Week 17: Browns at Bengals

browns52

@jbluhm86 said:

The kid set the rookie season TD record in less than a full season last year, so calling him trash is a stretch. Bad coaching, coupled with a shoddy o line makes for a long season for any QB.

he is an undiscipined qb to say the least.....he is a gunslinger....good luck with that....

ATOM

@sdbacker80 said:

http://www.tankathon.com/nfl

depending on Arizona and Denver we are probably looking at 10. Maybe 11. Outside shot at 9.

Arizona if they win today will have a better record than the Browns

manbearpig

So... I don't think firing Kitchens gets us anywhere. I agree he's horrible but is there a chance he can get better in the offseason? Would an OC help? I mean who in their right mind would want to coach this team at this point?

ATOM

@ibleedbrown said:

And can l get one fake punt? I been waiting all year to see that.

honestly how many years has it been since we tried one of those

ATOM

@manbearpig said:

So... I don't think firing Kitchens gets us anywhere. I agree he's horrible but is there a chance he can get better in the offseason? Would an OC help? I mean who in their right mind would want to coach this team at this point?

WTF there is more talent on this roster than alot of other teams So yeah the job is a good one for the right coach

manbearpig

@atom said:

WTF there is more talent on this roster than alot of other teams So yeah the job is a good one for the right coach

I doubt many coches want to come to Cleveland. Not with their record of fired coaches...

ATOM

@manbearpig said:

I doubt many coches want to come to Cleveland. Not with their record of fired coaches...

there are only 32 of those jobs we still have players on their rookie contracts and as i said the talent is there I do not believe they will have a hard time finding a new coach

The Gipper

@atom said:

honestly how many years has it been since we tried one of those

manbearpig

Well we're looking for a BETTER coach. I've seen worse seasons and Browns teams. If there is any hope for this guy (which I pretty much doubt.) Is it possible? If so how? And who would you hire Atom? (assuming they would come here) Also if fired do we owe Kitchens anything? I never heard or cared much about his hiring other than to to think "why in the fuck didn't we make last years dude the HC?"

ATOM

@the-gipper said:

doesnt work also its hard to tell but arnt those are old uni's

The Gipper

@atom said:

doesnt work also its hard to tell but arnt those are old uni's

Worked for me.

And yes....can we just go back to those.

ATOM

@manbearpig said:

Well we're looking for a BETTER coach. I've seen worse seasons and Browns teams. If there is any hope for this guy (which I pretty much doubt.) Is it possible? If so how? And who would you hire Atom? (assuming they would come here) Also if fired do we owe Kitchens anything? I never heard or cared much about his hiring other than to to think "why in the fuck didn't we make last years dude the HC?"

we should have stayed with williams that or ariens he wanted the job and is doing a better job with less talent in tampa

ATOM

@the-gipper said:

Worked for me.

And yes....can we just go back to those.

almost ten years Damn i knew it had been awhile but not that long

mjp28

@mjp28 said:

The only thing that I was concerned about.....WTF ?

RUSHING

Player CAR YDS TD AVG
Nick Chubb 13 41 0 3.2
Baker Mayfield 4 29 0 7.3
Kareem Hunt 3 4 0 1.3

And on today's embarrassing loss to formerly one loss Cinci how did Mixon far outrush Chubb in this game? Cinci with their lousy rushing defense? The brain trust on the BROWNS needs some major work.

RUSHING

Player	CAR	YDS	TD	AVG
Joe Mixon	26	162	2	6.2
Andy Dalton	8	10	1	1.3
Alex Erickson	1	5	0	5
Giovani Bernard	3	4	0	1.3
John Ross	1	-2	0	-2

manbearpig

@mjp28 said:

And on today's embarrassing loss to formerly one loss Cinci how did Mixon far outrush Chubb in this game? Cinci with their lousy rushing defense? The brain trust on the BROWNS needs some major work.

RUSHING

Player CAR YDS TD AVG
Joe Mixon 26 162 2 6.2
Andy Dalton 8 10 1 1.3
Alex Erickson 1 5 0 5
Giovani Bernard 3 4 0 1.3
John Ross 1 -2 0 -2

Boggles the mind. I'm assuming like some others have suggested. The team quit on a shitty coach. Is there a place where I can find Freedies salary and contract? Obviously I'm not a football guru.

SdBacker80

@the-gipper said:

Maybe even 8....if Jax wins.

This is where we are now as a fan base. Fire the coach....get a higher draft pick.

I think Jax owns the tiebreaker should we have the same record

Icecube

@atom said:

WTF there is more talent on this roster than alot of other teams So yeah the job is a good one for the right coach

Unless upper mng. is knee jerk and meddling. Then the talent level is negated and it's a bad job.

mjp28

@manbearpig said:

Boggles the mind. I'm assuming like some others have suggested. The team quit on a shitty coach. Is there a place where I can find Freedies salary and contract? Obviously I'm not a football guru.

HENRY VERY CLOSE TO RUSHING TITLE.

mjp28

HENRY WINS RUSHING TITLE.

Chubb second.

Canton Mike

@mjp28 said:

HENRY WINS RUSHING TITLE.

Chubb second.

I just saw that.

It probably bothers us more than it does Chubb.

Mike