Happy Impeachment Day!
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LOL Cal the Republicans claimed the same obstruction crap on Clinton, and now say it's perfectly OK for Trump to pull the same garbage.
God, you guys have your heads so far up Trump's ass it's unbelievable....
Nope, all it will take is a solid Democratic vote along with a fair share of Moderate Republicans along with a few Independents who hate Trumps guts to swing the election the other way. To this point there's no viable 3rd party candidate, and I suspect voting "none of the above" will count as a vote for Trump. In case you forgot, Trump lost the popular vote, and the only reason he won is folks hated Hillary more. #Never Trump. FWIW, any Republican who isn't Donald....
There's a reason Trump went after Biden- because he rightly surmised Joe as a far bigger threat to his reelection than either Sanders or Warren. The religious right has no use for Pete- not because he's gay, but he'll 100% push the outer limits of the LBGT crowd.
Hoorta as far as I'm concerned Whitewater was nickel and dime. Oh there was probably some crooked shit going on with some sort of land deal among the movers and shakers in Arkansas and Bill probably had a few bucks in the the kitty. Who cares about Monica Lewinsky? That's one of the reasons you learn to play guitar make a lot of money play professional sports or run for public office.
Because you get more blowjobs than the guy that works at the hardware store.
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Hoorta as far as I'm concerned Whitewater was nickel and dime. Oh there was probably some crooked shit going on with some sort of land deal among the movers and shakers in Arkansas and Bill probably had a few bucks in the the kitty. Who cares about Monica Lewinsky? That's one of the reasons you learn to play guitar make a lot of money play professional sports or run for public office.
Because you get more blowjobs than the guy that works at the hardware store.
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that makes you happy to claim, but it is not true. Clinton openly lied on national tv, and the stained dress of Monica Lewinsky was a match. That makes for hard core evidence that warranted serious LEGIT consideration of prosecution.
And Trump cheats on his wife with a porn star, and then pays hush money to try and cover it up. Fine upstanding gentleman.... Your problem Cal- is you and others on this board think Trump can do no wrong.
And I suppose his tweets are deserving of an impeachment right?
No, but they're stupid as hell self aggrandizing crap. Please go back to MCing the Apprentice ASAP Donald.
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I think Hallmark showed an add with a gay couple though guys. I think that's where the outrage is supposed to be right now.
I would vote for mayor Pete over AOC or Elizabeth Warren in a heartbeat.
But I know it excites you to pretend it's a big deal.
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I would vote for mayor Pete over AOC or Elizabeth Warren in a heartbeat.
But I know it excites you to pretend it's a big deal.
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I'm not the one making a big deal out of it...
Though I think it's time for another thread on here about there being too many black pageant winners or going after a 16 year old climate activist.... You know, the real hard hitting stuff
Or maybe we can call Trump's own nomination "the swamp" because he didn't blindly follow orders, completely losing all meaning of what the swamp actually is
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I'll work on this ^^^^
When you finally wrap your head around the bolded part that I've been telling YOU since I began reading this board- I am not a registered democrat, I am not a liberal, I have not voted for a democrat in any national level election. That would include Obama ( not like he was a "liberal" though) I'm like a parent that has to tell the child half a dozen times because for whatever reason it isn't registering with you. I have NO side. And if I did, it certainly wouldn't be with those clowns. I don't think you're an idiot, and I'm not "mad bro" as I type this. I genuinely need to understand if you're having trouble processing the things you read from me.
Repeat this back in your head. Then, at your earliest convenience, type it out, or copy and paste.... I don't give a damn, 10 times in a row in a response. Do that.... and then maybe we'll get to potential candidates I have my eye on. But I'm not having a dialogue with anyone who can't even begin to grasp the very basics of things I've said... Christ knows how many times now......? And if you're going to say that I've never mentioned my 3rd party preference, my disdain for Repubs and Dems, or that you just haven't paid attention (yet somehow you're going to lump me in with the other dearly departed on this board) then the only thing saving you from the ignore list is that mod tag.
Don't be coy. In this case you know damn well I mean the people on your side who can't stand Trump.
So you pick an independent that you're throwing your weight behind and take it from there. I'm going to guess that he won't be to the right of the Republican party, just a hunch.
Right or wrong?
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Don't be coy. In this case you know damn well I mean the people on your side who can't stand Trump.
So you pick an independent that you're throwing your weight behind and take it from there. I'm going to guess that he won't be to the right of the Republican party, just a hunch.
Right or wrong?
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Well Steve- would it be accurate and fair to say Trump is as far right as Warren is to the left? The problem I have is those Moderates (count me as one) who have soured on Trump's antics and happen to have a few communicating neurons to make up their\our own minds- and look at things objectively. We're apparently not welcome in the MAGA dominated current rendition of the Republican Party. Some of us aren't quite so blind to the the Cult of Personality gone haywire. FWIW, I'd vote Mike Pence in a heartbeat- Donald? Not so sure about that one. The economy is great? Great- that won't stop me from my current opinion Trump is a pompous jackass.
As you said that's always been a constant for certain people on this board. It's easier to just assume anyone that disagrees with you on one thing must be "the enemy" and disagree with you on everything. Easier to put them in a box. If you always vote straight ticket and refuse to even think otherwise, you'd assume others are the same.
Ah Woodster- I may disagree with you on a lot of things political. But for sure, just about anyone who dares post on this sub forum who doesn't think Trump is the most wonderful president since Abraham Lincoln is a nasty mean uneducated doofus who only gets their political news from CNN.
I'll probably check out for awhile and let them continue with their Trump circle jerk.
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Don't be coy. In this case you know damn well I mean the people on your side who can't stand Trump.
So you pick an independent that you're throwing your weight behind and take it from there. I'm going to guess that he won't be to the right of the Republican party, just a hunch.
Right or wrong?
WSS
Well Steve- would it be accurate and fair to say Trump is as far right as Warren is to the left? The problem I have is those Moderates (count me as one) who have soured on Trump's antics and happen to have a few communicating neurons to make up their\our own minds- and look at things objectively. We're apparently not welcome in the MAGA dominated current rendition of the Republican Party. Some of us aren't quite so blind to the the Cult of Personality gone haywire. FWIW, I'd vote Mike Pence in a heartbeat- Donald? Not so sure about that one. The economy is great? Great- that won't stop me from my current opinion Trump is a pompous jackass.
As you said that's always been a constant for certain people on this board. It's easier to just assume anyone that disagrees with you on one thing must be "the enemy" and disagree with you on everything. Easier to put them in a box. If you always vote straight ticket and refuse to even think otherwise, you'd assume others are the same.
Ah Woodster- I may disagree with you on a lot of things political. But for sure, just about anyone who dares post on this sub forum who doesn't think Trump is the most wonderful president since Abraham Lincoln is a nasty mean uneducated doofus who only gets their political news from CNN.
I'll probably check out for awhile and let them continue with their Trump circle jerk.
... But for sure, just about anyone who dares post on this sub forum who doesn't think Trump is the most wonderful president since Abraham Lincoln is a nasty mean uneducated doofus who only gets their political news from CNN.
I'll probably check out for awhile and let them continue with their Trump circle jerk.
You're just now realizing this? I came to the conclusion a while back that this pol board isn't so much a board for political discussion as it is a curated zoo for Cal and other nutjobs to keep them from railroading discussions on the Browns portion of the board with their political craziness. We're keeping the dinosaurs here in Jurassic Park so that they don't go rampaging on the Browns Board mainland.
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Bill Clinton
The Clinton White House was mired in two major scandals involving Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky. During these investigations, President Clinton used executive privilege 14 times, which included protecting First Lady Hillary Clinton from testifying during the Whitewater hearings and protecting himself from testifying in both cases.
His executive privilege claims, as well as his attorney-client claims in the Lewinsky investigation, were challenged in federal court. Citing U.S. v. Nixon, the courts determined that the prosecutor’s needs outweighed the confidentiality of executive documents and discussions. This ruling was not appealed to the Supreme Court, as the White House sought to avoid a headline-grabbing legal loss.
Clinton was eventually impeached by the House but not convicted the Senate, allowing him to finish his second term.
LOL Cal the Republicans claimed the same obstruction crap on Clinton, and now say it's perfectly OK for Trump to pull the same garbage.
God, you guys have your heads so far up Trump's ass it's unbelievable....
You think you're going to get 50% of these tards to vote 3rd party, then you're hitting that J too long. Time to pass it over this way.
Nope, all it will take is a solid Democratic vote along with a fair share of Moderate Republicans along with a few Independents who hate Trumps guts to swing the election the other way. To this point there's no viable 3rd party candidate, and I suspect voting "none of the above" will count as a vote for Trump. In case you forgot, Trump lost the popular vote, and the only reason he won is folks hated Hillary more. #Never Trump. FWIW, any Republican who isn't Donald....
There's a reason Trump went after Biden- because he rightly surmised Joe as a far bigger threat to his reelection than either Sanders or Warren. The religious right has no use for Pete- not because he's gay, but he'll 100% push the outer limits of the LBGT crowd.
LOL Cal the Republicans claimed the same obstruction crap on Clinton, and now say it's perfectly OK for Trump to pull the same garbage.
God, you guys have your heads so far up Trump's ass it's unbelievable....
I neither supported Trump, nor did I claim that I like the guy. But, Cal is right on this one.
The charge of "Obstruction of Congress" is foolish, because Trump is challenging Congress' subpoenas in the courts. He has the right to do so; every American has the right to challenge any subpoena in court. While Trump's case is being figured out in the courts, he has the right of Executive privilege to order his staff not to testify before Congress. Clinton did the same thing when Congress subpoenaed him during his impeachment inquiry; once the courts rejected his claim, then he turned over information to Congress. Now, if the same situation happens to Trump and he still refuses to cooperate with Congress after the courts rule against him, THEN Congress would have a legitimate argument for obstruction/contempt of Congress. And the argument that many Democrats have been taking that "well, if Trump is innocent, then he should cooperate with Congress to prove his innocence" is absurd as well; our country was founded upon the doctrine of "innocent until proven guilty". No citizen is required or expected to produce evidence or cooperate with those accusing them of a crime to demonstrate their innocence; the burden of proof rests solely on the accusers to demonstrate guilt.
As for the Abuse of Power charge, the Democrats in the House, in my opinion, failed to demonstrate this charge as well. The Democrat's "evidence" has been nothing but hearsay; none of the witnesses brought forth claimed - under oath - that they DIRECTLY heard Trump mention a quid pro quo, their testimony has been 2nd and 3rd hand accounts that would be thrown out of any court in the US. If your best and strongest evidence is hearsay and whispers, with no tangible evidence, then your case is extremely weak.
Hoorta, i'm 33 years old; turning 34 next July. Since voting for John Kerry in my first Election Day when I was 18, back in 2004, I have voted Democrat almost exclusively. I voted for Obama twice. I've pretty much voted Democrat in every major and minor office. Having said all of that, I can say clear-eyed and open minded that this impeachment has been nothing but a political sham from the Democrats, from the start. Whether it's opening an impeachment inquiry on the most nebulous of "evidence", the refusal by Adam Schiff to allow the "whistleblower" to be cross-examined by Republicans as he promised, etc. From where i'm sitting, it is the Democrats who have abused their power since the very beginning.
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Like whom?
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I'll work on this ^^^^
Fine with me as long as plenty of the tards on your side vote for AOC or Bernie or or Elizabeth Warren or whoever the hell. ?
Face it 3rd party candidates have been a little bit shaky and not, in my opinion, worthy of pissing away the chance to have somebody closer to your own views.
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When you finally wrap your head around the bolded part that I've been telling YOU since I began reading this board- I am not a registered democrat, I am not a liberal, I have not voted for a democrat in any national level election. That would include Obama ( not like he was a "liberal" though) I'm like a parent that has to tell the child half a dozen times because for whatever reason it isn't registering with you. I have NO side. And if I did, it certainly wouldn't be with those clowns. I don't think you're an idiot, and I'm not "mad bro" as I type this. I genuinely need to understand if you're having trouble processing the things you read from me.
Repeat this back in your head. Then, at your earliest convenience, type it out, or copy and paste.... I don't give a damn, 10 times in a row in a response. Do that.... and then maybe we'll get to potential candidates I have my eye on. But I'm not having a dialogue with anyone who can't even begin to grasp the very basics of things I've said... Christ knows how many times now......? And if you're going to say that I've never mentioned my 3rd party preference, my disdain for Repubs and Dems, or that you just haven't paid attention (yet somehow you're going to lump me in with the other dearly departed on this board) then the only thing saving you from the ignore list is that mod tag.
I'll work on this ^^^^
When you finally wrap your head around the bolded part that I've been telling YOU since I began reading this board- I am not a registered democrat, I am not a liberal, I have not voted for a democrat in any national ............
But you are one of the charter members of the erstwhile Exodus in protest of too many conservatives on this board.
Are there any issues on which you agree with Trump and disagree with his detractors? That might be a good starting point for building the perfect independent candidate.
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Don't be coy. In this case you know damn well I mean the people on your side who can't stand Trump.
So you pick an independent that you're throwing your weight behind and take it from there. I'm going to guess that he won't be to the right of the Republican party, just a hunch.
Right or wrong?
WSS
Well Steve- would it be accurate and fair to say Trump is as far right as Warren is to the left? The problem I have is those Moderates (count me as one) who have soured on Trump's antics and happen to have a few communicating neurons to make up their\our own minds- and look at things objectively. We're apparently not welcome in the MAGA dominated current rendition of the Republican Party. Some of us aren't quite so blind to the the Cult of Personality gone haywire. FWIW, I'd vote Mike Pence in a heartbeat- Donald? Not so sure about that one. The economy is great? Great- that won't stop me from my current opinion Trump is a pompous jackass.
As you said that's always been a constant for certain people on this board. It's easier to just assume anyone that disagrees with you on one thing must be "the enemy" and disagree with you on everything. Easier to put them in a box. If you always vote straight ticket and refuse to even think otherwise, you'd assume others are the same.
Ah Woodster- I may disagree with you on a lot of things political. But for sure, just about anyone who dares post on this sub forum who doesn't think Trump is the most wonderful president since Abraham Lincoln is a nasty mean uneducated doofus who only gets their political news from CNN.
I'll probably check out for awhile and let them continue with their Trump circle jerk.
Well Steve- would it be accurate and fair to say Trump is as far right as Warren is to the left?
in what way? Only in third person condemnations by the opposition. I'd invite you to list reasons do you think he's a hard right human being or president.
The problem I have is those Moderates (count me as one) who have soured on Trump's antics and happen to have a few communicating neurons to make up their\our own minds- and look at things objectively. We're apparently not welcome in the MAGA dominated current rendition of the Republican Party. Some of us aren't quite so blind to the the Cult of Personality gone haywire.
actually I think the cult of personality is on the other side the over-the-top hatred of the guy especially in the MSM.
FWIW, I'd vote Mike Pence in a heartbeat- Donald? Not so sure about that one. The economy is great? Great- that won't stop me from my current opinion Trump is a pompous jackass.
seems to me Mike is more of a true conservative than Don who, like Obama did, wears Christianity as a disguise.
But your complaint seems to be personality-based. What particular issues would you want changed and in the opposite direction?
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So how long have I been telling you this about Trump? How many more dead people and 16 year old disabled children does he need to insult to get your attention? He's a moral midget and the tide is finally turning when Christianity Today takes a stand. And spare me the "look what he's done for the country" crap. Hitler got the same accolades. Read your history.
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So how long have I been telling you this about Trump? How many more dead people and 16 year old disabled children does he need to insult to get your attention? He's a moral midget and the tide is finally turning when Christianity Today takes a stand. And spare me the "look what he's done for the country" crap. Hitler got the same accolades. Read your history.
So how long have I been telling you this about Trump? How many more dead people and 16 year old disabled children does he need to insult to get your attention? He's a moral midget and the tide is finally turning when Christianity Today takes a stand. And spare me the "look what he's done for the country" crap. Hitler got the same accolades. Read your history.
At first glance I would guess that you are not an Evangelistic Christian? Which will render this entire post as hypocritical bullshit.
At Second Glance the article Trumpets the fact that this rag was started by Billy Graham whose son carries on his work and supports the president.
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PS constantly comparing us politicians to Hitler is really really wearing thin.
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So how long have I been telling you this about Trump? How many more dead people and 16 year old disabled children does he need to insult to get your attention? He's a moral midget and the tide is finally turning when Christianity Today takes a stand. And spare me the "look what he's done for the country" crap. Hitler got the same accolades. Read your history.
So how long have I been telling you this about Trump? How many more dead people and 16 year old disabled children does he need to insult to get your attention? He's a moral midget and the tide is finally turning when Christianity Today takes a stand. And spare me the "look what he's done for the country" crap. Hitler got the same accolades. Read your history.
How did you get so screwed up?
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So how long have I been telling you this about Trump? How many more dead people and 16 year old disabled children does he need to insult to get your attention? He's a moral midget and the tide is finally turning when Christianity Today takes a stand. And spare me the "look what he's done for the country" crap. Hitler got the same accolades. Read your history.
How did you get so screwed up?
How did you get so screwed up?
How did you get so screwed up? Here is the original in it's entirety.
BTW I fully expected trumpettes here to do what der leader does, attack the messenger for bringing reality to their doorstep rather than realizing how morally bankrupt trump is and always has been.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html
At first glance I would guess that you are not an Evangelistic Christian? Which will render this entire post as hypocritical bullshit.
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See BTW above. It matters not what I am or am not. Evangelical? No. Moral Christian? Yes. The message is always more important than the messenger and they are not wrong. There are Christian among you who have closed their ears to the truth about this man. It was time for this publication to take a real stand. You'll find their reasoning in greater detail in the original article I post here now. And why do you think I have always warned people here to beware losing their moral compass? Did you not understand I knew I would be condemned for it? Well I did and I took that stand anyway because the path through Trump is a false path. Christianity Today has finally recognized that fact, not just me. Maybe, just maybe, others here should as well.
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So how long have I been telling you this about Trump? How many more dead people and 16 year old disabled children does he need to insult to get your attention? He's a moral midget and the tide is finally turning when Christianity Today takes a stand. And spare me the "look what he's done for the country" crap. Hitler got the same accolades. Read your history.
At first glance I would guess that you are not an Evangelistic Christian? Which will render this entire post as hypocritical bullshit.
At Second Glance the article Trumpets the fact that this rag was started by Billy Graham whose son carries on his work and supports the president.
WSS
PS constantly comparing us politicians to Hitler is really really wearing thin.
WSS
At first glance I would guess that you are not an Evangelistic Christian? Which will render this entire post as hypocritical bullshit.
At Second Glance the article Trumpets the fact that this rag was started by Billy Graham whose son carries on his work and supports the president.
WSS
PS constantly comparing us politicians to Hitler is really really wearing thin.
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Your are correct and Franklin Graham came out and slammed the magazine and the article
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-graham-christianity-today-remove-billy-franklin-impeach
" Evangelist Franklin Graham accused the Christian magazine of invoking his father's name to represent "the elitist liberal wing of evangelicalism." "
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How did you get so screwed up?
How did you get so screwed up? Here is the original in it's entirety.
BTW I fully expected trumpettes here to do what der leader does, attack the messenger for bringing reality to their doorstep rather than realizing how morally bankrupt trump is and always has been.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html
At first glance I would guess that you are not an Evangelistic Christian? Which will render this entire post as hypocritical bullshit.
WSS
See BTW above. It matters not what I am or am not. Evangelical? No. Moral Christian? Yes. The message is always more important than the messenger and they are not wrong. There are Christian among you who have closed their ears to the truth about this man. It was time for this publication to take a real stand. You'll find their reasoning in greater detail in the original article I post here now. And why do you think I have always warned people here to beware losing their moral compass? Did you not understand I knew I would be condemned for it? Well I did and I took that stand anyway because the path through Trump is a false path. Christianity Today has finally recognized that fact, not just me. Maybe, just maybe, others here should as well.
How did you get so screwed up? Here is the original in it's entirety.
BTW I fully expected trumpettes here to do what der leader does, attack the messenger for bringing reality to their doorstep rather than realizing how morally bankrupt trump is and always has been.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html
See BTW above. It matters not what I am or am not. Evangelical? No. Moral Christian? Yes. The message is always more important than the messenger and they are not wrong. There are Christian among you who have closed their ears to the truth about this man. It was time for this publication to take a real stand. You'll find their reasoning in greater detail in the original article I post here now. And why do you think I have always warned people here to beware losing their moral compass? Did you not understand I knew I would be condemned for it? Well I did and I took that stand anyway because the path through Trump is a false path. Christianity Today has finally recognized that fact, not just me. Maybe, just maybe, others here should as well.
I have no idea what moral compass you are talking about.
Freckly I've done a lot of things in my life but others might frown on. I've done things in my life that I'm ashamed of and wish I could change. I can't really think of much that any politician has done that morally outrages me.
The amount of fucks I give about you're insane hatred of trump? If anyone is betting the over under is zero.
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So how long have I been telling you this about Trump? How many more dead people and 16 year old disabled children does he need to insult to get your attention? He's a moral midget and the tide is finally turning when Christianity Today takes a stand. And spare me the "look what he's done for the country" crap. Hitler got the same accolades. Read your history.
So how long have I been telling you this about Trump? How many more dead people and 16 year old disabled children does he need to insult to get your attention? He's a moral midget and the tide is finally turning when Christianity Today takes a stand. And spare me the "look what he's done for the country" crap. Hitler got the same accolades. Read your history.
Here is Rev. Franklin Graham's response:
My Response to Christianity Today:
Christianity Today released an editorial stating that President Trump should be removed from office—and they invoked my father’s name (I suppose to try to bring legitimacy to their statements), so I feel it is important for me to respond. Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece. In fact, he would be very disappointed. I have not previously shared who my father voted for in the past election, but because of this article, I feel it is necessary to share it now. My father knew Donald Trump, he believed in Donald Trump, and he voted for Donald Trump. He believed that Donald J. Trump was the man for this hour in history for our nation.
For Christianity Today to side with the Democrat Party in a totally partisan attack on the President of the United States is unfathomable. Christianity Today failed to acknowledge that not one single Republican voted with the Democrats to impeach the President. I know a number of Republicans in Congress, and many of them are strong Christians. If the President were guilty of what the Democrats claimed, these Republicans would have joined with the Democrats to impeach him. But the Democrats were not even unanimous—two voted against impeachment and one voted present. This impeachment was politically motivated, 100% partisan. Why would Christianity Today choose to take the side of the Democrat left whose only goal is to discredit and smear the name of a sitting president? They want readers to believe the Democrat leadership rather than believe the President of the United States.
Look at all the President has accomplished in a very short time. The economy of our nation is the strongest it has been in 50 years, ISIS & the caliphate have been defeated, and the President has renegotiated trade deals to benefit all Americans. The list of accomplishments is long, but for me as a Christian, the fact that he is the most pro-life president in modern history is extremely important—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that, to say it doesn’t count? The President has been a staunch defender of religious freedom at home and around the world—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that? Also the President has appointed conservative judges in record number—and Christianity today wants us to ignore that? Christianity Today feels he should be removed from office because of false accusations that the President emphatically denies.
Christianity Today said it’s time to call a spade a spade. The spade is this—Christianity Today has been used by the left for their political agenda. It’s obvious that Christianity Today has moved to the left and is representing the elitist liberal wing of evangelicalism.
Is President Trump guilty of sin? Of course he is, as were all past presidents and as each one of us are, including myself. Therefore, let’s pray for the President as he continues to lead the affairs of our nation.
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Hoorta as far as I'm concerned Whitewater was nickel and dime. Oh there was probably some crooked shit going on with some sort of land deal among the movers and shakers in Arkansas and Bill probably had a few bucks in the the kitty. Who cares about Monica Lewinsky? That's one of the reasons you learn to play guitar make a lot of money play professional sports or run for public office.
Because you get more blowjobs than the guy that works at the hardware store.
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that makes you happy to claim, but it is not true. Clinton openly lied on national tv, and the stained dress of Monica Lewinsky was a match. That makes for hard core evidence that warranted serious LEGIT consideration of prosecution.
And Trump cheats on his wife with a porn star, and then pays hush money to try and cover it up. Fine upstanding gentleman.... Your problem Cal- is you and others on this board think Trump can do no wrong.
And I suppose his tweets are deserving of an impeachment right?
No, but they're stupid as hell self aggrandizing crap. Please go back to MCing the Apprentice ASAP Donald.
And Trump cheats on his wife with a porn star, and then pays hush money to try and cover it up. Fine upstanding gentleman.... Your problem Cal- is you and others on this board think Trump can do no wrong.
Oh, bullhockey, Hoorta. It wasn't proven he did that. Paying the hush money was paid for by whatever lawyer it was, and doesn't mean guilt. It ...could mean "not wanting to be slandered just because he's running for public office". And, nobody on this board thinks Trump can do no wrong.
AGAIN AND AGAIN - I had NO USE for Trump AT ALL before the primaries. Never liked his stupid show, he was the ultimate circus barker, pompous showman I SAID OFTEN back then.
But, as a REAL AMERICAN PRESIDENT - I started LISTENING TO HIM...and really wanted him to be sincere. And the more is LISTENED to him, I understood where he was coming from. I was betting on my belief it wasn't a farce.
Listening to your Higgardly...she could NOT then nor EVER be a president.
After WE ELECTED Trump - LOOK at the ECONOMY. The support for CONSTITUTION JUDGES. The support for our MILITARY. Your obamao was an utter failure. He didn't help the poor inner cities. He really didn't help anything at all. LOOK AT OUR UNEMPLOYMENT.
All time lows ! For the black and hispanic communities !
I WANTED him to get out of the stupidass paris accord. The iranian deal was a crap deal. America has been a FOOL to be taken advantage of again and again and again.
Enough is enough. Redo the stupid trade deals.
All your hate towards Pres Trump? Despite his reputation in the past, he is being a terrific REAL AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
It is what he is doing as President that counts, Hoorta and the rest. You are just frustrated that your emotional venting towards PRESIDENT TRUMP doesn't work with the FACTS.
You voted for obaMao commie TWICE? egad. I really appreciate Jblu's honesty - the entire fake "impeach" biz is a political
hit piece. It's so much a farce that nasty Nancy doesn't want to send it over to the Senate. I watched hours of it. Well, only because I'm retired, and we were wrapping Christmas presents and working on a special woodworking project and researching vacations etc.
Your obamao commie is a "fine upstanding gentleman" ??? He put the crooks all over our gov that went and colluded to stop us from electing OUR PRESIDENT that was never going to play the deep state's game. Obamao LIED again and again about what kind of president he would be. "post racial" he said. that was a lie. "bring America together" he said. That was a lie.
He believed in Real Marriage - man/woman - that was a lie. He supported our 2nd Amendment. THAT was a LIE. He didn't know his pastor and mentor for 17 years...was a radical America hater? THAT was a LIE.
Benghazi. "Fast and Furious". His leftwing radical appointments to the courts.
"If you like your plan and doctor, you can keep your plan and doctor" you know that was giant lie, right?
Don't run and hide - embrace the facts. We elected Pres Trump to be good for America. Your obaMao hurt America for eight years. It's our turn, you don't get to stop us from having our turn.
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"We need to impeach or he'll get re-elected".
"We need to find something to impeach him for"
"Impeach the fucker"
Statement like these said openly by democrats. If you people can't see through this charade, or refuse to then you are the problem... you know who you are. Trump isn't dividing the country, you are.
During this impeachment show trial the dems have subverted the Constitution as they go around openly touting that impeaching Trump is necessary to save it. … riiiight "save the Constitution" when it is convenient for them. How fucking nauseating...
These people are not only after Trump, they are after us, we the people who elected him. We deplorables need taught a lesson never to pull a stunt like that again.
You favor impeachment for no other reason other than you hate the man. You cheapened it to the point of it being nothing more than administrative coup. You have set a precedent. Don't like him, impeach him. We could have impeached Obama 10 times over.
I hop[e this stunt backfires so badly the dem party becomes extinct.
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"We need to impeach or he'll get re-elected".
"We need to find something to impeach him for"
"Impeach the fucker"
Statement like these said openly by democrats. If you people can't see through this charade, or refuse to then you are the problem... you know who you are. Trump isn't dividing the country, you are.
During this impeachment show trial the dems have subverted the Constitution as they go around openly touting that impeaching Trump is necessary to save it. … riiiight "save the Constitution" when it is convenient for them. How fucking nauseating...
These people are not only after Trump, they are after us, we the people who elected him. We deplorables need taught a lesson never to pull a stunt like that again.
You favor impeachment for no other reason other than you hate the man. You cheapened it to the point of it being nothing more than administrative coup. You have set a precedent. Don't like him, impeach him. We could have impeached Obama 10 times over.
I hop[e this stunt backfires so badly the dem party becomes extinct.
"We need to impeach or he'll get re-elected".
"We need to find something to impeach him for"
"Impeach the fucker"
Statement like these said openly by democrats. If you people can't see through this charade, or refuse to then you are the problem... you know who you are. Trump isn't dividing the country, you are.
During this impeachment show trial the dems have subverted the Constitution as they go around openly touting that impeaching Trump is necessary to save it. … riiiight "save the Constitution" when it is convenient for them. How fucking nauseating...
These people are not only after Trump, they are after us, we the people who elected him. We deplorables need taught a lesson never to pull a stunt like that again.
You favor impeachment for no other reason other than you hate the man. You cheapened it to the point of it being nothing more than administrative coup. You have set a precedent. Don't like him, impeach him. We could have impeached Obama 10 times over.
I hop[e this stunt backfires so badly the dem party becomes extinct.
Sadly the Democratic party will never become extinct because some folks think they can get something for nothing if they vote for them. Why when Obamacare got railroaded through Congress I knew we'd never get rid of it. Entitlement programs just don't go away.
Though you do hit the nail on the head. The Dems hatred of Trump isn't so much based on his policies as it is on his personality. They view him as a xenophobic goober who's surrounded himself with a bunch of syncopants. Sorry if I mostly agree & think our Tweeter in Chief puts stuff out there that looks like its written for a third grade audience. If that's his base he's pandering to, it's a pretty sad commentary on our democracy. And if that's the way he chooses to communicate, it's an insult to my intelligence, I have higher standards for a president. MHO is if there was a Republican in the White House other than Donald, I don't doubt the Dems wouldn't have gone after him anywhere near as hard.
As jbluhm eloquently put it, sure the Dems case for impeachment is pretty flimsy, and mostly based on personal hatred. So as anyone who was being 1/2 objective knew all along, why waste all that time and energy in Congress on a personal vendetta when there's zero chance the Republican majority in the Senate is going to kick him out of office? Nancy is backtracking already.
Finally, I'm not wasting any more of my time arguing with Cal about the wondefullnes of Trump. He can have his opinion, I have mine. Anything that reflects badly on his hero is all "FAKE NEWS". Sorry if I see things a bit differently. & Steve, just too long and personal why Donald's personality seriously grates on my nerves. The wino in me says tariffs on my Bordeaux and roquefort? He's gotta go!!!
Peace, OUT.
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