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  • First round has to be OT.  Seriously, stop messing around.  14 is a good spot for one of Wirfs / Wills / Jackson.  Yes, I'm assuming we win the coin flip w Carolina. I'm not sold on the Louisville guy.

    Second round has to be LB/S if Randall or Schobert walks.

    We have Titans' 3rd in addition to ours because Duke Johnson is good [who knew?] so we'd have 14 and something in the 20's.. LB/S/DL.

    @unsympathetic said:

    First round has to be OT.  Seriously, stop messing around.  14 is a good spot for one of Wirfs / Wills / Jackson.  Yes, I'm assuming we win the coin flip w Carolina. I'm not sold on the Louisville guy.

    Second round has to be LB/S if Randall or Schobert walks.

    We have Titans' 3rd in addition to ours because Duke Johnson is good [who knew?] so we'd have 14 and something in the 20's.. LB/S/DL.

    Just checked, Wirfs isn't expected to declare.  ?

    Personally hoping for an Andrew Thomas bong rip video to surface.

  • well, so far, and I know it's ridiculous to do an entire mock draft, here is what I'm kinda coming up with.

    Just a preliminary look-see and guessing at the first three rounds.

    Browns
    first round pick - about the 15th?
    Isaiah Simmons, LB/S, Clemson, 6'3", 230 lbs,4.37

    Think a blazing faster, just as instinctive Schobert. He is an ***outstanding*** tackler.  He can actually play safety and be a star. Not sure about Redwine as a starter. He can gain some weight, and become a ray lewis type lb.  Lewis was 6'1", 240.

    second round pick
    Josh Jones, LT, Houston, 6'7", 320 lbs

    A lot of talk about him going in the first round. But it's a deep deep draft for tackles, so I can cheat. He can step in at LT by the season opener.

    third round picks:
    Marcus Norman, ROT, South Florida, 6'6", 316 lbs

    Hubbard is just ok at best some of the time. But I really like this kid. A lot of fine OT's make this possible?

    Jake Ferguson, TE, Wisconsin, 6'5", 250 lbs ...

    can run a 4.65 maybe, but is a big pass catcher, willing blocker, and

    loves the game. Gets open for several catches in big games when their wr's couldn't do much. Maybe Njoku is traded...something is up with that.

    @calfoxwc said:

    well, so far, and I know it's ridiculous to do an entire mock draft, here is what I'm kinda coming up with.

    Just a preliminary look-see and guessing at the first three rounds.

    Browns
    first round pick - about the 15th?
    Isaiah Simmons, LB/S, Clemson, 6'3", 230 lbs,4.37

    Think a blazing faster, just as instinctive Schobert. He is an ***outstanding*** tackler.  He can actually play safety and be a star. Not sure about Redwine as a starter. He can gain some weight, and become a ray lewis type lb.  Lewis was 6'1", 240.

    second round pick
    Josh Jones, LT, Houston, 6'7", 320 lbs

    A lot of talk about him going in the first round. But it's a deep deep draft for tackles, so I can cheat. He can step in at LT by the season opener.

    third round picks:
    Marcus Norman, ROT, South Florida, 6'6", 316 lbs

    Hubbard is just ok at best some of the time. But I really like this kid. A lot of fine OT's make this possible?

    Jake Ferguson, TE, Wisconsin, 6'5", 250 lbs ...

    can run a 4.65 maybe, but is a big pass catcher, willing blocker, and

    loves the game. Gets open for several catches in big games when their wr's couldn't do much. Maybe Njoku is traded...something is up with that.

    Even though you have him as only a 3rd round pick,  I don't think TE is that high of a priority for us.   The first 3 you mention:  an killer LB and a couple of OTs sound good. I would probably go defense again with that 2d  3rd rounder.

  • The BROWNS do need defensive and OL help plus when will they know if "dumb dumb" Garrett will be back?

    The BROWNS need all the help they can get to resume their quest for the AFCN dominance we thought they were building.

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  • The BROWNS do need defensive and OL help plus when will they know if "dumb dumb" Garrett will be back?

    The BROWNS need all the help they can get to resume their quest for the AFCN dominance we thought they were building.

    OuijaZilla.jpg

    @mjp28 said:

    The BROWNS do need defensive and OL help plus when will they know if "dumb dumb" Garrett will be back?

    The BROWNS need all the help they can get to resume their quest for the AFCN dominance we thought they were building.

    OuijaZilla.jpg

    god i would love to have that young kid from osu instead of the moronic garrett.....me thinks he is going to get a 10 game suspension to start next season bringing the total to a yr....which i think if it does happen, he got off the hook....

  • How many picks do you think we have, Dutch???

    We have:

    • One 1st
    • One 2nd
    • Two 3rds (*corrected)
    • One 4th (*corrected)
    • One 6th, and
    • Two 7ths

    Thru today's games we set up to pick 14th.

    As for when to start the draft talk... it's after underclassmen declare.

    Right now this OL class is pretty thin... especially at OT... but after a dose of Juniors it looks a lot better.... at least two, 1st-round-quality LTs better.... and one is even named Thomas.

    @tour2ma said:

    How many picks do you think we have, Dutch???

    We have:

    • One 1st
    • One 2nd
    • Two 3rds (*corrected)
    • One 4th (*corrected)
    • One 6th, and
    • Two 7ths

    Thru today's games we set up to pick 14th.

    As for when to start the draft talk... it's after underclassmen declare.

    Right now this OL class is pretty thin... especially at OT... but after a dose of Juniors it looks a lot better.... at least two, 1st-round-quality LTs better.... and one is even named Thomas.

    Not a good year to draft OTs. But they have to. And right now, they don't seem overly interested in resigning Schobert, so LB will definitely be drafted, and a S. I'd say two OTs, LB, S, an OG later. TE. Njoku can't stay healthy, all he still has is "potential."

  • @mjp28 said:

    The BROWNS do need defensive and OL help plus when will they know if "dumb dumb" Garrett will be back?

    The BROWNS need all the help they can get to resume their quest for the AFCN dominance we thought they were building.

    OuijaZilla.jpg

    god i would love to have that young kid from osu instead of the moronic garrett.....me thinks he is going to get a 10 game suspension to start next season bringing the total to a yr....which i think if it does happen, he got off the hook....

    @browns52 said:

    god i would love to have that young kid from osu instead of the moronic garrett.....me thinks he is going to get a 10 game suspension to start next season bringing the total to a yr....which i think if it does happen, he got off the hook....

    That's a massive loss of $. Plus, his value to be in ads is null and void for at least 1 year. This stunt will cost him millions. 

  • Screw Njoku....play Carlson.  The position is fixed.

  • Call me curiously intrigued ?.. So I only caught the Buffalo vs Charlotte Bowl game yesterday.. Khalil Mack's younger brother Ledarius is a redshirt senior also playing at Buffalo. LB/ST/DE so he got my attention as a plug in pass rusher..Ledarius has no invite to Senior Bowl nor even the Shrine Bowl yet... Can a redshirt Senior transfer, get a invite or does Ledarius have to declare first?  

  • Call me curiously intrigued ?.. So I only caught the Buffalo vs Charlotte Bowl game yesterday.. Khalil Mack's younger brother Ledarius is a redshirt senior also playing at Buffalo. LB/ST/DE so he got my attention as a plug in pass rusher..Ledarius has no invite to Senior Bowl nor even the Shrine Bowl yet... Can a redshirt Senior transfer, get a invite or does Ledarius have to declare first?  

    @gumby73 said:

    Call me curiously intrigued ?.. So I only caught the Buffalo vs Charlotte Bowl game yesterday.. Khalil Mack's younger brother Ledarius is a redshirt senior also playing at Buffalo. LB/ST/DE so he got my attention as a plug in pass rusher..Ledarius has no invite to Senior Bowl nor even the Shrine Bowl yet... Can a redshirt Senior transfer, get a invite or does Ledarius have to declare first?  

    Just because a guy is good does not mean that his brother will be just as good.   Obviously it can happen  (see:  Bosa).  Do you have any scouting report on this guy besides "he is Khalil's brother"?

  • One Early Mock Draft:

    1
    CIN
    6'4"
    216 lbs
    3
    MIA
    6'1"
    218 lbs
    4
    WSH
    6'5"
    320 lbs
    6
    ARI
    6'1"
    192 lbs
    7
    NYJ
    6'2"
    189 lbs
    8
    JAX
    6'5"
    320 lbs
    9
    LAC
    6'6"
    231 lbs
    10
    DEN
    6'5"
    325 lbs
    11
    CAR
    6'3"
    203 lbs
    12
    ATL
    6'5"
    277 lbs
    13
    OAK
    6'0"
    183 lbs
    14
    IND
    6'4"
    230 lbs
    16
    PHI
    5'10"
    199 lbs
    18
    OAKchi.png
    6'3"
    233 lbs
    19
    TEN
    6'4"
    200 lbs
    20
    JAXlar.png
    6'2"
    195 lbs
    21
    DAL
    6'1"
    196 lbs
    24
    MIN
    6'1"
    192 lbs
    26
    KC
    6'3"
    319 lbs
    27
    GB
    6'7"
    309 lbs
    28
    SF
    6'1"
    189 lbs
    29
    NE
    6'5"
    320 lbs
    31
    SEA
    6'6"
    310 lbs
    32
    BAL
    6'4"
    238 lbs
  • How would this Alex Leatherwood look on the Browns?  Seems to me he is what we may need. 

  • well, so far, and I know it's ridiculous to do an entire mock draft, here is what I'm kinda coming up with.

    Just a preliminary look-see and guessing at the first three rounds.

    Browns
    first round pick - about the 15th?
    Isaiah Simmons, LB/S, Clemson, 6'3", 230 lbs,4.37

    Think a blazing faster, just as instinctive Schobert. He is an ***outstanding*** tackler.  He can actually play safety and be a star. Not sure about Redwine as a starter. He can gain some weight, and become a ray lewis type lb.  Lewis was 6'1", 240.

    second round pick
    Josh Jones, LT, Houston, 6'7", 320 lbs

    A lot of talk about him going in the first round. But it's a deep deep draft for tackles, so I can cheat. He can step in at LT by the season opener.

    third round picks:
    Marcus Norman, ROT, South Florida, 6'6", 316 lbs

    Hubbard is just ok at best some of the time. But I really like this kid. A lot of fine OT's make this possible?

    Jake Ferguson, TE, Wisconsin, 6'5", 250 lbs ...

    can run a 4.65 maybe, but is a big pass catcher, willing blocker, and

    loves the game. Gets open for several catches in big games when their wr's couldn't do much. Maybe Njoku is traded...something is up with that.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Browns
    first round pick - about the 15th?
    Isaiah Simmons, LB/S, Clemson, 6'3", 230 lbs,4.37

    Think a blazing faster, just as instinctive Schobert. He is an ***outstanding*** tackler.  He can actually play safety and be a star. Not sure about Redwine as a starter. He can gain some weight, and become a ray lewis type lb.  Lewis was 6'1", 240.

    second round pick
    Josh Jones, LT, Houston, 6'7", 320 lbs

    I like both players... a lot. Simmons looks like a top ten cinch to me and Jones a late 1st... maybe a bit higher if he goes off at The Combine. He's a 4-year starter, but played in a OT friendly, quick-pass scheme, so his tech is under-developed.

    I don't think either falls to us where we will be sitting in those first two rounds, but could get within shouting distance... just depends how loud you are willing to shout. Problem is we can't shout at every player we like... such is life on the middle of rounds.

    An alternative... assuming no one falls to us we like... is to trade down in the 1st where Josh might be a value pick as well as a need.

  • From Walter football......

    brownsb_logo.gif Cleveland Browns: Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville Louisville_logo.gif
    Perhaps the Browns will think twice about entering the season with Greg Robinson as their left tackle. They desperately need help on the offensive line.

    At 6-7, 340, Mekhi Becton is a massive human being. Despite his size, however, Becton is athletic and flexible.

    And the neighbourhood the BROWNS might be in.....
     

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  • Mekaleka Hiney-who?

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    Pretty sad 40 time...

  • Mekaleka Hiney-who?

    image.thumb.png.f42e39f7e0fb5977980f2d569404ad52.png

    Pretty sad 40 time...

    @tour2ma said:

    Mekaleka Hiney-who?

    image.thumb.png.f42e39f7e0fb5977980f2d569404ad52.png

    Pretty sad 40 time...

    OUCH. You can bet he will lose some weight and better THAT time. Actually, I really, really like Becton. He's a very big smart kid, loves  the game, physical, far quicker feet that you'd think he'd have at 355/369 ? lbs. He's a leader... and some mocks have him in the first round...2nd and third rounds. I would think he's more a guard, in the pros...at RT? I think he may be a huge steal at ROG for the Browns. I thought he'd slide to the 4th or 5th, but it seems his stock is rising.

  • Well.....now it IS official.....Browns eliminated.    So, here for now is the order for the top half of the draft:

    2020 NFL Draft Order

    PICK TEAM RECORD WIN% GB SOS
     
    STREAK
     
    1 1-14 .067 -- .561 Lost 3
     
    2 3-12 .200 2.0 .500 Lost 3
     
    3 3-11-1 .233 2.5 .507 Lost 8
     
    4 4-11 .267 3.0 .470 Won 2
     
    5 4-11 .267 3.0 .492 Won 1
     
    6 4-9-1 .321 4.0 .536 Won 1
     
    7 5-10 .333 4.0 .481 Lost 1
     
    8 5-10 .333 4.0 .509 Lost 2
     
    9 5-10 .333 4.0 .546 Lost 7
     
    10 6-9 .400 5.0 .475 Won 1
     
    11 6-9 .400 5.0 .517 Won 1
     
    12 6-9 .400 5.0 .527 Lost 2
     
    13 6-9 .400 5.0 .553 Won 3
     
    14 7-8 .467 6.0 .470 Won 1
     
    15 7-8 .467 6.0 .485 Won 1
     
    16 7-8 .467 6.0 .500 Lost 1
  • I'd never root for the Browns to lose.... but.... a loss next week probably cinches Freddie getting shitcanned AND the Browns near or in the Top 10 of the Draft. 

  • I'd never root for the Browns to lose.... but.... a loss next week probably cinches Freddie getting shitcanned AND the Browns near or in the Top 10 of the Draft. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'd never root for the Browns to lose.... but.... a loss next week probably cinches Freddie getting shitcanned AND the Browns near or in the Top 10 of the Draft. 

    Yep and it’s Hard to excited for Freddie Part 2 and Alex Leatherwood 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Mekaleka Hiney-who?

    image.thumb.png.f42e39f7e0fb5977980f2d569404ad52.png

    Pretty sad 40 time...

    OUCH. You can bet he will lose some weight and better THAT time. Actually, I really, really like Becton. He's a very big smart kid, loves  the game, physical, far quicker feet that you'd think he'd have at 355/369 ? lbs. He's a leader... and some mocks have him in the first round...2nd and third rounds. I would think he's more a guard, in the pros...at RT? I think he may be a huge steal at ROG for the Browns. I thought he'd slide to the 4th or 5th, but it seems his stock is rising.

    @calfoxwc said:

    OUCH. You can bet he will lose some weight and better THAT time

    Quite possibly... but to be clear... it's not the 40 time per se that bothers me, it's the 10-yd split that may be at the root of it.

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Alex Leatherwood 

    One OT option that does not excite me, but that I have only looked at in game broadcasts.