Freddie fired
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Almost-but in short yardage the bigger man by 30 lbs and the same speed can run over anyone for that 1 yd TD. And like Chubb you don't see the breakaway speed until he runs past the safeties before you realize there are afterburners there. Go to 1:25 mark.
Derrick Henry would not have done ANY better in the Brown situations, because Chubb seems to have 3 guys tackling him. And Henry isn't going to get by 3 tacklers any better than Chubb.
I don't know, but perhaps Henry does have something that Chubb does not? A fucking Fullback blocking for him.
The Browns need a Fullback in short yardage goal line situations. An extra OL doesn't really do the job. If they don't want to use a fullback, use like DT Devaroe Lawrence.
Derrick Henry would not have done ANY better in the Brown situations, because Chubb seems to have 3 guys tackling him. And Henry isn't going to get by 3 tacklers any better than Chubb.
I don't know, but perhaps Henry does have something that Chubb does not? A fucking Fullback blocking for him.
The Browns need a Fullback in short yardage goal line situations. An extra OL doesn't really do the job. If they don't want to use a fullback, use like DT Devaroe Lawrence.
Actually there was only one play when he had a TE in the FB position in front of him, the long TD run. Occasionally a TE would be on one wing or the other behind and to the side of the OT. His other TD looked exactly like what we were doing with no FB. And you are wrong about what he does when hit when 3 guys get him at once. He always gets at least 1 or more yards and often carries them 5-9 yards. Review that whole youtube I supplied since it is every play where he handles the ball. You'll see what I mean. He would have scored better than any back we have with one yard to run for a TD. And I still contend Hunt could have too. He's great when several get him together. Always seems to move the pile forward with low slanting/twisting leverage.
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Derrick Henry would not have done ANY better in the Brown situations, because Chubb seems to have 3 guys tackling him. And Henry isn't going to get by 3 tacklers any better than Chubb.
I don't know, but perhaps Henry does have something that Chubb does not? A fucking Fullback blocking for him.
The Browns need a Fullback in short yardage goal line situations. An extra OL doesn't really do the job. If they don't want to use a fullback, use like DT Devaroe Lawrence.
Actually there was only one play when he had a TE in the FB position in front of him, the long TD run. Occasionally a TE would be on one wing or the other behind and to the side of the OT. His other TD looked exactly like what we were doing with no FB. And you are wrong about what he does when hit when 3 guys get him at once. He always gets at least 1 or more yards and often carries them 5-9 yards. Review that whole youtube I supplied since it is every play where he handles the ball. You'll see what I mean. He would have scored better than any back we have with one yard to run for a TD. And I still contend Hunt could have too. He's great when several get him together. Always seems to move the pile forward with low slanting/twisting leverage.
Actually there was only one play when he had a TE in the FB position in front of him, the long TD run. Occasionally a TE would be on one wing or the other behind and to the side of the OT. His other TD looked exactly like what we were doing with no FB. And you are wrong about what he does when hit when 3 guys get him at once. He always gets at least 1 or more yards and often carries them 5-9 yards. Review that whole youtube I supplied since it is every play where he handles the ball. You'll see what I mean. He would have scored better than any back we have with one yard to run for a TD. And I still contend Hunt could have too. He's great when several get him together. Always seems to move the pile forward with low slanting/twisting leverage.
I just think you are orgasmic over Henry. He is good, but he does not wear a red S on his chest the way you apparently think he does.
Henry's best asset is having Vrabel as his HC.
And I don't say that because his dad was a teacher at my high school. He really is a very good coach that has that team in playoff contention, when there is no way really that they should be.
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Fire Freddy
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Ok seen enough of fat fred inabilities to run an offense , just plain awful . OBJ pouting like a little bitch, beat by another 3rd string QB , this guy has no clue what a head coach is
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Ok seen enough of fat fred inabilities to run an offense , just plain awful . OBJ pouting like a little bitch, beat by another 3rd string QB , this guy has no clue what a head coach is
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I've finally seen enough. Kareem Hunt, ZERO carries in the second half = you have no clue how to use the talent you have.
The Browns are a talented team, with a HC who has no idea how to use it.
He loses to the Bengals, fire him.
EDIT: Buy a clue from Paul Brown (even Bill B modestly acknowledged him as the GOAT of coaches) speaking about Jim Brown- "when you have a big gun- fire it."
Far too often Freddie just tries to get cute, and out thinks himself.
You have a QB with a bruised hand (at least) so let's try three straight pass plays.
PS- Tomlin dumbed it down to HS football mentality (according to some of the Steelers) in the second half, and Freddie couldn't adjust.
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I've finally seen enough. Kareem Hunt, ZERO carries in the second half = you have no clue how to use the talent you have.
The Browns are a talented team, with a HC who has no idea how to use it.
He loses to the Bengals, fire him.
EDIT: Buy a clue from Paul Brown (even Bill B modestly acknowledged him as the GOAT of coaches) speaking about Jim Brown- "when you have a big gun- fire it."
Far too often Freddie just tries to get cute, and out thinks himself.
You have a QB with a bruised hand (at least) so let's try three straight pass plays.
PS- Tomlin dumbed it down to HS football mentality (according to some of the Steelers) in the second half, and Freddie couldn't adjust.
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Let's play the 20\20 hindsight game while we're at it. Dorse should have kept Williams as the HC, and I'd bet the ranch the Browns wouldn't be 5-7 now.
Thanks Freddie, your incompetence has saved me around $1,000 bucks. I was going to reconsider and head to Arizona if you had managed to beat the Steelers. Ain't happening now.
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I've finally seen enough. Kareem Hunt, ZERO carries in the second half = you have no clue how to use the talent you have.
The Browns are a talented team, with a HC who has no idea how to use it.
He loses to the Bengals, fire him.
EDIT: Buy a clue from Paul Brown (even Bill B modestly acknowledged him as the GOAT of coaches) speaking about Jim Brown- "when you have a big gun- fire it."
Far too often Freddie just tries to get cute, and out thinks himself.
You have a QB with a bruised hand (at least) so let's try three straight pass plays.
PS- Tomlin dumbed it down to HS football mentality (according to some of the Steelers) in the second half, and Freddie couldn't adjust.
I've finally seen enough. Kareem Hunt, ZERO carries in the second half = you have no clue how to use the talent you have.
The Browns are a talented team, with a HC who has no idea how to use it.
He loses to the Bengals, fire him.
EDIT: Buy a clue from Paul Brown (even Bill B modestly acknowledged him as the GOAT of coaches) speaking about Jim Brown- "when you have a big gun- fire it."
Far too often Freddie just tries to get cute, and out thinks himself.
You have a QB with a bruised hand (at least) so let's try three straight pass plays.
PS- Tomlin dumbed it down to HS football mentality (according to some of the Steelers) in the second half, and Freddie couldn't adjust.
I have been so dumbfounded by Kitchen's inability to get OBJ - one of the better weapons in the NFL - the ball this season that I seriously wonder what the point is in bringing him back next year. The only thing that makes me think he comes back is that they'll never be able to recoup the first rounder they gave up for him now. They've drove OBJ's trade value into the ground.
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I've finally seen enough. Kareem Hunt, ZERO carries in the second half = you have no clue how to use the talent you have.
The Browns are a talented team, with a HC who has no idea how to use it.
He loses to the Bengals, fire him.
EDIT: Buy a clue from Paul Brown (even Bill B modestly acknowledged him as the GOAT of coaches) speaking about Jim Brown- "when you have a big gun- fire it."
Far too often Freddie just tries to get cute, and out thinks himself.
You have a QB with a bruised hand (at least) so let's try three straight pass plays.
PS- Tomlin dumbed it down to HS football mentality (according to some of the Steelers) in the second half, and Freddie couldn't adjust.
I have been so dumbfounded by Kitchen's inability to get OBJ - one of the better weapons in the NFL - the ball this season that I seriously wonder what the point is in bringing him back next year. The only thing that makes me think he comes back is that they'll never be able to recoup the first rounder they gave up for him now. They've drove OBJ's trade value into the ground.
I have been so dumbfounded by Kitchen's inability to get OBJ - one of the better weapons in the NFL - the ball this season that I seriously wonder what the point is in bringing him back next year. The only thing that makes me think he comes back is that they'll never be able to recoup the first rounder they gave up for him now. They've drove OBJ's trade value into the ground.
I can't even imagine why it's impossible to get him the ball. As bad as the Giants were, they still usually managed it. I feel like we almost HAVE to trade him now, regardless of value. Why pay $16 million a year? Whatever, I really don't care right now. Sometimes it doesn't feel like anything we do matters. Let's find another 3rd string QB to lose to.
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I never jump on the "fire _______ " bandwagons. The old it's easier to fire one guy than half of the team adage.
But in this case it's time to shop for a new head coach. Freddie is a victim of "the Peter Principle" he's risen to a job he can't do.
Too bad that and other factors have cost the Cleveland Browns a promising season.
GO BROWNS, 2020 playoffs....baby !
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Ok seen enough of fat fred inabilities to run an offense , just plain awful . OBJ pouting like a little bitch, beat by another 3rd string QB , this guy has no clue what a head coach is
Ok seen enough of fat fred inabilities to run an offense , just plain awful . OBJ pouting like a little bitch, beat by another 3rd string QB , this guy has no clue what a head coach is
someone needs to pound this into every head on this board as to what you just said....he is a hillbilly coach....what a disgrace...fucking tomlin in my opinion to this point of the season should get coach of the century and we heiped him in every way today....pisses me off....as long as we have this he haw jackass as hc...and the steelers have tomlin and the ravens harbaugh....we ain't goin nowhere....
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I never jump on the "fire _______ " bandwagons. The old it's easier to fire one guy than half of the team adage.
But in this case it's time to shop for a new head coach. Freddie is a victim of "the Peter Principle" he's risen to a job he can't do.
Too bad that and other factors have cost the Cleveland Browns a promising season.
GO BROWNS, 2020 playoffs....baby !
I never jump on the "fire _______ " bandwagons. The old it's easier to fire one guy than half of the team adage.
But in this case it's time to shop for a new head coach. Freddie is a victim of "the Peter Principle" he's risen to a job he can't do.
Too bad that and other factors have cost the Cleveland Browns a promising season.
GO BROWNS, 2020 playoffs....baby !
he will be gone....now the bengals got carrot top playing qb again...you know what that means...he smacks the clowns around no matter how short handed they are....pfffffft....another losing season about to happen....
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I have been so dumbfounded by Kitchen's inability to get OBJ - one of the better weapons in the NFL - the ball this season that I seriously wonder what the point is in bringing him back next year. The only thing that makes me think he comes back is that they'll never be able to recoup the first rounder they gave up for him now. They've drove OBJ's trade value into the ground.
I can't even imagine why it's impossible to get him the ball. As bad as the Giants were, they still usually managed it. I feel like we almost HAVE to trade him now, regardless of value. Why pay $16 million a year? Whatever, I really don't care right now. Sometimes it doesn't feel like anything we do matters. Let's find another 3rd string QB to lose to.
I can't even imagine why it's impossible to get him the ball. As bad as the Giants were, they still usually managed it. I feel like we almost HAVE to trade him now, regardless of value. Why pay $16 million a year? Whatever, I really don't care right now. Sometimes it doesn't feel like anything we do matters. Let's find another 3rd string QB to lose to.
you know....you are correct...what the fuck was the purpose of getting him....they need to deal him now....he's about ready to explode in a bad way....they had a camera on him at the end of the game and he was screaming at one of the clowns coaches....i mean screaming....i think the camera mans boss told him to pan away from that view because it was only on for about 3 seconds...wow...what a disaster this team is....from head to toe...
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Was against the Kitchens hire
Was against the flashy trades
Smh
Gregg would have us in a better spot
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
I've finally seen enough. Kareem Hunt, ZERO carries in the second half = you have no clue how to use the talent you have.
The Browns are a talented team, with a HC who has no idea how to use it.
He loses to the Bengals, fire him.
EDIT: Buy a clue from Paul Brown (even Bill B modestly acknowledged him as the GOAT of coaches) speaking about Jim Brown- "when you have a big gun- fire it."
Far too often Freddie just tries to get cute, and out thinks himself.
You have a QB with a bruised hand (at least) so let's try three straight pass plays.
PS- Tomlin dumbed it down to HS football mentality (according to some of the Steelers) in the second half, and Freddie couldn't adjust.
I have been so dumbfounded by Kitchen's inability to get OBJ - one of the better weapons in the NFL - the ball this season that I seriously wonder what the point is in bringing him back next year. The only thing that makes me think he comes back is that they'll never be able to recoup the first rounder they gave up for him now. They've drove OBJ's trade value into the ground.
I have been so dumbfounded by Kitchen's inability to get OBJ - one of the better weapons in the NFL - the ball this season that I seriously wonder what the point is in bringing him back next year. The only thing that makes me think he comes back is that they'll never be able to recoup the first rounder they gave up for him now. They've drove OBJ's trade value into the ground.
But really- is it the scheme to have OBJ draw double coverage just to get Landry open? Just wow. It's not like Beckham suddenly turned into a bum, by just getting traded....
Nah- the point is Dorsey gave Kitchens a level of talent that would have 75% of the head coaches in the league envious- and Fred shit the bed with it. Even the 10-2 Ravens, outside of Jackson don't measure up at the skill positions. The Steelers earlier today sure as hell don't.
Dorse can't be happy with this turn of events, and bet the ranch Haslam isn't either. I've always felt you need to give a coach at least a couple seasons- but not this time.
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I have been so dumbfounded by Kitchen's inability to get OBJ - one of the better weapons in the NFL - the ball this season that I seriously wonder what the point is in bringing him back next year. The only thing that makes me think he comes back is that they'll never be able to recoup the first rounder they gave up for him now. They've drove OBJ's trade value into the ground.
But really- is it the scheme to have OBJ draw double coverage just to get Landry open? Just wow. It's not like Beckham suddenly turned into a bum, by just getting traded....
Nah- the point is Dorsey gave Kitchens a level of talent that would have 75% of the head coaches in the league envious- and Fred shit the bed with it. Even the 10-2 Ravens, outside of Jackson don't measure up at the skill positions. The Steelers earlier today sure as hell don't.
Dorse can't be happy with this turn of events, and bet the ranch Haslam isn't either. I've always felt you need to give a coach at least a couple seasons- but not this time.
Dorse can't be happy with this turn of events, and bet the ranch Haslam isn't either. I've always felt you need to give a coach at least a couple seasons- but not this time.
I'm so conflicted on this.
I've not been a fan of what I've seen of this team, on and off the field, but I've often complained about the Browns continually changing head coaches. I don't want to fire Kitchens, but I also don't want him to continue to Retard this team's progress. I really don't see how this team has improved from this time last season, but I hate the idea of starting over again... but I hate the idea of having Kitchens still running this team next year... ugh.
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Dorse can't be happy with this turn of events, and bet the ranch Haslam isn't either. I've always felt you need to give a coach at least a couple seasons- but not this time.
I'm so conflicted on this.
I've not been a fan of what I've seen of this team, on and off the field, but I've often complained about the Browns continually changing head coaches. I don't want to fire Kitchens, but I also don't want him to continue to Retard this team's progress. I really don't see how this team has improved from this time last season, but I hate the idea of starting over again... but I hate the idea of having Kitchens still running this team next year... ugh.
I'm so conflicted on this.
I've not been a fan of what I've seen of this team, on and off the field, but I've often complained about the Browns continually changing head coaches. I don't want to fire Kitchens, but I also don't want him to continue to Retard this team's progress. I really don't see how this team has improved from this time last season, but I hate the idea of starting over again... but I hate the idea of having Kitchens still running this team next year... ugh.
Now you know how Sophie felt.
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I'm so conflicted on this.
I've not been a fan of what I've seen of this team, on and off the field, but I've often complained about the Browns continually changing head coaches. I don't want to fire Kitchens, but I also don't want him to continue to Retard this team's progress. I really don't see how this team has improved from this time last season, but I hate the idea of starting over again... but I hate the idea of having Kitchens still running this team next year... ugh.
Now you know how Sophie felt.
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