McDaniels next coach possibly...
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Speaking of Josh is anybody slightly concerned that no other team even interviewed him? At least to my knowledge. And how much farther up the food chain is Stefanski from Freddy?
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Speaking of Josh is anybody slightly concerned that no other team even interviewed him? At least to my knowledge. And how much farther up the food chain is Stefanski from Freddy?
WSS
Speaking of Josh is anybody slightly concerned that no other team even interviewed him? At least to my knowledge.
And how much farther up the food chain is Stefanski from Freddy?
Yes... crossed my mind as well.
No... 'Ski hasn't been RB Coach since 2016!
... OK... now that you mention it...
Kidding above... that Depo saw a difference last year gives me comfort. He thought Stef was ready then and Freddie was not...
.... and I think we know now that Dorsey agreed albeit for completely different reasons chose the lesser candidate.
Then again there is the whole Polack thing... PARMA!
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Interesting notes on the Panthers' owners quick decision to sign Rhule despite McDaniels reportedly being his top choice.
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Report: Josh McDaniels preferred Browns job over Panthers and Giants openings
According to WEEI's Courtney Fallon, Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels entered the offseason with the Browns' opening as his top choiceĀAuthor: Ben AxelrodPublished: 9:38 PM EST January 8, 2020Updated: 9:53 PM EST January 8, 2020On Tuesday, the Carolina Panthers shocked the football world when they hired Baylor coach Matt Rhule despite having an interview scheduled for later in the day with Josh McDaniels.
According to WEEI's Courtney Fallon, there's a reason why the Panthers never got around to their meeting with the New England Patriots offensive coordinator.
Elaborating on a tweet that claimed there was a "50/50 chance" that McDaniels remains in New England, Fallon explained that if the McDaniels doesn't wind up in Cleveland, it won't be because he didn't want the job. In fact, per Fallon, the Canton native entered the offseason with the Browns' head coaching job as his top choice -- and it was that information that caused Panthers owner David Tepper to act quickly on hiring Rhule.
Ā "What I've been told is Josh McDaniels was David Tepper's No. 1 head coaching choice hands down for the Carolina Panthers. The Carolina Panthers were not Josh McDaniels' No. 1 choice. They weren't even his No. 2 choice," Fallon said on her podcast, The Courtney Fallon Experience. "Cleveland was his No. 1 choice. He was comfortable with Cleveland, he was comfortable with the Patriots. I'm not sure where the lines got crossed here that David Tepper found out that Josh wanted Cleveland."
Despite Fallon's report, there's no guarantee that McDaniels will land in Cleveland or that the Browns will even offer the John Carroll graduate the job. It does, however, quell speculation that McDaniels would be skeptical of coaching the Browns due to the unstable nature of the franchise under owner Jimmy Haslam.
It's also worth noting that McDaniels has competition for Cleveland's head coaching job, which is the only one still open in the NFL. On Wednesday, Cleveland interviewed Philadelphia Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz for its head-coaching vacancy and an interview with Minnesota Vikings offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski is scheduled for Thursday.
McDaniels, meanwhile, will reportedly interview for the Browns' job on Friday, with a decision on who will succeed Freddie Kitchens in Cleveland expected not long after that.
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Also left me wondering about what if we hire McD and Bill retires in a year or two... worst case might be we get a Patriot draft pick or two.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Speaking of Josh is anybody slightly concerned that no other team even interviewed him? At least to my knowledge. And how much farther up the food chain is Stefanski from Freddy?
WSS
Speaking of Josh is anybody slightly concerned that no other team even interviewed him? At least to my knowledge. And how much farther up the food chain is Stefanski from Freddy?
WSS
Well, he was tied up until Monday....so in reality, after he was free to interview, Ā two teams had already had their man: Ā Redskins and Cowboys. Ā Then the Panthers jumped on Ā Rhule like he was the second coming. Ā I get it...maybe. Ā He did a great job of turning around Temple and Baylor, but, hey, those were college programs in like the American Athletic Conf. and the Big 12. Ā Those aren't the NFL. Ā And the Giants? Ā I put that down to just Gettleman being an absolute whacko. Ā He thinks he is the second coming of AL Davis....who liked to pull of completely off the wall shit in his coaching hires and draft picks.Ā
With Stefanski, I think you make a point. Ā He has one year as an OC:
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PennĀ (2005)
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Minnesota VikingsĀ (2006ā2008)
Assistant to the head coach -
Minnesota Vikings (2009ā2013)
Assistant quarterbacks coach -
Minnesota Vikings (2014ā2015)
Tight ends coach -
Minnesota Vikings (2016)
Running backs coach -
Minnesota Vikings (2017ā2018)
Quarterbacks coach -
Minnesota Vikings (2018)
Interim offensive coordinator -
Minnesota Vikings (2019āpresent)
Offensive coordinator
Compare to Kitchens experience, prior to becoming Browns HC:
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Glenville StateĀ (1999)
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LSUĀ (2000)
Graduate assistant -
North TexasĀ (2001ā2003)
Running backs coach -
Mississippi StateĀ (2004)
Tight ends coach -
Mississippi StateĀ (2005)
Running backs coach -
Dallas CowboysĀ (2006)
Tight ends coach -
Arizona CardinalsĀ (2007ā2012)
Tight ends coach -
Arizona CardinalsĀ (2013ā2016)
Quarterbacks coach -
Arizona CardinalsĀ (2017)
Running backs coach -
Cleveland BrownsĀ (2018)
Associate head coach & running backs coach -
Cleveland BrownsĀ (2018)
Offensive coordinator - Ā
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PennĀ (2005)
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The Visor wants to be our coach eh?Ā Ā
Perhaps McDaniels should start wearing a full hat during training camp.....the summer sun has obviously baked his brain.
The Visor wants to be our coach eh?Ā Ā
Perhaps McDaniels should start wearing a full hat during training camp.....the summer sun has obviously baked his brain.
Yea, I am not a big fan of the visor look. Ā I have one in my closet and never wear it. Ā I wouldn't even want to wear one on a golf course.
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Article from the Canton Repository... very interesting take on the angle of what McD will do in his interview tomorrow and a decent read.
Link to full article follows Headline plus the opening thru one boldfaced tidbit that I think may be determinative for McD becoming our next HC. If McD can split the hair that is that tidbit, then I think he has grown since his debacle in Denver and can be our new HC.
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Steve Doerschuk: Expect Josh McDaniels to recommend sweeping Browns makeover
Browns beat writer Steve Doerschuk expects Josh McDaniels to gauge Jimmy Haslamās appetite for big operational changes when he interviews with the Browns on Friday.
If one knows Josh McDaniels and his story reasonably well, one can begin to imagine how key points of his interview with the Browns might play out Friday.
This version comes from someone who has met face-to-face with McDaniels at all nine of his Super Bowls (he and Tom Brady are the only Patriots to work for Bill Belichick in every one). These Super Bowl visits began not terribly long after we knew McDaniels as a top-of-the-class student at Canton McKinley who navigated the tricky business of quarterbacking a high-profile team piloted by his dad.
Fridayās interview is the last one scheduled in the Brownsā head coaching search. McDaniels will be assessing the Browns as intently as they are studying him. One imagines an undertone of respect from both sides as they gauge each otherās appetite for brutal honesty.
They could be perfect for each other.
McDaniels will be accompanied by his wife, with whom he will discuss an offer if one comes. He will be prepared to make a quick decision, including to move on, if his clear vision of what the Browns need meets a lukewarm reception early in the day.
McDaniels will present firm requirements, taking care that they do not come off as demands.
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"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Sigh. There wasn't much need for a huge makeover (acknowledge I am in the minority) but seems that's where we are headed again.
We were in such a great position, it's so frustrating.
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Article from the Canton Repository... very interesting take on the angle of what McD will do in his interview tomorrow and a decent read.
Link to full article follows Headline plus the opening thru one boldfaced tidbit that I think may be determinative for McD becoming our next HC. If McD can split the hair that is that tidbit, then I think he has grown since his debacle in Denver and can be our new HC.
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Steve Doerschuk: Expect Josh McDaniels to recommend sweeping Browns makeover
Browns beat writer Steve Doerschuk expects Josh McDaniels to gauge Jimmy Haslamās appetite for big operational changes when he interviews with the Browns on Friday.
If one knows Josh McDaniels and his story reasonably well, one can begin to imagine how key points of his interview with the Browns might play out Friday.
This version comes from someone who has met face-to-face with McDaniels at all nine of his Super Bowls (he and Tom Brady are the only Patriots to work for Bill Belichick in every one). These Super Bowl visits began not terribly long after we knew McDaniels as a top-of-the-class student at Canton McKinley who navigated the tricky business of quarterbacking a high-profile team piloted by his dad.
Fridayās interview is the last one scheduled in the Brownsā head coaching search. McDaniels will be assessing the Browns as intently as they are studying him. One imagines an undertone of respect from both sides as they gauge each otherās appetite for brutal honesty.
They could be perfect for each other.
McDaniels will be accompanied by his wife, with whom he will discuss an offer if one comes. He will be prepared to make a quick decision, including to move on, if his clear vision of what the Browns need meets a lukewarm reception early in the day.
McDaniels will present firm requirements, taking care that they do not come off as demands.
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Steve Doerschuk: Expect Josh McDaniels to
...that's his opinion...but...it's opinion...
It's a matter of how much Jimmuh HAS TO have him.
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...that's his opinion...but...it's opinion...
It's a matter of how much Jimmuh HAS TO have him.
Actually it's not Doerschuk's opinion... it's the opinion of "someone who has met face-to-face with McDaniels at all nine of his Super Bowls (he and Tom Brady are the only Patriots to work for Bill Belichick in every one)." And that kind of proximity should mean it is a fairly well-informed one.
At any rate now CBS Sports has picked up the story...
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...that's his opinion...but...it's opinion...
It's a matter of how much Jimmuh HAS TO have him.
Meh. I always figured McDaniels and Jimmy hashed this out like week 15 of the season, Jimmy agreed and told Dorsey and he packed up his stuff and left... the rest of these āinterviewsāĀ haveĀ been a dog and pony show...
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...that's his opinion...but...it's opinion...
It's a matter of how much Jimmuh HAS TO have him.
Meh. I always figured McDaniels and Jimmy hashed this out like week 15 of the season, Jimmy agreed and told Dorsey and he packed up his stuff and left... the rest of these āinterviewsāĀ haveĀ been a dog and pony show...
Meh. I always figured McDaniels and Jimmy hashed this out like week 15 of the season, Jimmy agreed and told Dorsey and he packed up his stuff and left... the rest of these āinterviewsāĀ haveĀ been a dog and pony show...
I had this same feeling as well. That Dorsey was leaving because Jimmy already had his coach and wanted more control.Ā
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If McDaniels does get the job the first thing he needs to do is hire Tim Tebow to coach BakerĀ on how not to be an NFL QB ....
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If McDaniels does get the job the first thing he needs to do is hire Tim Tebow to coach BakerĀ on how not to be an NFL QB ....
If McDaniels does get the job the first thing he needs to do is hire Tim Tebow to coach BakerĀ on how not to be an NFL QB ....
I'd have to think that most quarterbacks drafted in the first round failed to live up to expectations.
But that aside one concern I have about McDaniels is that I heard Terry Pluto on the radio this morning he doesn't seem very enthusiastic at all. And I usually respect his opinions.
WSS
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If McDaniels does get the job the first thing he needs to do is hire Tim Tebow to coach BakerĀ on how not to be an NFL QB ....
I'd have to think that most quarterbacks drafted in the first round failed to live up to expectations.
But that aside one concern I have about McDaniels is that I heard Terry Pluto on the radio this morning he doesn't seem very enthusiastic at all. And I usually respect his opinions.
WSS
I'd have to think that most quarterbacks drafted in the first round failed to live up to expectations.
But that aside one concern I have about McDaniels is that I heard Terry Pluto on the radio this morning he doesn't seem very enthusiastic at all. And I usually respect his opinions.
WSS
I didn't get to hear that, could you elaborate more please?
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I'd have to think that most quarterbacks drafted in the first round failed to live up to expectations.
But that aside one concern I have about McDaniels is that I heard Terry Pluto on the radio this morning he doesn't seem very enthusiastic at all. And I usually respect his opinions.
WSS
I didn't get to hear that, could you elaborate more please?
I didn't get to hear that, could you elaborate more please?
Actually he was on the radio has eyes driving over to get blood drawn I didn't hear or record the whole thing he just sounded very lukewarm about Josh. Seems like he preferred Eric bieniemy.Ā
WSS
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I didn't get to hear that, could you elaborate more please?
Actually he was on the radio has eyes driving over to get blood drawn I didn't hear or record the whole thing he just sounded very lukewarm about Josh. Seems like he preferred Eric bieniemy.Ā
WSS
Actually he was on the radio has eyes driving over to get blood drawn I didn't hear or record the whole thing he just sounded very lukewarm about Josh. Seems like he preferred Eric bieniemy.Ā
WSS
I'm lukewarm on him too, if he's hired let's hope he's learnt enough since his last stint as HC to make us a winner.
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Actually he was on the radio has eyes driving over to get blood drawn I didn't hear or record the whole thing he just sounded very lukewarm about Josh. Seems like he preferred Eric bieniemy.Ā
WSS
I'm lukewarm on him too, if he's hired let's hope he's learnt enough since his last stint as HC to make us a winner.
I'm lukewarm on him too, if he's hired let's hope he's learnt enough since his last stint as HC to make us a winner.
I agree with that. And again I'm concerned that no other team showed any interest. Sure he couldn't interview right away with anybody but seems like other teams didn't care to wait. Still I will be in the guy's Corner if he's the choice. There are certainly positives
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Iāve said all along we need a LEADER not a position genius, or a great play caller or even a coordinator that has produced results. Ā
Hopefully this leader surrounds himself with the great play caller, good QB coach and a Def. coordinator with a decent scheme.Ā
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