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  • @d-bone said:

    Pretty much what I saw. At one point late in the 1st qtr we had 3 runs (1 QB sneak) and 12 passes. The 2nd half I thought Freddie did a good job, but would've liked a few more carries by Hunt (with Chubb on field too) on early downs.

    Overall, it was a sold B from me. 

    But we were moving the ball in the 1st quarter with that gameplan. I don't care how many times we run or pass as long as the ball is moving and it was that first 1.5 quarters. You don't run just for the sake of getting your number of run plays called up. Yeah it helps to keep a team honest but if they aren't stopping passes it doesn't matter if they know you are passing.

    @bjh2130 said:

    But we were moving the ball in the 1st quarter with that gameplan. I don't care how many times we run or pass as long as the ball is moving and it was that first 1.5 quarters. You don't run just for the sake of getting your number of run plays called up. Yeah it helps to keep a team honest but if they aren't stopping passes it doesn't matter if they know you are passing.

    After the opening drive there wasn't much else, or that's my memory anyway.

  • @bjh2130 said:

    But we were moving the ball in the 1st quarter with that gameplan. I don't care how many times we run or pass as long as the ball is moving and it was that first 1.5 quarters. You don't run just for the sake of getting your number of run plays called up. Yeah it helps to keep a team honest but if they aren't stopping passes it doesn't matter if they know you are passing.

    After the opening drive there wasn't much else, or that's my memory anyway.

    @d-bone said:

    After the opening drive there wasn't much else, or that's my memory anyway.

    Didn't we get into field goal range in the first quarter also?

    Just looked it up no we didn't but through 4 drives we 171 yards two touchdowns and one 3 and out

  • I would say the only real issue I had with the game and play calling is we were a little too pass happy in the first half, I would have liked to seen more touches with Chubb but overall was solid game plan.

    @runyon27 said:

    I would say the only real issue I had with the game and play calling is we were a little too pass happy in the first half, I would have liked to seen more touches with Chubb but overall was solid game plan.

    Yep. And then in the second half with a 2 score lead the Steeler defense was able to zero in on a bunch of predictable runs. One series was 3 straight runs and a punt..  

  • Do you listen?  This guy says he doesn't coach fighting?  Who does?  He is the worst coach the Browns have ever had.  Listening to him talk is like listening to a high school coach from Dirt poor Alabama.  

  • Do you listen?  This guy says he doesn't coach fighting?  Who does?  He is the worst coach the Browns have ever had.  Listening to him talk is like listening to a high school coach from Dirt poor Alabama.  

    @duckpins said:

    Do you listen?  This guy says he doesn't coach fighting?  Who does?  He is the worst coach the Browns have ever had.  Listening to him talk is like listening to a high school coach from Dirt poor Alabama.  

    No one does but that's his point.  No one coaches guys to commit penalties to miss block pickups to rip off helmets and hit opposing players etc.

  • @runyon27 said:

    I would say the only real issue I had with the game and play calling is we were a little too pass happy in the first half, I would have liked to seen more touches with Chubb but overall was solid game plan.

    Pretty much what I saw. At one point late in the 1st qtr we had 3 runs (1 QB sneak) and 12 passes. The 2nd half I thought Freddie did a good job, but would've liked a few more carries by Hunt (with Chubb on field too) on early downs.

    Overall, it was a sold B from me. 

    @d-bone said:

    Pretty much what I saw. At one point late in the 1st qtr we had 3 runs (1 QB sneak) and 12 passes. The 2nd half I thought Freddie did a good job, but would've liked a few more carries by Hunt (with Chubb on field too) on early downs.

    Overall, it was a sold B from me. 

    They need to have those two on the field together a lot more.  It gives the defense something to think about with both of them in there.

    I am thinking and hoping that they are going to bludgeon the Dolphins with the run game here next game.

  • @d-bone said:

    Pretty much what I saw. At one point late in the 1st qtr we had 3 runs (1 QB sneak) and 12 passes. The 2nd half I thought Freddie did a good job, but would've liked a few more carries by Hunt (with Chubb on field too) on early downs.

    Overall, it was a sold B from me. 

    They need to have those two on the field together a lot more.  It gives the defense something to think about with both of them in there.

    I am thinking and hoping that they are going to bludgeon the Dolphins with the run game here next game.

    @the-gipper said:

    They need to have those two on the field together a lot more.  It gives the defense something to think about with both of them in there.

    I am thinking and hoping that they are going to bludgeon the Dolphins with the run game here next game.

    Big time. Give me both those dudes on the field for, well, every play...... Would love to see some pro-set RB formations like Byner and Mack. Chubb 22 carries and Hunt 13 sounds great to me. 

  • @duckpins said:

    Do you listen?  This guy says he doesn't coach fighting?  Who does?  He is the worst coach the Browns have ever had.  Listening to him talk is like listening to a high school coach from Dirt poor Alabama.  

    No one does but that's his point.  No one coaches guys to commit penalties to miss block pickups to rip off helmets and hit opposing players etc.

    @bjh2130 said:

    No one does but that's his point.  No one coaches guys to commit penalties to miss block pickups to rip off helmets and hit opposing players etc.

    I think Duckpins is saying that Freddie should teach discipline.

  • Freddie's best coached game but the lack of discipline among the players just bleeds through. The Steelers' sole touchdown was essentially a gift of penalties from the Brown's defense. Randall's hit that led to his ejection was completely unnecessary. If he can coach his way out of Myle's suspension, then he deserves to keep his job.

  • Myles and the rest of our starters should have NEVER been on the field after we went up by 14. He needed to be aware that Pittsburgh are sore losers and were baiting, or worse, trying to injure our guys. Next time with a healthy lead and no chance for the other team to come back, pull those starters. 

  • Speaking of lack of discipline...after the scrum...28 steelers on field....12 browns...seems like the team isnt out of control

  • Myles and the rest of our starters should have NEVER been on the field after we went up by 14. He needed to be aware that Pittsburgh are sore losers and were baiting, or worse, trying to injure our guys. Next time with a healthy lead and no chance for the other team to come back, pull those starters. 

    @poeticg said:

    Myles and the rest of our starters should have NEVER been on the field after we went up by 14. He needed to be aware that Pittsburgh are sore losers and were baiting, or worse, trying to injure our guys. Next time with a healthy lead and no chance for the other team to come back, pull those starters. 

    It’s well known how poor the sportsmanship is in turdburg. Gotta remember tho that the NFL is a piss poor loser too. Don’t mess with their pretty boys

  • @the-gipper said:

    They need to have those two on the field together a lot more.  It gives the defense something to think about with both of them in there.

    I am thinking and hoping that they are going to bludgeon the Dolphins with the run game here next game.

    Big time. Give me both those dudes on the field for, well, every play...... Would love to see some pro-set RB formations like Byner and Mack. Chubb 22 carries and Hunt 13 sounds great to me. 

    @d-bone said:

    Big time. Give me both those dudes on the field for, well, every play...... Would love to see some pro-set RB formations like Byner and Mack. Chubb 22 carries and Hunt 13 sounds great to me. 

    A lot more duel RB plays with Hunt coming out of the backfield fairly often for some poor LB to have to cover. He's as good as any slot receiver that NE has ever had, but with far better ability one on one after the catch. He has made key catches in both these wins since he came onto the scene. His value is way above the departed RB Duke Johnson that went to Houston.

  • @d-bone said:

    Big time. Give me both those dudes on the field for, well, every play...... Would love to see some pro-set RB formations like Byner and Mack. Chubb 22 carries and Hunt 13 sounds great to me. 

    A lot more duel RB plays with Hunt coming out of the backfield fairly often for some poor LB to have to cover. He's as good as any slot receiver that NE has ever had, but with far better ability one on one after the catch. He has made key catches in both these wins since he came onto the scene. His value is way above the departed RB Duke Johnson that went to Houston.

    @texasag1969 said:

    A lot more duel RB plays with Hunt coming out of the backfield fairly often for some poor LB to have to cover. He's as good as any slot receiver that NE has ever had, but with far better ability one on one after the catch. He has made key catches in both these wins since he came onto the scene. His value is way above the departed RB Duke Johnson that went to Houston.

    I still can’t help but dream about the possibilities with all 3 of those guys in the backfield in one of those inverted wishbone formations that were so fun last year. Oh well...

  • @texasag1969 said:

    A lot more duel RB plays with Hunt coming out of the backfield fairly often for some poor LB to have to cover. He's as good as any slot receiver that NE has ever had, but with far better ability one on one after the catch. He has made key catches in both these wins since he came onto the scene. His value is way above the departed RB Duke Johnson that went to Houston.

    I still can’t help but dream about the possibilities with all 3 of those guys in the backfield in one of those inverted wishbone formations that were so fun last year. Oh well...

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I still can’t help but dream about the possibilities with all 3 of those guys in the backfield in one of those inverted wishbone formations that were so fun last year. Oh well...

    Oh I think you're going to see it. Might not be a LOT, but I definitely think you'll see the Wishbone, and you're probably going to see it next week. Why? We've got a little extra time to prepare for the Fins. They're basically the worst defense against the run in the league, and it would not surprise me in the least to see us formulate a game plan based on stuffing it down their throat. Against the top defenses we've been playing, it's pretty obvious that we've been playing somewhat careful and rightfully so. Credit should go to the coaches, even if they (and the offense) blew the Broncos game (ughhhhhhh). 

    We run the ball, we like short passes, and we take calculated deep shots. One of my favorite passes last game was that deep seam pass to Jarvis early on. That's been missing and it was great to see it come back. 

    Anyway, I hope I'm right about the Wishbone. We've got the personnel to run it, and it won't be easy to prepare for...even if it's just for a few plays. After the ugliness of the last game, it's very important for us to figure out what kind of team we're going to be. 

  • Freddie's best coached game but the lack of discipline among the players just bleeds through. The Steelers' sole touchdown was essentially a gift of penalties from the Brown's defense. Randall's hit that led to his ejection was completely unnecessary. If he can coach his way out of Myle's suspension, then he deserves to keep his job.

    @mddawg said:

    Freddie's best coached game but the lack of discipline among the players just bleeds through. The Steelers' sole touchdown was essentially a gift of penalties from the Brown's defense. Randall's hit that led to his ejection was completely unnecessary. If he can coach his way out of Myle's suspension, then he deserves to keep his job.

    The hands to the face on Ogunjobi and the illegal contact on Burris (definitely this one) were not good calls. Randall's hit wasn't some egregious dirty hit.  Was it a penalty absolutely.  Diontae lunged forward and dipped his head to catch the ball right as randall was midstep and he had already set his target point. If Johnson's head doesn't dip randall hits him in the shoulder. if he is standing straight up Randall's shoulder hits Johnson in the ribs and his helmet is in the front of Johsnon's body (perfect form tackle).

  • Blaming playcalling is low hanging fruit if the players arent execuring the plays

  • Freddie actually did a decent job[quote/]

    ....but admit it....you were shaking in your boots, that they were actually going to go for it on 4th down, late in the game, when Freddie sent the offense out onto the field on 4th and 4ish....with a 14 point lead.....right....Admit it....you were as afraid as me that Freddie was about to blow the game right then and there....

  • Freddie still has a lot to be desired left on the table... Lets see if we can get continuity in wins first...

  • Fire this schmucking incompetent imbecile now.

    -no discipline

    -tons of penalties

    -terrible challenges

    -doesn't know how to properly use timeouts

    -clock management worse than Andy Reid

    Stop the clowncar and throw fatty Freddy off!