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  • @duckpins said:

    Do you listen?  This guy says he doesn't coach fighting?  Who does?  He is the worst coach the Browns have ever had.  Listening to him talk is like listening to a high school coach from Dirt poor Alabama.  

    No one does but that's his point.  No one coaches guys to commit penalties to miss block pickups to rip off helmets and hit opposing players etc.

    @bjh2130 said:

    No one does but that's his point.  No one coaches guys to commit penalties to miss block pickups to rip off helmets and hit opposing players etc.

    I think Duckpins is saying that Freddie should teach discipline.

  • Freddie's best coached game but the lack of discipline among the players just bleeds through. The Steelers' sole touchdown was essentially a gift of penalties from the Brown's defense. Randall's hit that led to his ejection was completely unnecessary. If he can coach his way out of Myle's suspension, then he deserves to keep his job.

  • Myles and the rest of our starters should have NEVER been on the field after we went up by 14. He needed to be aware that Pittsburgh are sore losers and were baiting, or worse, trying to injure our guys. Next time with a healthy lead and no chance for the other team to come back, pull those starters. 

  • Speaking of lack of discipline...after the scrum...28 steelers on field....12 browns...seems like the team isnt out of control

  • Myles and the rest of our starters should have NEVER been on the field after we went up by 14. He needed to be aware that Pittsburgh are sore losers and were baiting, or worse, trying to injure our guys. Next time with a healthy lead and no chance for the other team to come back, pull those starters. 

    @poeticg said:

    Myles and the rest of our starters should have NEVER been on the field after we went up by 14. He needed to be aware that Pittsburgh are sore losers and were baiting, or worse, trying to injure our guys. Next time with a healthy lead and no chance for the other team to come back, pull those starters. 

    It’s well known how poor the sportsmanship is in turdburg. Gotta remember tho that the NFL is a piss poor loser too. Don’t mess with their pretty boys

  • @the-gipper said:

    They need to have those two on the field together a lot more.  It gives the defense something to think about with both of them in there.

    I am thinking and hoping that they are going to bludgeon the Dolphins with the run game here next game.

    Big time. Give me both those dudes on the field for, well, every play...... Would love to see some pro-set RB formations like Byner and Mack. Chubb 22 carries and Hunt 13 sounds great to me. 

    @d-bone said:

    Big time. Give me both those dudes on the field for, well, every play...... Would love to see some pro-set RB formations like Byner and Mack. Chubb 22 carries and Hunt 13 sounds great to me. 

    A lot more duel RB plays with Hunt coming out of the backfield fairly often for some poor LB to have to cover. He's as good as any slot receiver that NE has ever had, but with far better ability one on one after the catch. He has made key catches in both these wins since he came onto the scene. His value is way above the departed RB Duke Johnson that went to Houston.

  • @d-bone said:

    Big time. Give me both those dudes on the field for, well, every play...... Would love to see some pro-set RB formations like Byner and Mack. Chubb 22 carries and Hunt 13 sounds great to me. 

    A lot more duel RB plays with Hunt coming out of the backfield fairly often for some poor LB to have to cover. He's as good as any slot receiver that NE has ever had, but with far better ability one on one after the catch. He has made key catches in both these wins since he came onto the scene. His value is way above the departed RB Duke Johnson that went to Houston.

    @texasag1969 said:

    A lot more duel RB plays with Hunt coming out of the backfield fairly often for some poor LB to have to cover. He's as good as any slot receiver that NE has ever had, but with far better ability one on one after the catch. He has made key catches in both these wins since he came onto the scene. His value is way above the departed RB Duke Johnson that went to Houston.

    I still can’t help but dream about the possibilities with all 3 of those guys in the backfield in one of those inverted wishbone formations that were so fun last year. Oh well...

  • @texasag1969 said:

    A lot more duel RB plays with Hunt coming out of the backfield fairly often for some poor LB to have to cover. He's as good as any slot receiver that NE has ever had, but with far better ability one on one after the catch. He has made key catches in both these wins since he came onto the scene. His value is way above the departed RB Duke Johnson that went to Houston.

    I still can’t help but dream about the possibilities with all 3 of those guys in the backfield in one of those inverted wishbone formations that were so fun last year. Oh well...

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I still can’t help but dream about the possibilities with all 3 of those guys in the backfield in one of those inverted wishbone formations that were so fun last year. Oh well...

    Oh I think you're going to see it. Might not be a LOT, but I definitely think you'll see the Wishbone, and you're probably going to see it next week. Why? We've got a little extra time to prepare for the Fins. They're basically the worst defense against the run in the league, and it would not surprise me in the least to see us formulate a game plan based on stuffing it down their throat. Against the top defenses we've been playing, it's pretty obvious that we've been playing somewhat careful and rightfully so. Credit should go to the coaches, even if they (and the offense) blew the Broncos game (ughhhhhhh). 

    We run the ball, we like short passes, and we take calculated deep shots. One of my favorite passes last game was that deep seam pass to Jarvis early on. That's been missing and it was great to see it come back. 

    Anyway, I hope I'm right about the Wishbone. We've got the personnel to run it, and it won't be easy to prepare for...even if it's just for a few plays. After the ugliness of the last game, it's very important for us to figure out what kind of team we're going to be. 

  • Freddie's best coached game but the lack of discipline among the players just bleeds through. The Steelers' sole touchdown was essentially a gift of penalties from the Brown's defense. Randall's hit that led to his ejection was completely unnecessary. If he can coach his way out of Myle's suspension, then he deserves to keep his job.

    @mddawg said:

    Freddie's best coached game but the lack of discipline among the players just bleeds through. The Steelers' sole touchdown was essentially a gift of penalties from the Brown's defense. Randall's hit that led to his ejection was completely unnecessary. If he can coach his way out of Myle's suspension, then he deserves to keep his job.

    The hands to the face on Ogunjobi and the illegal contact on Burris (definitely this one) were not good calls. Randall's hit wasn't some egregious dirty hit.  Was it a penalty absolutely.  Diontae lunged forward and dipped his head to catch the ball right as randall was midstep and he had already set his target point. If Johnson's head doesn't dip randall hits him in the shoulder. if he is standing straight up Randall's shoulder hits Johnson in the ribs and his helmet is in the front of Johsnon's body (perfect form tackle).

  • Blaming playcalling is low hanging fruit if the players arent execuring the plays

  • Freddie actually did a decent job[quote/]

    ....but admit it....you were shaking in your boots, that they were actually going to go for it on 4th down, late in the game, when Freddie sent the offense out onto the field on 4th and 4ish....with a 14 point lead.....right....Admit it....you were as afraid as me that Freddie was about to blow the game right then and there....

  • Freddie still has a lot to be desired left on the table... Lets see if we can get continuity in wins first...

  • Fire this schmucking incompetent imbecile now.

    -no discipline

    -tons of penalties

    -terrible challenges

    -doesn't know how to properly use timeouts

    -clock management worse than Andy Reid

    Stop the clowncar and throw fatty Freddy off!

  • fuck off

  • I'm not the biggest Freddie fan, but I don't accept any notion that he had any responsibility for what Myles did. That's just crazy talk. 

    We're now going to see what Freddie is made of. Not only did he lose his best and most impacting player (other than the qb), but he's now going to need to figure out how to get his team back on track and moving forward together. We play the Dolphins next, and although this team is rather lowly, they're still more than capable of beating us. 

    Let's see how we respond. We're going to know in about the first 20 minutes of the next game. 

  • I'm not the biggest Freddie fan, but I don't accept any notion that he had any responsibility for what Myles did. That's just crazy talk. 

    We're now going to see what Freddie is made of. Not only did he lose his best and most impacting player (other than the qb), but he's now going to need to figure out how to get his team back on track and moving forward together. We play the Dolphins next, and although this team is rather lowly, they're still more than capable of beating us. 

    Let's see how we respond. We're going to know in about the first 20 minutes of the next game. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I'm not the biggest Freddie fan, but I don't accept any notion that he had any responsibility for what Myles did. That's just crazy talk. 

    We're now going to see what Freddie is made of. Not only did he lose his best and most impacting player (other than the qb), but he's now going to need to figure out how to get his team back on track and moving forward together. We play the Dolphins next, and although this team is rather lowly, they're still more than capable of beating us. 

    Let's see how we respond. We're going to know in about the first 20 minutes of the next game. 

    BTW, Wilks is going to have to  figure out  what he's going to do  at safety. Besides  not having Garrett. 

  • I kinda thought we played well enough to win in spite of Freddie, not because of him. We have the talent and should not look so disorganized so often

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    I'm not the biggest Freddie fan, but I don't accept any notion that he had any responsibility for what Myles did. That's just crazy talk. 

    We're now going to see what Freddie is made of. Not only did he lose his best and most impacting player (other than the qb), but he's now going to need to figure out how to get his team back on track and moving forward together. We play the Dolphins next, and although this team is rather lowly, they're still more than capable of beating us. 

    Let's see how we respond. We're going to know in about the first 20 minutes of the next game. 

    BTW, Wilks is going to have to  figure out  what he's going to do  at safety. Besides  not having Garrett. 

    @hoorta said:

    BTW, Wilks is going to have to  figure out  what he's going to do  at safety. Besides  not having Garrett. 

    I have a bad feeling about the defense for the stretch run... This is going to be a thin DLine with very green safety in Redwine in the backend. 

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    I'm not the biggest Freddie fan, but I don't accept any notion that he had any responsibility for what Myles did. That's just crazy talk. 

    We're now going to see what Freddie is made of. Not only did he lose his best and most impacting player (other than the qb), but he's now going to need to figure out how to get his team back on track and moving forward together. We play the Dolphins next, and although this team is rather lowly, they're still more than capable of beating us. 

    Let's see how we respond. We're going to know in about the first 20 minutes of the next game. 

    BTW, Wilks is going to have to  figure out  what he's going to do  at safety. Besides  not having Garrett. 

    @hoorta said:

    BTW, Wilks is going to have to  figure out  what he's going to do  at safety. Besides  not having Garrett. 

    I know, I literally don't have a clue what we're going to do. If the answer has anything to do with Redwine, we're in deep kemche. 

    I feel terrible for our safety who tore his Achilles. He had such a great game and that injury is pretty much the worst thing to rehab and overcome. I just hate it. It's especially difficult for us because we prefer the 3 safety look, AND we don't really have the linebackers to play the other way.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick is very inconsistent, but make no mistake, he CAN beat you, and when he's on, he beats you deep. This is why I think our offense is going to have to win our next game. Greedy hasn't been playing all that great against the deep pass, and while he hasn't necessarily given up the long play, it's been rather close. Add in the fact that we're without our stud pass rusher, AND we're not sure Vernon is back, this has the potential to be a game with points scored. 

  • @hoorta said:

    BTW, Wilks is going to have to  figure out  what he's going to do  at safety. Besides  not having Garrett. 

    I know, I literally don't have a clue what we're going to do. If the answer has anything to do with Redwine, we're in deep kemche. 

    I feel terrible for our safety who tore his Achilles. He had such a great game and that injury is pretty much the worst thing to rehab and overcome. I just hate it. It's especially difficult for us because we prefer the 3 safety look, AND we don't really have the linebackers to play the other way.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick is very inconsistent, but make no mistake, he CAN beat you, and when he's on, he beats you deep. This is why I think our offense is going to have to win our next game. Greedy hasn't been playing all that great against the deep pass, and while he hasn't necessarily given up the long play, it's been rather close. Add in the fact that we're without our stud pass rusher, AND we're not sure Vernon is back, this has the potential to be a game with points scored. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I know, I literally don't have a clue what we're going to do. If the answer has anything to do with Redwine, we're in deep kemche. 

    I feel terrible for our safety who tore his Achilles. He had such a great game and that injury is pretty much the worst thing to rehab and overcome. I just hate it. It's especially difficult for us because we prefer the 3 safety look, AND we don't really have the linebackers to play the other way.

    Ryan Fitzpatrick is very inconsistent, but make no mistake, he CAN beat you, and when he's on, he beats you deep. This is why I think our offense is going to have to win our next game. Greedy hasn't been playing all that great against the deep pass, and while he hasn't necessarily given up the long play, it's been rather close. Add in the fact that we're without our stud pass rusher, AND we're not sure Vernon is back, this has the potential to be a game with points scored. 

    This will be a really good overbet in IMO. Both sides will score plenty.