The Truth about Myles/Rudolph
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First... no one was "mic'd up" for the game. NFL Films does the mic'ing up and they did not elect to do so that nite. That said.... A nationally televised game gets more cameras and field mics than regional games, so there might be some sound out there somewhere...
Second... appeals are all about impressing the appeals honchos with your sincere regrets for whatever you did... and that starts with how you dress. I saw MG arriving at the league office and literally said aloud, "Oh shit." He wore an electric blue suit over a turtleneck to a setting that demanded a medium gray over a white shirt with a dark green tie. Visuals matter... I assure you Myles started off in a hole.
On top of the above he springs "the slur". True or not it rings of excuse... and that's not what you want to project.
I agree with those that expect the NFLPA to sue.
Last... Today, NFL Live essentially did an entire show on Myles' "revelation". Consensus was that while , if true, it helped to understand his reaction, it would not impact his punishment. Only one "panelist", Ryan Clark, commented that they had already heard that a slur was involved.
Ryan also alluded to Rudolph having some social media history with "racial issues" ... deleted tweets and the like... but neither Ryan nor google has elaborated.
I have to restate that to not have replaced "indefinite" with a number, is just wrong...
If he told the truth, or more importantly his truth that's all that matters to me.
But honestly man, I have a hard time thinking the NFL isn't biased against the Browns. Maybe it's because our town had a fit after they moved us to Baltimore, I just don't get it.
The Patriots, Steelers, and other teams constantly get off the hook and the media is always looking for ways to tear us down.
I'd love to win out more than anything just to get them to shutup.
I can even remember talking heads on ESPN saying we weren't good and the Ravens just played bad when we beat them. We never get any credit.
Freddie is growing on me. Sure, he's in over his head, but he's taking steps to be a leader and keep the team together.
Hopefully this makes the team come together stronger.
The Patriots, Steelers, and other teams constantly get off the hook and the media is always looking for ways to tear us down.
Robert Kraft was getting rub and tugs from human trafficked women (he got off of a rich people technicality) and Roger boy was dead silent, no fine. Trust me, that man did it too-I live no more than 20 minutes from there and have heard VERY believable stories. Irsay admittedly was hammered and out of control and almost got asked to sell the team. It's not even a secret-the Roonies are best buddies with Goddell too.
Larry's suspension was upheld because his actions "could have restarted the fight". Yet somehow Pouncey's actions weren't, even though he was literally kicking a man on the ground in the head? And his gets reduced? Officials and the league are crooked to owners and franchises. Not talking backwater gambling, but just watching the game it's obvious nowadays. I'm honestly not too sure how much longer I can take it.
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The Patriots, Steelers, and other teams constantly get off the hook and the media is always looking for ways to tear us down.
Robert Kraft was getting rub and tugs from human trafficked women (he got off of a rich people technicality) and Roger boy was dead silent, no fine. Trust me, that man did it too-I live no more than 20 minutes from there and have heard VERY believable stories. Irsay admittedly was hammered and out of control and almost got asked to sell the team. It's not even a secret-the Roonies are best buddies with Goddell too.
Larry's suspension was upheld because his actions "could have restarted the fight". Yet somehow Pouncey's actions weren't, even though he was literally kicking a man on the ground in the head? And his gets reduced? Officials and the league are crooked to owners and franchises. Not talking backwater gambling, but just watching the game it's obvious nowadays. I'm honestly not too sure how much longer I can take it.
Robert Kraft was getting rub and tugs from human trafficked women (he got off of a rich people technicality) and Roger boy was dead silent, no fine. Trust me, that man did it too-I live no more than 20 minutes from there and have heard VERY believable stories. Irsay admittedly was hammered and out of control and almost got asked to sell the team. It's not even a secret-the Roonies are best buddies with Goddell too.
Larry's suspension was upheld because his actions "could have restarted the fight". Yet somehow Pouncey's actions weren't, even though he was literally kicking a man on the ground in the head? Officials and the league are crooked to owners and franchises. Not talking backwater gambling, but just watching the game it's obvious nowadays. I'm honestly not too sure how much longer I can take it.
I'm reposting because it's true. And how the heyl can rudolph's charge at Garrett not be called a "possible re-escalation".
I'm not buyin what goodhell, troy vincent etc are selling.
meanwhile, more stupidity:
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Careful there. You are treading on cal territory now. He be mad!?
Like I say cal is the expert in conspiracies here. If you make any conspiracy type comments you are required to send him $10 as he has a corner on the market.?
Nah. It's just that I, unlike, try to honestly explain the facts as we know them, and I try to figure out what they mean. The list of examples would be lengthy over the years. The video is out there. I watch other teams play the Patriots, I see favoritism there too. I try to account for mistakes by referees. Some no calls, ...nope. There is no reason to try to excuse some of those. And they happen right IN FRONT of the referee. I honestly didn't know landing on the qb was a penalty until they called Miles for it, then again on the next play.
So, THIS play, he was careful to spin the qb onto himself, and he still gets the qb .....
I watched Baker get landed on full weight on top of him....
no call.
Try to be honest and drop the personal attacks when you are wrong, Tex. Actually, a friend of mine told me the refs screw up all over the NFL. After the last Browns-Squealer game, he was po'd - said there is no way in hell rudolph should not be suspended for at least one game. That I was right about it.
Nah. It's just that I, unlike, try to honestly explain the facts as we know them, and I try to figure out what they mean. The list of examples would be lengthy over the years. The video is out there. I watch other teams play the Patriots, I see favoritism there too. I try to account for mistakes by referees. Some no calls, ...nope. There is no reason to try to excuse some of those. And they happen right IN FRONT of the referee. I honestly didn't know landing on the qb was a penalty until they called Miles for it, then again on the next play.
So, THIS play, he was careful to spin the qb onto himself, and he still gets the qb .....
I watched Baker get landed on full weight on top of him....
no call.
Try to be honest and drop the personal attacks when you are wrong, Tex. Actually, a friend of mine told me the refs screw up all over the NFL. After the last Browns-Squealer game, he was po'd - said there is no way in hell rudolph should not be suspended for at least one game. That I was right about it.
Wrong about what?
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Again...why are we just hearing bout the racial epithet now...please.....dude is lying..
Just admit you lost your shit...agree to counseling and get your suspension overwith.
Once again, it was rumored the night of the game that Rudolph did this. This isn't just coming out of nowhere.
Once again, it was rumored the night of the game that Rudolph did this. This isn't just coming out of nowhere.
The fuck up part that idiot has no idea what he talking about as Mason is a proud and open Trump supporter and has liked tweets from that racist whore Tomi Lahren and self-loathing Ben Shapiro. Liberal he is not.
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Careful there. You are treading on cal territory now. He be mad!?
Lol after Pouncey's suspension is reduced and Garrett is still in limbo?
Lol after Pouncey's suspension is reduced and Garrett is still in limbo?
I guess punching someone and kicking them in the head isn’t as bad as the NFL perceived it to be.
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I’m not much into conspiracy theories, but even Joe Thomas said on the NFL Network that there are typically at least 2 offensive linemen mic’d up every game.
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^^You're also talking about a guy who absolutely, undoubtedly have the video proof Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out and only reacted when the video leaked.
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Careful there. You are treading on cal territory now. He be mad!?
Like I say cal is the expert in conspiracies here. If you make any conspiracy type comments you are required to send him $10 as he has a corner on the market.?
Nah. It's just that I, unlike, try to honestly explain the facts as we know them, and I try to figure out what they mean. The list of examples would be lengthy over the years. The video is out there. I watch other teams play the Patriots, I see favoritism there too. I try to account for mistakes by referees. Some no calls, ...nope. There is no reason to try to excuse some of those. And they happen right IN FRONT of the referee. I honestly didn't know landing on the qb was a penalty until they called Miles for it, then again on the next play.
So, THIS play, he was careful to spin the qb onto himself, and he still gets the qb .....
I watched Baker get landed on full weight on top of him....
no call.
Try to be honest and drop the personal attacks when you are wrong, Tex. Actually, a friend of mine told me the refs screw up all over the NFL. After the last Browns-Squealer game, he was po'd - said there is no way in hell rudolph should not be suspended for at least one game. That I was right about it.
Nah. It's just that I, unlike, try to honestly explain the facts as we know them, and I try to figure out what they mean. The list of examples would be lengthy over the years. The video is out there. I watch other teams play the Patriots, I see favoritism there too. I try to account for mistakes by referees. Some no calls, ...nope. There is no reason to try to excuse some of those. And they happen right IN FRONT of the referee. I honestly didn't know landing on the qb was a penalty until they called Miles for it, then again on the next play.
So, THIS play, he was careful to spin the qb onto himself, and he still gets the qb .....
I watched Baker get landed on full weight on top of him....
no call.
Try to be honest and drop the personal attacks when you are wrong, Tex. Actually, a friend of mine told me the refs screw up all over the NFL. After the last Browns-Squealer game, he was po'd - said there is no way in hell rudolph should not be suspended for at least one game. That I was right about it.
Regarding the Patriots getting special treatment. The Kraft thing is just one example. Could you imagine what would have happened if Garrett had done the same thing to Saint Thomas in Gillette? They would have taken him outside the stadium and had the Minutemen shoot him.
Anyway after this one, can this Browns season get any weirder?
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^^You're also talking about a guy who absolutely, undoubtedly have the video proof Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out and only reacted when the video leaked.
^^You're also talking about a guy who absolutely, undoubtedly have the video proof Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out and only reacted when the video leaked.
MHO? Things might have been handled a little differently if that hadn't been a nationally televised game.... And Good-hell had better determine that the rest of the season is plenty enough punishment for Myles. I won't be in the least surprised if this isn't the end of it- the NFLPA may take it to court saying this suspension violated the terms of their contract with the league.....
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^^You're also talking about a guy who absolutely, undoubtedly have the video proof Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out and only reacted when the video leaked.
MHO? Things might have been handled a little differently if that hadn't been a nationally televised game.... And Good-hell had better determine that the rest of the season is plenty enough punishment for Myles. I won't be in the least surprised if this isn't the end of it- the NFLPA may take it to court saying this suspension violated the terms of their contract with the league.....
MHO? Things might have been handled a little differently if that hadn't been a nationally televised game.... And Good-hell had better determine that the rest of the season is plenty enough punishment for Myles. I won't be in the least surprised if this isn't the end of it- the NFLPA may take it to court saying this suspension violated the terms of their contract with the league.....
To take things a step further, after Rudolph got dinged in the noggin’ he wasn’t taken to the blue tent for concussion protocol.
If the NFL was that serious about CTE, you would think they would’ve at least pretended to care about checking him out.
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^^You're also talking about a guy who absolutely, undoubtedly have the video proof Ray Rice knocked his girlfriend out and only reacted when the video leaked.
MHO? Things might have been handled a little differently if that hadn't been a nationally televised game.... And Good-hell had better determine that the rest of the season is plenty enough punishment for Myles. I won't be in the least surprised if this isn't the end of it- the NFLPA may take it to court saying this suspension violated the terms of their contract with the league.....
MHO? Things might have been handled a little differently if that hadn't been a nationally televised game.... And Good-hell had better determine that the rest of the season is plenty enough punishment for Myles. I won't be in the least surprised if this isn't the end of it- the NFLPA may take it to court saying this suspension violated the terms of their contract with the league.....
I thought surely they would reduce it to the rest of the season because of that, which I did read elsewhere.
but they didn't. They want the NFLPA to sue? Or they are happy to keep it on until the length of time it takes to sue them?
I hope there is audio of the racial slur - I'd hope Garrett sues Rudolph's attorney for slander.
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MHO? Things might have been handled a little differently if that hadn't been a nationally televised game.... And Good-hell had better determine that the rest of the season is plenty enough punishment for Myles. I won't be in the least surprised if this isn't the end of it- the NFLPA may take it to court saying this suspension violated the terms of their contract with the league.....
To take things a step further, after Rudolph got dinged in the noggin’ he wasn’t taken to the blue tent for concussion protocol.
If the NFL was that serious about CTE, you would think they would’ve at least pretended to care about checking him out.
To take things a step further, after Rudolph got dinged in the noggin’ he wasn’t taken to the blue tent for concussion protocol.
If the NFL was that serious about CTE, you would think they would’ve at least pretended to care about checking him out.
I still can't explain rudolph seeing the helmet come at him, and ...only turn his head.
No ducking? I would duck if I saw it coming. What kind of nutjob qb goes after Garrett the last time, AFTER Garrett was letting himself be restrained and pulled well away?
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Nah. It's just that I, unlike, try to honestly explain the facts as we know them, and I try to figure out what they mean. The list of examples would be lengthy over the years. The video is out there. I watch other teams play the Patriots, I see favoritism there too. I try to account for mistakes by referees. Some no calls, ...nope. There is no reason to try to excuse some of those. And they happen right IN FRONT of the referee. I honestly didn't know landing on the qb was a penalty until they called Miles for it, then again on the next play.
So, THIS play, he was careful to spin the qb onto himself, and he still gets the qb .....
I watched Baker get landed on full weight on top of him....
no call.
Try to be honest and drop the personal attacks when you are wrong, Tex. Actually, a friend of mine told me the refs screw up all over the NFL. After the last Browns-Squealer game, he was po'd - said there is no way in hell rudolph should not be suspended for at least one game. That I was right about it.
Regarding the Patriots getting special treatment. The Kraft thing is just one example. Could you imagine what would have happened if Garrett had done the same thing to Saint Thomas in Gillette? They would have taken him outside the stadium and had the Minutemen shoot him.
Anyway after this one, can this Browns season get any weirder?
Regarding the Patriots getting special treatment. The Kraft thing is just one example. Could you imagine what would have happened if Garrett had done the same thing to Saint Thomas in Gillette? They would have taken him outside the stadium and had the Minutemen shoot him.
Anyway after this one, can this Browns season get any weirder?
Brady would not have been so classless as to try to poke a guys eyes out, call him racial slurs, kick him in the nuts...and then go after him.
Brady has a LOT more sense than that, obviously.
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I have to agree with you on all counts. One thing that I haven't heard anywhere else comes from Locked On Browns podcast immediately following the game, and the guest commentator said someone told him he overheard Myles calling Rudolph a cracker ass bitch or something like that. I'd have to listen again to the show, but he definitely said something to that extent, and it reinforces that there was a racial component to the incident. Now of course NONE of this is substantiated, but it was the first and only time I heard anything about Myles calling Rudolph a name. The podcast made it seem like Garrett was extremely upset (duh) and saying all kinds of things.
Bottom line is we're not likely to ever know what happened. My gut feeling is that Rudolph definitely said SOMETHING to escalate the situation, but I actually have a hard time believing he dropped an N bomb with so many people who might hear it, ya know? There are certain lines you don't cross, but then again, SOMETHING got Myles fired up, so who really knows?
Who really knows what got Myles fired up???
Look at the video when Myles right after he wrapped up Rudolf and threw him to the ground. Poor Rudolf didn't like it and began pulling Myles helmet off his head. Imagine another player trying to pull your helmet off. I'd certainly be pissed. That's when it gets personal.
Watch carefully at :32, Rudolf nearly has Myles helmet half way off! Racial slur my fucking ass.
Watch carefully at :32, Rudolf nearly has Myles helmet half way off! Racial slur my fucking ass.
Just because you have to decide between speaking and doing anything else, doesn't mean Mason has to...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So much to wade thru....
- I can find nothing that says the NFL mics up players. NFL Films does, but has stated they did not mic up any Thursday nite.
- If Freddie was told by MG about the slur, he has to publicly say so.
- It's hard to take anyone with the twitter handle of Roberto Shenanigans seriously.... but...
- If a soundman working the game heard or has proof of a sound bite capturing the "slur", then he has to come forward. Since his name is out there (Andrew Dickerson) he's nothing to lose.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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So much to wade thru....
- I can find nothing that says the NFL mics up players. NFL Films does, but has stated they did not mic up any Thursday nite.
- If Freddie was told by MG about the slur, he has to publicly say so.
- It's hard to take anyone with the twitter handle of Roberto Shenanigans seriously.... but...
- If a soundman working the game heard or has proof of a sound bite capturing the "slur", then he has to come forward. Since his name is out there (Andrew Dickerson) he's nothing to lose.
So much to wade thru....
- I can find nothing that says the NFL mics up players. NFL Films does, but has stated they did not mic up any Thursday nite.
- If Freddie was told by MG about the slur, he has to publicly say so.
- It's hard to take anyone with the twitter handle of Roberto Shenanigans seriously.... but...
- If a soundman working the game heard or has proof of a sound bite capturing the "slur", then he has to come forward. Since his name is out there (Andrew Dickerson) he's nothing to lose.
The networks will typically mic up an interior lineman to catch the calls/audibles of the QB.
This audio isn’t usually recorded, just used during the broadcast.
I also found out that MG was wearing a mic the previous week vs the Bills.
He was wired for the in house TV show “Building the Browns”.
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Haha Myles: "I know what I heard". That's right Myles, keep sticking to your lie cause you aint got no choice.
What did the Red Nose steeler do Myles, whisper it into your ear? Twenty players on the field , surely someone could vouch for you.
You guys paint Rudolf a racial slur guy just so you can defend Myles. Rudolf aint no racial slur guy. He's clearly a pajama boy liberal fucktard Pittsburgh squeeler.
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Roger Goodell needs to be fired, the way the NFL handled this is a disgrace. They suspended Myles almost instantly after this incident happened, didn't even wait for any details to emerge, no due process. The first thing we should have saw was Roger Goodell in a press conference immediately following the game stating what an UNFORTUNATE incident this was and they will do their due diligence investigating this and all parties will be disciplined accordingly. Instead Myles go directly to the guillotine and Rudolph is almost completely absolved of any wrong doing all the while social media is calling him to be banned for life or to be sitting in jail.
If it wasn't for Roger Rabbit be so quick on the trigger to suspend Myles, his suspension might not be so lengthy. Roger made a knee jerk reaction and suspended Myles just to appease social media and Stoolers fans.
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