HC/GM/Position Coach tracker
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we got those Gip^^(interviewed*) moving on to ThesE^^
I didn't see where you said either not interviewed or not scheduled for interview.
But I will say....I am not really bothered by the thoroughness of this. It seems to me like the Redskins, Cowboys, Giants, Panthers did almost no due diligence, and hired the first or second person they talked to.
Expecially now that the Browns are the only game in town with anyone aspiring to be a HC next year.
Unless Atlanta finally decides to dump their coach...which we thought would happen, but has not.
But I guess both he and Dmitroff are staying (must not have seen this announcement):
https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/12/27/falcons-dan-quinn-thomas-dimitroff-job-status-update
By the way.....Dimitroff is another Barberton guy. But he spent a lot of time in Canada where his dad was HC of both the Ottawa Roughriders and Hamilton Tiger-Cats.
It seems to me like the Redskins, Cowboys, Giants, Panthers did almost no due diligence, and hired the first or second person they talked to.
Fits only in Washington & Dallas.. Riverboat was a Rooney rule hire in Washington.1st interviewed..Dallas, 1)Marvin Lewis 2) McCarthy... in. out. day & half
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It seems to me like the Redskins, Cowboys, Giants, Panthers did almost no due diligence, and hired the first or second person they talked to.
Fits only in Washington & Dallas.. Riverboat was a Rooney rule hire in Washington.1st interviewed..Dallas, 1)Marvin Lewis 2) McCarthy... in. out. day & half
Fits only in Washington & Dallas.. Riverboat was a Rooney rule hire in Washington...Dallas, 1)Marvin Lewis 2) McCarthy... in. out. day & half
Lewis was the Rooney Rule interview. I don't think Rivera was hired just to satisfy the Rooney rule. He is a proven commodity. I am not questioning the fact that they interviewed him and only him (as hiring him satisfied the Rooney rule).
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...and maybe more.
we got those Gip^^(interviewed*) moving on to ThesE^^
we got those Gip^^(interviewed*) moving on to ThesE^^
Nope, not happening. Browns saying the HC by Saturday. Not enough time to interview the outliers.
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Fits only in Washington & Dallas.. Riverboat was a Rooney rule hire in Washington...Dallas, 1)Marvin Lewis 2) McCarthy... in. out. day & half
Lewis was the Rooney Rule interview. I don't think Rivera was hired just to satisfy the Rooney rule. He is a proven commodity. I am not questioning the fact that they interviewed him and only him (as hiring him satisfied the Rooney rule).
Lewis was the Rooney Rule interview. I don't think Rivera was hired just to satisfy the Rooney rule. He is a proven commodity. I am not questioning the fact that they interviewed him and only him (as hiring him satisfied the Rooney rule).
Ron was a good pick, but, Skins are just a bad organization. I hope he's successful but odds are against him. Name a coach who did well in the Dan era.
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Nope, not happening. Browns saying the HC by Saturday. Not enough time to interview the outliers.
I'd like to believe this H, but unless McDaniels is already announced? Stepanski can't be announced until Saturday after his game..Heck the Prez of Vikings football might even fire Mike Zimmer right after his post game presser
.. We can only beat ourselves.. Call it Off Sunday...presser him up Monday?..OR --- It will be a classic media bonanza that Jimmy holds the remote.. Than still calls McDaniel's? (opps Saleh? ?)
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Lincoln Riley enters the mix.....per ESPN this morning.
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Ohio high school football coach jumps to the pros? Yes it happened! https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/07/dolphins-hire-assistant-coach-from-high-school-ranks
The Dolphins have reached into the high school ranks for their latest hire, but coach Brian Flores isn’t straying far from his Patriots roots in doing so.
According to Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald, the Dolphins are hiring Curt Kuntz as a defensive backs coach.
Kuntz has no NFL experience, and has spent the last seven years at Struthers High School in Ohio.
That might not seem like a link to an NFL future, but that school occupies a special place. It’s the alma mater of Steve Belichick, the father of Patriots coach Bill Belichick. The school recently built a new athletics facility, called the Steve Belichick Complex, and Bill Belichick turned up on the Patriots’ team website wearing Struthers gear.
The Dolphins fired safeties coach Tony Oden after the season, and Kuntz is expected to worth with Josh Boyer, Miami’s cornerbacks coach and defensive passing game
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Lincoln Riley enters the mix.....per ESPN this morning.
Lincoln Riley enters the mix.....per ESPN this morning.
That goes against Jimmy's comment that he wants someone with NFL experience.
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Also....this was proposed by Peter King: A new rule that NO HC candidates can be interviewed for any team until after the Super Bowl.
He says the current situation favors candidates who do not coach for teams still in the playoffs. And I guess that is a fair statement. McCarthy...out of coaching a year. Rivera...fired mid season. Rhule...a college coach whose season is over. Judge....his team out of the playoffs now.
ONLY the Browns are still in the process of interviewing coaches whose teams are still in it: Stefanski, Bienemy, Roman, Saleh. King says that the guys who coach for teams still playing are at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to being hired. And, he says that particularly applies to Minority candidates. NFL owners tend to be conservative, but waiting until after the SB for any team to conduct interviews would even the playing field...for both guys whose teams are still active and for minorities.
Note: the talk this morning is that no "minority" coach has yet been hired.....but, to be honest, this claim is bogus. They are only referring to black coaches....but Rivera is certainly a minority as an Hispanic. And would they also not consider Saleh a "minority" because he is of (apparently) Middle Eastern/Arabic descent rather than black?
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Nope, not happening. Browns saying the HC by Saturday. Not enough time to interview the outliers.
I guess my question is: why the major rush? It is not like they are now in competition with any other team now that all the other vacancies have been filled. It is not like they need someone on board to get started in recruiting...as is the case with a college coach situation. It is not like they need the HC on hand to handle practices. Why the rush?
Honestly...I would wait to see what happens in NE. In a bizarre, but not impossible scenario that I related...there is another name that could come available: Bill Belichick. Yes, weird, wacky, bizarre....but there is a power struggle going on there in NE, and it is NOT a slam dunk that BB wins it.
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Maybe, if the Browns hire Josh...he will bring his Dad in as an asst. coach. (he would be an unofficial asst. coach in any case, fair to say?)
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Also....this was proposed by Peter King: A new rule that NO HC candidates can be interviewed for any team until after the Super Bowl.
He says the current situation favors candidates who do not coach for teams still in the playoffs. And I guess that is a fair statement. McCarthy...out of coaching a year. Rivera...fired mid season. Rhule...a college coach whose season is over. Judge....his team out of the playoffs now.
ONLY the Browns are still in the process of interviewing coaches whose teams are still in it: Stefanski, Bienemy, Roman, Saleh. King says that the guys who coach for teams still playing are at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to being hired. And, he says that particularly applies to Minority candidates. NFL owners tend to be conservative, but waiting until after the SB for any team to conduct interviews would even the playing field...for both guys whose teams are still active and for minorities.
Note: the talk this morning is that no "minority" coach has yet been hired.....but, to be honest, this claim is bogus. They are only referring to black coaches....but Rivera is certainly a minority as an Hispanic. And would they also not consider Saleh a "minority" because he is of (apparently) Middle Eastern/Arabic descent rather than black?
Also....this was proposed by Peter King: A new rule that NO HC candidates can be interviewed for any team until after the Super Bowl.
He says the current situation favors candidates who do not coach for teams still in the playoffs. And I guess that is a fair statement. McCarthy...out of coaching a year. Rivera...fired mid season. Rhule...a college coach whose season is over. Judge....his team out of the playoffs now.
ONLY the Browns are still in the process of interviewing coaches whose teams are still in it: Stefanski, Bienemy, Roman, Saleh. King says that the guys who coach for teams still playing are at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to being hired. And, he says that particularly applies to Minority candidates. NFL owners tend to be conservative, but waiting until after the SB for any team to conduct interviews would even the playing field...for both guys whose teams are still active and for minorities.
Note: the talk this morning is that no "minority" coach has yet been hired.....but, to be honest, this claim is bogus. They are only referring to black coaches....but Rivera is certainly a minority as an Hispanic. And would they also not consider Saleh a "minority" because he is of (apparently) Middle Eastern/Arabic descent rather than black?
Nah Pete. Your proposed rule would put teams searching for new coaches at an extreme disadvantage. Assuming that they weren't interested in someone involved in the playoffs. Say the Browns really want Saleh. They're probably going to have to wait until after the Super Bowl to hire him. The combine is just three weeks after. Not a lot of time to get organized. The Redskins in that scenario would have almost a month head start, as opposed to a week if we hire McDaniels. LOL, make it like college, where you can poach coaches before their Bowl games.
Regarding minority hires, Steven A Smith went on a tirade about that so over the top it was almost laughable. FYI Steve, the NFL isn't an affirmative action employer. The most qualified candidates get hired. So stop playing the race card.
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Another Saleh article... this one highlights a connection with Gary Kubiak. So those thinking of Kubiak for OC might have hope in this quarter as well...
https://dawgpounddaily.com/2020/01/07/cleveland-browns-robert-saleh-head-coach/
How is his health? That is why he retired as Broncos HC.
How is his health? That is why he retired as Broncos HC.
Wouldn't be much of a difference as currently. Maybe a bit, but he is coaching in Minnesota as of now.
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Also....this was proposed by Peter King: A new rule that NO HC candidates can be interviewed for any team until after the Super Bowl.
He says the current situation favors candidates who do not coach for teams still in the playoffs. And I guess that is a fair statement. McCarthy...out of coaching a year. Rivera...fired mid season. Rhule...a college coach whose season is over. Judge....his team out of the playoffs now.
ONLY the Browns are still in the process of interviewing coaches whose teams are still in it: Stefanski, Bienemy, Roman, Saleh. King says that the guys who coach for teams still playing are at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to being hired. And, he says that particularly applies to Minority candidates. NFL owners tend to be conservative, but waiting until after the SB for any team to conduct interviews would even the playing field...for both guys whose teams are still active and for minorities.
Note: the talk this morning is that no "minority" coach has yet been hired.....but, to be honest, this claim is bogus. They are only referring to black coaches....but Rivera is certainly a minority as an Hispanic. And would they also not consider Saleh a "minority" because he is of (apparently) Middle Eastern/Arabic descent rather than black?
Nah Pete. Your proposed rule would put teams searching for new coaches at an extreme disadvantage. Assuming that they weren't interested in someone involved in the playoffs. Say the Browns really want Saleh. They're probably going to have to wait until after the Super Bowl to hire him. The combine is just three weeks after. Not a lot of time to get organized. The Redskins in that scenario would have almost a month head start, as opposed to a week if we hire McDaniels. LOL, make it like college, where you can poach coaches before their Bowl games.
Regarding minority hires, Steven A Smith went on a tirade about that so over the top it was almost laughable. FYI Steve, the NFL isn't an affirmative action employer. The most qualified candidates get hired. So stop playing the race card.
Nah Pete. Your proposed rule would put teams searching for new coaches at an extreme disadvantage. Assuming that they weren't interested in someone involved in the playoffs. Say the Browns really want Saleh. They're probably going to have to wait until after the Super Bowl to hire him. The combine is just three weeks after. Not a lot of time to get organized. The Redskins in that scenario would have almost a month head start, as opposed to a week if we hire McDaniels. LOL, make it like college, where you can poach coaches before their Bowl games.
But he says his rule would NOT give the Redsking a month head start. NO ONE would be allowed to interview for a new coach, even if they did not make the playoffs.
Regarding minority hires, Steven A Smith went on a tirade about that so over the top it was almost laughable. FYI Steve, the NFL isn't an affirmative action employer. The most qualified candidates get hired. So stop playing the race card.
They decried that there were only currently 4 minority HCs in the NFL....but the fact is, that mirrors the general population. 4 out of 32 is 12.5%. The population of the US is about 12% black. If you add in Hispanic/Asian etc., yes...the minority percentage of the population does go way up.
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Nah Pete. Your proposed rule would put teams searching for new coaches at an extreme disadvantage. Assuming that they weren't interested in someone involved in the playoffs. Say the Browns really want Saleh. They're probably going to have to wait until after the Super Bowl to hire him. The combine is just three weeks after. Not a lot of time to get organized. The Redskins in that scenario would have almost a month head start, as opposed to a week if we hire McDaniels. LOL, make it like college, where you can poach coaches before their Bowl games.
But he says his rule would NOT give the Redsking a month head start. NO ONE would be allowed to interview for a new coach, even if they did not make the playoffs.
Regarding minority hires, Steven A Smith went on a tirade about that so over the top it was almost laughable. FYI Steve, the NFL isn't an affirmative action employer. The most qualified candidates get hired. So stop playing the race card.
They decried that there were only currently 4 minority HCs in the NFL....but the fact is, that mirrors the general population. 4 out of 32 is 12.5%. The population of the US is about 12% black. If you add in Hispanic/Asian etc., yes...the minority percentage of the population does go way up.
That's my point Tom. EVERY team looking for a new head coach would be at a serious disadvantage compared to the teams that weren't.
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I'm starting to think we don't want McDaniels and our coach will be somebody different. I mean, if we really wanted him, wouldn't we go out AND GET HIM?
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For what its worth:
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Seems like maybe Hispanics and Asians have more of a beef than Blacks do over the coach thing. Only Rivera is Hispanic.
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That's my point Tom. EVERY team looking for a new head coach would be at a serious disadvantage compared to the teams that weren't.
That's my point Tom. EVERY team looking for a new head coach would be at a serious disadvantage compared to the teams that weren't.
I guess I can see that, but...isn't it that way for every team that fires its HC no matter when a team begins it search for a new HC?
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I'm starting to think we don't want McDaniels and our coach will be somebody different. I mean, if we really wanted him, wouldn't we go out AND GET HIM?
I'm starting to think we don't want McDaniels and our coach will be somebody different. I mean, if we really wanted him, wouldn't we go out AND GET HIM?
Look at who we are dealing with at who is conducting the search. They may not really have a clue what they want to do...so they are shotgunning the process. There may also be the the long running riff......who Haslam wants in his heart, vs. what his people (Depo) are telling him what he should have.
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I guess I can see that, but...isn't it that way for every team that fires its HC no matter when a team begins it search for a new HC?
True, but the earlier you start the less of a disadvantage it is. It also (as I've said) gives you first shot at the best assistants.
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