Browns at Steelers Official Gameday thread
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All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...
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The fact that we have a loaded offense...and we went against a depleted horrible steeler squad and lost and looked like floundering children shows freddie is Not the coach for the browns.
Embarrassing imho...
Loaded means nothing without the line or QB.Â
Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday. Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?  Honestly can't recall.
Loaded means nothing without the line or QB.Â
Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday. Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?  Honestly can't recall.
You mean the kind of looks you use when you are only facing a single backup in a good Oline and he is the center?Â
I don't either.Â
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Loaded means nothing without the line or QB.Â
Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday. Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?  Honestly can't recall.
They could’ve figured out a way to get Odell more then 3 catches for 29 yards. The offense is atrocious. I’m not sure how much I wanna blame the line and Baker. No rhyme or reason on screens, PA, 2 minute hurry up, etc.
The defense was going for the strip in a one possession game, giving up huge amounts of YAC. This team is poorly coached. Maybe that’s why Dorsey gave Kitchens the job. We’re still “1 year away”
They could’ve figured out a way to get Odell more then 3 catches for 29 yards. The offense is atrocious. I’m not sure how much I wanna blame the line and Baker. No rhyme or reason on screens, PA, 2 minute hurry up, etc.
The defense was going for the strip in a one possession game, giving up huge amounts of YAC. This team is poorly coached. Maybe that’s why Dorsey gave Kitchens the job. We’re still “1 year away”
We went ball control prevent offense. Â
At one point we had 13 carries to start to the game and I believe Baker was 6/8.  We were running into 8 man fronts with blitzing linebackers. ÂI don’t agree with the ball control keep away approach when Facing a rookie QB.  If the Steelers get one or two more possessions that’s a couple more occasions for rookie mistakes.
the Steelers actually took more shots down the field with their best WR out!!!!We took the wrong approach to the game and the defense put on a disgusting display.  I’m not talking about the newbies just entering the game and signed off of practice squads I’m talking about Guys like Carrie, Greedy and Wilson.Â
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You mean one of those sissy California teams that beat the Browns this season?Â
Any place ... I don't give a rats ass... He has diminished skills..
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They could’ve figured out a way to get Odell more then 3 catches for 29 yards. The offense is atrocious. I’m not sure how much I wanna blame the line and Baker. No rhyme or reason on screens, PA, 2 minute hurry up, etc.
The defense was going for the strip in a one possession game, giving up huge amounts of YAC. This team is poorly coached. Maybe that’s why Dorsey gave Kitchens the job. We’re still “1 year away”
We went ball control prevent offense. Â
At one point we had 13 carries to start to the game and I believe Baker was 6/8.  We were running into 8 man fronts with blitzing linebackers. ÂI don’t agree with the ball control keep away approach when Facing a rookie QB.  If the Steelers get one or two more possessions that’s a couple more occasions for rookie mistakes.
the Steelers actually took more shots down the field with their best WR out!!!!We took the wrong approach to the game and the defense put on a disgusting display.  I’m not talking about the newbies just entering the game and signed off of practice squads I’m talking about Guys like Carrie, Greedy and Wilson.Â
We went ball control prevent offense. Â
At one point we had 13 carries to start to the game and I believe Baker was 6/8.  We were running into 8 man fronts with blitzing linebackers. ÂI don’t agree with the ball control keep away approach when Facing a rookie QB.  If the Steelers get one or two more possessions that’s a couple more occasions for rookie mistakes.
the Steelers actually took more shots down the field with their best WR out!!!!We took the wrong approach to the game and the defense put on a disgusting display.  I’m not talking about the newbies just entering the game and signed off of practice squads I’m talking about Guys like Carrie, Greedy and Wilson.Â
  That is true - except I figured the defense needed a lot of help with injuries/left home/suspensions at the time. I thought the ball control was to limit the weakened defense's exposure to pukesburg's offense as much as possible. I was disappointed though, at the throwing to OBJ again, while hopelessly double covered. It's just wasted downs unless OBJ still gets a bit of room to get to the ball.
   I just notice that Ward gets picked on more than Greedy - that is bad. And sure enough, Ward gets a pass interference call on a long throw, right on cue. Didn't look back at the ball . Is it just me? I would think that it would help with getting interceptions? and avoid completions to make plays? lol Just seems like he needs a talking to. Could easily be just me. lol
I will say - giving them time to score again near halftime was bad. A little more intuitiveness, please.
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All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...
All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...
I doubt it's diminishing skills. More like dimished coaching and playcalling. Others have pointed out, three straight passes after the int from the 30, resulting in going backwards. Â
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Lol, you so madÂ
Mad about what? Freddie kitchens wearing that shirt was brain dead. If anyone should be mad it's you all. Your secondary was healthy besides the benching of Randall who apparently can't control himself. You were of course missing Garrett but the steelers have a murderers row of guys missing from the line up and you lost to our at one time fourth string qb. No one on offense besides the tight ends has more than two years in the league. (Skill players)
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Lol, you so madÂ
Mad about what? Freddie kitchens wearing that shirt was brain dead. If anyone should be mad it's you all. Your secondary was healthy besides the benching of Randall who apparently can't control himself. You were of course missing Garrett but the steelers have a murderers row of guys missing from the line up and you lost to our at one time fourth string qb. No one on offense besides the tight ends has more than two years in the league. (Skill players)
Mad about what? Freddie kitchens wearing that shirt was brain dead. If anyone should be mad it's you all. Your secondary was healthy besides the benching of Randall who apparently can't control himself. You were of course missing Garrett but the steelers have a murderers row of guys missing from the line up and you lost to our at one time fourth string qb. No one on offense besides the tight ends has more than two years in the league. (Skill players)
Exactly Vag. The Browns had NO excuse for losing that game- but they still managed to do so. A disgusting effort.Â
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True... except for the other 4 runs...
In our lone, 3rd-Qtr possession we ran the ball 5 times. The 6th came in our 1st possession of the 4th Qtr. After that the score and clock pretty much dictated that we pass.
Strange, I only see 2 rushing attempts according to ESPN’s play by play box scores.
https://www.espn.com.au/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401128107
ÂRegardless if it was 2 or 6 rushing attempts, not much of a commitment to the run.
Strange, I only see 2 rushing attempts according to ESPN’s play by play box scores. https://www.espn.com.au/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401128107
Regardless if it was 2 or 6 rushing attempts, not much of a commitment to the run.It was 6 and as I just posted in another thread the results were not good gaining 3,5,1,1, 2 and 3 yards. Tretter was playing on one leg by then.
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The fact that we have a loaded offense...and we went against a depleted horrible steeler squad and lost and looked like floundering children shows freddie is Not the coach for the browns.
Embarrassing imho...
Loaded means nothing without the line or QB.Â
Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday. Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?  Honestly can't recall.
Loaded means nothing without the line or QB.Â
Now forgive my memory, I'm still foggy from all the shots on Saturday. Did anyone see Wilks use any of our double A gap looks yesterday?  Honestly can't recall.
No instances I recall... I saw a few "games" across PTG's Center's face.
And as far as "loaded" goes add a TE to your list...
Then consider that the match ups were relative strength on strength, our O vs their D, and weakness on weakness, their O our D. Some post as if it was O vs O...
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All I can say is OBJ is completely useless to this team.. I hope Dorsey trades him to one of those sissy California teams in the off season...
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Strange, I only see 2 rushing attempts according to ESPN’s play by play box scores. https://www.espn.com.au/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=401128107
Regardless if it was 2 or 6 rushing attempts, not much of a commitment to the run.It was 6 and as I just posted in another thread the results were not good gaining 3,5,1,1, 2 and 3 yards. Tretter was playing on one leg by then.
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LOL the browns secondary had 2 UFA starting at FS and SS, plus Myles being out, plus Richardson headslamming a Heater, plus Vernon not being healthy and having to sit the 2nd half. The browns D was not good yesterday because of suspensions and space heaters and no pass rush and just terrible scheme.Â
Âthe browns offense is more embarrassing, but still had no LT, Robinson was out with a concussion. The browns were banged up but still had more talent and lost, due to no pass rush from the D and no brain from their head coach. I hope Freddie loses enough to be canned. Maybe he has already. He’s obviously not the answer, and has wasted the elephants weight of talent this roster has.
anyone see Scorsese’s The Irishman yet?
“It’s what it is.”
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although Freddie has a lot to learn, so did Chuck Noll with the Squealers.
his first year as head coach, they only won once.
second year - five wins
third year - six wins.
Kitchen's first year - 5 and 7 so far.
It is just way wrong to say KItchens needs to be replaced. He will learn like Chuck Noll did.
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Lol, you so madÂ
Mad about what? Freddie kitchens wearing that shirt was brain dead. If anyone should be mad it's you all. Your secondary was healthy besides the benching of Randall who apparently can't control himself. You were of course missing Garrett but the steelers have a murderers row of guys missing from the line up and you lost to our at one time fourth string qb. No one on offense besides the tight ends has more than two years in the league. (Skill players)
Mad about what? Freddie kitchens wearing that shirt was brain dead. If anyone should be mad it's you all. Your secondary was healthy besides the benching of Randall who apparently can't control himself. You were of course missing Garrett but the steelers have a murderers row of guys missing from the line up and you lost to our at one time fourth string qb. No one on offense besides the tight ends has more than two years in the league. (Skill players)
these are the clowns...what can go wrong will go wrong...they need to wear tshirts with that statement on it.....they suck, end of story....
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although Freddie has a lot to learn, so did Chuck Noll with the Squealers.
his first year as head coach, they only won once.
second year - five wins
third year - six wins.
Kitchen's first year - 5 and 7 so far.
It is just way wrong to say KItchens needs to be replaced. He will learn like Chuck Noll did.
although Freddie has a lot to learn, so did Chuck Noll with the Squealers.
his first year as head coach, they only won once.
second year - five wins
third year - six wins.
Kitchen's first year - 5 and 7 so far.
It is just way wrong to say KItchens needs to be replaced. He will learn like Chuck Noll did.
me thinks not.....the dude does not care about discipline.....he cares more about his daughter telling him to wear that stupid tshirt....and then he is so stupid as to have his jacket unzipped so everyone can see it....including the steelers...boy, that was real intelligent....he is a bubba....bubba kitchy...
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