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  • @canton-dawg said:

    Yes...twice, Chubb took only 2 handoffs and Hunt took zero.

    True... except for the other 4 runs...

    In our lone, 3rd-Qtr possession we ran the ball 5 times. The 6th came in our 1st possession of the 4th Qtr. After that the score and clock pretty much dictated that we pass.

    https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019120110/2019/REG13/browns@steelers?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019120110

    @tour2ma said:

    True... except for the other 4 runs...

    In our lone, 3rd-Qtr possession we ran the ball 5 times. The 6th came in our 1st possession of the 4th Qtr. After that the score and clock pretty much dictated that we pass.

    https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019120110/2019/REG13/browns@steelers?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019120110

    Strange, I only see 2 rushing attempts according to ESPN’s play by play box scores.

    https://www.espn.com.au/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401128107
     

    Regardless if it was 2 or 6 rushing attempts, not much of a commitment to the run.

  • @tour2ma said:

    True... except for the other 4 runs...

    In our lone, 3rd-Qtr possession we ran the ball 5 times. The 6th came in our 1st possession of the 4th Qtr. After that the score and clock pretty much dictated that we pass.

    https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019120110/2019/REG13/browns@steelers?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019120110

    No tour. Its more fun to make up things so you can complain about how awful the coaching staff is and how even a high school jv coach could do better. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    No tour. Its more fun to make up things so you can complain about how awful the coaching staff is and how even a high school jv coach could do better. 

    Yes, it’s a great strategy for the 5th best rushing team in the NFL to abandon the run...again.

  • All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...

    @nickers said:

    All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...

    You mean one of those sissy California teams that beat the Browns this season? 

  • The fact that we have a loaded offense...and we went against a depleted horrible steeler squad and lost and looked like floundering children shows freddie is Not the coach for the browns.

    Embarrassing imho...

  • The fact that we have a loaded offense...and we went against a depleted horrible steeler squad and lost and looked like floundering children shows freddie is Not the coach for the browns.

    Embarrassing imho...

    @kvoethe said:

    The fact that we have a loaded offense...and we went against a depleted horrible steeler squad and lost and looked like floundering children shows freddie is Not the coach for the browns.

    Embarrassing imho...

    Teams don't go 7-5 if they are horrible with our injuries/suspensions. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    which favors the good teams. Stop and think about that. Browns walked all over the squealers the first game, were shorthanded the second game, were only a td down at the end. It just is what it is.

    The Browns didnt walk all over anyone. Mason rudolph was horrendous. The game was one score for a while. Any of you thinking you just crushed it the first go are on the sauce. 

    "We finished it"

    @vagitron said:

    The Browns didnt walk all over anyone. Mason rudolph was horrendous. The game was one score for a while. Any of you thinking you just crushed it the first go are on the sauce. 

    "We finished it"

    Lol, you so mad 

  • The fact that we have a loaded offense...and we went against a depleted horrible steeler squad and lost and looked like floundering children shows freddie is Not the coach for the browns.

    Embarrassing imho...

    @kvoethe said:

    The fact that we have a loaded offense...and we went against a depleted horrible steeler squad and lost and looked like floundering children shows freddie is Not the coach for the browns.

    Embarrassing imho...

    Loaded means nothing without the line or QB. 

    Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday.  Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?   Honestly can't recall.

  • @kvoethe said:

    The fact that we have a loaded offense...and we went against a depleted horrible steeler squad and lost and looked like floundering children shows freddie is Not the coach for the browns.

    Embarrassing imho...

    Loaded means nothing without the line or QB. 

    Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday.  Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?   Honestly can't recall.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Loaded means nothing without the line or QB. 

    Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday.  Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?   Honestly can't recall.

    They could’ve figured out a way to get Odell more then 3 catches for 29 yards. The offense is atrocious. I’m not sure how much I wanna blame the line and Baker. No rhyme or reason on screens, PA, 2 minute hurry up, etc.

    The defense was going for the strip in a one possession game, giving up huge amounts of YAC. This team is poorly coached. Maybe that’s why Dorsey gave Kitchens the job. We’re still “1 year away”

  • All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...

    @nickers said:

    All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...

    I agree OBJ has brought nothing to this team 

  • @nickers said:

    All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...

    I agree OBJ has brought nothing to this team 

    @7moses7 said:

    I agree OBJ has brought nothing to this team 

    So he was right when he said that the Giants sent him to Cleveland to die.

  • @kvoethe said:

    The fact that we have a loaded offense...and we went against a depleted horrible steeler squad and lost and looked like floundering children shows freddie is Not the coach for the browns.

    Embarrassing imho...

    Loaded means nothing without the line or QB. 

    Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday.  Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?   Honestly can't recall.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Loaded means nothing without the line or QB. 

    Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday.  Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?   Honestly can't recall.

    You mean the kind of looks you use when you are only facing a single backup in a good Oline and he is the center? 

    I don't either. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Loaded means nothing without the line or QB. 

    Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday.  Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?   Honestly can't recall.

    They could’ve figured out a way to get Odell more then 3 catches for 29 yards. The offense is atrocious. I’m not sure how much I wanna blame the line and Baker. No rhyme or reason on screens, PA, 2 minute hurry up, etc.

    The defense was going for the strip in a one possession game, giving up huge amounts of YAC. This team is poorly coached. Maybe that’s why Dorsey gave Kitchens the job. We’re still “1 year away”

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    They could’ve figured out a way to get Odell more then 3 catches for 29 yards. The offense is atrocious. I’m not sure how much I wanna blame the line and Baker. No rhyme or reason on screens, PA, 2 minute hurry up, etc.

    The defense was going for the strip in a one possession game, giving up huge amounts of YAC. This team is poorly coached. Maybe that’s why Dorsey gave Kitchens the job. We’re still “1 year away”

    We went ball control prevent offense.  
    At one point we had 13 carries to start to the game and I believe Baker was 6/8.   We were running into 8 man fronts with blitzing linebackers.  

    I don’t agree with the ball control keep away approach when Facing a rookie QB.  If the Steelers get one or two more possessions that’s a couple more occasions for rookie mistakes.
    the Steelers actually took more shots down the field with their best WR out!!!!

    We took the wrong approach to the game and the defense put on a disgusting display.  I’m not talking about the newbies just entering the game and signed off of practice squads I’m talking about Guys like Carrie, Greedy and Wilson. 

  • @nickers said:

    All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...

    You mean one of those sissy California teams that beat the Browns this season? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    You mean one of those sissy California teams that beat the Browns this season? 

    Any place ... I don't give a rats ass... He has diminished skills..

  • @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    They could’ve figured out a way to get Odell more then 3 catches for 29 yards. The offense is atrocious. I’m not sure how much I wanna blame the line and Baker. No rhyme or reason on screens, PA, 2 minute hurry up, etc.

    The defense was going for the strip in a one possession game, giving up huge amounts of YAC. This team is poorly coached. Maybe that’s why Dorsey gave Kitchens the job. We’re still “1 year away”

    We went ball control prevent offense.  
    At one point we had 13 carries to start to the game and I believe Baker was 6/8.   We were running into 8 man fronts with blitzing linebackers.  

    I don’t agree with the ball control keep away approach when Facing a rookie QB.  If the Steelers get one or two more possessions that’s a couple more occasions for rookie mistakes.
    the Steelers actually took more shots down the field with their best WR out!!!!

    We took the wrong approach to the game and the defense put on a disgusting display.  I’m not talking about the newbies just entering the game and signed off of practice squads I’m talking about Guys like Carrie, Greedy and Wilson. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    We went ball control prevent offense.  
    At one point we had 13 carries to start to the game and I believe Baker was 6/8.   We were running into 8 man fronts with blitzing linebackers.  

    I don’t agree with the ball control keep away approach when Facing a rookie QB.  If the Steelers get one or two more possessions that’s a couple more occasions for rookie mistakes.
    the Steelers actually took more shots down the field with their best WR out!!!!

    We took the wrong approach to the game and the defense put on a disgusting display.  I’m not talking about the newbies just entering the game and signed off of practice squads I’m talking about Guys like Carrie, Greedy and Wilson. 

       That is true - except I figured the defense needed a lot of help with injuries/left home/suspensions at the time. I thought the ball control was to limit the weakened defense's exposure to pukesburg's offense as much as possible. I was disappointed though, at the throwing to OBJ again, while hopelessly double covered. It's just wasted downs unless OBJ still gets a bit of room to get to the ball.

        I just notice that Ward gets picked on more than Greedy - that is bad. And sure enough, Ward gets a pass interference call on a long throw, right on cue. Didn't look back at the ball . Is it just me? I would think that it would help with getting interceptions? and avoid completions to make plays? lol Just seems like he needs a talking to. Could easily be just me. lol

    I will say - giving them time to score again near halftime was bad. A little more intuitiveness, please.

  • All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...

    @nickers said:

    All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...

    I doubt it's  diminishing  skills.  More like  dimished coaching  and playcalling.  Others have  pointed out, three  straight  passes  after the int  from the 30, resulting in  going  backwards.  

  • @vagitron said:

    The Browns didnt walk all over anyone. Mason rudolph was horrendous. The game was one score for a while. Any of you thinking you just crushed it the first go are on the sauce. 

    "We finished it"

    Lol, you so mad 

    @crunchy said:

    Lol, you so mad 

    Mad about what? Freddie kitchens wearing that shirt was brain dead. If anyone should be mad it's you all. Your secondary was healthy besides the benching of Randall who apparently can't control himself. You were of course missing Garrett but the steelers have a murderers row of guys missing from the line up and you lost to our at one time fourth string qb. No one on offense besides the tight ends has more than two years in the league. (Skill players)

  • @crunchy said:

    Lol, you so mad 

    Mad about what? Freddie kitchens wearing that shirt was brain dead. If anyone should be mad it's you all. Your secondary was healthy besides the benching of Randall who apparently can't control himself. You were of course missing Garrett but the steelers have a murderers row of guys missing from the line up and you lost to our at one time fourth string qb. No one on offense besides the tight ends has more than two years in the league. (Skill players)

    @vagitron said:

    Mad about what? Freddie kitchens wearing that shirt was brain dead. If anyone should be mad it's you all. Your secondary was healthy besides the benching of Randall who apparently can't control himself. You were of course missing Garrett but the steelers have a murderers row of guys missing from the line up and you lost to our at one time fourth string qb. No one on offense besides the tight ends has more than two years in the league. (Skill players)

    Exactly  Vag. The Browns  had NO excuse for  losing  that game- but they still  managed to  do so. A disgusting  effort. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    True... except for the other 4 runs...

    In our lone, 3rd-Qtr possession we ran the ball 5 times. The 6th came in our 1st possession of the 4th Qtr. After that the score and clock pretty much dictated that we pass.

    https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2019120110/2019/REG13/browns@steelers?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2019120110

    Strange, I only see 2 rushing attempts according to ESPN’s play by play box scores.

    https://www.espn.com.au/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401128107
     

    Regardless if it was 2 or 6 rushing attempts, not much of a commitment to the run.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Strange, I only see 2 rushing attempts according to ESPN’s play by play box scores. https://www.espn.com.au/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401128107
    Regardless if it was 2 or 6 rushing attempts, not much of a commitment to the run.

    It was 6 and as I just posted in another thread the results were not good gaining 3,5,1,1, 2 and 3 yards. Tretter was playing on one leg by then.

  • @kvoethe said:

    The fact that we have a loaded offense...and we went against a depleted horrible steeler squad and lost and looked like floundering children shows freddie is Not the coach for the browns.

    Embarrassing imho...

    Loaded means nothing without the line or QB. 

    Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday.  Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?   Honestly can't recall.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Loaded means nothing without the line or QB. 

    Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday.  Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?   Honestly can't recall.

    No instances I recall... I saw a few "games" across PTG's Center's face.

    And as far as "loaded" goes add a TE to your list...

    Then consider that the match ups were relative strength on strength, our O vs their D, and weakness on weakness, their O our D. Some post as if it was O vs O...