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  • Yes, diminished... as was MG's assertion.

    I've attributed Freddie's silence to not betraying a confidence,in. However, in light of the NFL hearing leak, to continue down that path seems by far to be the lesser of his options in serving MG's interest. So I can give Freddie's being told something no weight.

    @tour2ma said:

    Yes, diminished... as was MG's assertion.

    I've attributed Freddie's silence to not betraying a confidence,in. However, in light of the NFL hearing leak, to continue down that path seems by far to be the lesser of his options in serving MG's interest. So I can give Freddie's being told something no weight.

    I haven't read 20% of the thread, but here it is what I think: 

    Myles drags him, they exchange words and Mason says SOMETHING that infuriates Myles and sets everything off. Myles, ashamed, doesn't speak to nobody but his coach, knowing that he shouldn't have reacted that way, no matter the word, even if it is the N-word. (it's a disgusting word, but if someone whispers it and it sets you off you're only acting the way the "offender" wants you to).  

    Myles wasn't called the N-word, but something else. His agent and lawyer, knowing that it is his only possible defense, convince him to declare it using the N word, because in the end it was an offensive word what set him off. 

    Someone leaks it, and the NFL has audio evidence of both players in the wrong (Mason saying something he shouldn't, Myles being proved a liar), so Godell decides not to take any further actions. 

    That makes sense to me. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yes, diminished... as was MG's assertion.

    I've attributed Freddie's silence to not betraying a confidence,in. However, in light of the NFL hearing leak, to continue down that path seems by far to be the lesser of his options in serving MG's interest. So I can give Freddie's being told something no weight.

    I haven't read 20% of the thread, but here it is what I think: 

    Myles drags him, they exchange words and Mason says SOMETHING that infuriates Myles and sets everything off. Myles, ashamed, doesn't speak to nobody but his coach, knowing that he shouldn't have reacted that way, no matter the word, even if it is the N-word. (it's a disgusting word, but if someone whispers it and it sets you off you're only acting the way the "offender" wants you to).  

    Myles wasn't called the N-word, but something else. His agent and lawyer, knowing that it is his only possible defense, convince him to declare it using the N word, because in the end it was an offensive word what set him off. 

    Someone leaks it, and the NFL has audio evidence of both players in the wrong (Mason saying something he shouldn't, Myles being proved a liar), so Godell decides not to take any further actions. 

    That makes sense to me. 

    @nero said:

    I haven't read 20% of the thread, but here it is what I think: 

    Myles drags him, they exchange words and Mason says SOMETHING that infuriates Myles and sets everything off. Myles, ashamed, doesn't speak to nobody but his coach, knowing that he shouldn't have reacted that way, no matter the word, even if it is the N-word. (it's a disgusting word, but if someone whispers it and it sets you off you're only acting the way the "offender" wants you to).  

    Myles wasn't called the N-word, but something else. His agent and lawyer, knowing that it is his only possible defense, convince him to declare it using the N word, because in the end it was an offensive word what set him off. 

    Someone leaks it, and the NFL has audio evidence of both players in the wrong (Mason saying something he shouldn't, Myles being proved a liar), so Godell decides not to take any further actions. 

    That makes sense to me. 

    But no one ever confirmed that Myles claimed he said the n word just that Rudolph used a racial slur.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

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    What is missing here is the two Steelers offensive linemen holding Garrett down.

  • @flyingfooldoug said:

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    What is missing here is the two Steelers offensive linemen holding Garrett down.

    @onkyoreceiver said:

    What is missing here is the two Steelers offensive linemen holding Garrett down.

    That is really clever !

    (but you need to smack the guy holding the stick first they wrestle him to the ground trying to unscrew his head and kick him in the nuts.....more realistic! 😆)

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yes, diminished... as was MG's assertion.

    I've attributed Freddie's silence to not betraying a confidence,in. However, in light of the NFL hearing leak, to continue down that path seems by far to be the lesser of his options in serving MG's interest. So I can give Freddie's being told something no weight.

    I haven't read 20% of the thread, but here it is what I think: 

    Myles drags him, they exchange words and Mason says SOMETHING that infuriates Myles and sets everything off. Myles, ashamed, doesn't speak to nobody but his coach, knowing that he shouldn't have reacted that way, no matter the word, even if it is the N-word. (it's a disgusting word, but if someone whispers it and it sets you off you're only acting the way the "offender" wants you to).  

    Myles wasn't called the N-word, but something else. His agent and lawyer, knowing that it is his only possible defense, convince him to declare it using the N word, because in the end it was an offensive word what set him off. 

    Someone leaks it, and the NFL has audio evidence of both players in the wrong (Mason saying something he shouldn't, Myles being proved a liar), so Godell decides not to take any further actions. 

    That makes sense to me. 

    @nero said:

    I haven't read 20% of the thread, but here it is what I think: 

    Myles drags him, they exchange words and Mason says SOMETHING that infuriates Myles and sets everything off. Myles, ashamed, doesn't speak to nobody but his coach, knowing that he shouldn't have reacted that way, no matter the word, even if it is the N-word. (it's a disgusting word, but if someone whispers it and it sets you off you're only acting the way the "offender" wants you to).  

    Myles wasn't called the N-word, but something else. His agent and lawyer, knowing that it is his only possible defense, convince him to declare it using the N word, because in the end it was an offensive word what set him off. 

    Someone leaks it, and the NFL has audio evidence of both players in the wrong (Mason saying something he shouldn't, Myles being proved a liar), so Godell decides not to take any further actions. 

    That makes sense to me. 

    No, it doesn't....not one damned bit......because you have the fact pattern all wrong.   Whatever was said by Rudolph was said while the two of them were on the ground wrestling.   It was what Rudolph said, along with him trying to wrench Garrett's helmet off that  infuriated him....causing him to then drag Rudolph by the helmet. 

  • @nero said:

    I haven't read 20% of the thread, but here it is what I think: 

    Myles drags him, they exchange words and Mason says SOMETHING that infuriates Myles and sets everything off. Myles, ashamed, doesn't speak to nobody but his coach, knowing that he shouldn't have reacted that way, no matter the word, even if it is the N-word. (it's a disgusting word, but if someone whispers it and it sets you off you're only acting the way the "offender" wants you to).  

    Myles wasn't called the N-word, but something else. His agent and lawyer, knowing that it is his only possible defense, convince him to declare it using the N word, because in the end it was an offensive word what set him off. 

    Someone leaks it, and the NFL has audio evidence of both players in the wrong (Mason saying something he shouldn't, Myles being proved a liar), so Godell decides not to take any further actions. 

    That makes sense to me. 

    No, it doesn't....not one damned bit......because you have the fact pattern all wrong.   Whatever was said by Rudolph was said while the two of them were on the ground wrestling.   It was what Rudolph said, along with him trying to wrench Garrett's helmet off that  infuriated him....causing him to then drag Rudolph by the helmet. 

    @the-gipper said:

    No, it doesn't....not one damned bit......because you have the fact pattern all wrong.   Whatever was said by Rudolph was said while the two of them were on the ground wrestling.   It was what Rudolph said, along with him trying to wrench Garrett's helmet off that  infuriated him....causing him to then drag Rudolph by the helmet. 

    We're not sure what he was called, but I've heard rumors it was the b word (boy).

    Regardless of what was said, Rudolph looked weak in his response and guilty.

  • heh.

    James Thrash is a former teammate of the other two yahoos. Go figure.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/22/james-thrash-complains-about-social-media-reaction-to-his-myles-garrett-decision/

    On Thursday, former NFL receiver James Thrash upheld the NFL’s indefinite suspension of Browns defensive end Myles Garrett. The decision prompted a reaction on social media.

    Thrash has reacted to the reaction.

    “Please stop tweeting me about the decision,” Thrash tweeted late Thursday afternoon. “This was a grueling process and the outcome is final. Player safety is what’s most important!!!”

    *************************************************************

    That logic goes out with the trash, Thrash. Player safety? what the hell about getting your helmet nearly ripped off, and kicked in the groin? starting the entire fiasco in the first place? what happened to the studio guy who said he HEARD it said ? Where is that audio? Did you interview the guy who said he heard it? Why didn't you suspend mason for at least one game?

    Player safety your ass. It's "superbowl teams make big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for the NFL". AND, as Josh Cribbs is saying - "indefinite suspension" is not permitted in your so-called "rule book" that is supposed to apply to ALL TEAMS, NOT just your superbowl money making favorites !

        Fans all over...most of the NFL - see how your "rules" don't apply when you don't want them to - and how your suspensions are not consistent. I wish I could Tweet you, you twit". (whine much?)

  • Licky boom boom down

  • heh.

    James Thrash is a former teammate of the other two yahoos. Go figure.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/22/james-thrash-complains-about-social-media-reaction-to-his-myles-garrett-decision/

    On Thursday, former NFL receiver James Thrash upheld the NFL’s indefinite suspension of Browns defensive end Myles Garrett. The decision prompted a reaction on social media.

    Thrash has reacted to the reaction.

    “Please stop tweeting me about the decision,” Thrash tweeted late Thursday afternoon. “This was a grueling process and the outcome is final. Player safety is what’s most important!!!”

    *************************************************************

    That logic goes out with the trash, Thrash. Player safety? what the hell about getting your helmet nearly ripped off, and kicked in the groin? starting the entire fiasco in the first place? what happened to the studio guy who said he HEARD it said ? Where is that audio? Did you interview the guy who said he heard it? Why didn't you suspend mason for at least one game?

    Player safety your ass. It's "superbowl teams make big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for the NFL". AND, as Josh Cribbs is saying - "indefinite suspension" is not permitted in your so-called "rule book" that is supposed to apply to ALL TEAMS, NOT just your superbowl money making favorites !

        Fans all over...most of the NFL - see how your "rules" don't apply when you don't want them to - and how your suspensions are not consistent. I wish I could Tweet you, you twit". (whine much?)

    @calfoxwc said:

    heh.

    James Thrash is a former teammate of the other two yahoos. Go figure.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/22/james-thrash-complains-about-social-media-reaction-to-his-myles-garrett-decision/

    On Thursday, former NFL receiver James Thrash upheld the NFL’s indefinite suspension of Browns defensive end Myles Garrett. The decision prompted a reaction on social media.

    Thrash has reacted to the reaction.

    “Please stop tweeting me about the decision,” Thrash tweeted late Thursday afternoon. “This was a grueling process and the outcome is final. Player safety is what’s most important!!!”

    *************************************************************

    That logic goes out with the trash, Thrash. Player safety? what the hell about getting your helmet nearly ripped off, and kicked in the groin? starting the entire fiasco in the first place? what happened to the studio guy who said he HEARD it said ? Where is that audio? Did you interview the guy who said he heard it? Why didn't you suspend mason for at least one game?

    Player safety your ass. It's "superbowl teams make big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for the NFL". AND, as Josh Cribbs is saying - "indefinite suspension" is not permitted in your so-called "rule book" that is supposed to apply to ALL TEAMS, NOT just your superbowl money making favorites !

        Fans all over...most of the NFL - see how your "rules" don't apply when you don't want them to - and how your suspensions are not consistent. I wish I could Tweet you, you twit". (whine much?)

    OK.  Yes, absolutely....this basically confirms that the ruling was NOT based on facts/evidence....but on optics/public relations.   While player safety, yes, is important....it is a bullshit corporate line that he gives.    If he were honest he could say:  We have to punish players harshly who conduct themselves in this egregious manner...using a helmet as a potential weapon...that "could have"  done serious harm to another player.    That would have been at least an honest answer.  But,  The thing is....he is basing his ruling on the "what could have happened"  and not on what did happen. 

    Disingenuous all around. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    No, it doesn't....not one damned bit......because you have the fact pattern all wrong.   Whatever was said by Rudolph was said while the two of them were on the ground wrestling.   It was what Rudolph said, along with him trying to wrench Garrett's helmet off that  infuriated him....causing him to then drag Rudolph by the helmet. 

    We're not sure what he was called, but I've heard rumors it was the b word (boy).

    Regardless of what was said, Rudolph looked weak in his response and guilty.

    @stillmotion said:

    We're not sure what he was called, but I've heard rumors it was the b word (boy).

    Regardless of what was said, Rudolph looked weak in his response and guilty.

    If this is true then my suspicions are correct. A word with a degree of plausible deniability, but a word that cuts nonetheless. 

    Frustrated people reach for words that cut.  I have little tolerance for this kind of shit. It’s where intelligence meets racism and l prefer my racists to be dumb as shit so that l can spend less time identifying and dismissing them. 

  • @stillmotion said:

    We're not sure what he was called, but I've heard rumors it was the b word (boy).

    Regardless of what was said, Rudolph looked weak in his response and guilty.

    If this is true then my suspicions are correct. A word with a degree of plausible deniability, but a word that cuts nonetheless. 

    Frustrated people reach for words that cut.  I have little tolerance for this kind of shit. It’s where intelligence meets racism and l prefer my racists to be dumb as shit so that l can spend less time identifying and dismissing them. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    If this is true then my suspicions are correct. A word with a degree of plausible deniability, but a word that cuts nonetheless. 

    Frustrated people reach for words that cut.  I have little tolerance for this kind of shit. It’s where intelligence meets racism and l prefer my racists to be dumb as shit so that l can spend less time identifying and dismissing them. 

    You must be in all your glory with the MAGA crowd then... ?

  • @nero said:

    I haven't read 20% of the thread, but here it is what I think: 

    Myles drags him, they exchange words and Mason says SOMETHING that infuriates Myles and sets everything off. Myles, ashamed, doesn't speak to nobody but his coach, knowing that he shouldn't have reacted that way, no matter the word, even if it is the N-word. (it's a disgusting word, but if someone whispers it and it sets you off you're only acting the way the "offender" wants you to).  

    Myles wasn't called the N-word, but something else. His agent and lawyer, knowing that it is his only possible defense, convince him to declare it using the N word, because in the end it was an offensive word what set him off. 

    Someone leaks it, and the NFL has audio evidence of both players in the wrong (Mason saying something he shouldn't, Myles being proved a liar), so Godell decides not to take any further actions. 

    That makes sense to me. 

    No, it doesn't....not one damned bit......because you have the fact pattern all wrong.   Whatever was said by Rudolph was said while the two of them were on the ground wrestling.   It was what Rudolph said, along with him trying to wrench Garrett's helmet off that  infuriated him....causing him to then drag Rudolph by the helmet. 

    @the-gipper said:

    No, it doesn't....not one damned bit......because you have the fact pattern all wrong.   Whatever was said by Rudolph was said while the two of them were on the ground wrestling.   It was what Rudolph said, along with him trying to wrench Garrett's helmet off that  infuriated him....causing him to then drag Rudolph by the helmet. 

    You are basing this totally on what Myles said happened. As of right now, there is no proof that Rudolph said anything. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    No, it doesn't....not one damned bit......because you have the fact pattern all wrong.   Whatever was said by Rudolph was said while the two of them were on the ground wrestling.   It was what Rudolph said, along with him trying to wrench Garrett's helmet off that  infuriated him....causing him to then drag Rudolph by the helmet. 

    We're not sure what he was called, but I've heard rumors it was the b word (boy).

    Regardless of what was said, Rudolph looked weak in his response and guilty.

    @stillmotion said:

    We're not sure what he was called, but I've heard rumors it was the b word (boy).

    Regardless of what was said, Rudolph looked weak in his response and guilty.

    As i said in the Tavern Sunday.... Rudolph played vs Cinci like he had a guilty conscience.

  • Nice Freudian slip there Mason..."It's totally tru...UNTRUE"

    Brooke Pryor@bepryor
    Mason Rudolph on Myles Garrett’s accusation he used a racial slur in the Cleveland fight:

    “It’s totally untrue. I couldn’t believe it. I couldn’t believe he would go that route after the fact.”

    @poeticg said:

    Nice Freudian slip there Mason..."It's totally tru...UNTRUE"

               Welcome Back to Steeler Week Mason!!

  • say, go look at the ratbuzzards' Mark Ingram, running back - they are playing the rams right now. Look at his dark visor. On a night game.

    Remember when OBJ was instructed to leave the field during a scoring drive, to put on a clear visor?

    Does anybody think Ingram will have to also leave the field and put on a clear visor?

    stay tuned. I don't think so.

  • say, go look at the ratbuzzards' Mark Ingram, running back - they are playing the rams right now. Look at his dark visor. On a night game.

    Remember when OBJ was instructed to leave the field during a scoring drive, to put on a clear visor?

    Does anybody think Ingram will have to also leave the field and put on a clear visor?

    stay tuned. I don't think so.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Does anybody think Ingram will have to also leave the field and put on a clear visor?

    stay tuned. I don't think so.

    in August of this year, the nfl changed their visor rules when Oakley paid them as a sponsor.. Oakley can only be worn in NFL.money talks. ObJ's was reported as not Oakley

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Does anybody think Ingram will have to also leave the field and put on a clear visor?

    stay tuned. I don't think so.

    in August of this year, the nfl changed their visor rules when Oakley paid them as a sponsor.. Oakley can only be worn in NFL.money talks. ObJ's was reported as not Oakley

    @gumby73 said:

    in August of this year, the nfl changed their visor rules when Oakley paid them as a sponsor.. Oakley can only be worn in NFL.money talks. ObJ's was reported as not Oakley

    Way to fuck up another Kal perceived slight...

  • @the-gipper said:

    No, it doesn't....not one damned bit......because you have the fact pattern all wrong.   Whatever was said by Rudolph was said while the two of them were on the ground wrestling.   It was what Rudolph said, along with him trying to wrench Garrett's helmet off that  infuriated him....causing him to then drag Rudolph by the helmet. 

    You are basing this totally on what Myles said happened. As of right now, there is no proof that Rudolph said anything. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    You are basing this totally on what Myles said happened. As of right now, there is no proof that Rudolph said anything. 

    There is no proof that he didn’t say anything either. And have you paid any mind whatsoever To the legal principles that I have outlined on here which lend credibility to the fact that he did say something.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Does anybody think Ingram will have to also leave the field and put on a clear visor?

    stay tuned. I don't think so.

    in August of this year, the nfl changed their visor rules when Oakley paid them as a sponsor.. Oakley can only be worn in NFL.money talks. ObJ's was reported as not Oakley

    @gumby73 said:

    in August of this year, the nfl changed their visor rules when Oakley paid them as a sponsor.. Oakley can only be worn in NFL.money talks. ObJ's was reported as not Oakley

    ah. so THAT explains that. The announcers on TV apparently didn't know it either - they said it was a rule that it cannot be shaded darkly or something like that.