Both of our QB's SUCK
-
WTF are we doing?
Serioulsy, why can't we ever bring in a veteran to push these young dumbass'es?
I went to Camp today with Riffer. He's a Quinn homo and still hangs onto that 'hope' and 'dream' that someday a pretty boy QB will make the front cover of the National mag's don'ing a Browns Jersey.
Screw that pipe dream! These guys are followers, back-ups, losers, never-was .....
Anderson and Quinn looked like shit today. As Riff stated, Anderson held the ball so long I blew my load and had a cigarette. Quinn panics and dumps passes through defenders arms that are just plain stupid throws. He puts touch on a balls that should be hammered home in a goal line set. He floats a ball when a receiver busts a seem and can't wait around for a delivery.
hold on a second ... I'm dry heaving.
We sit here day-in and day-out hanging on these two clowns. Where's Drew Bledsoe for $1-mil? Why are we stuck in an off-season with Brett Farve and Michael Vick? Where is the Vet that could out play these two kids with his eyes closed?
Seriously, stop embarrassing yourselves. Again as Riff stated, you might read or hear of a TD pass from one of these guys, but what the story fails to tell you is how one of our weakass DE's already busted in, stopped, and stared at the QB for two-seconds before that pass was ever even thought of being released. 3.5-seconds before it's launched. (I'm not exaggerating, although I wish I were)
OMG, I'm going to get sick.
Let's switch gears and talk about something else.
The receivers caught virtually EVERYTHING. Ok, a pass or so behind a TE was occasionally dropped. Rucker dropped a pass in one-on-one routes that was poor, but beyond that it was catch, after catch, after catch, after catch. much improved from recent years and definately the best ever while a Robiskie was on the field (that's a dig at the father ... settle down Buckeye fans).
The DB's seemed to play closer to the line from years past. Those that know me, know that I like that. I like me some bump-n-run. To tell you the truth, the biggest WR blunder tonight was Braylon not getting off the line on one one-on-one drill, he lined up again with a short break and stumbled again. I can't remember the DB in coverage (Riff?), but on the first attempt, the DB shoved Braylons head to to the ground and stopped him dead as he stumbled out of the blocks. the second time, Braylon stumbled on his own while attempting to fire off. The plays were consecutive, so they stuck out. Keep in mind, this was a one-on-one drill with just him, a DB, and his QB - with all the time in the world to run an elaborate route and get seperation. It's a WR drill, the DB's are typically hung out to dry with no help. Braylon, to his credit, made all the catches, but didn't look 100% with his legs under him.
Let's move on to the RB's ... i'm going to pick-up where I left off in years past in calling out Jamal Lewis. He don't look nearly as hungry as he did when he came here. I say he's washed up, and won't contribute much this season. I like James Davis a lot ... I keep thinking of Greg Pruitt when I see him. Not the moves and break-away (tear-away?) factor, but the type of body or build. He looks smooth. (Zippy, he is my 'Corey Bridges' take it for what it's worth). Harrison is over-rated. Guys (Harrison fags) c'mon, get serious. The guy is no where near taking it inside. He runs sideways behind the line. If we get him his 5-7 balls out in the flat with nothing but the end-zone 60-yards away, he may break it, or gain 40-50. But he's no every-down back. He's gay, and Jamal is the dancing bear. With those two and the two clown QB's, we will suck. Let's see what James Davis can do ... let's punt on third down (someone drown me).
Best Training Camp story ... honest to God, the Browns were practicing blocking punts tonight with Zastudil kicking. Each time, the DB came in uncontested and blocked the full-out punt off of Zastudil's foot. Is that crazy? I mean, it's cool that they are teaching/practicing it, but to use Zastudil for the drill? That's a dangerous drill on both sides.
We noticed that it didn't appear that we have any back-up FG kickers or Punters on the roster. On Special team drills, balls were launched by a back-up QB's arm, to simulate a punt/kick. That's a big change from previous camps.
I was a DA fag, and never really bought into the pretty boy, but have given up on both. I hate them.
-
How about "The defense looks a crapload better"?
-
@shepwrite said:
Well, I've seen Harrison (last year)... and he's really good. I used my eyes. Both of them.I saw Quinn against Denver. And he was really good. I saw Anderson against the Giants. And he was really good.
When you're that depressed and hung over, I seriously recommend a double Bloody. Maybe a Perc.
You've seen Harrison run between the tackles? You've seen Harrison explode off of a mis-direction play and run for daylight. big difference ... huge difference.
Stop being a QB homo for a second and think about the consistency from these two clowns? Quinn can't even put together two good practices in a two-a-day, and Anderson is the poster boy for this franchise ... just when you think we have something, we fall hard, and land on a hard wooden toy.
We are now into Bloody-Marys, up from kool-aid? ... you're right, make it a double.
-
@shepwrite said:
I asked the OBR guys about the quarterback competition... and if they really believe Anderson could start the opener.They agreed that Anderson has looked better. He looks like the guy who has started 27 games and has the bigger arm.
SOBO thinks there's a possibility that Anderson could win the job, although he believes the team went into camp slanted toward Quinn. Adkins believes it's unlikely that Anderson starts. He's stated before that he doesn't believe it's a competition in the truest sense and that the team wants to know once and for all what they have in Brady Quinn.
But to be clear: They agree that Anderson has been better so far.
That sounds decisive ... where can I buy a jersey?
-
GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!
-
STFU Zippy ... read between the lines (or Riffer's post) our stupid-ass 30th ranked Defense walked through plays and still bitch-slapped our oh-so-close NFL starters.
Offense is what you talk about in August, Defense is hopefully what we are talking positive about come November. we are our in training camp, if you missed that while bike riding in PA.
Shep's OBR guys are still blowing smoke up his Californian ass and others here are still goo-goo eyed over the Brday stud. Wake-up, there is no clear cut favorite or starter because there is no clear cut favorite or starter.
Defense can blow me. Until they stop a meaningful drive or ten, they don't get no attention.
-
Yep, our franchise QB is out there somewhere, he's just not in Berea. Coach and GM inherited a pile of crap, and it's going to take more then one season to get it all off the carpet. I like the direction we're headed in all areas, except for the QB position that is...............................Hopefully next year.
-
Zombo said:
Quit being such a homo.
WHEN THE THE CLEVELAND BROWNS ARE A BETTTER PHYSICAL AND DEFENESIVE TEAM THEY WILL BEAT THE RAVENS AND STEELERS AND NOT BEFORE THEN I DONT GIVE A SHIT WHO THE QB IS.
Zombo
LOL! God bless ya! Seems like old times again when you and Skippy are throwing down during training camp.
You gotta admit keeping Pittsburgh AND Indy to just 10 points was about as well as our defense could play. Truth is we couldn't score an OFFENSIVE TD in either game while Indy scored a TD on our offense. Brian Sipe OR Bernie Kosar wins those types of ballgames. I think DA gave up more points against Baltimore than our defense did. I'm not seeing the offense grow and it can't if the starting QB regresses as film/scouting reports replicate around the conference.
Bottomline: if we were getting better from the DA project - there would be a consensus and liquored up versions of Koombaya-my-loddies-Koombaya. I don't remember anyone getting pissed Gary Danielson or Mike Pagel or Don Strock wasn't getting a fair chance. And why? The QB won close games whether he needed alot of points or just enough points.
What games are you going to this year Zombo? Did Merletti mail you Skippy's season tickets yet? That was an awesome letter you sent him.
- Tom F.
-
dude you must already have had 3 too many because your talking nonsense, camp has only been live for a few days, they are learning a brand new offense, and the QB position is one of the toughest in all of sports, give them a break. Not to mention that, as I said before, players can play completely different in game than in practice, hence why I have my money on Brady.
Oh, btw, Quinn is ranked the #1 sleeper QB FF pick this year y one of the writers at yahoo sports
-
WTF are we doing?
Serioulsy, why can't we ever bring in a veteran to push these young dumbass'es?
I went to Camp today with Riffer. He's a Quinn homo and still hangs onto that 'hope' and 'dream' that someday a pretty boy QB will make the front cover of the National mag's don'ing a Browns Jersey.
Screw that pipe dream! These guys are followers, back-ups, losers, never-was .....
Anderson and Quinn looked like shit today. As Riff stated, Anderson held the ball so long I blew my load and had a cigarette. Quinn panics and dumps passes through defenders arms that are just plain stupid throws. He puts touch on a balls that should be hammered home in a goal line set. He floats a ball when a receiver busts a seem and can't wait around for a delivery.
hold on a second ... I'm dry heaving.
We sit here day-in and day-out hanging on these two clowns. Where's Drew Bledsoe for $1-mil? Why are we stuck in an off-season with Brett Farve and Michael Vick? Where is the Vet that could out play these two kids with his eyes closed?
Seriously, stop embarrassing yourselves. Again as Riff stated, you might read or hear of a TD pass from one of these guys, but what the story fails to tell you is how one of our weakass DE's already busted in, stopped, and stared at the QB for two-seconds before that pass was ever even thought of being released. 3.5-seconds before it's launched. (I'm not exaggerating, although I wish I were)
OMG, I'm going to get sick.
Let's switch gears and talk about something else.
The receivers caught virtually EVERYTHING. Ok, a pass or so behind a TE was occasionally dropped. Rucker dropped a pass in one-on-one routes that was poor, but beyond that it was catch, after catch, after catch, after catch. much improved from recent years and definately the best ever while a Robiskie was on the field (that's a dig at the father ... settle down Buckeye fans).
The DB's seemed to play closer to the line from years past. Those that know me, know that I like that. I like me some bump-n-run. To tell you the truth, the biggest WR blunder tonight was Braylon not getting off the line on one one-on-one drill, he lined up again with a short break and stumbled again. I can't remember the DB in coverage (Riff?), but on the first attempt, the DB shoved Braylons head to to the ground and stopped him dead as he stumbled out of the blocks. the second time, Braylon stumbled on his own while attempting to fire off. The plays were consecutive, so they stuck out. Keep in mind, this was a one-on-one drill with just him, a DB, and his QB - with all the time in the world to run an elaborate route and get seperation. It's a WR drill, the DB's are typically hung out to dry with no help. Braylon, to his credit, made all the catches, but didn't look 100% with his legs under him.
Let's move on to the RB's ... i'm going to pick-up where I left off in years past in calling out Jamal Lewis. He don't look nearly as hungry as he did when he came here. I say he's washed up, and won't contribute much this season. I like James Davis a lot ... I keep thinking of Greg Pruitt when I see him. Not the moves and break-away (tear-away?) factor, but the type of body or build. He looks smooth. (Zippy, he is my 'Corey Bridges' take it for what it's worth). Harrison is over-rated. Guys (Harrison fags) c'mon, get serious. The guy is no where near taking it inside. He runs sideways behind the line. If we get him his 5-7 balls out in the flat with nothing but the end-zone 60-yards away, he may break it, or gain 40-50. But he's no every-down back. He's gay, and Jamal is the dancing bear. With those two and the two clown QB's, we will suck. Let's see what James Davis can do ... let's punt on third down (someone drown me).
Best Training Camp story ... honest to God, the Browns were practicing blocking punts tonight with Zastudil kicking. Each time, the DB came in uncontested and blocked the full-out punt off of Zastudil's foot. Is that crazy? I mean, it's cool that they are teaching/practicing it, but to use Zastudil for the drill? That's a dangerous drill on both sides.
We noticed that it didn't appear that we have any back-up FG kickers or Punters on the roster. On Special team drills, balls were launched by a back-up QB's arm, to simulate a punt/kick. That's a big change from previous camps.
I was a DA fag, and never really bought into the pretty boy, but have given up on both. I hate them.
WTF are we doing?
Let's move on to the RB's ... i'm going to pick-up where I left off in years past in calling out Jamal Lewis. He don't look nearly as hungry as he did when he came here. I say he's washed up, and won't contribute much this season. I like James Davis a lot ... I keep thinking of Greg Pruitt when I see him. Not the moves and break-away (tear-away?) factor, but the type of body or build. He looks smooth. (Zippy, he is my 'Corey Bridges' take it for what it's worth). Harrison is over-rated. Guys (Harrison fags) c'mon, get serious. The guy is no where near taking it inside. He runs sideways behind the line. If we get him his 5-7 balls out in the flat with nothing but the end-zone 60-yards away, he may break it, or gain 40-50. But he's no every-down back. He's gay, and Jamal is the dancing bear. With those two and the two clown QB's, we will suck. Let's see what James Davis can do ... let's punt on third down (someone drown me).
I said Lewis looked washed up last year- in fact I'm counting on it. IIRC I got a bet with Sisky that Lewis isn't going to come close to 1,000 yards. -
Okay, who clampled a set of vice grips on Stan's lower lip?
How far are we from the first EXIBITION game? New coach? New offensive coaching staff? New offense? New center? New wr's? Hello?
I think somebody needs a snow cone to help them be patient....
-
STFU Zippy ... read between the lines (or Riffer's post) our stupid-ass 30th ranked Defense walked through plays and still bitch-slapped our oh-so-close NFL starters.
Offense is what you talk about in August, Defense is hopefully what we are talking positive about come November. we are our in training camp, if you missed that while bike riding in PA.
Shep's OBR guys are still blowing smoke up his Californian ass and others here are still goo-goo eyed over the Brday stud. Wake-up, there is no clear cut favorite or starter because there is no clear cut favorite or starter.
Defense can blow me. Until they stop a meaningful drive or ten, they don't get no attention.
-
Allright, allright.... Guys... time to calm down a little.
Ok, Aten... we know you're pissed.
Frankly, you got some points. We haven't exactly been hearing great news out of Berea concerning either QB. And that troubles me. As great as it is to hear this amazing stuff about James Davis (which is starting to get old after 4 days 
), Robiski, and Hubbard.... I'd really like to hear something good about our QBs right now. Its what we've been pissing over for the entire off season, practically. But we aren't getting much aside from the general consensus of "both QBs look decent-to-mediocre". Man, if that doesn't put a damper on watching camp, I don't know what would. Now, I'm a little Quinn biased, simply because I haven't seen him yet. And I have never liked DA's play style in the first place. But if either guy can step up to lead the team successfully, I will back them regardless. But as of now, I don't see this happening to either QB with any measure of confidence. I'm a little worried about that.
That being said, Zombo also leads with some good points. I've lurked a lot here and I have to say, Zombo... you're one of the posters who always has some good insight to bring to the table, and I tip my hat to you for that. Zombo is right: just look at Flacco. The kid comes in his first year to a team with a superb defense (Derrick Mason leading the WRs helps) and and gets an AFC championship out of it. A decent QB surrounded by great players can look great. Hell, isn't that the whole reason Ken Dorsey got drafted in the first place? He had a great team in Miami, and lead that team to the rose bowl and won. But as a quarterback, he sucked... and when we finally realized that, we cut his ass.
Frankly, I agree with both of you guys. On a bad day, I'll sound more like Aten, though.
Sleep it off, Aten, and I'm sure you'll feel better tomorrow. As for our situation, I say we just gotta deal with it. We play what we got. Right now, our WR corp looks surprisingly strong, our Oline is strong, and I see a lot of promise in Davis. On the defense we have some suspicious pass rush ability but I really like Rex Ryan as a coordinator and I think he will do a fine job leading our D. I think that, all in all, provided we can pull everything else together, we don't need to be reading "QUINN/DA xxxxING OWNED EVERYONE IN CAMP TODAY". I'm just happy we got a team that doesn't play like the Cleveland Pillsbury Doughboys anymore. I'm gonna wait until preseason to do any real complaining. Right now, Quinn and DA still have time to improve and adjust to the new offense. For now, I'll just sit back and relax and enjoy hearing actual news about our players now that we're in camp.
-
if both Qbs looked awesome on every play of training camp I'd be far more worried about the state of our defense.
We've heard for years that Anderson always looks great in practice when the pressure is nonexistant, and that Quinn doesn't practice as well as he plays in games. I don't care who the starter is when the season begins, but if we can't win with one of these guys our problems go much deeper than the QB position.
-
Flugels here now riding on Zippy's coattail and preaching about defense??? Wasn't Flugel the one here earlier this week posting about a huge lead against Pittsburgh being blown because we didn't continue to score points?
Where was that Defensive mindset a few days ago Flippy?
-
Dam stan chill out man!
What did you expect with DA going from waived in baltimore to the browns bench untrained and then the unexpected starter in chuds crud static 1 WR system to a more complex genuine ball control balanced attack system...Both DA and BQ came from a shoddy regime and we need to hope BQ can shake off 3 years of bench rust and being tudored by dorsey a guy that cant even play the game..and DA should have never been allowed to get on the pro field as a starter until his staredown problem was fixed...so lets give them some time to adjust to a real football enviroment with a real gameplan and staff i think both these guys will be fine once they adjust...
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
WTF are we doing?
Serioulsy, why can't we ever bring in a veteran to push these young dumbass'es?
I went to Camp today with Riffer. He's a Quinn homo and still hangs onto that 'hope' and 'dream' that someday a pretty boy QB will make the front cover of the National mag's don'ing a Browns Jersey.
Screw that pipe dream! These guys are followers, back-ups, losers, never-was .....
Anderson and Quinn looked like shit today. As Riff stated, Anderson held the ball so long I blew my load and had a cigarette. Quinn panics and dumps passes through defenders arms that are just plain stupid throws. He puts touch on a balls that should be hammered home in a goal line set. He floats a ball when a receiver busts a seem and can't wait around for a delivery.
hold on a second ... I'm dry heaving.
We sit here day-in and day-out hanging on these two clowns. Where's Drew Bledsoe for $1-mil? Why are we stuck in an off-season with Brett Farve and Michael Vick? Where is the Vet that could out play these two kids with his eyes closed?
Seriously, stop embarrassing yourselves. Again as Riff stated, you might read or hear of a TD pass from one of these guys, but what the story fails to tell you is how one of our weakass DE's already busted in, stopped, and stared at the QB for two-seconds before that pass was ever even thought of being released. 3.5-seconds before it's launched. (I'm not exaggerating, although I wish I were)
OMG, I'm going to get sick.
Let's switch gears and talk about something else.
The receivers caught virtually EVERYTHING. Ok, a pass or so behind a TE was occasionally dropped. Rucker dropped a pass in one-on-one routes that was poor, but beyond that it was catch, after catch, after catch, after catch. much improved from recent years and definately the best ever while a Robiskie was on the field (that's a dig at the father ... settle down Buckeye fans).
The DB's seemed to play closer to the line from years past. Those that know me, know that I like that. I like me some bump-n-run. To tell you the truth, the biggest WR blunder tonight was Braylon not getting off the line on one one-on-one drill, he lined up again with a short break and stumbled again. I can't remember the DB in coverage (Riff?), but on the first attempt, the DB shoved Braylons head to to the ground and stopped him dead as he stumbled out of the blocks. the second time, Braylon stumbled on his own while attempting to fire off. The plays were consecutive, so they stuck out. Keep in mind, this was a one-on-one drill with just him, a DB, and his QB - with all the time in the world to run an elaborate route and get seperation. It's a WR drill, the DB's are typically hung out to dry with no help. Braylon, to his credit, made all the catches, but didn't look 100% with his legs under him.
Let's move on to the RB's ... i'm going to pick-up where I left off in years past in calling out Jamal Lewis. He don't look nearly as hungry as he did when he came here. I say he's washed up, and won't contribute much this season. I like James Davis a lot ... I keep thinking of Greg Pruitt when I see him. Not the moves and break-away (tear-away?) factor, but the type of body or build. He looks smooth. (Zippy, he is my 'Corey Bridges' take it for what it's worth). Harrison is over-rated. Guys (Harrison fags) c'mon, get serious. The guy is no where near taking it inside. He runs sideways behind the line. If we get him his 5-7 balls out in the flat with nothing but the end-zone 60-yards away, he may break it, or gain 40-50. But he's no every-down back. He's gay, and Jamal is the dancing bear. With those two and the two clown QB's, we will suck. Let's see what James Davis can do ... let's punt on third down (someone drown me).
Best Training Camp story ... honest to God, the Browns were practicing blocking punts tonight with Zastudil kicking. Each time, the DB came in uncontested and blocked the full-out punt off of Zastudil's foot. Is that crazy? I mean, it's cool that they are teaching/practicing it, but to use Zastudil for the drill? That's a dangerous drill on both sides.
We noticed that it didn't appear that we have any back-up FG kickers or Punters on the roster. On Special team drills, balls were launched by a back-up QB's arm, to simulate a punt/kick. That's a big change from previous camps.
I was a DA fag, and never really bought into the pretty boy, but have given up on both. I hate them.
Harrison is over-rated. Guys (Harrison fags) c'mon, get serious. The guy is no where near taking it inside. He runs sideways behind the line. If we get him his 5-7 balls out in the flat with nothing but the end-zone 60-yards away, he may break it, or gain 40-50. But he's no every-down back. He's gay, and Jamal is the dancing bear. With those two and the two clown QB's, we will suck. Let's see what James Davis can do ... let's punt on third down (someone drown me).
Sweet! I'm a Harrison fag now!
I'm still waiting on becoming a Davis fag while we're still in camp. I've got Clemson friends who swear he has no hands (ball protection included - not just catching screens), and plays a lot smaller than he looks (slightly confirmed by reports of him getting pasted on a few blocks - at least he's willing). I'm giving him his chance, though. I'd love to have Byner/Mack back there again.
-
Dam stan chill out man!
What did you expect with DA going from waived in baltimore to the browns bench untrained and then the unexpected starter in chuds crud static 1 WR system to a more complex genuine ball control balanced attack system...Both DA and BQ came from a shoddy regime and we need to hope BQ can shake off 3 years of bench rust and being tudored by dorsey a guy that cant even play the game..and DA should have never been allowed to get on the pro field as a starter until his staredown problem was fixed...so lets give them some time to adjust to a real football enviroment with a real gameplan and staff i think both these guys will be fine once they adjust...
Dam stan chill out man!
What did you expect with DA going from waived in baltimore to the browns bench untrained and then the unexpected starter in chuds crud static 1 WR system to a more complex genuine ball control balanced attack system...Both DA and BQ came from a shoddy regime and we need to hope BQ can shake off 3 years of bench rust and being tudored by dorsey a guy that cant even play the game..and DA should have never been allowed to get on the pro field as a starter until his staredown problem was fixed...so lets give them some time to adjust to a real football enviroment with a real gameplan and staff i think both these guys will be fine once they adjust...
That was convincing ... you started the paragraph telling me I was stupid for expecting anything from a bench player, that both QB's are coming out from under a shoddy regime ... you tossed in the word 'hope' that is the only real basis of your post ... dis Anderson again, the guy B.Queen can't seem to beat-out ... and end telling us that everything will be fine.
(How long until the Bloody Mary's erase our QB problems/reality and I can 'hope' and 'dream' again?)
.jpg.a1a2b9a0c33008fdaf4097d8fe2cfd64.jpg "Riffer X"){kind=avatar}
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login