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  • mjp28 mjp28M In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
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    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    The decade of 2010-present what have we learned about the BROWNS ?  Ownership, drafting, coaching, player development, whatever.

    2019 6-9 plus one game left... *6-10. 3rd - AFC North. Kitchens  (fired after last game)

    Year Record Finish (Regular / Post Season) Coach
    2018 7-8-1 3rd -- AFC North -- Hue Jackson,
    Gregg Williams
    Roster / Stats
    2017 0-16-0 4th -- AFC North -- Hue Jackson Roster / Stats
    2016 1-15-0 4th -- AFC North -- Hue Jackson Roster / Stats
    2015 3-13-0 4th -- AFC North -- Mike Pettine Roster / Stats
    2014 7-9-0 4th -- AFC North -- Mike Pettine Roster / Stats
    2013 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Rob Chudzinski Roster / Stats
    2012 5-11-0 4th -- AFC North -- Pat Shurmur Roster / Stats
    2011 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Pat Shurmur Roster / Stats
    2010 5-11-0 3rd -- AFC North -- Eric Mangini Roster / Stats
    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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      Maybe we need a larger sample size.

      Stats
      2009 5-11-0 4th -- AFC North -- Eric Mangini Roster / Stats
      2008 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
      2007 10-6-0 2nd -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
      2006 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
      2005 6-10-0 T3rd -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
      2004 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Butch Davis,
      Terry Robiskie
      Roster / Stats
      2003 5-11-0 4th -- AFC North -- Butch Davis Roster / Stats
      2002 9-7-0 2nd -- AFC North 0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs Butch Davis Roster / Stats
      2001 7-9-0 T3rd -- AFC Central -- Butch Davis Roster / Stats
      2000 3-13-0 6th -- AFC Central -- Chris Palmer Roster / Stats
      1999 2-14-0 6th -- AFC Central -- Chris Palmer Roster / Stats
      1995 5-11-0 4th -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
      1994 11-5-0 2nd -- AFC Central 1-1 - Lost Divisional Playoffs Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
      1993 7-9-0 3rd -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
      1992 7-9-0 3rd -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
      1991 6-10-0 3rd -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
      1990 3-13-0 4th -- AFC Central -- Bud Carson,
      Jim Shofner
      Roster / Stats
      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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        TypicalBrowns50T TypicalBrowns50 wrote on last edited by TypicalBrowns50
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        I’ve learned that truly there are no good Browns stats

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          IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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          Well, we haven’t finished as low as 6th place since 2000. That’s progress!

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            OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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            The decade of 2010-present what have we learned about the BROWNS ?

            .....that we've had two owners and neither one was any good at hiring people to handle the organization / team.

            BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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              GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by Gorka
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              We were on Hard Knocks.  What the Browns should have been featured on was Unsolved Mysteries.

              After this season especially.

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                GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by
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                If anyone hasn't learned this by now ...We are fans of the most ridiculed, laughed at, embarrassing franchise in the history of pro sports bar none. How the fuck does that feel.

                This year brought:

                Projected playoff /Super Bowl contenders resorted to being the same old Browns.

                Myles Garretts helmet swinging episode resulting in an indefinite suspension.

                Reports of OBJ and Landry saying "come get me". Whether true or not doesn't matter.

                Kitchens "Pittsburgh Started It" shirt.

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                  mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                  How many of us including me thought that Baker Mayfield would be a top 10 even top 5 quarterback especially with his new weapons and a decent set of running backs.  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001091708/article/qb-index-week-17-patrick-mahomes-vaults-russell-wilson

                  The main question was why is he #22 going into the last game?  Who is more to blame the OL or HC? Can he rebound in 2020 to his 2018 numbers or better?

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                  GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                    If anyone hasn't learned this by now ...We are fans of the most ridiculed, laughed at, embarrassing franchise in the history of pro sports bar none. How the fuck does that feel.

                    This year brought:

                    Projected playoff /Super Bowl contenders resorted to being the same old Browns.

                    Myles Garretts helmet swinging episode resulting in an indefinite suspension.

                    Reports of OBJ and Landry saying "come get me". Whether true or not doesn't matter.

                    Kitchens "Pittsburgh Started It" shirt.

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                    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                    @gorka said:

                    If anyone hasn't learned this by now ...We are fans of the most ridiculed, laughed at, embarrassing franchise in the history of pro sports bar none. How the fuck does that feel.

                    Hard to argue, but I will:

                    I think these franchises warrant ridicule, but don't get it because it's NOT Cleveland.....Sacramento Kings (KC-Omaha Kings, Cincinnati Royals), San Diego Padres, and the Detroit Lions. The Arizona Cardinals have had moderate success in the last 10 years only, with a Super Bowl appearance and one of the greatest of all time in Larry Fitzgerald (and Kurt Warner for a brief time), otherwise they'd be worse. 

                    The Browns are akin to the Toronto Maple Leafs- both franchises have a huge fan base, and a history of(ancient) success. 

                    It effing bites for sure. It's hard to be so lousy for so long in a salary cap era. 

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                      mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                      One thing for sure.....

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                      GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                        The decade of 2010-present what have we learned about the BROWNS ?  Ownership, drafting, coaching, player development, whatever.

                        2019 6-9 plus one game left... *6-10. 3rd - AFC North. Kitchens  (fired after last game)

                        Year Record Finish (Regular / Post Season) Coach
                        2018 7-8-1 3rd -- AFC North -- Hue Jackson,
                        Gregg Williams
                        Roster / Stats
                        2017 0-16-0 4th -- AFC North -- Hue Jackson Roster / Stats
                        2016 1-15-0 4th -- AFC North -- Hue Jackson Roster / Stats
                        2015 3-13-0 4th -- AFC North -- Mike Pettine Roster / Stats
                        2014 7-9-0 4th -- AFC North -- Mike Pettine Roster / Stats
                        2013 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Rob Chudzinski Roster / Stats
                        2012 5-11-0 4th -- AFC North -- Pat Shurmur Roster / Stats
                        2011 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Pat Shurmur Roster / Stats
                        2010 5-11-0 3rd -- AFC North -- Eric Mangini Roster / Stats
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                        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                        @mjp28 said:

                        The decade of 2010-present what have we learned about the BROWNS ?  Ownership, drafting, coaching, player development, whatever.

                        2019 6-9 plus one game left

                        Year Record Finish (Regular / Post Season) Coach
                        2018 7-8-1 3rd -- AFC North -- Hue Jackson,
                        Gregg Williams
                        Roster / Stats
                        2017 0-16-0 4th -- AFC North -- Hue Jackson Roster / Stats
                        2016 1-15-0 4th -- AFC North -- Hue Jackson Roster / Stats
                        2015 3-13-0 4th -- AFC North -- Mike Pettine Roster / Stats
                        2014 7-9-0 4th -- AFC North -- Mike Pettine Roster / Stats
                        2013 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Rob Chudzinski Roster / Stats
                        2012 5-11-0 4th -- AFC North -- Pat Shurmur Roster / Stats
                        2011 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Pat Shurmur Roster / Stats
                        2010 5-11-0 3rd -- AFC North -- Eric Mangini Roster / Stats

                        2 hours of head scratching stuff I will never get back ?.. Am a firm believer, that most Head Coaches will get fired, but it also takes 15 other position coaches doing there jobs too..

                        Lets start with Mangini's past staff.. 10 are still coaching elsewhere..5 are out of the business..The Texans still have Mangini's ST & QB coaches on their staff. Bills have Brian Daboll as OC. Dallas has his RB coach, Jags have OL coach, How bout Rob Ryan? LB coach at Redskins, Matt Eberflus is DC at Colts & his former DB coach is coaching DB's at Atlanta..Eric's former WR coach is coaching at NC State..Steve Hagen his former TE coach will be in the XFL at Seattle..

                        2011-2012..Pat Shurmer inheriated most of Eric's staff in 2011. Six of Pat's hires (2 years here) are out of the business also..Pat's former hired QB coach is on TV now as the OC at Pitt, Mark Whipple..XFL LA Wildcats will have his WR/TE coach..Michigan St has his DE coach..Pat did hire us the one & only ST coach Chris Tabor, now still a Bear (barely).Pats former DB coach in Cleveland is at Eagles with a SB ring. Tim Hauck.. Pat's OC Brad Childress is a Bears Sr. Asst..

                        2013-Coach Chud... Out at Colts since 2017.. 10 of Chud's coaching hires our still in. While 7 are Out of business. Norv & Scott Turner are at Carolina. 49'ers have Chud's TE coach, coaching a very good TE at San Fran. Tenn. his OL asst. LAC have his OQCC..Chud got us Ray Horton too. Now the DB coach at Redskins. Ravens his DL coach, Eagles his LB coach. Tabor survives..

                        2014-15..Mike Pettine...What if Farmer never hit send on that text to Shanny? Guess we knew how this was going to end for Both.. Pettines hires, 11 are still in. While 9 are Out.(largest coaching staff) Dowell Loggains is the OC at Jets. Mike's WR coach is now the run game cord with Shanny at the 9'ers..TE coach at Skins. OL Coach at Baylor. That damn Jim O'Neil? Oakland's DB coach. Mike's DL coach is at Texans.Mike's DB coach Arron Glenn is at Saints. Defilippo OC at Jags.. While his former DB coach, Jeff Hafley will now become the HC at Boston College..

                        Had to give it a rest after Pettine...Need-less to say, I thought the list Out* of Business would be Longer. Some demoted to smaller team coaching roles.Or maybe, it's a who ya know in that business that matters?.If ya need any coaches names? I got those too.. and BTW-- fuc* Ray Farmer 😛   

                        Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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                          One thing for sure.....

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                          @mjp28 said:

                          One thing for sure.....

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                          Not sure why, I guess it has to do with not fucking with tradition. You could tell me there’s a 99% chance of the same results  for another 20 years and I’d still root for these fuckers. 

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                            If anyone hasn't learned this by now ...We are fans of the most ridiculed, laughed at, embarrassing franchise in the history of pro sports bar none. How the fuck does that feel.

                            This year brought:

                            Projected playoff /Super Bowl contenders resorted to being the same old Browns.

                            Myles Garretts helmet swinging episode resulting in an indefinite suspension.

                            Reports of OBJ and Landry saying "come get me". Whether true or not doesn't matter.

                            Kitchens "Pittsburgh Started It" shirt.

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                            @gorka said:

                            If anyone hasn't learned this by now ...We are fans of the most ridiculed, laughed at, embarrassing franchise in the history of pro sports bar none. How the fuck does that feel.

                            This year brought:

                            Projected playoff /Super Bowl contenders resorted to being the same old Browns.

                            Myles Garretts helmet swinging episode resulting in an indefinite suspension.

                            Reports of OBJ and Landry saying "come get me". Whether true or not doesn't matter.

                            Kitchens "Pittsburgh Started It" shirt.

                            The pro sports version of the real housewives. 

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                              mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                              I've been a BROWNS die hard fan for over 60 years, no turning back now !

                              GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                I've been a BROWNS die hard fan for over 60 years, no turning back now !

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                                Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by Canton Mike
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                                @mjp28 said:

                                I've been a BROWNS die hard fan for over 60 years, no turning back now !

                                We oldtimers are "All In" for "All Time"!

                                Mike

                                IN DORSEY I TRUST
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                                  @gorka said:

                                  If anyone hasn't learned this by now ...We are fans of the most ridiculed, laughed at, embarrassing franchise in the history of pro sports bar none. How the fuck does that feel.

                                  Hard to argue, but I will:

                                  I think these franchises warrant ridicule, but don't get it because it's NOT Cleveland.....Sacramento Kings (KC-Omaha Kings, Cincinnati Royals), San Diego Padres, and the Detroit Lions. The Arizona Cardinals have had moderate success in the last 10 years only, with a Super Bowl appearance and one of the greatest of all time in Larry Fitzgerald (and Kurt Warner for a brief time), otherwise they'd be worse. 

                                  The Browns are akin to the Toronto Maple Leafs- both franchises have a huge fan base, and a history of(ancient) success. 

                                  It effing bites for sure. It's hard to be so lousy for so long in a salary cap era. 

                                  neversaydie.jpg

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                                  GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by
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                                  @bob806 said:

                                  Hard to argue, but I will:

                                  I think these franchises warrant ridicule, but don't get it because it's NOT Cleveland.....Sacramento Kings (KC-Omaha Kings, Cincinnati Royals), San Diego Padres, and the Detroit Lions. The Arizona Cardinals have had moderate success in the last 10 years only, with a Super Bowl appearance and one of the greatest of all time in Larry Fitzgerald (and Kurt Warner for a brief time), otherwise they'd be worse. 

                                  The Browns are akin to the Toronto Maple Leafs- both franchises have a huge fan base, and a history of(ancient) success. 

                                  It effing bites for sure. It's hard to be so lousy for so long in a salary cap era. 

                                  Perennial losers is one thing...but I'm talking about the "extras", as in the examples I gave..."the shirt", the Myles Garret incident.

                                  Whether by their own fault or just a lotta bad luck. A couple strictly on the fans.

                                  Geez where do I start??

                                  We had a tight end doing motorcycle stunts in a parking lot wrecking his knee.

                                  We had a GM get suspended for texting to the coaches during a game.

                                  We had players namely Joe Jurivicious who sued the Browns after contracting a staph infection.

                                  We had sewage back up in a brand new stadium.

                                  The Johnny Manziel fiasco.

                                  The Josh Gordon fiasco.

                                  We had a player cost us a game because he threw his helmet on the field...Dwayne Rudd. Really?

                                  We had a coach who up and quit...Butch Davis.

                                  The seemingly endless hiring and firing of coaches and regime changes. Unheard of.

                                  No opening day wins since 99.

                                  B. Edwards cuts his foot because he was practicing barefoot...to which Romeo said "just kids being kids".

                                  Gerrard Warren arrested in enemy territory Pittsburgh while partying with Plaxico Burress.

                                  A Pittsburgh Squeeler put his hands on one of our own.. a drunken Browns fan and slammed him to the turf for all to see. That got to me, I don't care if he was drunk.

                                  His name escapes me, but a Browns DT was arrested for taking a gun to the airport.

                                  People laugh at us for becoming champs after we leave Cleveland.

                                  Braylon Edwards goes to OSU game instead of being with the Browns.

                                  Peyton Hillis and strepgate.

                                  Orlando Brown gets his eye shot out by a refs flag... could only happen to a Cleveland Brown.

                                  Bottlegate.

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                                  That's all that comes to mind right now, I don't have all day.

                                  Really people what the fuck is happening here!?!? Why us?  So what will it be next year I wonder..

                                  Someone could write a book on this, and that isn't hyperbole.

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                                    ^  plus

                                    Coleman, Corbett, Gilbert, Kizer, Erving, Mingo  How can anyone pick so many losers with so many high draft picks?

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                                      ^  plus

                                      Coleman, Corbett, Gilbert, Kizer, Erving, Mingo  How can anyone pick so many losers with so many high draft picks?

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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      ^  plus

                                      Coleman, Corbett, Gilbert, Kizer, Erving, Mingo  How can anyone pick so many losers with so many high draft picks?

                                      You or I could have done better by just looking at the Mock Draft compilations.

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                                        Maybe we need a larger sample size.

                                        Stats
                                        2009 5-11-0 4th -- AFC North -- Eric Mangini Roster / Stats
                                        2008 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
                                        2007 10-6-0 2nd -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
                                        2006 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
                                        2005 6-10-0 T3rd -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
                                        2004 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Butch Davis,
                                        Terry Robiskie
                                        Roster / Stats
                                        2003 5-11-0 4th -- AFC North -- Butch Davis Roster / Stats
                                        2002 9-7-0 2nd -- AFC North 0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs Butch Davis Roster / Stats
                                        2001 7-9-0 T3rd -- AFC Central -- Butch Davis Roster / Stats
                                        2000 3-13-0 6th -- AFC Central -- Chris Palmer Roster / Stats
                                        1999 2-14-0 6th -- AFC Central -- Chris Palmer Roster / Stats
                                        1995 5-11-0 4th -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
                                        1994 11-5-0 2nd -- AFC Central 1-1 - Lost Divisional Playoffs Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
                                        1993 7-9-0 3rd -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
                                        1992 7-9-0 3rd -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
                                        1991 6-10-0 3rd -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
                                        1990 3-13-0 4th -- AFC Central -- Bud Carson,
                                        Jim Shofner
                                        Roster / Stats
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                                        @mjp28 said:

                                        Maybe we need a larger sample size.

                                        Stats
                                        2009 5-11-0 4th -- AFC North -- Eric Mangini Roster / Stats
                                        2008 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
                                        2007 10-6-0 2nd -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
                                        2006 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
                                        2005 6-10-0 T3rd -- AFC North -- Romeo Crennel Roster / Stats
                                        2004 4-12-0 4th -- AFC North -- Butch Davis,
                                        Terry Robiskie
                                        Roster / Stats
                                        2003 5-11-0 4th -- AFC North -- Butch Davis Roster / Stats
                                        2002 9-7-0 2nd -- AFC North 0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs Butch Davis Roster / Stats
                                        2001 7-9-0 T3rd -- AFC Central -- Butch Davis Roster / Stats
                                        2000 3-13-0 6th -- AFC Central -- Chris Palmer Roster / Stats
                                        1999 2-14-0 6th -- AFC Central -- Chris Palmer Roster / Stats
                                        1995 5-11-0 4th -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
                                        1994 11-5-0 2nd -- AFC Central 1-1 - Lost Divisional Playoffs Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
                                        1993 7-9-0 3rd -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
                                        1992 7-9-0 3rd -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
                                        1991 6-10-0 3rd -- AFC Central -- Bill Belichick Roster / Stats
                                        1990 3-13-0 4th -- AFC Central -- Bud Carson,
                                        Jim Shofner
                                        Roster / Stats

                                        pretty damn pathetic......

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                                          @gorka said:

                                          If anyone hasn't learned this by now ...We are fans of the most ridiculed, laughed at, embarrassing franchise in the history of pro sports bar none. How the fuck does that feel.

                                          Hard to argue, but I will:

                                          I think these franchises warrant ridicule, but don't get it because it's NOT Cleveland.....Sacramento Kings (KC-Omaha Kings, Cincinnati Royals), San Diego Padres, and the Detroit Lions. The Arizona Cardinals have had moderate success in the last 10 years only, with a Super Bowl appearance and one of the greatest of all time in Larry Fitzgerald (and Kurt Warner for a brief time), otherwise they'd be worse. 

                                          The Browns are akin to the Toronto Maple Leafs- both franchises have a huge fan base, and a history of(ancient) success. 

                                          It effing bites for sure. It's hard to be so lousy for so long in a salary cap era. 

                                          neversaydie.jpg

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                                          @bob806 said:

                                          Hard to argue, but I will:

                                          I think these franchises warrant ridicule, but don't get it because it's NOT Cleveland.....Sacramento Kings (KC-Omaha Kings, Cincinnati Royals), San Diego Padres, and the Detroit Lions. The Arizona Cardinals have had moderate success in the last 10 years only, with a Super Bowl appearance and one of the greatest of all time in Larry Fitzgerald (and Kurt Warner for a brief time), otherwise they'd be worse. 

                                          The Browns are akin to the Toronto Maple Leafs- both franchises have a huge fan base, and a history of(ancient) success. 

                                          It effing bites for sure. It's hard to be so lousy for so long in a salary cap era. 

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                                          the only other franchise i see that may be equal to our piece of shit team are the new york knicks........they might be worse....

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