Coughlin out in Jville
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Well, the home situation in Jax is such that they have contracted to play at least one or two games each year in London.
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Jville has not been a bad NFL city. Like anywhere, when they win, they get fans to show.
And when they don't win- remember the tarps covering the upper levels? MHO is Jacksonville should never have gotten a franchise in the first place, too small a market. Not with Tampa and Miami already NFL cities in Florida. Unfortunately, I believe they have a Cleveland level poison pill stadium lease, meaning relocating them would be difficult if not impossible in the near future.
And when they don't win- remember the tarps covering the upper levels? MHO is Jacksonville should never have gotten a franchise in the first place, too small a market. Not with Tampa and Miami already NFL cities in Florida. Unfortunately, I believe they have a Cleveland level poison pill stadium lease, meaning relocating them would be difficult if not impossible in the near future.
But you think Pitt deserves an NFL team, right? Every year Jville gets more fans to go to games than the Steelers do. So now what?
Oh, and guess who outdrew the Browns that last full season on record? Oh that's right, the Jags out -pulled the Browns in 2018. So should we remove
the Browns out of Cleveland again. Basing it on what you assert, it's time to move the Browns to London; Jville fills more seats than Cleveland does.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/attendance.htm
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And that latter fact is what got the union to tell its players not to go there.
Yikes.
I can't believe that team is still in Jacksonville. What were the cities that lost out on getting that expansion team?
Yikes.
I can't believe that team is still in Jacksonville. What were the cities that lost out on getting that expansion team?
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/attendance.htm
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Coughlin is not even remotely useful as an executive. He was forced into trading one of the best CB's, ramsey. JAX can also thank him for the next several millions of dollars thrown into the air and burned in the general direction of Nick Foles.
And he let Robinson go. And he signed Norwell. And he wasted way too much time on Bortles.
Fun fact: Over 25% of all NFLPA player grievances came just from JAX.
Coughlin is not even remotely useful as an executive. He was forced into trading one of the best CB's, ramsey. JAX can also thank him for the next several millions of dollars thrown into the air and burned in the general direction of Nick Foles.
And he let Robinson go. And he signed Norwell. And he wasted way too much time on Bortles.
Fun fact: Over 25% of all NFLPA player grievances came just from JAX.
Now, with the facts coming out, it is beyond obvious Tom had to go. His Nazi level fining players was so over-the-top.
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And when they don't win- remember the tarps covering the upper levels? MHO is Jacksonville should never have gotten a franchise in the first place, too small a market. Not with Tampa and Miami already NFL cities in Florida. Unfortunately, I believe they have a Cleveland level poison pill stadium lease, meaning relocating them would be difficult if not impossible in the near future.
But you think Pitt deserves an NFL team, right? Every year Jville gets more fans to go to games than the Steelers do. So now what?
Oh, and guess who outdrew the Browns that last full season on record? Oh that's right, the Jags out -pulled the Browns in 2018. So should we remove
the Browns out of Cleveland again. Basing it on what you assert, it's time to move the Browns to London; Jville fills more seats than Cleveland does.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/attendance.htm
But you think Pitt deserves an NFL team, right? Every year Jville gets more fans to go to games than the Steelers do. So now what?
Oh, and guess who outdrew the Browns that last full season on record? Oh that's right, the Jags out -pulled the Browns in 2018. So should we remove
the Browns out of Cleveland again. Basing it on what you assert, it's time to move the Browns to London; Jville fills more seats than Cleveland does.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/attendance.htm
And by that same link, both had more attendance than Pittsburgh did. Or the Washington Redskins. A lot of that depends on the capacity of the stadiums they play in....home and road. Cowboys have a 90K stadium. Others have capacities that are only 50-60K. I mean, the Jags were #10 overall per your link. That does not make them the 10th most popular team in the league.
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Browns stadium is only ranked 20th in the NFL in capacity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_National_Football_League_stadiums
Remember also, that next year there will be 2 new stadiums in the league: Vegas/LA.
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The Patriots should be punished and moved to London for two years for the Spygate 2 crime.
Have Kraft pay for the season ticket holders flights and lodging.
Now that would be a punishment. Losing a draft pick and a million bucks isn't going to make a difference in their ways.
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But you think Pitt deserves an NFL team, right? Every year Jville gets more fans to go to games than the Steelers do. So now what?
Oh, and guess who outdrew the Browns that last full season on record? Oh that's right, the Jags out -pulled the Browns in 2018. So should we remove
the Browns out of Cleveland again. Basing it on what you assert, it's time to move the Browns to London; Jville fills more seats than Cleveland does.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/attendance.htm
And by that same link, both had more attendance than Pittsburgh did. Or the Washington Redskins. A lot of that depends on the capacity of the stadiums they play in....home and road. Cowboys have a 90K stadium. Others have capacities that are only 50-60K. I mean, the Jags were #10 overall per your link. That does not make them the 10th most popular team in the league.
And by that same link, both had more attendance than Pittsburgh did. Or the Washington Redskins. A lot of that depends on the capacity of the stadiums they play in....home and road. Cowboys have a 90K stadium. Others have capacities that are only 50-60K. I mean, the Jags were #10 overall per your link. That does not make them the 10th most popular team in the league.
No but it does dispel the myth that they don't have support.
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And by that same link, both had more attendance than Pittsburgh did. Or the Washington Redskins. A lot of that depends on the capacity of the stadiums they play in....home and road. Cowboys have a 90K stadium. Others have capacities that are only 50-60K. I mean, the Jags were #10 overall per your link. That does not make them the 10th most popular team in the league.
No but it does dispel the myth that they don't have support.
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I think everyone should use this as the prime example of “tough guy” football coaching and leadership is over. Coughlin Tried to old school kick trash cans over type leadership with the Jags and he blew the whole thing up and had a literal mutiny as a result.
gotta find that middle ground.
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And by that same link, both had more attendance than Pittsburgh did. Or the Washington Redskins. A lot of that depends on the capacity of the stadiums they play in....home and road. Cowboys have a 90K stadium. Others have capacities that are only 50-60K. I mean, the Jags were #10 overall per your link. That does not make them the 10th most popular team in the league.
No but it does dispel the myth that they don't have support.
No but it does dispel the myth that they don't have support.
Well, Jacksonville is the largest city in the US so that would account for a lot of support I would think.
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The Patriots should be punished and moved to London for two years for the Spygate 2 crime.
Have Kraft pay for the season ticket holders flights and lodging.
Now that would be a punishment. Losing a draft pick and a million bucks isn't going to make a difference in their ways.
The Patriots should be punished and moved to London for two years for the Spygate 2 crime.
Have Kraft pay for the season ticket holders flights and lodging.
Now that would be a punishment. Losing a draft pick and a million bucks isn't going to make a difference in their ways.
Relocate them to Jacksonville.
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Well, Jacksonville is the largest city in the US so that would account for a lot of support I would think.
Actually there are several cities in Alaska that are larger area wise than Jacksonville
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And when they don't win- remember the tarps covering the upper levels? MHO is Jacksonville should never have gotten a franchise in the first place, too small a market. Not with Tampa and Miami already NFL cities in Florida. Unfortunately, I believe they have a Cleveland level poison pill stadium lease, meaning relocating them would be difficult if not impossible in the near future.
But you think Pitt deserves an NFL team, right? Every year Jville gets more fans to go to games than the Steelers do. So now what?
Oh, and guess who outdrew the Browns that last full season on record? Oh that's right, the Jags out -pulled the Browns in 2018. So should we remove
the Browns out of Cleveland again. Basing it on what you assert, it's time to move the Browns to London; Jville fills more seats than Cleveland does.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/attendance.htm
But you think Pitt deserves an NFL team, right? Every year Jville gets more fans to go to games than the Steelers do. So now what?
Oh, and guess who outdrew the Browns that last full season on record? Oh that's right, the Jags out -pulled the Browns in 2018. So should we remove
the Browns out of Cleveland again. Basing it on what you assert, it's time to move the Browns to London; Jville fills more seats than Cleveland does.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/attendance.htm
Is that including their "home game" in London where they drew 85k? That right there is 18k more than the browns stadium holds which pulls them within 8k. Not too mention their stadium holds 15k more than the browns. So they had the opportunity to have 123k more fans attended their games yet only out did there browns by 26k in home numbers. Lastly I believe hoorta was pointing out when they don't have a winning team (and the previous year they went to the conference champ) they don't draw. Even when they win they don't sell out lol. Granted they didn't have a great year last year but season tickets are bought in advance of the season and those numbers go off tickets sold not actually people in building. The tarps he is referencing is what makes it go from an 82k stadium to a 67k stadium.
Seeing as how they have an opportunity to get more fans let's talk percentage of stadium filled. 81.3% for jags (not including London game because that's not a home game) 96.8% for the browns.
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But you think Pitt deserves an NFL team, right? Every year Jville gets more fans to go to games than the Steelers do. So now what?
Oh, and guess who outdrew the Browns that last full season on record? Oh that's right, the Jags out -pulled the Browns in 2018. So should we remove
the Browns out of Cleveland again. Basing it on what you assert, it's time to move the Browns to London; Jville fills more seats than Cleveland does.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/attendance.htm
Is that including their "home game" in London where they drew 85k? That right there is 18k more than the browns stadium holds which pulls them within 8k. Not too mention their stadium holds 15k more than the browns. So they had the opportunity to have 123k more fans attended their games yet only out did there browns by 26k in home numbers. Lastly I believe hoorta was pointing out when they don't have a winning team (and the previous year they went to the conference champ) they don't draw. Even when they win they don't sell out lol. Granted they didn't have a great year last year but season tickets are bought in advance of the season and those numbers go off tickets sold not actually people in building. The tarps he is referencing is what makes it go from an 82k stadium to a 67k stadium.
Seeing as how they have an opportunity to get more fans let's talk percentage of stadium filled. 81.3% for jags (not including London game because that's not a home game) 96.8% for the browns.
Is that including their "home game" in London where they drew 85k?
IDK, can't find stats for London games, but have you watched those game? Sure don't look anything like 85k to me. Maybe 35.
That right there is 18k more than the browns stadium holds which pulls them within 8k. Not too mention their stadium holds 15k more than the browns. So they had the opportunity to have 123k more fans attended their games yet only out did there browns by 26k in home numbers. Lastly I believe hoorta was pointing out when they don't have a winning team (and the previous year they went to the conference champ) they don't draw. Even when they win they don't sell out lol. Granted they didn't have a great year last year but season tickets are bought in advance of the season and those numbers go off tickets sold not actually people in building. The tarps he is referencing is what makes it go from an 82k stadium to a 67k stadium.
I gave you the facts. They draw more attendance than Pitt, Cleveland and so forth. I totally don't buy the 85k London # but prove me wrong.
Seeing as how they have an opportunity to get more fans let's talk percentage of stadium filled. 81.3% for jags (not including London game because that's not a home game) 96.8% for the browns.
OK, I'll go through this one more time. Jags had to overbuild stadium for 2 things:
1. They wanted to host a SB. (Did that)
2. UF-GA games are huge in Jville. Need 80k seats.
If any AFCN team had 80k seats, they'd never fill them. If they could, they would.
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The Patriots should be punished and moved to London for two years for the Spygate 2 crime.
Have Kraft pay for the season ticket holders flights and lodging.
Now that would be a punishment. Losing a draft pick and a million bucks isn't going to make a difference in their ways.
Relocate them to Jacksonville.
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Is that including their "home game" in London where they drew 85k?
IDK, can't find stats for London games, but have you watched those game? Sure don't look anything like 85k to me. Maybe 35.
That right there is 18k more than the browns stadium holds which pulls them within 8k. Not too mention their stadium holds 15k more than the browns. So they had the opportunity to have 123k more fans attended their games yet only out did there browns by 26k in home numbers. Lastly I believe hoorta was pointing out when they don't have a winning team (and the previous year they went to the conference champ) they don't draw. Even when they win they don't sell out lol. Granted they didn't have a great year last year but season tickets are bought in advance of the season and those numbers go off tickets sold not actually people in building. The tarps he is referencing is what makes it go from an 82k stadium to a 67k stadium.
I gave you the facts. They draw more attendance than Pitt, Cleveland and so forth. I totally don't buy the 85k London # but prove me wrong.
Seeing as how they have an opportunity to get more fans let's talk percentage of stadium filled. 81.3% for jags (not including London game because that's not a home game) 96.8% for the browns.
OK, I'll go through this one more time. Jags had to overbuild stadium for 2 things:
1. They wanted to host a SB. (Did that)
2. UF-GA games are huge in Jville. Need 80k seats.
If any AFCN team had 80k seats, they'd never fill them. If they could, they would.
I gave you the facts. They draw more attendance than Pitt, Cleveland and so forth. I totally don't buy the 85k London # but prove me wrong.
OK, I'll go through this one more time. Jags had to overbuild stadium for 2 things:
1. They wanted to host a SB. (Did that)
2. UF-GA games are huge in Jville. Need 80k seats.
If any AFCN team had 80k seats, they'd never fill them. If they could, they would.
The Cleveland Browns had an 80K+ stadium that they filled for decades at a time.
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Is that including their "home game" in London where they drew 85k?
IDK, can't find stats for London games, but have you watched those game? Sure don't look anything like 85k to me. Maybe 35.
That right there is 18k more than the browns stadium holds which pulls them within 8k. Not too mention their stadium holds 15k more than the browns. So they had the opportunity to have 123k more fans attended their games yet only out did there browns by 26k in home numbers. Lastly I believe hoorta was pointing out when they don't have a winning team (and the previous year they went to the conference champ) they don't draw. Even when they win they don't sell out lol. Granted they didn't have a great year last year but season tickets are bought in advance of the season and those numbers go off tickets sold not actually people in building. The tarps he is referencing is what makes it go from an 82k stadium to a 67k stadium.
I gave you the facts. They draw more attendance than Pitt, Cleveland and so forth. I totally don't buy the 85k London # but prove me wrong.
Seeing as how they have an opportunity to get more fans let's talk percentage of stadium filled. 81.3% for jags (not including London game because that's not a home game) 96.8% for the browns.
OK, I'll go through this one more time. Jags had to overbuild stadium for 2 things:
1. They wanted to host a SB. (Did that)
2. UF-GA games are huge in Jville. Need 80k seats.
If any AFCN team had 80k seats, they'd never fill them. If they could, they would.
I gave you the facts. They draw more attendance than Pitt, Cleveland and so forth. I totally don't buy the 85k London # but prove me wrong.
Here you go they got credited with 85k because this was a "home game" -17k difference. Then in just their home opener because of the bigger stadium (yet still not sold out for a home opener of a team that went to conference championship the year before) they got 77k -10k difference. A whopping total of 27k and they outdrew the browns by less than 26k. Keep coming with your facts and I'll keep responding with "no vaseline".
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Actually there are several cities in Alaska that are larger area wise than Jacksonville
I was talking about the USA not rUSsiA
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