The Truth about Myles/Rudolph
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I brought this up to several people to include on the board. I just don't get why Garrett would have gone insane like he did without this sort of fact occurring. Honestly, on top of Mason's almost lawyer-esque pre-written speech AND his noted douchy behavior? It's not something to discredit.
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racial slur - Kitchens referred to something rudolph said, that he wouldn't repeat.
sure sounds like a possibility rudoofus baited Miles. on purpose.
at least should be investigated.
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Today, all i've been hearing is how Mason Rudolph also used a racial slur at Myles during the fight before he went berserk.
Like I said before, like the Japanese film Rashomon, there's three different stories. Myles perspective of what happened, Rudolphs perspective of what happened, and what actually happened.
The media only showed the sack and Myles hitting Rudolphs head in slow motion. They left out when Rudolph charged Myles. They painted Rudolph to be the victim and he played the victim.
But when it gels down to the bottomline, he was immensely provoked. I believe I stated this from the beginning, that this is out of character for Myles and that I wouldn't be surprised if Rudolph said something racial or extremely offensive to Myles since he reacted that way. And low and behold, that's what comes out today. Kitchen said he wouldn't repeat what Rudolph told Myles and Rudolph said "Words were said". Apparently they were bad words.
Gipper, Tour, even Cal in many aspects were correct also.
If you look at this situation objectively, Myles dropped Rudolph, he initiated his helmet and tried to take it off first, kicked him in the balls, and called him a racial slur. Then instead of Decastro grabbing Rudolph and holding him back, he grabs Myles, and Rudolph charges him trying to yell something and get a punch in. Then with the only free hand Myles has, he whacks him.
Yes it was a horrible thing to do and Myles should be punished, but the truth comes out. Myles was punched by a man in his car and didn't react. It's totally unlike him to hit Rudolph.
Ask yourself who initiated the fight, who antagonized the fight, who kept it going, who chased after who, and who just snapped because another man was literally trying to fight him.
Ask yourself if Larry O, who was sticking up for his teammate against a punk who initiated a fight against him deserves a suspension for pushing him down.
Rudolph is an entitled Frat Boy and the fact that he didn't get suspended is ridiculous. He should get the same as Myles, I said it from day one.
I wonder how the players in the league are going to treat Rudolph after this information today.
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Did he whisper it into Myles ear?
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Did he whisper it into Myles ear?
Did he whisper it into Myles ear?
Maybe you want to professional lip reader to take a look at that.
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Indefinite suspension upheld, and Pouncey gets a game reduced.
They'll lose, but I'll be shocked if the NFLPA doesn't take this to court.
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It may be "true" or "not true". Pretty definitive title under those circumstances.
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Lost all respect for Garrett...talk about low hanging fruit. He has never been called the n word or worse in his entire career.
Garret has Liabetes.
The CBA doesnt allow indefinite suspensions...so wtf??
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I always assumed something like that was said.
Kitchens was asked in the post game and he said he wouldn’t repeat what he was told. Kinda thought this was a given. Hell, even the old lady at my work said that’s what happened the day after, also noticed how Rudolph had a shit eating grin on his face in the last huddle right after the whole thing happened.
Freaking 60 year old woman casual fan notices this stuff but the NFL can’t figure it out.
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Pouncey got reduced, Rudolph didn't even get suspended, and Ogunjobi and Garrett's penalties are unchanged?
Sounds about right.
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Lost all respect for Garrett...talk about low hanging fruit. He has never been called the n word or worse in his entire career.
Garret has Liabetes.
The CBA doesnt allow indefinite suspensions...so wtf??
Lost all respect for Garrett...talk about low hanging fruit. He has never been called the n word or worse in his entire career.
Garret has Liabetes.
The CBA doesnt allow indefinite suspensions...so wtf??
Dude went to A&M.... I'd bet you my money, car, savings, checking, etc etc that its been dropped on him AT LEAST once.
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So, the league enforcer hands down a suspension which under the CBA is not permitted. The arbirtrator, on appeal, upholds an impermissible suspension. They also uphold the wholly non egregious suspension on Ogunjobi. .. a mere push in the back, which at most should maybe have been a personal foul.......and reduce the the suspension for the act that actually probably caused the most physical damage....the stomp on the head by the Steeler player.
So, two possible things come out of this:
A. By violating the CBA with an impermissible suspension, they clearly, even the arbitrator had ONLY the optics....the PR considerations in view...and not the facts or the "law" (i.e. the terms and agreements of the CBA). And by doing that, they have probably bought themselves a lawsuit. Which, clearly, apparently they could care less about, as they obviously have money to burn
B. And with that, I think they have also painted themselves into a corner in the next CBA negotiations. The NFLPA should never agree to allow something like this to happen again.....where the arbitrator apparently is wholly taking his cues and directives from the league office. I see a fight on their hands over the disciplinary procedures that will be instituted under that next CBA. See my thread on the new CBA for my ideas on that.
C. IF they thought that by sticking to their guns on the suspension was going to give them a public relations push.....they may have just undone all that by totally ignoring the fact that allegedly...and apparently, Rudolph was spewing racial epithets. If that is believed to be true....the league may have a lot of explaining to do about just brushing that fact....the provocation off. That...PLUS, if they continue to blackball Kaepernick (not sure if that has changed) the league will a big problem when dealing with their minority players.\
D. It also brings up the whole: "the league shows favoritism toward certain teams". The Steelers have always been one of those teams. The legacy of the Rooney family has always seemed to make the league favor them. By ignoring the provocation...the physical actions of one of the squib players; by ignoring the provocation of the alleged racial slurs; by their ruling that only the Steeler player gets a reduction in the suspension...that specter of favoritism raises its head, Big Time. Now, Jimmah the worm will not likely even express a little cat's mew in objection to this. He seems to be not only gutless in areas like this, and deferential...he is also completely disrepected and ignored among league ownership circles. I put an article up here somewhere on that as well.
So....what do the Browns do? The one big thing they can...and should do.....Kick the everloving shit out of the Steelers on the field. They are a better team with better players....they SHOULD do that. But then, will the league allow that? Do NOT be surprised if the worst, most fucked up, most bizarre penalties and rulings are made against the Browns in that game. Our owner gets no respect, our HC gets no respect....I think the league may feel that because the Browns have been so crappy for so long that it does not matter to their image if they discriminate against the Browns on many levels. But, our guys have to show up strong even in the face of having to play against the Steelers, the refs, AND against the league office.
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@the-gipper said:
Well, they will just have to suck it up, buttercup. If this suspension is impermissible...they HAVE to challenge it. Or go away.
You can say that again....?
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IDK, ya'll. I truly tend to keep myself objective as possible. You're not going to find me waving a round a #freemyles flag any time soon, and I still think the man deserved a hefty suspension.
I just can't shake the way Rudolph (and his lawyers) have responded to these things the last couple days. I mean, maybe Rudolph is just the typical "my dad's a lawyer" douche who is too much of a coward to speak his mind once he realized he wasn't seen as a golden boy. But with how 'lawyer-esque' his pre-written, no questions statement was yesterday and now hiding behind a lawyer? It's just really odd to me. I'm not going to say I believe one side or the other. But how Rudolph has responded once the dust settles is just suspicious to me.
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Indefinite suspension upheld? So that’s it? Myles either has to sue the NFL or go to Canada to play football?
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