Week 17: Browns at Bengals

browns52

@mld-woody said:

Screw it. Get us a better pick and most importantly, get Freddie FIRED

He's a train wreck of a coach and isn't going to get any better. Make Dorseys decision easy and lose today.

I know it'll suck to go out with a loss, but it's the best outcome for our long term future.

Anyone with me on this?

bengals smacked the everlovin shit out of the fucking creampuff clowns.....yeah......

browns52

@stillmotion said:

You play to win the game

go tell that to fatass freddie....pfffft...play to win...yeah right...this team is a bunch of creampuffs...

browns52

@mjp28 said:

Ghoolie? Nah.

hate to tell ya man....he fucking blows.....hopefully the next regime will somehow get rid of this pos.....and take his progressive ads with him....they suck also as an insurance company

Bob806

@jbluhm86 said:

The kid set the rookie season TD record in less than a full season last year, so calling him trash is a stretch. Bad coaching, coupled with a shoddy o line makes for a long season for any QB.

I wanted Josh Allen, but I do think Mayfield is a decent QB. I think he's always going to take chances, and throw picks.

I do hope he learns to quit answering every question asked to him at these press conferences. Relax Baker, and quit being cocky, Cleveland fans don't care for that.

browns52

@jbluhm86 said:

The kid set the rookie season TD record in less than a full season last year, so calling him trash is a stretch. Bad coaching, coupled with a shoddy o line makes for a long season for any QB.

he is an undiscipined qb to say the least.....he is a gunslinger....good luck with that....

ATOM

@sdbacker80 said:

http://www.tankathon.com/nfl

depending on Arizona and Denver we are probably looking at 10. Maybe 11. Outside shot at 9.

Arizona if they win today will have a better record than the Browns

manbearpig

So... I don't think firing Kitchens gets us anywhere. I agree he's horrible but is there a chance he can get better in the offseason? Would an OC help? I mean who in their right mind would want to coach this team at this point?

ATOM

@ibleedbrown said:

And can l get one fake punt? I been waiting all year to see that.

honestly how many years has it been since we tried one of those

ATOM

@manbearpig said:

So... I don't think firing Kitchens gets us anywhere. I agree he's horrible but is there a chance he can get better in the offseason? Would an OC help? I mean who in their right mind would want to coach this team at this point?

WTF there is more talent on this roster than alot of other teams So yeah the job is a good one for the right coach

manbearpig

@atom said:

WTF there is more talent on this roster than alot of other teams So yeah the job is a good one for the right coach

I doubt many coches want to come to Cleveland. Not with their record of fired coaches...

ATOM

@manbearpig said:

I doubt many coches want to come to Cleveland. Not with their record of fired coaches...

there are only 32 of those jobs we still have players on their rookie contracts and as i said the talent is there I do not believe they will have a hard time finding a new coach

The Gipper

@atom said:

honestly how many years has it been since we tried one of those

manbearpig

Well we're looking for a BETTER coach. I've seen worse seasons and Browns teams. If there is any hope for this guy (which I pretty much doubt.) Is it possible? If so how? And who would you hire Atom? (assuming they would come here) Also if fired do we owe Kitchens anything? I never heard or cared much about his hiring other than to to think "why in the fuck didn't we make last years dude the HC?"

ATOM

@the-gipper said:

doesnt work also its hard to tell but arnt those are old uni's

The Gipper

@atom said:

doesnt work also its hard to tell but arnt those are old uni's

Worked for me.

And yes....can we just go back to those.

ATOM

@manbearpig said:

Well we're looking for a BETTER coach. I've seen worse seasons and Browns teams. If there is any hope for this guy (which I pretty much doubt.) Is it possible? If so how? And who would you hire Atom? (assuming they would come here) Also if fired do we owe Kitchens anything? I never heard or cared much about his hiring other than to to think "why in the fuck didn't we make last years dude the HC?"

we should have stayed with williams that or ariens he wanted the job and is doing a better job with less talent in tampa

ATOM

@the-gipper said:

Worked for me.

And yes....can we just go back to those.

almost ten years Damn i knew it had been awhile but not that long

mjp28

@mjp28 said:

The only thing that I was concerned about.....WTF ?

RUSHING

Player CAR YDS TD AVG
Nick Chubb 13 41 0 3.2
Baker Mayfield 4 29 0 7.3
Kareem Hunt 3 4 0 1.3

And on today's embarrassing loss to formerly one loss Cinci how did Mixon far outrush Chubb in this game? Cinci with their lousy rushing defense? The brain trust on the BROWNS needs some major work.

RUSHING

Player	CAR	YDS	TD	AVG
Joe Mixon	26	162	2	6.2
Andy Dalton	8	10	1	1.3
Alex Erickson	1	5	0	5
Giovani Bernard	3	4	0	1.3
John Ross	1	-2	0	-2

manbearpig

@mjp28 said:

And on today's embarrassing loss to formerly one loss Cinci how did Mixon far outrush Chubb in this game? Cinci with their lousy rushing defense? The brain trust on the BROWNS needs some major work.

RUSHING

Player CAR YDS TD AVG
Joe Mixon 26 162 2 6.2
Andy Dalton 8 10 1 1.3
Alex Erickson 1 5 0 5
Giovani Bernard 3 4 0 1.3
John Ross 1 -2 0 -2

Boggles the mind. I'm assuming like some others have suggested. The team quit on a shitty coach. Is there a place where I can find Freedies salary and contract? Obviously I'm not a football guru.