handed to them. Mayfield actually lost points in fantasy...I don't know if that's ever happened before. But that is the epitome of the Cleveland Browns. That's what you guys are.
That's what you guys are.
Duh everyone in Ohio and beyond knows that. We have records and computers and all of dem fancy toys to look things up.
Do you have an anything else to share?
Oh and welcome to The BROWNS Board home of lively discussions. mjp
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I don't know why you guys are getting all heated up and bent out of shape. I'm just telling you guys how your team's viewed by the rest of the league. As long as most people alive can remember, the Browns have been non-contenders..the current ones and the ones that moved here. Well, the ones that moved here UNTIL they moved here. Because as we all know, once they moved to Baltimore, it didn't take long for them to become a real team. Then once you guys got your beloved Browns back, the team started where they left off, and had the rest of the league laughing at them again. Since then, what'd you guys have, 2 winning seasons? TWO, in 20 years. And I'm not saying the Ravens don't have their own problems this year...we recognize that we do. But they are correctable problems. Cleveland's problems are that they are just a loser franchise, and that's much harder to correct. One thing is for sure when it comes to the two teams: Baltimore's franchise, the entire organization all the way down to the players, are well respected around the league...the Cleveland Browns are not. Your team is viewed as one big disaster after another. Sorry you fans can't handle that, but it's the truth. And it will take a ton more than one good game to change anybody's opinion of that. I mean, look what they did the very next week, right after a game you guys were riding high on for about 5 minutes...they fuckin lay an egg. I mean, not just got beat, but got their asses handed to them. Mayfield actually lost points in fantasy...I don't know if that's ever happened before. But that is the epitome of the Cleveland Browns. That's what you guys are.
I don't know why you guys are getting all heated up and bent out of shape. I'm just telling you guys how your team's viewed by the rest of the league. One thing is for sure when it comes to the two teams: Baltimore's franchise, the entire organization all the way down to the players, are well respected around the league...the Cleveland Browns are not.
That's what you guys are.
You talk a lot for a fan that just lost the the lowly Browns.
Oh, maybe that’s why your here
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I'm sure you're probably looking for some angry person to yell at you, call you a troll, etc. Heck, I'm confident someone will.
But here's the truth and reality of your world. It's nothing short of pathetic to have to find validation in trolling a team's fan board. People who need to do it, yourself included, are nothing but worthless to society losers who need validation in the form of internet anonymity. The simple truth is that you have little real world value to bring and sadly have to find your worth in such actions as coming here. So much of who you are as a person is around a team you have zero control over.
But hey, keep living the dream my man. Cool post.
Thanks for the compliments, bro. I just like to tell it like it is. I don't mean to kick you all while you're down, but all the build up surrounding the Browns this year drove everyone nuts except your fanbase. Everyone else was just shaking our heads. You played one good game (unfortunately it was against my team), but you still have no other team shaking. Only Browns fans think the Browns can be any good, that's where the reality check comes in. I hate to be the one that has to give you guys the bad news, but someone's got to do it.
I don't mean to kick you all while you're down, but all the build up surrounding the Browns this year drove everyone nuts except your fanbase. Everyone else was just shaking our heads.
Let's see- our team has been absolutely atrocious since 2008, goes 1-31 in a two year span, then goes 7-8-1.
That's the story, and it's a good NFL story. For the first time in a long long time, there is hope here. The national media spotlighted it, it didn't originate from Cleveland.
Quit stirring the pot.
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