***Browns @ Broncos Game Day Thread***
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I really do wonder what this team would be if we just kept the ship sailing with Gregg as HC and freddie as OC. I don't think we'd be undefeated, but I'm 100% sure there'd be at least 2 more wins under the belt.
I get the regression with Baker, but I actually think he's looked better the last two games. If I were to put a % on it right now, this situation is 80% on Freddie. Yesterday he finally got that Pat Shurmer deer in the headlights look after the failed challenge (which was bullshit, but still). You saw a guy who truly realized he had no business being in charge. I could write a novel on the little things, but discipline is right at the top. Knowing OBJ and Landry were going to get nailed for the shoes is a lack of leadership to tell them not to, for example. I still believe in Dorsey big time. You can see the talent of these dudes seething to be unleashed, but the play design and coaching is just simply inept.
Anyway fellas, I'll be off line a good bit the next few weeks and big time for next several months. I'm 6 weeks away from first time dad status and it's time to get everything ready. I'm actually glad I have a good reason not to watch this clown car for a little bit!
Anyway fellas, I'll be off line a good bit the next few weeks and big time for next several months. I'm 6 weeks away from first time dad status and it's time to get everything ready. I'm actually glad I have a good reason not to watch this clown car for a little bit!
Congrats my man! Parenting is a helluva rewarding ride.
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I really do wonder what this team would be if we just kept the ship sailing with Gregg as HC and freddie as OC. I don't think we'd be undefeated, but I'm 100% sure there'd be at least 2 more wins under the belt.
I get the regression with Baker, but I actually think he's looked better the last two games. If I were to put a % on it right now, this situation is 80% on Freddie. Yesterday he finally got that Pat Shurmer deer in the headlights look after the failed challenge (which was bullshit, but still). You saw a guy who truly realized he had no business being in charge. I could write a novel on the little things, but discipline is right at the top. Knowing OBJ and Landry were going to get nailed for the shoes is a lack of leadership to tell them not to, for example. I still believe in Dorsey big time. You can see the talent of these dudes seething to be unleashed, but the play design and coaching is just simply inept.
Anyway fellas, I'll be off line a good bit the next few weeks and big time for next several months. I'm 6 weeks away from first time dad status and it's time to get everything ready. I'm actually glad I have a good reason not to watch this clown car for a little bit!
I really do wonder what this team would be if we just kept the ship sailing with Gregg as HC and freddie as OC. I don't think we'd be undefeated, but I'm 100% sure there'd be at least 2 more wins under the belt.
I get the regression with Baker, but I actually think he's looked better the last two games. If I were to put a % on it right now, this situation is 80% on Freddie. Yesterday he finally got that Pat Shurmer deer in the headlights look after the failed challenge (which was bullshit, but still). You saw a guy who truly realized he had no business being in charge. I could write a novel on the little things, but discipline is right at the top. Knowing OBJ and Landry were going to get nailed for the shoes is a lack of leadership to tell them not to, for example. I still believe in Dorsey big time. You can see the talent of these dudes seething to be unleashed, but the play design and coaching is just simply inept.
Anyway fellas, I'll be off line a good bit the next few weeks and big time for next several months. I'm 6 weeks away from first time dad status and it's time to get everything ready. I'm actually glad I have a good reason not to watch this clown car for a little bit!
Congratulations on the first dad status..
Even though the odds were they were not going to reverse the bad spot with Mayfield at the 5 yard line I still thought Kitchens had to challenge it and hope there was a good camera angle to confirm what we knew that it was a bad spot. If they get that call and go into score it likely would have changed the whole complexion of the game.
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I really do wonder what this team would be if we just kept the ship sailing with Gregg as HC and freddie as OC. I don't think we'd be undefeated, but I'm 100% sure there'd be at least 2 more wins under the belt.
I get the regression with Baker, but I actually think he's looked better the last two games. If I were to put a % on it right now, this situation is 80% on Freddie. Yesterday he finally got that Pat Shurmer deer in the headlights look after the failed challenge (which was bullshit, but still). You saw a guy who truly realized he had no business being in charge. I could write a novel on the little things, but discipline is right at the top. Knowing OBJ and Landry were going to get nailed for the shoes is a lack of leadership to tell them not to, for example. I still believe in Dorsey big time. You can see the talent of these dudes seething to be unleashed, but the play design and coaching is just simply inept.
Anyway fellas, I'll be off line a good bit the next few weeks and big time for next several months. I'm 6 weeks away from first time dad status and it's time to get everything ready. I'm actually glad I have a good reason not to watch this clown car for a little bit!
Congratulations on the first dad status..
Even though the odds were they were not going to reverse the bad spot with Mayfield at the 5 yard line I still thought Kitchens had to challenge it and hope there was a good camera angle to confirm what we knew that it was a bad spot. If they get that call and go into score it likely would have changed the whole complexion of the game.
If they get that call and go into score it likely would have changed the whole complexion of the game.
The Browns get shafted all the time by bad calls. Freddy got tight and put the game in the refs hands by playing “4 down territory” ball while only down 5 points with plenty of time in the 4th quarter.
Go for the first/TD on 3rd down and take the 3 on 4th down.
Take the refs out of the equation.
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I didn't like the QB sneak call. I would have given it to Chub. Hindsight 20/20 taking the field goal was probably the best option but after settling for field goals so often I was glad to see them go for it but I would have put the ball in Chubb's hands.
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yeah.....i think fg's would have won yesterdays game, but as you stated, you need an exceptional defense and god knows, we don't have one....creampuff small db's that can't tackle worth a shit....dl that in the beginning of games they look ok but as the game goes along, they wear down....i like the way this wilson kid looked yesterday, but that is not enough...we can't put consistant pressure on the qb....fucking rookie qb smacks us around again....2 turning points in the game were the mayfield qb sneak that failed as they took over and ran the ball right down the field for a td and the richardson personal foul on the qb deep in their own territory....we have tooooooo many issues still....oh well, next yr........maybe...
I just don't understand why we can't make any big plays. SCORING plays! We heard all off season about this vaunted defensive line and they definitely don't impact the game like we hoped. I'm beyond frustrated that another season is lost and we'll once again be looking for a coach (more than likely). I would love nothing more than to get hot and keep our staff, but it doesn't look good. Something is just fundamentally WRONG with our team and it totally feels like the Hue Jackson years where we invented new ways to lose. How did we not win that game? AHHHHHH.
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I just don't understand why we can't make any big plays. SCORING plays! We heard all off season about this vaunted defensive line and they definitely don't impact the game like we hoped. I'm beyond frustrated that another season is lost and we'll once again be looking for a coach (more than likely). I would love nothing more than to get hot and keep our staff, but it doesn't look good. Something is just fundamentally WRONG with our team and it totally feels like the Hue Jackson years where we invented new ways to lose. How did we not win that game? AHHHHHH.
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i think freddy will be around until the end of the yr and then he gets fired....i don't think we beat buffalo....christ, we will probably lose twice to the steelers...we might beat miami except now they have a qb in there that can beat us the way we are playing....probably split with cinci....definetly lose to the ravens.....not a real good future ahead of us this yr......then what, if we do fire freddy, who do we hire...and whoever we hire might want his own type of players which may not include what we have now....this is not what i expected this yr at all....i knew we were not going to the sb like some of these idiots were proclaiming but i thought somehow we'd build on last seasons second half....didn't happen...
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I really do wonder what this team would be if we just kept the ship sailing with Gregg as HC and freddie as OC. I don't think we'd be undefeated, but I'm 100% sure there'd be at least 2 more wins under the belt.
I get the regression with Baker, but I actually think he's looked better the last two games. If I were to put a % on it right now, this situation is 80% on Freddie. Yesterday he finally got that Pat Shurmer deer in the headlights look after the failed challenge (which was bullshit, but still). You saw a guy who truly realized he had no business being in charge. I could write a novel on the little things, but discipline is right at the top. Knowing OBJ and Landry were going to get nailed for the shoes is a lack of leadership to tell them not to, for example. I still believe in Dorsey big time. You can see the talent of these dudes seething to be unleashed, but the play design and coaching is just simply inept.
Anyway fellas, I'll be off line a good bit the next few weeks and big time for next several months. I'm 6 weeks away from first time dad status and it's time to get everything ready. I'm actually glad I have a good reason not to watch this clown car for a little bit!
Anyway fellas, I'll be off line a good bit the next few weeks and big time for next several months. I'm 6 weeks away from first time dad status and it's time to get everything ready. I'm actually glad I have a good reason not to watch this clown car for a little bit!
CONGRATS!! My daughter (my avatar thingie) is now 24 and is at Grad school 8,000 miles away in Melbourne Australia.... enjoy every single second of it because it goes by faster than you can imagine and then a different phase begins.
You are about to feel for another human like you never thought possible, and one of the greatest unintentional side effects is that things like the Browns being losers year in and year out doesn't bother you like it used to..... priorities are instantly rearranged once you see that little face for the first time.
Very happy for you!
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Anyway fellas, I'll be off line a good bit the next few weeks and big time for next several months. I'm 6 weeks away from first time dad status and it's time to get everything ready. I'm actually glad I have a good reason not to watch this clown car for a little bit!
CONGRATS!! My daughter (my avatar thingie) is now 24 and is at Grad school 8,000 miles away in Melbourne Australia.... enjoy every single second of it because it goes by faster than you can imagine and then a different phase begins.
You are about to feel for another human like you never thought possible, and one of the greatest unintentional side effects is that things like the Browns being losers year in and year out doesn't bother you like it used to..... priorities are instantly rearranged once you see that little face for the first time.
Very happy for you!
CONGRATS!! My daughter (my avatar thingie) is now 24 and is at Grad school 8,000 miles away in Melbourne Australia.... enjoy every single second of it because it goes by faster than you can imagine and then a different phase begins.
You are about to feel for another human like you never thought possible, and one of the greatest unintentional side effects is that things like the Browns being losers year in and year out doesn't bother you like it used to..... priorities are instantly rearranged once you see that little face for the first time.
Very happy for you!
been to melbourne a few yrs back.....ran the sydney marathon.....both places are really great......
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I didn't like the QB sneak call. I would have given it to Chub. Hindsight 20/20 taking the field goal was probably the best option but after settling for field goals so often I was glad to see them go for it but I would have put the ball in Chubb's hands.
I didn't like the QB sneak call. I would have given it to Chub. Hindsight 20/20 taking the field goal was probably the best option but after settling for field goals so often I was glad to see them go for it but I would have put the ball in Chubb's hands.
The 3rd and 3 was overthought. If it was an RPO, which it apparently was, why have the weaker of the 2 RBs in the game?
They were in 4th down territory on 3rd and short. It makes little sense to me.
Who cares if our rookie kicker is FLAWLESS and that we’re losing by only 5 points, right? Freddy needs some meditation practice or something to clear his mind.. -
I didn't like the QB sneak call. I would have given it to Chub. Hindsight 20/20 taking the field goal was probably the best option but after settling for field goals so often I was glad to see them go for it but I would have put the ball in Chubb's hands.
The 3rd and 3 was overthought. If it was an RPO, which it apparently was, why have the weaker of the 2 RBs in the game?
They were in 4th down territory on 3rd and short. It makes little sense to me.
Who cares if our rookie kicker is FLAWLESS and that we’re losing by only 5 points, right? Freddy needs some meditation practice or something to clear his mind..The 3rd and 3 was overthought. If it was an RPO, which it apparently was, why have the weaker of the 2 RBs in the game?
They were in 4th down territory on 3rd and short. It makes little sense to me.
Who cares if our rookie kicker is FLAWLESS and that we’re losing by only 5 points, right? Freddy needs some meditation practice or something to clear his mind..yep. I said "Give it to CHUBB ! UP the mid..." and my Wife pointed out that Chubb wasn't in.
dammit. I don't know.
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The 3rd and 3 was overthought. If it was an RPO, which it apparently was, why have the weaker of the 2 RBs in the game?
They were in 4th down territory on 3rd and short. It makes little sense to me.
Who cares if our rookie kicker is FLAWLESS and that we’re losing by only 5 points, right? Freddy needs some meditation practice or something to clear his mind..yep. I said "Give it to CHUBB ! UP the mid..." and my Wife pointed out that Chubb wasn't in.
dammit. I don't know.
yep. I said "Give it to CHUBB ! UP the mid..." and my Wife pointed out that Chubb wasn't in.
dammit. I don't know.
Overthinking it. Kitchens said they kept Hilliard in to keep the defense off balance.
That defeats the purpose of the Run/Pass option, which essentially serves as a play action.Another problem is.. Hilliard isn’t Duke Johnson.
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I really do wonder what this team would be if we just kept the ship sailing with Gregg as HC and freddie as OC. I don't think we'd be undefeated, but I'm 100% sure there'd be at least 2 more wins under the belt.
I get the regression with Baker, but I actually think he's looked better the last two games. If I were to put a % on it right now, this situation is 80% on Freddie. Yesterday he finally got that Pat Shurmer deer in the headlights look after the failed challenge (which was bullshit, but still). You saw a guy who truly realized he had no business being in charge. I could write a novel on the little things, but discipline is right at the top. Knowing OBJ and Landry were going to get nailed for the shoes is a lack of leadership to tell them not to, for example. I still believe in Dorsey big time. You can see the talent of these dudes seething to be unleashed, but the play design and coaching is just simply inept.
Anyway fellas, I'll be off line a good bit the next few weeks and big time for next several months. I'm 6 weeks away from first time dad status and it's time to get everything ready. I'm actually glad I have a good reason not to watch this clown car for a little bit!
Anyway fellas, I'll be off line a good bit the next few weeks and big time for next several months. I'm 6 weeks away from first time dad status and it's time to get everything ready. I'm actually glad I have a good reason not to watch this clown car for a little bit!
Now you have someone to worry about for the rest of your life. Everything changes!! Enjoy the change!!??
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A concern I have is the lack of design using Bakers mobility in our favor sans him just scrambling. No boots, waggles, half field reads, sprint outs with designed rubs for cheap and easy chain moving yardage. Witnessed a few last night the Ravens used to great success.
This needs to be a run first team now, and moving into the off-season re: draft attention to the Oline and play calling. The best teams in the NFL right now are almost all run first teams. Check the numbers - San Fran, Seattle, Minnesota, Baltimore, New England... Running teams that attack their air game with play action and high YPA.
Right now this team lacks identity, leadership and, in some cases - ability.
Side note: does it look like Baker has been drinking to anyone else?
A concern I have is the lack of design using Bakers mobility in our favor sans him just scrambling. No boots, waggles, half field reads, sprint outs with designed rubs for cheap and easy chain moving yardage. Witnessed a few last night the Ravens used to great success.
This needs to be a run first team now, and moving into the off-season re: draft attention to the Oline and play calling. The best teams in the NFL right now are almost all run first teams. Check the numbers - San Fran, Seattle, Minnesota, Baltimore, New England... Running teams that attack their air game with play action and high YPA.
Right now this team lacks identity, leadership and, in some cases - ability.
Side note: does it look like Baker has been drinking to anyone else?
Looks like about a case a night.
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I didn't like the QB sneak call. I would have given it to Chub. Hindsight 20/20 taking the field goal was probably the best option but after settling for field goals so often I was glad to see them go for it but I would have put the ball in Chubb's hands.
The 3rd and 3 was overthought. If it was an RPO, which it apparently was, why have the weaker of the 2 RBs in the game?
They were in 4th down territory on 3rd and short. It makes little sense to me.
Who cares if our rookie kicker is FLAWLESS and that we’re losing by only 5 points, right? Freddy needs some meditation practice or something to clear his mind..The 3rd and 3 was overthought. If it was an RPO, which it apparently was, why have the weaker of the 2 RBs in the game?
They were in 4th down territory on 3rd and short. It makes little sense to me.
Who cares if our rookie kicker is FLAWLESS and that we’re losing by only 5 points, right? Freddy needs some meditation practice or something to clear his mind..Chubb, OBJ, Landry in that order on the 3rd down play.
you don’t throw or give the ball to Harris Callaway or Hilliard.
this weeks fireable offense and probably number 18 on the year.
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Just want to say thanks everyone! Don't worry, I'll continue the tradition of guilting my daughter into being a browns fan ?.
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Why are we analyzing the game like it matters. The entire team is disconnected with each other. So what the defense can't tackle and the offensive line can't protect. We all think they can just make a few adjustments and they can win. These are the Brown's we will find new and innovative ways to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. Even if the defense steps up and stops Buffalo's running and passing game, the offense will sputter and cough because the the light reflecting off their receiver's shoes will blind them. Thus allowing Buffalo to win 10 to 7. For Pittsburgh the offense shows up and scores 37 points but then the defense doesn't and plays two-hand touch football allowing for 48 points. The entire team shows up for Miami but with close to 680 yards of penalties Miami wins 27-14. There is no smoking gun and there is no one point of failure. This team is not a team but a collection of talent wearing the same outfits. I'm a Brown's fan, there's always next year.
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Why are we analyzing the game like it matters. The entire team is disconnected with each other. So what the defense can't tackle and the offensive line can't protect. We all think they can just make a few adjustments and they can win. These are the Brown's we will find new and innovative ways to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. Even if the defense steps up and stops Buffalo's running and passing game, the offense will sputter and cough because the the light reflecting off their receiver's shoes will blind them. Thus allowing Buffalo to win 10 to 7. For Pittsburgh the offense shows up and scores 37 points but then the defense doesn't and plays two-hand touch football allowing for 48 points. The entire team shows up for Miami but with close to 680 yards of penalties Miami wins 27-14. There is no smoking gun and there is no one point of failure. This team is not a team but a collection of talent wearing the same outfits. I'm a Brown's fan, there's always next year.
Why are we analyzing the game like it matters. The entire team is disconnected with each other. So what the defense can't tackle and the offensive line can't protect. We all think they can just make a few adjustments and they can win. These are the Brown's we will find new and innovative ways to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. Even if the defense steps up and stops Buffalo's running and passing game, the offense will sputter and cough because the the light reflecting off their receiver's shoes will blind them. Thus allowing Buffalo to win 10 to 7. For Pittsburgh the offense shows up and scores 37 points but then the defense doesn't and plays two-hand touch football allowing for 48 points. The entire team shows up for Miami but with close to 680 yards of penalties Miami wins 27-14. There is no smoking gun and there is no one point of failure. This team is not a team but a collection of talent wearing the same outfits. I'm a Brown's fan, there's always next year.
ha ha ha i love it....so true....and so sad..
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Why are we analyzing the game like it matters. The entire team is disconnected with each other. So what the defense can't tackle and the offensive line can't protect. We all think they can just make a few adjustments and they can win. These are the Brown's we will find new and innovative ways to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. Even if the defense steps up and stops Buffalo's running and passing game, the offense will sputter and cough because the the light reflecting off their receiver's shoes will blind them. Thus allowing Buffalo to win 10 to 7. For Pittsburgh the offense shows up and scores 37 points but then the defense doesn't and plays two-hand touch football allowing for 48 points. The entire team shows up for Miami but with close to 680 yards of penalties Miami wins 27-14. There is no smoking gun and there is no one point of failure. This team is not a team but a collection of talent wearing the same outfits. I'm a Brown's fan, there's always next year.
Why are we analyzing the game like it matters.
That's what you do when you care too much.
All this talent, yet it seems that we don't use it properly.
Damarious Randall gets injured so our defense just falls apart... offense has weapons, yet isn't using them to score points. It's maddening.
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We did everything fine except for score in the red zone. No turnovers, limited penalties, and won time of possession. But if you kick FG's instead of getting touchdowns, you will lose unless you have a rare defense. We most certainly don't have THAT. Ya know, I'm about sick of hearing about our defensive line. Those assholes haven't done SHIT. You know what's really funny? Myles Garrett echoed the very same sentiment that I said about him. The same message that a member here ripped me for, and that's his failure to make any meaningful plays during the game. Where are our stars? They certainly don't shine on Sunday, I know that much.
We did everything fine except for score in the red zone. No turnovers, limited penalties, and won time of possession. But if you kick FG's instead of getting touchdowns, you will lose unless you have a rare defense. We most certainly don't have THAT. Ya know, I'm about sick of hearing about our defensive line. Those assholes haven't done SHIT. You know what's really funny? Myles Garrett echoed the very same sentiment that I said about him. The same message that a member here ripped me for, and that's his failure to make any meaningful plays during the game. Where are our stars? They certainly don't shine on Sunday, I know that much.
garrett needs some help.....god i' would like to see us get that kid from osu....this kid will be another bosa....and you are right, the dl has not done shit...we were 29th against the run before yesterdays game...not sure what denver ended up with but it seemed alot...so we probably dropped yet anohter notch...
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fuckity fuck fuck
go team
This. ALL of this.
I never would've guessed our season would be over the first week of November.
Dammit to heck man, now we gotta hear ALL about how our coach will be fired, our QB isn't good, OBJ is angry, and whatever else. It never ends. It literally never ends.
And maybe it's because of how the season is going, but at no point during that game after the 1st quarter did I think we were going to win. It just felt like we, once again, had no "magic". We have nothing, ya know? No big strikes, no razzle-dazzle, no......just....ugh...never mind. It doesn't matter any more.
This. ALL of this.
I never would've guessed our season would be over the first week of November.
Dammit to heck man, now we gotta hear ALL about how our coach will be fired, our QB isn't good, OBJ is angry, and whatever else. It never ends. It literally never ends.
And maybe it's because of how the season is going, but at no point during that game after the 1st quarter did I think we were going to win. It just felt like we, once again, had no "magic". We have nothing, ya know? No big strikes, no razzle-dazzle, no......just....ugh...never mind. It doesn't matter any more.
i already have that same feeling this week against buffalo and the game has not even started yet.....
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