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The Truth about Myles/Rudolph

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  • @tiamat63 said:

    Dude went to A&M....   I'd bet you my money, car, savings, checking, etc etc that its been dropped on him AT LEAST once.  

    Sure.  Everyone loves a bet they'll never know the results of and based entirely off someone's biased instincts.  I say your full of it, when can I pick up the keys?

    @htownbrown said:

    Sure.  Everyone loves a bet they'll never know the results of and based entirely off someone's biased instincts.  I say your full of it, when can I pick up the keys?

    It's more of an expression for those of us that don't take something so literally.

    But you can pick up the keys and take it to Homecoming the minute you pass 5th grade English.    Just make sure to bring it back with a full tank.  

  • Wouldn't put it past that frat-boy piece of shit. His liked a bunch of alt-right tweets and his a proud Trump supporter. I'm sure a large section of the MAGA crowd and piss-stealer fans will say some BS like it's his First Amendment right etc but this is what happens when say racist stuff to black peoples faces instead of behind a mask or keyboard. Hopefully this fires up our mostly African-American Defense and they Tee off on his ass in 10 days. This sorta prove what I said before in an earlier thread. Myles is Mild-Mannered. He does charity around the community, has a bunch of hobbies besides football and was even decked in face by some weirdo earlier in the year after taking a pic with him and shrugged it off and laugh. His was called soft last year by several poster and thou I shall not name called him a "Zumba" a many of times. I'm glad Garrett taught Mason a lesson and hopefully this pulls the team together and Pittsburgh apart as I'm sure someone like Ju-Ju will be looking at the dude sideways from now on.

  • @htownbrown said:

    Sure.  Everyone loves a bet they'll never know the results of and based entirely off someone's biased instincts.  I say your full of it, when can I pick up the keys?

    It's more of an expression for those of us that don't take something so literally.

    But you can pick up the keys and take it to Homecoming the minute you pass 5th grade English.    Just make sure to bring it back with a full tank.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    It's more of an expression for those of us that don't take something so literally.

    But you can pick up the keys and take it to Homecoming the minute you pass 5th grade English.    Just make sure to bring it back with a full tank.  

    So you literally didn't suggest A&M is a racist school?

    YOU'RE being a bit presumptuous. 

  • Indefinite suspension upheld, and Pouncey gets a game reduced.

    They'll lose, but I'll be shocked if the NFLPA doesn't take this to court.

    @jrb12711 said:

    Indefinite suspension upheld, and Pouncey gets a game reduced.

    They'll lose, but I'll be shocked if the NFLPA doesn't take this to court.

    How the fuck did his suspension get reduced?

  • Ok here we go. First off anyone that knows anything about Myles knows he is about as mild tempered as you can get.  So as I have watched the fight several times he is my break down.  First Myles takes down mason.  At this point I imagine Myles had a big smile on his face and probably said something along the lines of it’s all over, or he’ll yeah.  Then cry baby tries to rip his helmet off and this is where I think he said it.    It’s like a switch and he came alive and that’s why he ripped his helmet off like he did.  And this point it’s over and then dick head come back for more.  So after the game during the presser,  kitchens eluded to this saying Myles told me what mason said and I can not repeat it.  If this is true and mason did say it that says a lot about Myles character by not just blurting it out on the field or after the game because of the damage that is caused by that to a reputation. Now me speculating Myles probably though well I know mason is not a racist and just something he said in the moment and the nfl will take this into account and all will be worked out.  Well it didn’t and of course the nfl is fucking the browns and letting the stillers off the hook. 

  • Lost all respect for Garrett...talk about low hanging fruit.  He has never been called the n word or worse in his entire career.

    Garret has Liabetes.

    The CBA doesnt allow indefinite suspensions...so wtf??

    @kvoethe said:

    Lost all respect for Garrett...talk about low hanging fruit.  He has never been called the n word or worse in his entire career.

    Garret has Liabetes.

    The CBA doesnt allow indefinite suspensions...so wtf??

    Why did you lose all respect for Garrett.  Mason was mic'd up. If he truly didn't say it the NFL would release it. They should release it right now. Either it will never see the light of day or it will get corrupted or we will get it in a couple weeks when they have had time to clean the audio. Think about it the last thing the nfl wants right now is a sub par starting white qb caught on tape using a racial slur.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    It's more of an expression for those of us that don't take something so literally.

    But you can pick up the keys and take it to Homecoming the minute you pass 5th grade English.    Just make sure to bring it back with a full tank.  

    So you literally didn't suggest A&M is a racist school?

    YOU'RE being a bit presumptuous. 

    @htownbrown said:

    So you literally didn't suggest A&M is a racist school?

    YOU'RE being a bit presumptuous. 

    The school?  - No

    Some of the people? - Big yes.  

    @bjh2130 said:

    If he truly didn't say it the NFL would release it.

    No. No they won't.  

    I'm not the biggest on conspiracy theories but do you think The Shield is about to let the starting QB for one of their "cornerstone" franchises drop N-Bombs and them release it?   The backlash would be worse than what you see now which is something they cannot afford re: public image.       Besides, it doesn't change the fact that Myles acted a fool.      People can say whatever to get you fucked up, how you respond means the most in the eyes of the refs and the NFL.      Classic phrase "sticks and stones".      edit:  And we already know what Goodell does when he actually has evidence on tape just judging off past incidents. 

  • racial slur - Kitchens referred to something rudolph said, that he wouldn't repeat.

    sure sounds like a possibility rudoofus baited Miles. on purpose.

    at least should be investigated.

    @calfoxwc said:

    racial slur - Kitchens referred to something rudolph said, that he wouldn't repeat.

    sure sounds like a possibility rudoofus baited Miles. on purpose.

    at least should be investigated.

    I really can't believe some are falling for this crap. 

  • I want to believe Myles.   But I truly don't know what to believe.  

  • @jrb12711 said:

    Indefinite suspension upheld, and Pouncey gets a game reduced.

    They'll lose, but I'll be shocked if the NFLPA doesn't take this to court.

    How the fuck did his suspension get reduced?

    @warriorsrpussies said:

    How the fuck did his suspension get reduced?

    The same way anyone does: They hand out punishment, player appeals it, usually gets punishment reduced. Happens all the time. If they feel the infraction is egregious (which they obviously did with Myles) then it doesn't get reduced. No mystery here. 

  • I really can’t believe this happens three years ago and it was two preseason games and one reg, and the Cba says a player can’t be suspended for an on field infraction for the season and they did.  The nfl can’t even follow there own rules when it comes to the browns.  Yet mason gets nothing and pouncy gets two instead of three.  And our other guy gets one, for what? So the nfl is telling us that pushing down a stillers qb is only half as bad as kicking a browns player while he’s on the ground and punching him 6 times.  Ok nfl you have no bias. 

  • I really can’t believe this happens three years ago and it was two preseason games and one reg, and the Cba says a player can’t be suspended for an on field infraction for the season and they did.  The nfl can’t even follow there own rules when it comes to the browns.  Yet mason gets nothing and pouncy gets two instead of three.  And our other guy gets one, for what? So the nfl is telling us that pushing down a stillers qb is only half as bad as kicking a browns player while he’s on the ground and punching him 6 times.  Ok nfl you have no bias. 

    @babernakle said:

    I really can’t believe this happens three years ago and it was two preseason games and one reg, and the Cba says a player can’t be suspended for an on field infraction for the season and they did.  The nfl can’t even follow there own rules when it comes to the browns.  Yet mason gets nothing and pouncy gets two instead of three.  And our other guy gets one, for what? So the nfl is telling us that pushing down a stillers qb is only half as bad as kicking a browns player while he’s on the ground and punching him 6 times.  Ok nfl you have no bias. 

    Browns' fan has to stop playing the role of the victim. It helps nothing. The man swung and hit a player in the naked head with a helmet. He could have killed him. They had to come down hard or risk having their balls sued off.  The NFL knows future suits are coming up re: CTE, etc. ANYTHING related to head trauma must be overly addressed for fear of losing future suits. It is very obvious. They have to build their case at every corner, proving the league did care about limiting CTE across the board. 

  • @htownbrown said:

    So you literally didn't suggest A&M is a racist school?

    YOU'RE being a bit presumptuous. 

    The school?  - No

    Some of the people? - Big yes.  

    @bjh2130 said:

    If he truly didn't say it the NFL would release it.

    No. No they won't.  

    I'm not the biggest on conspiracy theories but do you think The Shield is about to let the starting QB for one of their "cornerstone" franchises drop N-Bombs and them release it?   The backlash would be worse than what you see now which is something they cannot afford re: public image.       Besides, it doesn't change the fact that Myles acted a fool.      People can say whatever to get you fucked up, how you respond means the most in the eyes of the refs and the NFL.      Classic phrase "sticks and stones".      edit:  And we already know what Goodell does when he actually has evidence on tape just judging off past incidents. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    The school?  - No

    Some of the people? - Big yes.  

    With what little you have to go on, that's outrageous and slightly surprising that it's coming from you.

  • The truth about Myles is that he is a liar.

    You've seen this played before. Black man does something criminal, black man plays the race card to draw sympathy. Too bad it was automatic for Myles too.

    liar.jpggif upload site

    https://nypost.com/2019/11/21/browns-teammates-didnt-see-myles-garrett-racial-slur-twist-coming/

  • I'm pretty sure I heard rumors about Rudolph using a racial epithet towards Myles the night that it happened.

    I have no idea where the rumors came from, though.  

    And considering your recent use of the term "Jew Boy" Gorka, I have a sneaking suspicion what your agenda is. 

  • @warriorsrpussies said:

    How the fuck did his suspension get reduced?

    The same way anyone does: They hand out punishment, player appeals it, usually gets punishment reduced. Happens all the time. If they feel the infraction is egregious (which they obviously did with Myles) then it doesn't get reduced. No mystery here. 

    @icecube said:

    The same way anyone does: They hand out punishment, player appeals it, usually gets punishment reduced. Happens all the time. If they feel the infraction is egregious (which they obviously did with Myles) then it doesn't get reduced. No mystery here. 

    Dude kicked someone in the head which is on video yet our guy gets the max. The way the Steelers and Pats get treated in relationship to the rest of NFL is sickening.

  • @htownbrown said:

    So you literally didn't suggest A&M is a racist school?

    YOU'RE being a bit presumptuous. 

    The school?  - No

    Some of the people? - Big yes.  

    @bjh2130 said:

    If he truly didn't say it the NFL would release it.

    No. No they won't.  

    I'm not the biggest on conspiracy theories but do you think The Shield is about to let the starting QB for one of their "cornerstone" franchises drop N-Bombs and them release it?   The backlash would be worse than what you see now which is something they cannot afford re: public image.       Besides, it doesn't change the fact that Myles acted a fool.      People can say whatever to get you fucked up, how you respond means the most in the eyes of the refs and the NFL.      Classic phrase "sticks and stones".      edit:  And we already know what Goodell does when he actually has evidence on tape just judging off past incidents. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    The school?  - No

    Some of the people? - Big yes.  

    No. No they won't.  

    I'm not the biggest on conspiracy theories but do you think The Shield is about to let the starting QB for one of their "cornerstone" franchises drop N-Bombs and them release it?   The backlash would be worse than what you see now which is something they cannot afford re: public image.       Besides, it doesn't change the fact that Myles acted a fool.      People can say whatever to get you fucked up, how you respond means the most in the eyes of the refs and the NFL.      Classic phrase "sticks and stones".      edit:  And we already know what Goodell does when he actually has evidence on tape just judging off past incidents. 

     That's my point if he didn't say it they would release it because it does them no harm. If he did say it they won't admit it or release the audio because everything you just said.  With everything that happened with Kaepernick if there was a subpar white qb who is starting in the league was on tape saying a racial slur it would be an absolute mess. 

  • Gentlemen and Ladies.

    Here again, I will delve into legal matters and I will explain: 

    Why the statement that Miles heard racial slurs out of Rudolph is highly credible.   In fact, it relates to another proceeding that is going on right now wherein related concepts apply.

    It is called the "Exceptions to Hearsay rules" 

    Among other exceptions to this rule are the following:

    (1) Present Sense Impression. A statement describing or explaining an event or condition, made while or immediately after the declarant perceived it.

    (2) Excited Utterance. A statement relating to a startling event or condition, made while the declarant was under the stress of excitement that it caused.

    For purposes of this,  a "statement"  can include an "action"  or "reaction" taken by a person or party.  

    If a person reacts in a certain way to an event or circumstance, and that reaction is made during that event or situation...or immediately after that event occurs...that statement..or reaction in this case,   can....in a trial type situation be given high evidential credibility as to the veracity thereof. 

    So...in this case, we have someone, who under normal circumstances is generally a person of calm demeanor.  But something occurred that incensed him and caused him to act in a wholly uncharacteristic manner. His reaction to that "unknown event"  enraged him and caused him to act in the way we all saw on the video.

    Ergo, his claim that he was incited by being called a racial epithet can be considered highly reliable evidence because of the visible and instantaneous stressful and excited action that occurred. 

  • @babernakle said:

    I really can’t believe this happens three years ago and it was two preseason games and one reg, and the Cba says a player can’t be suspended for an on field infraction for the season and they did.  The nfl can’t even follow there own rules when it comes to the browns.  Yet mason gets nothing and pouncy gets two instead of three.  And our other guy gets one, for what? So the nfl is telling us that pushing down a stillers qb is only half as bad as kicking a browns player while he’s on the ground and punching him 6 times.  Ok nfl you have no bias. 

    Browns' fan has to stop playing the role of the victim. It helps nothing. The man swung and hit a player in the naked head with a helmet. He could have killed him. They had to come down hard or risk having their balls sued off.  The NFL knows future suits are coming up re: CTE, etc. ANYTHING related to head trauma must be overly addressed for fear of losing future suits. It is very obvious. They have to build their case at every corner, proving the league did care about limiting CTE across the board. 

    @icecube said:

    Browns' fan has to stop playing the role of the victim. It helps nothing. The man swung and hit a player in the naked head with a helmet. He could have killed him. They had to come down hard or risk having their balls sued off.  The NFL knows future suits are coming up re: CTE, etc. ANYTHING related to head trauma must be overly addressed for fear of losing future suits. It is very obvious. They have to build their case at every corner, proving the league did care about limiting CTE across the board. 

    First off if the rules are not going to applied equally than what the hell is the point.  And that is the point.  The browns have been at the short end every dam time.  And looking at this say well this or that could of happened is bullshit.  You have to look at the out come and mason got hit with pads.  And the fact that mason got no suspension shows the bias and just how much of a pile of shit this is.

  • The truth about Myles is that he is a liar.

    You've seen this played before. Black man does something criminal, black man plays the race card to draw sympathy. Too bad it was automatic for Myles too.

    liar.jpggif upload site

    https://nypost.com/2019/11/21/browns-teammates-didnt-see-myles-garrett-racial-slur-twist-coming/

    @gorka said:

    The truth about Myles is that he is a liar.

    You've seen this played before. Black man does something criminal, black man plays the race card to draw sympathy. Too bad it was automatic for Myles too.

    liar.jpggif upload site

    https://nypost.com/2019/11/21/browns-teammates-didnt-see-myles-garrett-racial-slur-twist-coming/

    So Mason's lawyer came out and said he didn't.  Surprise. It's exactly what he should say.

    That's a typical misleading headline. All his teammates said they weren't aware (none were near the play) but myles is not one to lie about it. Again exactly what you would expect them to say they aren't gonna call their teammate a liar. Mason rudolph was mic'd up. This is very easily proven true or 95% proven false but the nfl will not release audio