What is your REVISED *OCTOBER PREDICTION of the 2019 season record? *DECEMBER Review.
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Not really a revision for me as my preseason prediction was 10-6 . They're currently a game behind my expectations by losing the Tennessee game.
Not really a revision for me as my preseason prediction was 10-6 . They're currently a game behind my expectations by losing the Tennessee game.
I hope that you are right, my preseason pick was *9-5-1 and I'm going to join the majority here and go with my original pick here and go with *9-5-1......but with no ties yet 9-7 also looks possible.
Boring huh.
.......* yes I know it was 9-6-1 but even that looks like a stretch right now.
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Not really a revision for me as my preseason prediction was 10-6 . They're currently a game behind my expectations by losing the Tennessee game.
I hope that you are right, my preseason pick was *9-5-1 and I'm going to join the majority here and go with my original pick here and go with *9-5-1......but with no ties yet 9-7 also looks possible.
Boring huh.
.......* yes I know it was 9-6-1 but even that looks like a stretch right now.
I hope that you are right, my preseason pick was 9-5-1 and I'm going to join the majority here and go with my original pick here and go with 9-5-1......but with no ties yet 9-7 also looks possible.
Boring huh.
9-5-1 = 15 games. Kind of missed that from the getgo.?
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9-5-1 = 15 games. Kind of missed that from the getgo.?
1 DNP. No actually it was 9-6-1.
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The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that if the Browns lose vs the Pats next Sunday, they will go 8-8 at best.
They'd have to go 6-3 the rest of the way to finish .500.
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12-4.
3-4 … Steal this game vs. the Patriots. Get Ward, Greedy and Higgins back.
4-4 … Beat the Broncos for all those years ago. They aren't as good as us.
5-4 … Get Hunt back. Run the ball down the Bills throat.
6-4 … Win another division game here vs. the Stealers.
7-4 … Get Njoku back and make the Dolphins call in the rest of the season.
8-4 … Stealers, remember us? Do it again.
9-4 … 10-4 … The Bungles and the Cardinals get it too...
11-4 … Best the Ravens again for the division.
12-4 … Bengals are still recovering from the last beating.
12-4 Anything less is giving up.
3-4 … Steal this game vs. the Patriots. Get Ward, Greedy and Higgins back. L, if Greedy & Ward are free to play man on man? we got to score 20'ish & stop RB dinks?
4-4 … Beat the Broncos for all those years ago. They aren't as good as us. W
5-4 … Get Hunt back. Run the ball down the Bills throat. L, best defense we play left on schedule..and it's not going well
6-4 … Win another division game here vs. the Stealers. W
7-4 … Get Njoku back and make the Dolphins call in the rest of the season. W
8-4 … Stealers, remember us? Do it again. L????
9-4 … 10-4 … The Bungles and the Cardinals get it too... W/W
11-4 … Best the Ravens again for the division. W
12-4 … Bengals are still recovering from the last beating. W
12-4 Anything less is giving up.
7-3 is realistic of what's left?... Can we beat Pitt in Pitt? Heck... we got to have it... 9-7 maybe 10-6..Chubb & Hunt must move the chains & the 2nd & 20's has got to stop ?
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1. Browns record? 11-5
Above was my response to Dutch's Questions... woulda swore I was at 10-6 and no revision required, but I was one high.
10-6... very doable... even if we drop out next 2....
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1. Browns record? 11-5
Above was my response to Dutch's Questions... woulda swore I was at 10-6 and no revision required, but I was one high.
10-6... very doable... even if we drop out next 2....
Above was my response to Dutch's Questions... woulda swore I was at 10-6 and no revision required, but I was one high.
10-6... very doable... even if we drop out next 2....
Yeah let's blame Dutch on the BROWNS disappointing start! It's all his fault with his damn questions.
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I don't know about a specific record, but I still think the Browns take the division.
The key obviously is beating the other teams in this division....which they have done so far. They haven't done well vs. the NFC West, but losing non-conference games is the least harmful defeats a team can have.
Even at this point the Browns DO have the best record in the division: 1-0. (Balt. is 2-1, Pitt 1-1, Cin 0-2)
And even at this point the Browns DO have the best conference record: 2-1 (Balt 3-2, Pitt. 2-2, Cin 0-3)
Baltimore has yet to play SF/Sea/LA Rams. Pitt has played...and lost to both the 49ers and Seahawks, as have the Browns.
And just figure this out: Things are going to change. I mean, while I didn't do it this week due to being away, If the playoffs started today, the Oakland Raiders would be in the playoffs. How many of you think that is going to happen?
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I don't know about a specific record, but I still think the Browns take the division.
The key obviously is beating the other teams in this division....which they have done so far. They haven't done well vs. the NFC West, but losing non-conference games is the least harmful defeats a team can have.
Even at this point the Browns DO have the best record in the division: 1-0. (Balt. is 2-1, Pitt 1-1, Cin 0-2)
And even at this point the Browns DO have the best conference record: 2-1 (Balt 3-2, Pitt. 2-2, Cin 0-3)
Baltimore has yet to play SF/Sea/LA Rams. Pitt has played...and lost to both the 49ers and Seahawks, as have the Browns.
And just figure this out: Things are going to change. I mean, while I didn't do it this week due to being away, If the playoffs started today, the Oakland Raiders would be in the playoffs. How many of you think that is going to happen?
I don't know about a specific record, but I still think the Browns take the division.
The key obviously is beating the other teams in this division....which they have done so far. They haven't done well vs. the NFC West, but losing non-conference games is the least harmful defeats a team can have.
At 5-2 and the nearest AFCN teams at 2-5 Baltimore can just finish 5-4 they can go 10-6 and almost guarantee a division win. The BROWNS or steelers would have to go 8-1 to tie that mark. The Bills have an inside track for an AFC wild card spot so there will probably be only one AFCN playoff team. If Baltimore falls flat it might be interesting.
The blackbirds remaining schedule:
NEW ENGLAND
at Cincinnati
HOUSTON
at LA Rams (Mon)
SAN FRANCISCO
at Buffalo
NY JETS (Thur)
at Cleveland
PITTSBURGHCleveland's remaining schedule:
at New England
at Denver
BUFFALO
PITTSBURGH (Thur)
MIAMI
at Pittsburgh
CINCINNATI
at Arizona
BALTIMORE
at CincinnatiWhile we're at it the Bills remaining schedule:
PHILADELPHIA
WASHINGTON
at Cleveland
at Miami
DENVER
at Dallas (Thanks)
BALTIMORE
at Pittsburgh
at New England
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Well.....see my "If the Playoffs started today" thread, and you will note that the Texans at 4-3 are currently the second WC. Browns only 1.5 games out of that. And also note that nothing has changed from my mention above that the Browns still have the best division record, and the best conference record. Going forward, they have to win their remaining 5 division games, and their other conf. games....of which, obviously, the toughest ones will be v. the Pats and Bills.
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Well.....see my "If the Playoffs started today" thread, and you will note that the Texans at 4-3 are currently the second WC. Browns only 1.5 games out of that. And also note that nothing has changed from my mention above that the Browns still have the best division record, and the best conference record. Going forward, they have to win their remaining 5 division games, and their other conf. games....of which, obviously, the toughest ones will be v. the Pats and Bills.
Well.....see my "If the Playoffs started today" thread, and you will note that the Texans at 4-3 are currently the second WC. Browns only 1.5 games out of that. And also note that nothing has changed from my mention above that the Browns still have the best division record, and the best conference record. Going forward, they have to win their remaining 5 division games, and their other conf. games....of which, obviously, the toughest ones will be v. the Pats and Bills.
I'm looking at the entire season and schedule and who might make it NOT just who has had the easiest schedule so far.
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Well.....see my "If the Playoffs started today" thread, and you will note that the Texans at 4-3 are currently the second WC. Browns only 1.5 games out of that. And also note that nothing has changed from my mention above that the Browns still have the best division record, and the best conference record. Going forward, they have to win their remaining 5 division games, and their other conf. games....of which, obviously, the toughest ones will be v. the Pats and Bills.
I'm looking at the entire season and schedule and who might make it NOT just who has had the easiest schedule so far.
I'm looking at the entire season and schedule and who might make it NOT just who has had the easiest schedule so far.
Yea, so isn't everyone. And when you look at the entire season and schedule, you will see that the Browns likely have had one of the toughest schedules so far, and that the remainder of their schedule is significantly easier....which, hopefully, means that they can amass many wins here in the rest of the season. And while I generally look at a snapshot of what things would be like right now.....I am still mindful of the fact that it is only what the standings are at the end of the season that is definitive as to who does or does not make the playoffs. Browns are on the outside looking in right now. They certainly have the opportunity to get in on the inside....if they do things right. (Questionable that they do things right? Sure....but I still think they have a fair chance)
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I'm looking at the entire season and schedule and who might make it NOT just who has had the easiest schedule so far.
Yea, so isn't everyone. And when you look at the entire season and schedule, you will see that the Browns likely have had one of the toughest schedules so far, and that the remainder of their schedule is significantly easier....which, hopefully, means that they can amass many wins here in the rest of the season. And while I generally look at a snapshot of what things would be like right now.....I am still mindful of the fact that it is only what the standings are at the end of the season that is definitive as to who does or does not make the playoffs. Browns are on the outside looking in right now. They certainly have the opportunity to get in on the inside....if they do things right. (Questionable that they do things right? Sure....but I still think they have a fair chance)
(Questionable that they do things right? Sure....but I still think they have a fair chance)
Right now they have two chances slim and none and at 2-5 have to play the undefeated odds on favorite to win the Superbowl on the road as +13 underdogs.
Fair chance? Try have to have the best game of the year to even try to save their season at 3-5 with half of the season gone.
GO BROWNS, "do you believe in miracles" tune in at 4:25 pm and find out. A win would be "spectacular"!
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6-10
We're undisciplined, we turn the ball over, we don't throw TD passes, we don't score DEFENSIVE TDs, and we don't make the plays when they matter the most. That's the biggest thing, right there. When we need to make something happen, when the game is ON THE LINE...we choke. Basically, this team has absolutely NO MAGIC. Zip, zilch, nada, nil. Let me ask you, how many people on this board felt like we were going to go down the field and score against the Seahawks to win the game? I think it's a safe bet that not many of us thought we were just going to march down the field and win. That right there...that expectation that something great is going to happen...THAT'S what is missing from our team. We still expect to step on our Johnson, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. We HOPE someone on the team will make a play instead of EXPECTING to make the play.
NOW...if "something" changes? If we find the "magic"? I'm telling you, we're a play or two away from winning some games, and I know that most teams in the NFL can say that, but you have to figure our big names are going to start making big plays. Garrett gets a strip-sack that's returned for a TD. OBJ one-handed grab for 7. Chubb breaking loose, Greedy pick-6...whatever. We start making those 2-3 great plays a game, and we can be something. We can win the division, but we have to stop beating ourselves and start stringing together wins. Now.
6-10
We're undisciplined, we turn the ball over, we don't throw TD passes, we don't score DEFENSIVE TDs, and we don't make the plays when they matter the most. That's the biggest thing, right there. When we need to make something happen, when the game is ON THE LINE...we choke. Basically, this team has absolutely NO MAGIC. Zip, zilch, nada, nil. Let me ask you, how many people on this board felt like we were going to go down the field and score against the Seahawks to win the game? I think it's a safe bet that not many of us thought we were just going to march down the field and win. That right there...that expectation that something great is going to happen...THAT'S what is missing from our team. We still expect to step on our Johnson, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. We HOPE someone on the team will make a play instead of EXPECTING to make the play.
NOW...if "something" changes? If we find the "magic"? I'm telling you, we're a play or two away from winning some games, and I know that most teams in the NFL can say that, but you have to figure our big names are going to start making big plays. Garrett gets a strip-sack that's returned for a TD. OBJ one-handed grab for 7. Chubb breaking loose, Greedy pick-6...whatever. We start making those 2-3 great plays a game, and we can be something. We can win the division, but we have to stop beating ourselves and start stringing together wins. Now.
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(Questionable that they do things right? Sure....but I still think they have a fair chance)
Right now they have two chances slim and none and at 2-5 have to play the undefeated odds on favorite to win the Superbowl on the road as +13 underdogs.
Fair chance? Try have to have the best game of the year to even try to save their season at 3-5 with half of the season gone.
GO BROWNS, "do you believe in miracles" tune in at 4:25 pm and find out. A win would be "spectacular"!
Right now they have two chances slim and none and at 2-5 have to play the undefeated odds on favorite to win the Superbowl on the road as +13 underdogs.
Fair chance? Try have to have the best game of the year to even try to save their season at 3-5 with half of the season gone.
GO BROWNS, "do you believe in miracles" tune in at 4:25 pm and find out. A win would be "spectacular"!
Don't tell me about the fucking odds....those odds don't mean shit....and they are likely dead fucking wrong. The key is to win against the division, and the conference.
They have 10 games remaining: 5 against Pitt/Cin/Balt. They also play Dolphins and Cardinals and Broncos. By all rights, they should win 7 of those 8 games....if they are who we think they are. And what we think they are is simply the better team than any of those opponents. And then they should get a split vs. Pats/Bills.
There really should be nothing "miraculous" about accomplishing all that. Not at all.
You said you look at the entire season, the entire schedule. Well, I just broke down the big picture for you.
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Really? When your slim hopes depends on someone else losing you're in trouble. 5-2 > 2-5 and hoping you go 7-2, 8-1 or 9-0.
The BROWNS who we all know and love have dug themselves an immense hole and have to be nearly perfect for the rest of the season.
Not my theory just the facts.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Right now they have two chances slim and none and at 2-5 have to play the undefeated odds on favorite to win the Superbowl on the road as +13 underdogs.
Fair chance? Try have to have the best game of the year to even try to save their season at 3-5 with half of the season gone.
GO BROWNS, "do you believe in miracles" tune in at 4:25 pm and find out. A win would be "spectacular"!
Don't tell me about the fucking odds....those odds don't mean shit....and they are likely dead fucking wrong. The key is to win against the division, and the conference.
They have 10 games remaining: 5 against Pitt/Cin/Balt. They also play Dolphins and Cardinals and Broncos. By all rights, they should win 7 of those 8 games....if they are who we think they are. And what we think they are is simply the better team than any of those opponents. And then they should get a split vs. Pats/Bills.
There really should be nothing "miraculous" about accomplishing all that. Not at all.
You said you look at the entire season, the entire schedule. Well, I just broke down the big picture for you.
Don't tell me about the fucking odds....
There really should be nothing "miraculous" about accomplishing all that. Not at all.
Listen junior yes I know that you are just slightly younger than me but sometimes you write like born yesterday. OH IS THAT A SONG TOO?
I hope that your miracle comes true and the BROWNS win the AFCN.
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Really? When your slim hopes depends on someone else losing you're in trouble. 5-2 > 2-5 and hoping you go 7-2, 8-1 or 9-0.
The BROWNS who we all know and love have dug themselves an immense hole and have to be nearly perfect for the rest of the season.
Not my theory just the facts.
Really? When your slim hopes depends on someone else losing you're in trouble. 5-2 > 2-5 and hoping you go 7-2, 8-1 or 9-0.
The BROWNS who we all know and love have dug themselves an immense hole and have to be nearly perfect for the rest of the season.
Not my theory just the facts.
Based on the talent they have on this team vs. the talent on the teams they play the remainder of this year......7-2 should be expected.
Lets here your analysis of why you think that should not be the case? The only thing that should temper that expectation is: Questionable coaching.
(but, you are right.....they cannot rely on the Ravens to lose.....but I am talking about making the playoffs, perhaps even as a Wildcard if they do what they are capable of doing.)
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Really? When your slim hopes depends on someone else losing you're in trouble. 5-2 > 2-5 and hoping you go 7-2, 8-1 or 9-0.
The BROWNS who we all know and love have dug themselves an immense hole and have to be nearly perfect for the rest of the season.
Not my theory just the facts.
Based on the talent they have on this team vs. the talent on the teams they play the remainder of this year......7-2 should be expected.
Lets here your analysis of why you think that should not be the case? The only thing that should temper that expectation is: Questionable coaching.
(but, you are right.....they cannot rely on the Ravens to lose.....but I am talking about making the playoffs, perhaps even as a Wildcard if they do what they are capable of doing.)
(but, you are right.....they cannot rely on the Ravens to lose.....but I am talking about making the playoffs, perhaps even as a Wildcard if they do what they are capable of doing.)
Well 1. They play NE and will likely end up 2-6
2. They need Buffalo to tank in a division with the NYJ and MIA.
SO how do you make anything at 2-6?
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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