***Patriots VS Browns Gameday Thread***
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The problem going forward is that we keep handing teams the game, which is why I doubt we'll win the majority of games in this easier part of the schedule.
The problem is, losing begets losing. Doesn't matter who you play, if you're used to losing, that's what you will do. Safe to say we're used to losing, so you'd be a fool to think we'd beat ANYONE besides the Dolphins, and we can VERY easily lose to them. See, we EXPECT to fail. We expect to drop the important pass, to give up the big screen pass, to fumble it away, or whatever. Losing begets losing.
I just watched the game "highlights" and it looks like I was totally correct. Myles Garrett does jack crap all night long, and then gets his 1 sack when the game is over. I'm telling you, that guy gets more worthless sacks than anyone. As good as he is, he's the king of getting a sack when it doesn't matter. Where was he on the Edelman TD catch when Brady had an hour? How about two weeks ago when Russell Wilson had forever to throw? Nope, Garrett is nowhere to be found. Ever seen Garrett deflect a pass on 3rd down? Me either. Even our stars don't play like stars. Oh, and you saw the vaunted OBJ have yet another drop today. Know who leads the team in drops? You guessed it, OBJ.
We're undisciplined, we're boring, we're far from explosive, we can't score points, we turn it over and we can't force turnovers. We're not just bad, we're awful.
The problem is, losing begets losing. Doesn't matter who you play, if you're used to losing, that's what you will do. Safe to say we're used to losing, so you'd be a fool to think we'd beat ANYONE besides the Dolphins, and we can VERY easily lose to them. See, we EXPECT to fail. We expect to drop the important pass, to give up the big screen pass, to fumble it away, or whatever. Losing begets losing.
I just watched the game "highlights" and it looks like I was totally correct. Myles Garrett does jack crap all night long, and then gets his 1 sack when the game is over. I'm telling you, that guy gets more worthless sacks than anyone. As good as he is, he's the king of getting a sack when it doesn't matter. Where was he on the Edelman TD catch when Brady had an hour? How about two weeks ago when Russell Wilson had forever to throw? Nope, Garrett is nowhere to be found. Ever seen Garrett deflect a pass on 3rd down? Me either. Even our stars don't play like stars. Oh, and you saw the vaunted OBJ have yet another drop today. Know who leads the team in drops? You guessed it, OBJ.
We're undisciplined, we're boring, we're far from explosive, we can't score points, we turn it over and we can't force turnovers. We're not just bad, we're awful.
Myles has always been overrated IMO. I've never seen him just dominate a game like actual elite defenders do.
On the plus side.... according to the fanboys, Baker will easily drop 5-6 tds on Miami since it's so easy to do.
Sadly, I think the truth is that teams like Pitt, Miami, Denver, AZ.... they're all circling the Browns as the easy W on their schedules.
LOL The Browns are pretty much the opposite of Ohio State right now.
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Don't look!
Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
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Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
Browns still good, right hoorta
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crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
adding insult to injury, the refs were jackass corrupt sombeitches.
How the x can you call Landry for OI on that play?
The patriots wr shoves his hand into the Browns defender's facemask, shoves him away and catches the ball...where the x is the pass interference call?
etc etc etc. The Browns can't get to the playoffs with this offensive line. They need a star TE, LOT, ROG and ROT and a star safety in the draft. Where did Seals-Jones go to??? Meanwhile, the Brown's defense is playoff caliber. This offensive line is like throwing five marbles into a wall, and expecting them to all bounce back and land at the same spot. lol. ain't happenin.
crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
adding insult to injury, the refs were jackass corrupt sombeitches.
How the x can you call Landry for OI on that play?
The patriots wr shoves his hand into the Browns defender's facemask, shoves him away and catches the ball...where the x is the pass interference call?
etc etc etc. The Browns can't get to the playoffs with this offensive line. They need a star TE, LOT, ROG and ROT and a star safety in the draft. Where did Seals-Jones go to??? Meanwhile, the Brown's defense is playoff caliber. This offensive line is like throwing five marbles into a wall, and expecting them to all bounce back and land at the same spot. lol. ain't happenin.
defense is not playoff caliber.....yet.....we need playmakers other than garrett.....db's that can pick off a pass and return it for a td....lb's that can strip the ball and return fumbles into td's...etc etc...lets just say ala the pats....everyone is blaming the fumbles and boy do we have a dumbass hc for this loss....what i saw was ward dropping a sure int in the endzone that really could have made a difference if he picks that one off.....i don't know where to start with this team, but right now we are one of the worse teams in the nfl....and for all of you thinking that now we have the weak part of our schedule ahead of us.....think twice....
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Look, reason I was hardly mad was that the Browns, good coaching or not, were going to have to get some flukes to win yesterday. We were going to need the refs to not get flag happy, which they did.
BB is now 29-0 against QB's 24 years old or younger. As much as I disdain the Patriots, watching them operate is almost hypnotic. All things considered, I thought Baker looked pretty good out there and you see the talent on the squad just begging to get used. Chubb had a truly fluke fumble, and one bad one for sure but looks incredible out there. Unfortunately I just think our coaching is going to hold the potential way down.
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Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
Come on man, I know I didn’t expect them to win, and not many people truly did, but it’s the WAY we lost the game that’s so unsettling. The awful turnovers on three plays in a row? Jesus. The seemingly infinite penalties after our coach says over and over that we don’t practice penalties?
Yeah, I didn’t expect to win, but I was HOPING for a better performance. I’m so tired of people laughing at our team, and that’s exactly what is happening again.
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Browns still good, right hoorta
Just very unlucky.
Come on man, I know I didn’t expect them to win, and not many people truly did, but it’s the WAY we lost the game that’s so unsettling. The awful turnovers on three plays in a row? Jesus. The seemingly infinite penalties after our coach says over and over that we don’t practice penalties?
Yeah, I didn’t expect to win, but I was HOPING for a better performance. I’m so tired of people laughing at our team, and that’s exactly what is happening again.
And how many of those turnovers were flukes? OBJ should have tackled the guy trying to strip Chubb. Yeah spotting the Patriots a couple scores at home = game over.
I said that we had to play a clean game to win, and we didn't.
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Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
You didn't expect the Browns to win, so just stop complaining.
crap. I just knew I'd lose my five bucks in that bet. But not in a driving rain, the fumbles etc.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
It wasn't a driving rain Cal, more like a continuous mist.
that excuse works for me so....lol
I think the Browns wanted to win so badly to prove themselves they choked early the game, made mistakes. I think Chubb wanted to carry them to a win, took it all on his shoulders, and fumbled twice. that's all she wrote.
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The problem going forward is that we keep handing teams the game, which is why I doubt we'll win the majority of games in this easier part of the schedule.
The problem is, losing begets losing. Doesn't matter who you play, if you're used to losing, that's what you will do. Safe to say we're used to losing, so you'd be a fool to think we'd beat ANYONE besides the Dolphins, and we can VERY easily lose to them. See, we EXPECT to fail. We expect to drop the important pass, to give up the big screen pass, to fumble it away, or whatever. Losing begets losing.
I just watched the game "highlights" and it looks like I was totally correct. Myles Garrett does jack crap all night long, and then gets his 1 sack when the game is over. I'm telling you, that guy gets more worthless sacks than anyone. As good as he is, he's the king of getting a sack when it doesn't matter. Where was he on the Edelman TD catch when Brady had an hour? How about two weeks ago when Russell Wilson had forever to throw? Nope, Garrett is nowhere to be found. Ever seen Garrett deflect a pass on 3rd down? Me either. Even our stars don't play like stars. Oh, and you saw the vaunted OBJ have yet another drop today. Know who leads the team in drops? You guessed it, OBJ.
We're undisciplined, we're boring, we're far from explosive, we can't score points, we turn it over and we can't force turnovers. We're not just bad, we're awful.
I just watched the game "highlights" and it looks like I was totally correct. Myles Garrett does jack crap all night long, and then gets his 1 sack when the game is over. I'm telling you, that guy gets more worthless sacks than anyone. As good as he is, he's the king of getting a sack when it doesn't matter. Where was he on the Edelman TD catch when Brady had an hour? How about two weeks ago when Russell Wilson had forever to throw? Nope, Garrett is nowhere to be found. Ever seen Garrett deflect a pass on 3rd down? Me either. Even our stars don't play like stars. Oh, and you saw the vaunted OBJ have yet another drop today. Know who leads the team in drops? You guessed it, OBJ.
You watched the game. You made several comments during the game proving you watched it for example "great now it looks like Landry broke his collarbone" or something to the effect. Why do you play this thing up every week where you say you aren't watching the game because you can't take any more but you are very clearly watching the game.
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Lmao! Too late! Listen, you guys know I love my Browns, but holy shit I'm enraged right now. How the HECK does that happen?! On Chubb's first fumble, was that a freaking FOOT that knocked the ball out? Are you effing kidding me? On the second fumble, can we JUST recover ONE fumble this year?! Jesus, get the ball!! OMFG.
AHHHHHH! ???
How does Joel get beat so bad on a play that he knows is going on right behind him...
How does Joel get beat so bad on a play that he knows is going on right behind him...
Bitonio doesn't even get credit for causing Chubb to fumble.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
One of the first games I’ve watched in a long time where a team has “won” in the trenches and lost the game. Penalties turnovers and overall stupidity will do that. It’s our #1 problem. I don’t think it is mainly tied to personnel which it usually can be tied to players.
I thought we controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides. Brady was magnificent but was hurried often or throwing stuff away all game when he wasn’t. Credit to our D. I still don’t know why many of you come on here and bash the Oline. Did Chubb not have enough space? Did baker have some time on most occasions?
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Bitonio doesn't even get credit for causing Chubb to fumble.
I watched that play again.... Bitonio is lucky he is still walking today.... that was a nasty hit to the knees
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One of the first games I’ve watched in a long time where a team has “won” in the trenches and lost the game. Penalties turnovers and overall stupidity will do that. It’s our #1 problem. I don’t think it is mainly tied to personnel which it usually can be tied to players.
I thought we controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides. Brady was magnificent but was hurried often or throwing stuff away all game when he wasn’t. Credit to our D. I still don’t know why many of you come on here and bash the Oline. Did Chubb not have enough space? Did baker have some time on most occasions?
One of the first games I’ve watched in a long time where a team has “won” in the trenches and lost the game. Penalties turnovers and overall stupidity will do that. It’s our #1 problem. I don’t think it is mainly tied to personnel which it usually can be tied to players.
I thought we controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides. Brady was magnificent but was hurried often or throwing stuff away all game when he wasn’t. Credit to our D. I still don’t know why many of you come on here and bash the Oline. Did Chubb not have enough space? Did baker have some time on most occasions?
Yeah I don't get the constant oline bashing. Baker has the 2nd highest time to throw in the league and chubb is top 5 in ypg. I'd say they are doing their job just fine. I really hope ward and greedy stay healthy because if that's the defense the browns get the rest of the year that will be plenty good enough to win games if the offense doesn't gift the opposing team 14 points and take at least 3 (if not 7) off the board by fumbling in red zone. Though I don't completely blame chubb. It was just a freak fumble the first time and a great play the second one.
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Browns still good, right hoorta
Just very unlucky.
Come on man, I know I didn’t expect them to win, and not many people truly did, but it’s the WAY we lost the game that’s so unsettling. The awful turnovers on three plays in a row? Jesus. The seemingly infinite penalties after our coach says over and over that we don’t practice penalties?
Yeah, I didn’t expect to win, but I was HOPING for a better performance. I’m so tired of people laughing at our team, and that’s exactly what is happening again.
And how many of those turnovers were flukes? OBJ should have tackled the guy trying to strip Chubb. Yeah spotting the Patriots a couple scores at home = game over.
I said that we had to play a clean game to win, and we didn't.
And how many of those turnovers were flukes? OBJ should have tackled the guy trying to strip Chubb. Yeah spotting the Patriots a couple scores at home = game over.
I said that we had to play a clean game to win, and we didn't.
Yep, and you were totally right. Watching the "highlights" again, it's absolutely staggering to see the amount of "wtf plays" we had, LOL. And god forbid a fumble bounce to our guy, or we somehow cover it up. It's crazy...we're simply not making plays. For instance, Denzel Ward drops that INT in the end zone. Granted it only would've saved 3 points, but come on man! Somebody make a play. Do something special. We need our stars to SHINE!
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I just watched the game "highlights" and it looks like I was totally correct. Myles Garrett does jack crap all night long, and then gets his 1 sack when the game is over. I'm telling you, that guy gets more worthless sacks than anyone. As good as he is, he's the king of getting a sack when it doesn't matter. Where was he on the Edelman TD catch when Brady had an hour? How about two weeks ago when Russell Wilson had forever to throw? Nope, Garrett is nowhere to be found. Ever seen Garrett deflect a pass on 3rd down? Me either. Even our stars don't play like stars. Oh, and you saw the vaunted OBJ have yet another drop today. Know who leads the team in drops? You guessed it, OBJ.
You watched the game. You made several comments during the game proving you watched it for example "great now it looks like Landry broke his collarbone" or something to the effect. Why do you play this thing up every week where you say you aren't watching the game because you can't take any more but you are very clearly watching the game.
You watched the game. You made several comments during the game proving you watched it for example "great now it looks like Landry broke his collarbone" or something to the effect. Why do you play this thing up every week where you say you aren't watching the game because you can't take any more but you are very clearly watching the game.
I got to watch a handful of plays from my car on the interstate. I didn't get to "watch the game". I tried to stream a little bit of the game when I got good enough reception.
Make no mistake, I WANTED to watch the game even though we all probably knew it wouldn't be a great outcome.
I’m definitely watching next week, and here’s a plot twist for you:
The Browns are not only going to win, but we’re going to win by 14+. It’s 6 days away, but the weather appears to be absolutely perfect. It’ll be clear and cool, and our speed will be on full display. We’re finally going to have a game where we DON’T beat ourselves, our QB finds multiple deep receivers, and Chubb is going to rush for only 30 yards in the first half, but then destroy them in the 2nd for 100 more.
Want more? Denzel Ward gets his first pick-6, Garrett gets a strip-sack, and Baker throws for 350 yards with 3 TDs and NO PICKS.
We've been downright awful, and that's just how it's been. We've had bad luck, and we haven't made any GOOD luck. But even though we've played so poorly, I don't think we're REALLY as bad as we've shown. Not that we're a top 5 team or anything, but I have a feeling that we're going to kick the crap out of someone, and I think it's going to be Sunday. That' being said, if we continue to have the penalties and turnovers...well...it's going to suck for everyone because the "fire the coach" and all that other crap will start to take over, and the season will be lost. We've seen it too many times and we all hate it. Have to win Sunday, and I think we do with flying colors.
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That was the hardest game to watch. Where I live I do not get to see the Browns play that often so I was intrigued in watching them. I couldn't say I was excited considering the poor play I seen in the past few weeks. The Browns performance reminded me of my son's high school football team this season, considering his starting team is comprised of mainly freshmen and sophomore. Their first 3 games resulted in over 600 yards in penalties levied against my son's team which pretty much handed the game over to the opponents. In fact, it took my son's team three tries to kick off on the first game because of being off sides. Those feelings of embarrassment came back when I watched the game on Sunday. I was absolutely astounded by the fumbles and poor plays and the general lack of hustle particularly with the defensive back field, I saw Williams pull up on tackling someone and just sort of jogged behind the Patriot receiver resulting in the receiver making an additional 10 year...what a shame. I realize he just came off injury but he was made to look like a fool. Also the Patriots had NO RESPECT for the Browns defense, what team, goes for it with on 4th and 7 and gets 12 yards. NO RESPECT. This team is spiraling into it's old ways where referees will drop a flag out of spite because they have no respect for the Browns. Like I've always say regarding the Browns "Winners Win and Losers Lose". This will be another long season with all our wins behind us. All I can say is wait till next year!!!!!
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Interesting enough, going back and watching some of the highlights. You can see the film work from the previous games the coaches are putting in. They were ready for some of the zero blitz pressure NE was going to send and initially responded by the OBJ screens. They didn't wait until late game either. Those were loaded and ready to go. So I see the forethought, creativity and premptive answers to in game questions being worked on during the week.
But what were getting along with it is the maddening combination of sloppiness, losing our heads (both players and coaches) and (again, both players and coaches) lack of situational awareness.
Screams of young Head Coach + Young QB.
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How is it that Garret is being held EVERY PLAY, even went as far as having his helmet ripped off his head and NO CALL yet they flag Garret for hands to the face for touching a players shoulder pad? These refs need to be killed
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