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  • That said... teams who did not make the playoffs should get get the jump on HC and staff selection... same as they get earlier picks in the Draft.

    King's point was likely more about the candidates whose teams are still in the playoffs not getting a fair chance to get the new jobs than it was about the teams getting a head start. They would be the ones at a disadvantage.    In a sense, at least, that is true so far this year....The only guy hired so far that had an NFL job at the end of the season was Joe Judge, and his team had just been put out of the playoffs, and Boom....he gets the Giants gig, out of nowhere seemingly.

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  • @hoorta said:

    Nah Pete. Your proposed  rule would  put teams searching for  new coaches at an extreme  disadvantage.  Assuming that  they  weren't  interested in someone involved  in the playoffs.  Say the Browns really want  Saleh. They're probably  going to have  to wait until after the  Super Bowl to hire  him. The combine is just  three  weeks after.  Not a lot of  time to get  organized.

    Combine prep is more the purview of GMs and Scouts than HCs and their staff.

    That said... teams who did not make the playoffs should get get the jump on HC and staff selection... same as they get earlier picks in the Draft.

    @orion said:

    ...not a MAJOR rush, but you'd want to hire coordinators and assistants before all of the good ones are snatched away from you.

    We're blessed to have so few HC openings this go 'round, but even in normal times the weight of getting the HC right is so much greater than having a deeper staff pool. And that pool is huge when you look in the college ranks as well as NFL retreads.

    Most of the candidates know the key staffers they'd want... and have likely chatted with them about "hypothetical opportunities". Hell... they are asked about what their staffs might look like in the interview process.

    Then add that staff turnover of those that weren't ready for prime time is not uncommon... especially at the position coach level... and there's always time for course correction.

    @tour2ma said:

    Combine prep is more the purview of GMs and Scouts than HCs and their staff.

    i agree totally right here^^  maybe Haslam does trust Elliott Wolfe more than i thought? Wolfe is now a assistant GM to no one. Well rounded to be our draft/pro personal guy to bang heads with scouts than Gm's.. Alonzo Highsmith? not sure where this guy goes or is even still around? My guess Highsmith had big ties to Chad Thomas & Redwine being on the roster..The U is Highsmith's alum

  • @hoorta said:

    Nah Pete. Your proposed  rule would  put teams searching for  new coaches at an extreme  disadvantage.  Assuming that  they  weren't  interested in someone involved  in the playoffs.  Say the Browns really want  Saleh. They're probably  going to have  to wait until after the  Super Bowl to hire  him. The combine is just  three  weeks after.  Not a lot of  time to get  organized.

    Combine prep is more the purview of GMs and Scouts than HCs and their staff.

    That said... teams who did not make the playoffs should get get the jump on HC and staff selection... same as they get earlier picks in the Draft.

    @orion said:

    ...not a MAJOR rush, but you'd want to hire coordinators and assistants before all of the good ones are snatched away from you.

    We're blessed to have so few HC openings this go 'round, but even in normal times the weight of getting the HC right is so much greater than having a deeper staff pool. And that pool is huge when you look in the college ranks as well as NFL retreads.

    Most of the candidates know the key staffers they'd want... and have likely chatted with them about "hypothetical opportunities". Hell... they are asked about what their staffs might look like in the interview process.

    Then add that staff turnover of those that weren't ready for prime time is not uncommon... especially at the position coach level... and there's always time for course correction.

    @tour2ma said:

    Combine prep is more the purview of GMs and Scouts than HCs and their staff.

    That said... teams who did not make the playoffs should get get the jump on HC and staff selection... same as they get earlier picks in the Draft.

    🙂 but we don't have a GM yet Tour- at least one with the title. They had better keep Wolf around for that purpose, at least until after the draft. And the new HC had better be on board with whatever the scouting staff has in their reports.. The combine is at least 6 weeks away- but the grunts have been doing groundwork for months.... 

  • Updated post #2 as Jim Schwartz confirmed interviewed...The Hiring Crew, flies to Minnesota to interview Kevin Stefanski Thursday... Starting to see some coaching Staff fillings..Here's some noted guys off the market...

    Skins- DC- Jack Delrio//Ken Zampese QB coach///Scott Turner OC  

    Dallas-DL Coach- Jim Tomsula

  • @tour2ma said:

    Combine prep is more the purview of GMs and Scouts than HCs and their staff.

    That said... teams who did not make the playoffs should get get the jump on HC and staff selection... same as they get earlier picks in the Draft.

    🙂 but we don't have a GM yet Tour- at least one with the title. They had better keep Wolf around for that purpose, at least until after the draft. And the new HC had better be on board with whatever the scouting staff has in their reports.. The combine is at least 6 weeks away- but the grunts have been doing groundwork for months.... 

    @hoorta said:

    🙂 but we don't have a GM yet Tour- at least one with the title. They had better keep Wolf around for that purpose, at least until after the draft.

    And the new HC had better be on board with whatever the scouting staff has in their reports..

    Why? I'd be shocked if the average Coordinator or position coach had any more of a well-founded notion as to who they'd want to draft at a given position than you or I. These guys have FULL time jobs, h... up to 80 hours a week full. I doubt they watch more than a single College game a week... and then likely their alma mater's.

    GM... schme-em... We have plenty of organized scouting (see below) plus a dozen or so assistant scouts...

    Mike Cetta Director, Scouting

    Steve Malin Director, College Scouting

    Dan Saganey Director, Pro Scouting

    Glenn Cook Assistant Director, Scouting

    Jimmy Noel Assistant Director, Pro Scouting

    Adam Al-Khayyal Scout

    Zach Ayers Scout

    Colton Chapple Scout

    Sam DeLuca Scout

    Matt Donahoe Scout

    Gerald McCully Scout

    Max Paulus Scout

  • A couple interesting stats regarding Jim Schwartz while DC in Philly:

    In his 4 years as Eagles DC in regular season/playoffs:

    16.1 points/game at home- FEWEST in NFL

    20.4 points/game - 5th fewest in NFL

     Jim Schwartz, third down rankings:

    2019: 5

    2018: 8

    2017: 3

    Jim Schwartz's defenses have allowed over 30 points just 8 times since 2016. That is in 70 games.

  • A couple interesting stats regarding Jim Schwartz while DC in Philly:

    In his 4 years as Eagles DC in regular season/playoffs:

    16.1 points/game at home- FEWEST in NFL

    20.4 points/game - 5th fewest in NFL

     Jim Schwartz, third down rankings:

    2019: 5

    2018: 8

    2017: 3

    Jim Schwartz's defenses have allowed over 30 points just 8 times since 2016. That is in 70 games.

    @adoug319 said:

    A couple interesting stats regarding Jim Schwartz while DC in Philly:

    In his 4 years as Eagles DC in regular season/playoffs:

    16.1 points/game at home- FEWEST in NFL

    20.4 points/game - 5th fewest in NFL

     Jim Schwartz, third down rankings:

    2019: 5

    2018: 8

    2017: 3

    Jim Schwartz's defenses have allowed over 30 points just 8 times since 2016. That is in 70 games.

    I have no problems with the Swartz the DC, I wish we had him as DC. I have some concerns with Swartz the HC... 

  • Jim Schwartz would be cool. We could rattle off lines from Spaceballs. It’ll be fun!

  • @adoug319 said:

    A couple interesting stats regarding Jim Schwartz while DC in Philly:

    In his 4 years as Eagles DC in regular season/playoffs:

    16.1 points/game at home- FEWEST in NFL

    20.4 points/game - 5th fewest in NFL

     Jim Schwartz, third down rankings:

    2019: 5

    2018: 8

    2017: 3

    Jim Schwartz's defenses have allowed over 30 points just 8 times since 2016. That is in 70 games.

    I have no problems with the Swartz the DC, I wish we had him as DC. I have some concerns with Swartz the HC... 

    @nero said:

    I have no problems with the Swartz the DC, I wish we had him as DC. I have some concerns with Swartz the HC... 

    Spanglish is okay.

  • Why didnt Kubiak get an interview? Is he not interested in a head coaching position because he is obviously the best coach out there.

    With that said Schwartz is easily my 2nd favorite candidate. I really dont care for the list of guys we brought in for interviews 

  • A couple interesting stats regarding Jim Schwartz while DC in Philly:

    In his 4 years as Eagles DC in regular season/playoffs:

    16.1 points/game at home- FEWEST in NFL

    20.4 points/game - 5th fewest in NFL

     Jim Schwartz, third down rankings:

    2019: 5

    2018: 8

    2017: 3

    Jim Schwartz's defenses have allowed over 30 points just 8 times since 2016. That is in 70 games.

    @adoug319 said:

    A couple interesting stats regarding Jim Schwartz while DC in Philly:

    In his 4 years as Eagles DC in regular season/playoffs:

    16.1 points/game at home- FEWEST in NFL

    20.4 points/game - 5th fewest in NFL

     Jim Schwartz, third down rankings:

    2019: 5

    2018: 8

    2017: 3

    Jim Schwartz's defenses have allowed over 30 points just 8 times since 2016. That is in 70 games.

    How many times just this past season did the Browns defense give up 30 points?    Let me check......  I see that it was  6 times....including each of the last 3 games. 

  • Jim Schwartz would be cool. We could rattle off lines from Spaceballs. It’ll be fun!

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Jim Schwartz would be cool. We could rattle off lines from Spaceballs. It’ll be fun!

    All of them left over from when we had Mitch Schwartz  here. 

  • Jim Schwartz would be cool. We could rattle off lines from Spaceballs. It’ll be fun!

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Jim Schwartz would be cool. We could rattle off lines from Spaceballs. It’ll be fun!

    LOL, "May the Schwartz be with you".  That was  one funny  movie. 

  • @adoug319 said:

    A couple interesting stats regarding Jim Schwartz while DC in Philly:

    In his 4 years as Eagles DC in regular season/playoffs:

    16.1 points/game at home- FEWEST in NFL

    20.4 points/game - 5th fewest in NFL

     Jim Schwartz, third down rankings:

    2019: 5

    2018: 8

    2017: 3

    Jim Schwartz's defenses have allowed over 30 points just 8 times since 2016. That is in 70 games.

    I have no problems with the Swartz the DC, I wish we had him as DC. I have some concerns with Swartz the HC... 

    @nero said:

    English is not my first language, stop asking me why do I edit my posts

    We just wish it was your third language... 😉

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Jim Schwartz would be cool. We could rattle off lines from Spaceballs. It’ll be fun!

    LOL, "May the Schwartz be with you".  That was  one funny  movie. 

    @hoorta said:

    LOL, "May the Schwartz be with you".  That was  one funny  movie. 

    And at some point he’s bound to be caught in a photo with a guy who shares his last name. I can see the meme now.

    ”And l see your Schwartz is as big as mine...”

  • @nero said:

    English is not my first language, stop asking me why do I edit my posts

    We just wish it was your third language... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    We just wish it was your third language... 😉

    Until some years ago... It was. Now I think my English is better than my Basque. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    We just wish it was your third language... 😉

    Until some years ago... It was. Now I think my English is better than my Basque. 

    @nero said:

    Until some years ago... It was. Now I think my English is better than my Basque. 

    Your English is good. Don’t let anyone tell you different. It’s a living language that changes like any other living language. Understanding is all that matters.

    Off topic alert, but one of the most interesting classes l ever took at school was the history of the English language.

    Way back when, like BC, England was run by the Celts. Then the Romans came and kicked their asses and took over. Then the Germanic tribes came and kicked the Romans’ asses and took over. Then the French Normans came over and kicked asses snd took over. And then the Anglo Saxons kicked their asses and took over. 

    I might have the order mixed up, and may have left some conquests out, but basically England was occupied by people of varying cultural backgrounds for hundred plus year stretches at a time within the last 2000 years, and modern day English has become a bastardization of Latin, German, French and Greek, plus over 1000 years of tweaking since then.

    Once you conquer a country, there’s nothing left to do other that live and breed, so intermingling of people and languages happens. 

    That’s why the smart kids in the spelling bee ask the origin of the word. Because it matters in spelling and pronunciation. 

    Whereas Spanish is basically a direct descendent of Latin. Easier to learn. Vowels for the most part consistently sound the same way.  

    Also, l like Saleh. He’s my dude. Team Saleh!

  • @tour2ma said:

    We just wish it was your third language... 😉

    Until some years ago... It was. Now I think my English is better than my Basque. 

    @nero said:

    Until some years ago... It was. Now I think my English is better than my Basque. 

    lol...

    Meanwhile back at the thread...

    Anyone else listening to Joe Judge's intro presser? Damned impressive...

  • @nero said:

    Until some years ago... It was. Now I think my English is better than my Basque. 

    Your English is good. Don’t let anyone tell you different. It’s a living language that changes like any other living language. Understanding is all that matters.

    Off topic alert, but one of the most interesting classes l ever took at school was the history of the English language.

    Way back when, like BC, England was run by the Celts. Then the Romans came and kicked their asses and took over. Then the Germanic tribes came and kicked the Romans’ asses and took over. Then the French Normans came over and kicked asses snd took over. And then the Anglo Saxons kicked their asses and took over. 

    I might have the order mixed up, and may have left some conquests out, but basically England was occupied by people of varying cultural backgrounds for hundred plus year stretches at a time within the last 2000 years, and modern day English has become a bastardization of Latin, German, French and Greek, plus over 1000 years of tweaking since then.

    Once you conquer a country, there’s nothing left to do other that live and breed, so intermingling of people and languages happens. 

    That’s why the smart kids in the spelling bee ask the origin of the word. Because it matters in spelling and pronunciation. 

    Whereas Spanish is basically a direct descendent of Latin. Easier to learn. Vowels for the most part consistently sound the same way.  

    Also, l like Saleh. He’s my dude. Team Saleh!

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Your English is good. Don’t let anyone tell you different. It’s a living language that changes like any other living language. Understanding is all that matters.

    Off topic alert, but one of the most interesting classes l ever took at school was the history of the English language.

    Way back when, like BC, England was run by the Celts. Then the Romans came and kicked their asses and took over. Then the Germanic tribes came and kicked the Romans’ asses and took over. Then the French Normans came over and kicked asses snd took over. And then the Anglo Saxons kicked their asses and took over. 

    Uhh, you got that mixed up some.   The Celts never "ran" England.....Celts are the Scots and Irish. The people there pre Rome were "Britons", not Celts.  Today the Britons, essentially are the Welsh .   After the Romans left Britain (I would not say their asses were kicked...they just left when Rome was deteriorating) , it was the Anglo-Saxons that invaded Britain (they were the Germanic tribes you speak of).  Then actually came the Danes/Norse who came close to conquering all of Britain (the 4 kingdoms: Wessex/Northumbria/East Anglia/Mercia).  They had the entirety of those kingdoms except for some swampland in Somerset...when King Alfred fought back...and his heirs took over and eventually England was form circa mid 900s.   Then in 1066 the Normans made their conquest.  But while the Normans did prevail....ultimately they became assimilated to the "English" ways.  There has been no "conquest" of Britain since 1066. (political/military...though American culture had made a conquest to a great extent....in the 20th century) 

    I might have the order mixed up, and may have left some conquests out, but basically England was occupied by people of varying cultural backgrounds for hundred plus year stretches at a time within the last 2000 years, and modern day English has become a bastardization of Latin, German, French and Greek, plus over 1000 years of tweaking since then.

    You got the order mixed up, see above, but I think you are pretty spot on regarding the language.

    Once you conquer a country, there’s nothing left to do other that live and breed, so intermingling of people and languages happens. 

    That’s why the smart kids in the spelling bee ask the origin of the word. Because it matters in spelling and pronunciation. 

    Yes and yes.

    Whereas Spanish is basically a direct descendent of Latin. Easier to learn. Vowels for the most part consistently sound the same way.  

    Also, l like Saleh. He’s my dude. Team Saleh!