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  • S SkippinTurtles

    He's the best running back in the NFL.  Period.

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    @skippinturtles said:

    He's the best running back in the NFL.  Period.

    You forgetting about Chubb?  🙂  Oh I agree- pay da Man, the only question is- how much?  And it has to have a lot of voidable outs for the Browns based on him continuing to behave.  

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      Isn’t he like a restricted free agent after this year?

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        Isn’t he like a restricted free agent after this year?

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        @ibleedbrown said:

        Isn’t he like a restricted free agent after this year?

        I initially didn't think so, but you are correct.  Browns slap a first round tender on him = no brainer. Or will the Browns value him so highly they'd be willing to negotiate a long term deal ahead of time?  

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          why ? unless we get a coach that knows wtf he is doing he will just be another wasted talent ala OBJ

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            jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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            Pay him. Pay Schobert. Screw Randall. Next topic. ?

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              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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              Pay Hunt what?

              Big dollars to any RB is a fool's errand.

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                Trade for a LT.

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                  Pay Hunt what?

                  Big dollars to any RB is a fool's errand.

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                  gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Pay Hunt what?

                  Big dollars to any RB is a fool's errand.

                  Hope for 3.5M/year..But McCaffrey, Bernard & Dion Lewis fall between 4-5M/year..Interesting Duke(pick 77) & Hunt (86) both went in 3rd & both deals would get done for both at age 25.. am thinking Hunt waits for Melvin Gordan to set the market..Maybe not Dorsey's plan though

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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Pay Hunt what?

                    Big dollars to any RB is a fool's errand.

                    Hope for 3.5M/year..But McCaffrey, Bernard & Dion Lewis fall between 4-5M/year..Interesting Duke(pick 77) & Hunt (86) both went in 3rd & both deals would get done for both at age 25.. am thinking Hunt waits for Melvin Gordan to set the market..Maybe not Dorsey's plan though

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                    @gumby73 said:

                    Hope for 3.5M/year..But McCaffrey, Bernard & Dion Lewis fall between 4-5M/year..

                    Interesting Duke(pick 77) & Hunt (86) both went in 3rd & both deals would get done for both at age 25.. 

                    am thinking Hunt waits for Melvin Gordan to set the market..Maybe not Dorsey's plan though

                    Besides Hunt only Lewis is not on his rookie deal, so I'm not getting why you cited other salaries, gum...

                    Bernard, Lewis and Duke are strictly 3rd down back whereas Hunt's rushing title showed he can be more. Makes him a tweener.... very difficult to value.... very difficult to afford... at least beyond 2020.

                    In 2020 Hunt's a RFA so if we throw $3.278mm his way, then we'd get a 2020, 2nd-round pick in return, if he's signed away.

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                    Someone might do it for a 2nd... , but his suspension history could be off-putting.

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                      @gumby73 said:

                      Hope for 3.5M/year..But McCaffrey, Bernard & Dion Lewis fall between 4-5M/year..

                      Interesting Duke(pick 77) & Hunt (86) both went in 3rd & both deals would get done for both at age 25.. 

                      am thinking Hunt waits for Melvin Gordan to set the market..Maybe not Dorsey's plan though

                      Besides Hunt only Lewis is not on his rookie deal, so I'm not getting why you cited other salaries, gum...

                      Bernard, Lewis and Duke are strictly 3rd down back whereas Hunt's rushing title showed he can be more. Makes him a tweener.... very difficult to value.... very difficult to afford... at least beyond 2020.

                      In 2020 Hunt's a RFA so if we throw $3.278mm his way, then we'd get a 2020, 2nd-round pick in return, if he's signed away.

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                      Someone might do it for a 2nd... , but his suspension history could be off-putting.

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                      @tour2ma said:

                      so I'm not getting why you cited other salaries, gum...

                      Bernard, Lewis and Duke are strictly 3rd down back whereas Hunt's rushing title showed he can be more. Makes him a tweener.... very difficult to value.... very difficult to afford... at least beyond 2020.

                      In 2020 Hunt's a RFA so if we throw $3.278mm his way, then we'd get a 2020, 2nd-round pick in return, if he's signed away.

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                      Someone might do it for a 2nd... , but his suspension history could be off-putting.

                      A very* difficult tweener to value is a dead on statement Tour..Because honestly, I had forgotten Hunt was 'restricted', But we both surrounded the Hunt's contract value number next season..

                      Am thinking, Hunt showing up on TMZ the second* time, with rehab, is almost as damaging to his starting* RB career as his first visit.

                      Were not in or outside the building with Hunt, so we trust the one's whom are? Matching the 2nd Round tender sounds about right, so than we can watch Hunt vs Joe Mixon in 2021 ?

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                        why ? unless we get a coach that knows wtf he is doing he will just be another wasted talent ala OBJ

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                        @atom said:

                        why ? unless we get a coach that knows wtf he is doing he will just be another wasted talent ala OBJ

                        This.

                        Why sign RBs like Chubb or Hunt to deals when Freddie can have Baker throw 50 times a game?

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                          Pay him for 2020 and then let him go.  You're not going to pay Chubb and Hunt top dollar.

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                            @gumby73 said:

                            Hope for 3.5M/year..But McCaffrey, Bernard & Dion Lewis fall between 4-5M/year..

                            Interesting Duke(pick 77) & Hunt (86) both went in 3rd & both deals would get done for both at age 25.. 

                            am thinking Hunt waits for Melvin Gordan to set the market..Maybe not Dorsey's plan though

                            Besides Hunt only Lewis is not on his rookie deal, so I'm not getting why you cited other salaries, gum...

                            Bernard, Lewis and Duke are strictly 3rd down back whereas Hunt's rushing title showed he can be more. Makes him a tweener.... very difficult to value.... very difficult to afford... at least beyond 2020.

                            In 2020 Hunt's a RFA so if we throw $3.278mm his way, then we'd get a 2020, 2nd-round pick in return, if he's signed away.

                            image.png.23041bc951e7f4e333cf5be3c44ea765.png

                            Someone might do it for a 2nd... , but his suspension history could be off-putting.

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                            @tour2ma said:

                            Besides Hunt only Lewis is not on his rookie deal, so I'm not getting why you cited other salaries, gum...

                            Bernard, Lewis and Duke are strictly 3rd down back whereas Hunt's rushing title showed he can be more. Makes him a tweener.... very difficult to value.... very difficult to afford... at least beyond 2020.

                            In 2020 Hunt's a RFA so if we throw $3.278mm his way, then we'd get a 2020, 2nd-round pick in return, if he's signed away.

                            image.png.23041bc951e7f4e333cf5be3c44ea765.png

                            Someone might do it for a 2nd... , but his suspension history could be off-putting.

                            Tender the 2nd round offer and be done with it.  You can still get a very good college back in round 2 if necessary that will be cheap for his rookie deal.

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                              Yup... and if Hunt signs a reasonable offer sheet... say in the $35-40mm range for five years, then we can consider matching.

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                                Yup... and if Hunt signs a reasonable offer sheet... say in the $35-40mm range for five years, then we can consider matching.

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                                @tour2ma said:

                                Yup... and if Hunt signs a reasonable offer sheet... say in the $35-40mm range for five years, then we can consider matching.

                                Exactly. I really like the guy but I don't think it's in our best interest to open the vault doors.  Just for the record I hate the idea we are already discussing cap space before we've won anything.

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                                  He is Duke only better.

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                                    He is Duke only better.

                                    WSS

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    He is Duke only better.

                                    WSS

                                    He's Duke with legs the size oak trees. I love seeing the joy from Hunt when he scores and jumps into the crowd.

                                    Also, I love how Hunt gets to the outside when we're at the goal line.  That looks REALLY difficult to defend because Hunt just jump-cuts laterally and then has more acceleration than anyone to the corner.  He's absolutely vital to our offense, and I don't think we're going to have those issues where we're stalling out at the 3 yard line anymore.  

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                                      Yup... and if Hunt signs a reasonable offer sheet... say in the $35-40mm range for five years, then we can consider matching.

                                      Exactly. I really like the guy but I don't think it's in our best interest to open the vault doors.  Just for the record I hate the idea we are already discussing cap space before we've won anything.

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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      Exactly. I really like the guy but I don't think it's in our best interest to open the vault doors.  Just for the record I hate the idea we are already discussing cap space before we've won anything.

                                      You always have to keep one eye on the cap. Even when Sashi was clearing the decks, the FO's cap planning was reaching out many years.

                                      And one of the cap truths is that a franchise can get in trouble quickly trying to pay one RB top dollar, let alone two of them. Zeke demos the former while the Saints demo the latter.

                                      NO had to decide a couple seasons ago between Kamara and Ingram... they stayed with the cheap rookie... and that's despite Ingram ultimately being a bargain for BLT at $5mm/yr.

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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        Exactly. I really like the guy but I don't think it's in our best interest to open the vault doors.  Just for the record I hate the idea we are already discussing cap space before we've won anything.

                                        You always have to keep one eye on the cap. Even when Sashi was clearing the decks, the FO's cap planning was reaching out many years.

                                        And one of the cap truths is that a franchise can get in trouble quickly trying to pay one RB top dollar, let alone two of them. Zeke demos the former while the Saints demo the latter.

                                        NO had to decide a couple seasons ago between Kamara and Ingram... they stayed with the cheap rookie... and that's despite Ingram ultimately being a bargain for BLT at $5mm/yr.

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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        You always have to keep one eye on the cap. Even when Sashi was clearing the decks, the FO's cap planning was reaching out many years.

                                        And one of the cap truths is that a franchise can get in trouble quickly trying to pay one RB top dollar, let alone two of them. Zeke demos the former while the Saints demo the latter.

                                        NO had to decide a couple seasons ago between Kamara and Ingram... they stayed with the cheap rookie... and that's despite Ingram ultimately being a bargain for BLT at $5mm/yr.

                                        No doubt Tour my point is, as I'm sure you could guess, I prefer to be worrying about the cap after the 2019 run to the playoffs and the 2020 Super Bowl campaign. Not after 6 and whatever the hell.

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                                          Kareem Hunt has Marshall Faulk type receiving skills. The best stiff arm in the game, bar none. A rushing title. Never fumbles. He's 24. What am I missing?

                                          Just sign him today and get it over with.  

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