***Patriots VS Browns Gameday Thread***
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crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
adding insult to injury, the refs were jackass corrupt sombeitches.
How the x can you call Landry for OI on that play?
The patriots wr shoves his hand into the Browns defender's facemask, shoves him away and catches the ball...where the x is the pass interference call?
etc etc etc. The Browns can't get to the playoffs with this offensive line. They need a star TE, LOT, ROG and ROT and a star safety in the draft. Where did Seals-Jones go to??? Meanwhile, the Brown's defense is playoff caliber. This offensive line is like throwing five marbles into a wall, and expecting them to all bounce back and land at the same spot. lol. ain't happenin.
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How does Joel get beat so bad on a play that he knows is going on right behind him...
I literally have no idea. Joel had a ROUGH game. And it's like I was saying, our STARS aren't making plays! I obviously know I was hard on Myles Garrett, but my point remains. Stats make plays when you need them and our simply vanish at the worst times. I don't get it. Joel completely blew it, and Baker should NOT have had to worry about that guy. And how the HECK did that ball stick to the DL?
I literally have no idea. Joel had a ROUGH game. And it's like I was saying, our STARS aren't making plays! I obviously know I was hard on Myles Garrett, but my point remains. Stats make plays when you need them and our simply vanish at the worst times. I don't get it. Joel completely blew it, and Baker should NOT have had to worry about that guy. And how the HECK did that ball stick to the DL?
I think that Bitonio was having trouble blocking his guy, while trying to help the lt. That's just a guess. I'd go back and rewatch the game, but... but I can always find some farm work to do that would be more fun.....
"sigh"
1st Round: trade down, get a star LOT
2nd Round: a star OG
3rd Round: a big, quick ROT
Not necessarily in that order.
crap. lol
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I didn’t think our Oline played that badly. If you’ve watched the Pats in the first 7 weeks they’ve played well upfront. We moved the ball really well in comparison to others.
We weren’t disciplined and we didn’t execute at key moments. The three turnovers were back breakers. And there you have it two score game.
Point fingers? the WRs let us down.
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I feel bad for Nick Chubb. 2 fumbles. One freak foot kick on the ball by his own man....and the dreaded 'guy from behind' making a good round-house onto the ball.
Higgins is in Freddie's dog house. He came in for Landry when he got dinged, made a nice catch but was flagged for pushing off, and then went back into the dog house.
Mayfield has to take blame for handing the ball to the defensive lineman. I know he's focusing on tossing it where Landry can get it on the run.....but he HAS to see the guy breaking through right in front of him. That's like the ONE THING you have to look out for on a play like that, no?
The Browns fought all day and showed that they have a team.........but you cannot give the Patriots 3 turnovers, and commit 13 penalties, and still hope to win.
Long, slow deep breaths......until calm......and move on to Denver.
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We lost because of the 1st quarter. It's simple as that. Very few teams overcome a 17 point deficit, and we are not ready to comeback from huge point differentials. In Foxborough against New England? Game was already over.
But today they played, they kept fighting and made some plays. Baker played better (nice audible on the Harris TD), Chubb is the best RB in the league and defense played well. I'm glad Williams and Ward got back on the field, they improve the team.
Lossing sucks, but I didn't expect a win. After a laughable first quarter (Baker might have overtaken the buttfumble with that shovel INT) we played face to face against the best team in the league.
It only shows how important turnovers and details (mistakes, penalties) are.
Freddie needs to improve some decision making or he is not going to have a long career as a HC, though.
Three passes to start the game (3rd on an empty set), two 'how-the-f-do-you-expect-to-win-that-challenge' and Baker throwing a pass with 1 second left for halftime on our field are some of the decisions that enrage me. Because they are 'game IQ' decisions, not playcalls.
Because they are 'game IQ' decisions, not playcalls.
agree with every bit of your post ? just not the right time with 4 pages of drunk'in headhunters on here
Don't look!
^^simply piss poor play design with worse scheme design..Is that on Baker? I think not..1) Bakes job is to get the ball to a spot on time..Not on sight.. 2) Who in their right mind pulls a new LT while pulling Landry from slot or end at same time? 3) do they get tangled up?, poorly timed? Heck, who can tell with this angle? 4) Joel gets bull dawged cause two defensive trains can jump Joel's outside gap with both our players vacating.. This Defense played it's ass off to win..These kind of offensive schemes added to losing this game..imo, Fred has a real disconnect going on with offensive position coaching & Play Quality Control cord's.. Edit--Fred also has a real issue with the buzz down replay guy in his Booth..in the tavern I told the mystery nerd to JUmP!! (parachute not needed)
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Ironic that one of our best Oline men, Bitonio was manhandled by the Patriots D line and caused the 1st fumble and contributed to Baker's first interception. As I predicted before the game, the better coach won outright even Chubb's second fumble was a reflection of good coaching, the Patriots cornerback didn't give up on the play and tomahawked the ball out.
The problem going forward is that we keep handing teams the game, which is why I doubt we'll win the majority of games in this easier part of the schedule.
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Ironic that one of our best Oline men, Bitonio was manhandled by the Patriots D line and caused the 1st fumble and contributed to Baker's first interception. As I predicted before the game, the better coach won outright even Chubb's second fumble was a reflection of good coaching, the Patriots cornerback didn't give up on the play and tomahawked the ball out.
The problem going forward is that we keep handing teams the game, which is why I doubt we'll win the majority of games in this easier part of the schedule.
The problem going forward is that we keep handing teams the game, which is why I doubt we'll win the majority of games in this easier part of the schedule.
The problem is, losing begets losing. Doesn't matter who you play, if you're used to losing, that's what you will do. Safe to say we're used to losing, so you'd be a fool to think we'd beat ANYONE besides the Dolphins, and we can VERY easily lose to them. See, we EXPECT to fail. We expect to drop the important pass, to give up the big screen pass, to fumble it away, or whatever. Losing begets losing.
I just watched the game "highlights" and it looks like I was totally correct. Myles Garrett does jack crap all night long, and then gets his 1 sack when the game is over. I'm telling you, that guy gets more worthless sacks than anyone. As good as he is, he's the king of getting a sack when it doesn't matter. Where was he on the Edelman TD catch when Brady had an hour? How about two weeks ago when Russell Wilson had forever to throw? Nope, Garrett is nowhere to be found. Ever seen Garrett deflect a pass on 3rd down? Me either. Even our stars don't play like stars. Oh, and you saw the vaunted OBJ have yet another drop today. Know who leads the team in drops? You guessed it, OBJ.
We're undisciplined, we're boring, we're far from explosive, we can't score points, we turn it over and we can't force turnovers. We're not just bad, we're awful.
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Well, the NFL doesn't have all the money in the world. Imagine if they had to pay for plane tickets and luggage for all 53 members on the team... 45, now that's conceivable. The NFL is not made of money.
Well, the NFL doesn't have all the money in the world. Imagine if they had to pay for plane tickets and luggage for all 53 members on the team... 45, now that's conceivable. The NFL is not made of money.
Idjit....they pay for all the members of the roster to fly now.
Are you being satirical..then use pink.....or are you just that incredibly obtuse?
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The problem going forward is that we keep handing teams the game, which is why I doubt we'll win the majority of games in this easier part of the schedule.
The problem is, losing begets losing. Doesn't matter who you play, if you're used to losing, that's what you will do. Safe to say we're used to losing, so you'd be a fool to think we'd beat ANYONE besides the Dolphins, and we can VERY easily lose to them. See, we EXPECT to fail. We expect to drop the important pass, to give up the big screen pass, to fumble it away, or whatever. Losing begets losing.
I just watched the game "highlights" and it looks like I was totally correct. Myles Garrett does jack crap all night long, and then gets his 1 sack when the game is over. I'm telling you, that guy gets more worthless sacks than anyone. As good as he is, he's the king of getting a sack when it doesn't matter. Where was he on the Edelman TD catch when Brady had an hour? How about two weeks ago when Russell Wilson had forever to throw? Nope, Garrett is nowhere to be found. Ever seen Garrett deflect a pass on 3rd down? Me either. Even our stars don't play like stars. Oh, and you saw the vaunted OBJ have yet another drop today. Know who leads the team in drops? You guessed it, OBJ.
We're undisciplined, we're boring, we're far from explosive, we can't score points, we turn it over and we can't force turnovers. We're not just bad, we're awful.
The problem is, losing begets losing. Doesn't matter who you play, if you're used to losing, that's what you will do. Safe to say we're used to losing, so you'd be a fool to think we'd beat ANYONE besides the Dolphins, and we can VERY easily lose to them. See, we EXPECT to fail. We expect to drop the important pass, to give up the big screen pass, to fumble it away, or whatever. Losing begets losing.
I just watched the game "highlights" and it looks like I was totally correct. Myles Garrett does jack crap all night long, and then gets his 1 sack when the game is over. I'm telling you, that guy gets more worthless sacks than anyone. As good as he is, he's the king of getting a sack when it doesn't matter. Where was he on the Edelman TD catch when Brady had an hour? How about two weeks ago when Russell Wilson had forever to throw? Nope, Garrett is nowhere to be found. Ever seen Garrett deflect a pass on 3rd down? Me either. Even our stars don't play like stars. Oh, and you saw the vaunted OBJ have yet another drop today. Know who leads the team in drops? You guessed it, OBJ.
We're undisciplined, we're boring, we're far from explosive, we can't score points, we turn it over and we can't force turnovers. We're not just bad, we're awful.
Myles has always been overrated IMO. I've never seen him just dominate a game like actual elite defenders do.
On the plus side.... according to the fanboys, Baker will easily drop 5-6 tds on Miami since it's so easy to do.
Sadly, I think the truth is that teams like Pitt, Miami, Denver, AZ.... they're all circling the Browns as the easy W on their schedules.
LOL The Browns are pretty much the opposite of Ohio State right now.
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Don't look!
Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
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Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
Browns still good, right hoorta
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crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
adding insult to injury, the refs were jackass corrupt sombeitches.
How the x can you call Landry for OI on that play?
The patriots wr shoves his hand into the Browns defender's facemask, shoves him away and catches the ball...where the x is the pass interference call?
etc etc etc. The Browns can't get to the playoffs with this offensive line. They need a star TE, LOT, ROG and ROT and a star safety in the draft. Where did Seals-Jones go to??? Meanwhile, the Brown's defense is playoff caliber. This offensive line is like throwing five marbles into a wall, and expecting them to all bounce back and land at the same spot. lol. ain't happenin.
crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
adding insult to injury, the refs were jackass corrupt sombeitches.
How the x can you call Landry for OI on that play?
The patriots wr shoves his hand into the Browns defender's facemask, shoves him away and catches the ball...where the x is the pass interference call?
etc etc etc. The Browns can't get to the playoffs with this offensive line. They need a star TE, LOT, ROG and ROT and a star safety in the draft. Where did Seals-Jones go to??? Meanwhile, the Brown's defense is playoff caliber. This offensive line is like throwing five marbles into a wall, and expecting them to all bounce back and land at the same spot. lol. ain't happenin.
defense is not playoff caliber.....yet.....we need playmakers other than garrett.....db's that can pick off a pass and return it for a td....lb's that can strip the ball and return fumbles into td's...etc etc...lets just say ala the pats....everyone is blaming the fumbles and boy do we have a dumbass hc for this loss....what i saw was ward dropping a sure int in the endzone that really could have made a difference if he picks that one off.....i don't know where to start with this team, but right now we are one of the worse teams in the nfl....and for all of you thinking that now we have the weak part of our schedule ahead of us.....think twice....
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Look, reason I was hardly mad was that the Browns, good coaching or not, were going to have to get some flukes to win yesterday. We were going to need the refs to not get flag happy, which they did.
BB is now 29-0 against QB's 24 years old or younger. As much as I disdain the Patriots, watching them operate is almost hypnotic. All things considered, I thought Baker looked pretty good out there and you see the talent on the squad just begging to get used. Chubb had a truly fluke fumble, and one bad one for sure but looks incredible out there. Unfortunately I just think our coaching is going to hold the potential way down.
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Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
Come on man, I know I didn’t expect them to win, and not many people truly did, but it’s the WAY we lost the game that’s so unsettling. The awful turnovers on three plays in a row? Jesus. The seemingly infinite penalties after our coach says over and over that we don’t practice penalties?
Yeah, I didn’t expect to win, but I was HOPING for a better performance. I’m so tired of people laughing at our team, and that’s exactly what is happening again.
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Browns still good, right hoorta
Just very unlucky.
Come on man, I know I didn’t expect them to win, and not many people truly did, but it’s the WAY we lost the game that’s so unsettling. The awful turnovers on three plays in a row? Jesus. The seemingly infinite penalties after our coach says over and over that we don’t practice penalties?
Yeah, I didn’t expect to win, but I was HOPING for a better performance. I’m so tired of people laughing at our team, and that’s exactly what is happening again.
And how many of those turnovers were flukes? OBJ should have tackled the guy trying to strip Chubb. Yeah spotting the Patriots a couple scores at home = game over.
I said that we had to play a clean game to win, and we didn't.
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Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
that excuse works for me so....lol
I think the Browns wanted to win so badly to prove themselves they choked early the game, made mistakes. I think Chubb wanted to carry them to a win, took it all on his shoulders, and fumbled twice. that's all she wrote.
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The problem going forward is that we keep handing teams the game, which is why I doubt we'll win the majority of games in this easier part of the schedule.
The problem is, losing begets losing. Doesn't matter who you play, if you're used to losing, that's what you will do. Safe to say we're used to losing, so you'd be a fool to think we'd beat ANYONE besides the Dolphins, and we can VERY easily lose to them. See, we EXPECT to fail. We expect to drop the important pass, to give up the big screen pass, to fumble it away, or whatever. Losing begets losing.
I just watched the game "highlights" and it looks like I was totally correct. Myles Garrett does jack crap all night long, and then gets his 1 sack when the game is over. I'm telling you, that guy gets more worthless sacks than anyone. As good as he is, he's the king of getting a sack when it doesn't matter. Where was he on the Edelman TD catch when Brady had an hour? How about two weeks ago when Russell Wilson had forever to throw? Nope, Garrett is nowhere to be found. Ever seen Garrett deflect a pass on 3rd down? Me either. Even our stars don't play like stars. Oh, and you saw the vaunted OBJ have yet another drop today. Know who leads the team in drops? You guessed it, OBJ.
We're undisciplined, we're boring, we're far from explosive, we can't score points, we turn it over and we can't force turnovers. We're not just bad, we're awful.
I just watched the game "highlights" and it looks like I was totally correct. Myles Garrett does jack crap all night long, and then gets his 1 sack when the game is over. I'm telling you, that guy gets more worthless sacks than anyone. As good as he is, he's the king of getting a sack when it doesn't matter. Where was he on the Edelman TD catch when Brady had an hour? How about two weeks ago when Russell Wilson had forever to throw? Nope, Garrett is nowhere to be found. Ever seen Garrett deflect a pass on 3rd down? Me either. Even our stars don't play like stars. Oh, and you saw the vaunted OBJ have yet another drop today. Know who leads the team in drops? You guessed it, OBJ.
You watched the game. You made several comments during the game proving you watched it for example "great now it looks like Landry broke his collarbone" or something to the effect. Why do you play this thing up every week where you say you aren't watching the game because you can't take any more but you are very clearly watching the game.
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Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
How does Joel get beat so bad on a play that he knows is going on right behind him...
How does Joel get beat so bad on a play that he knows is going on right behind him...
Bitonio doesn't even get credit for causing Chubb to fumble.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
One of the first games I’ve watched in a long time where a team has “won” in the trenches and lost the game. Penalties turnovers and overall stupidity will do that. It’s our #1 problem. I don’t think it is mainly tied to personnel which it usually can be tied to players.
I thought we controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides. Brady was magnificent but was hurried often or throwing stuff away all game when he wasn’t. Credit to our D. I still don’t know why many of you come on here and bash the Oline. Did Chubb not have enough space? Did baker have some time on most occasions?
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Bitonio doesn't even get credit for causing Chubb to fumble.
I watched that play again.... Bitonio is lucky he is still walking today.... that was a nasty hit to the knees
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