McDaniels next coach possibly...
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Speaking of Josh is anybody slightly concerned that no other team even interviewed him? At least to my knowledge. And how much farther up the food chain is Stefanski from Freddy?
WSS
Speaking of Josh is anybody slightly concerned that no other team even interviewed him? At least to my knowledge. And how much farther up the food chain is Stefanski from Freddy?
WSS
Well, he was tied up until Monday....so in reality, after he was free to interview, two teams had already had their man: Redskins and Cowboys. Then the Panthers jumped on Rhule like he was the second coming. I get it...maybe. He did a great job of turning around Temple and Baylor, but, hey, those were college programs in like the American Athletic Conf. and the Big 12. Those aren't the NFL. And the Giants? I put that down to just Gettleman being an absolute whacko. He thinks he is the second coming of AL Davis....who liked to pull of completely off the wall shit in his coaching hires and draft picks.
With Stefanski, I think you make a point. He has one year as an OC:
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Penn (2005)
Assistant director of football operations -
Minnesota Vikings (2006–2008)
Assistant to the head coach -
Minnesota Vikings (2009–2013)
Assistant quarterbacks coach -
Minnesota Vikings (2014–2015)
Tight ends coach -
Minnesota Vikings (2016)
Running backs coach -
Minnesota Vikings (2017–2018)
Quarterbacks coach -
Minnesota Vikings (2018)
Interim offensive coordinator -
Minnesota Vikings (2019–present)
Offensive coordinator
Compare to Kitchens experience, prior to becoming Browns HC:
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Glenville State (1999)
Running backs coach & tight ends coach -
LSU (2000)
Graduate assistant -
North Texas (2001–2003)
Running backs coach -
Mississippi State (2004)
Tight ends coach -
Mississippi State (2005)
Running backs coach -
Dallas Cowboys (2006)
Tight ends coach -
Arizona Cardinals (2007–2012)
Tight ends coach -
Arizona Cardinals (2013–2016)
Quarterbacks coach -
Arizona Cardinals (2017)
Running backs coach -
Cleveland Browns (2018)
Associate head coach & running backs coach -
Cleveland Browns (2018)
Offensive coordinator
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Penn (2005)
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The Visor wants to be our coach eh?
Perhaps McDaniels should start wearing a full hat during training camp.....the summer sun has obviously baked his brain.
The Visor wants to be our coach eh?
Perhaps McDaniels should start wearing a full hat during training camp.....the summer sun has obviously baked his brain.
Yea, I am not a big fan of the visor look. I have one in my closet and never wear it. I wouldn't even want to wear one on a golf course.
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Article from the Canton Repository... very interesting take on the angle of what McD will do in his interview tomorrow and a decent read.
Link to full article follows Headline plus the opening thru one boldfaced tidbit that I think may be determinative for McD becoming our next HC. If McD can split the hair that is that tidbit, then I think he has grown since his debacle in Denver and can be our new HC.
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Steve Doerschuk: Expect Josh McDaniels to recommend sweeping Browns makeover
Browns beat writer Steve Doerschuk expects Josh McDaniels to gauge Jimmy Haslam’s appetite for big operational changes when he interviews with the Browns on Friday.
If one knows Josh McDaniels and his story reasonably well, one can begin to imagine how key points of his interview with the Browns might play out Friday.
This version comes from someone who has met face-to-face with McDaniels at all nine of his Super Bowls (he and Tom Brady are the only Patriots to work for Bill Belichick in every one). These Super Bowl visits began not terribly long after we knew McDaniels as a top-of-the-class student at Canton McKinley who navigated the tricky business of quarterbacking a high-profile team piloted by his dad.
Friday’s interview is the last one scheduled in the Browns’ head coaching search. McDaniels will be assessing the Browns as intently as they are studying him. One imagines an undertone of respect from both sides as they gauge each other’s appetite for brutal honesty.
They could be perfect for each other.
McDaniels will be accompanied by his wife, with whom he will discuss an offer if one comes. He will be prepared to make a quick decision, including to move on, if his clear vision of what the Browns need meets a lukewarm reception early in the day.
McDaniels will present firm requirements, taking care that they do not come off as demands.
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"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Sigh. There wasn't much need for a huge makeover (acknowledge I am in the minority) but seems that's where we are headed again.
We were in such a great position, it's so frustrating.
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Article from the Canton Repository... very interesting take on the angle of what McD will do in his interview tomorrow and a decent read.
Link to full article follows Headline plus the opening thru one boldfaced tidbit that I think may be determinative for McD becoming our next HC. If McD can split the hair that is that tidbit, then I think he has grown since his debacle in Denver and can be our new HC.
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Steve Doerschuk: Expect Josh McDaniels to recommend sweeping Browns makeover
Browns beat writer Steve Doerschuk expects Josh McDaniels to gauge Jimmy Haslam’s appetite for big operational changes when he interviews with the Browns on Friday.
If one knows Josh McDaniels and his story reasonably well, one can begin to imagine how key points of his interview with the Browns might play out Friday.
This version comes from someone who has met face-to-face with McDaniels at all nine of his Super Bowls (he and Tom Brady are the only Patriots to work for Bill Belichick in every one). These Super Bowl visits began not terribly long after we knew McDaniels as a top-of-the-class student at Canton McKinley who navigated the tricky business of quarterbacking a high-profile team piloted by his dad.
Friday’s interview is the last one scheduled in the Browns’ head coaching search. McDaniels will be assessing the Browns as intently as they are studying him. One imagines an undertone of respect from both sides as they gauge each other’s appetite for brutal honesty.
They could be perfect for each other.
McDaniels will be accompanied by his wife, with whom he will discuss an offer if one comes. He will be prepared to make a quick decision, including to move on, if his clear vision of what the Browns need meets a lukewarm reception early in the day.
McDaniels will present firm requirements, taking care that they do not come off as demands.
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Steve Doerschuk: Expect Josh McDaniels to
...that's his opinion...but...it's opinion...
It's a matter of how much Jimmuh HAS TO have him.
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...that's his opinion...but...it's opinion...
It's a matter of how much Jimmuh HAS TO have him.
Actually it's not Doerschuk's opinion... it's the opinion of "someone who has met face-to-face with McDaniels at all nine of his Super Bowls (he and Tom Brady are the only Patriots to work for Bill Belichick in every one)." And that kind of proximity should mean it is a fairly well-informed one.
At any rate now CBS Sports has picked up the story...
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...that's his opinion...but...it's opinion...
It's a matter of how much Jimmuh HAS TO have him.
Meh. I always figured McDaniels and Jimmy hashed this out like week 15 of the season, Jimmy agreed and told Dorsey and he packed up his stuff and left... the rest of these “interviews” have been a dog and pony show...
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...that's his opinion...but...it's opinion...
It's a matter of how much Jimmuh HAS TO have him.
Meh. I always figured McDaniels and Jimmy hashed this out like week 15 of the season, Jimmy agreed and told Dorsey and he packed up his stuff and left... the rest of these “interviews” have been a dog and pony show...
Meh. I always figured McDaniels and Jimmy hashed this out like week 15 of the season, Jimmy agreed and told Dorsey and he packed up his stuff and left... the rest of these “interviews” have been a dog and pony show...
I had this same feeling as well. That Dorsey was leaving because Jimmy already had his coach and wanted more control.
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If McDaniels does get the job the first thing he needs to do is hire Tim Tebow to coach Baker on how not to be an NFL QB ....
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If McDaniels does get the job the first thing he needs to do is hire Tim Tebow to coach Baker on how not to be an NFL QB ....
If McDaniels does get the job the first thing he needs to do is hire Tim Tebow to coach Baker on how not to be an NFL QB ....
I'd have to think that most quarterbacks drafted in the first round failed to live up to expectations.
But that aside one concern I have about McDaniels is that I heard Terry Pluto on the radio this morning he doesn't seem very enthusiastic at all. And I usually respect his opinions.
WSS
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If McDaniels does get the job the first thing he needs to do is hire Tim Tebow to coach Baker on how not to be an NFL QB ....
I'd have to think that most quarterbacks drafted in the first round failed to live up to expectations.
But that aside one concern I have about McDaniels is that I heard Terry Pluto on the radio this morning he doesn't seem very enthusiastic at all. And I usually respect his opinions.
WSS
I'd have to think that most quarterbacks drafted in the first round failed to live up to expectations.
But that aside one concern I have about McDaniels is that I heard Terry Pluto on the radio this morning he doesn't seem very enthusiastic at all. And I usually respect his opinions.
WSS
I didn't get to hear that, could you elaborate more please?
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I'd have to think that most quarterbacks drafted in the first round failed to live up to expectations.
But that aside one concern I have about McDaniels is that I heard Terry Pluto on the radio this morning he doesn't seem very enthusiastic at all. And I usually respect his opinions.
WSS
I didn't get to hear that, could you elaborate more please?
I didn't get to hear that, could you elaborate more please?
Actually he was on the radio has eyes driving over to get blood drawn I didn't hear or record the whole thing he just sounded very lukewarm about Josh. Seems like he preferred Eric bieniemy.
WSS
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I didn't get to hear that, could you elaborate more please?
Actually he was on the radio has eyes driving over to get blood drawn I didn't hear or record the whole thing he just sounded very lukewarm about Josh. Seems like he preferred Eric bieniemy.
WSS
Actually he was on the radio has eyes driving over to get blood drawn I didn't hear or record the whole thing he just sounded very lukewarm about Josh. Seems like he preferred Eric bieniemy.
WSS
I'm lukewarm on him too, if he's hired let's hope he's learnt enough since his last stint as HC to make us a winner.
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Actually he was on the radio has eyes driving over to get blood drawn I didn't hear or record the whole thing he just sounded very lukewarm about Josh. Seems like he preferred Eric bieniemy.
WSS
I'm lukewarm on him too, if he's hired let's hope he's learnt enough since his last stint as HC to make us a winner.
I'm lukewarm on him too, if he's hired let's hope he's learnt enough since his last stint as HC to make us a winner.
I agree with that. And again I'm concerned that no other team showed any interest. Sure he couldn't interview right away with anybody but seems like other teams didn't care to wait. Still I will be in the guy's Corner if he's the choice. There are certainly positives
WSS
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I’ve said all along we need a LEADER not a position genius, or a great play caller or even a coordinator that has produced results.
Hopefully this leader surrounds himself with the great play caller, good QB coach and a Def. coordinator with a decent scheme.
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I'm lukewarm on him too, if he's hired let's hope he's learnt enough since his last stint as HC to make us a winner.
I agree with that. And again I'm concerned that no other team showed any interest. Sure he couldn't interview right away with anybody but seems like other teams didn't care to wait. Still I will be in the guy's Corner if he's the choice. There are certainly positives
WSS
I agree with that. And again I'm concerned that no other team showed any interest. Sure he couldn't interview right away with anybody but seems like other teams didn't care to wait. Still I will be in the guy's Corner if he's the choice. There are certainly positives
WSS
You can get that way on leftovers. What did or didn't everyone else see about this candidate that you all of a sudden see?
I also think that can come on more after YEARS of searching for a new HC.
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I'm lukewarm on him too, if he's hired let's hope he's learnt enough since his last stint as HC to make us a winner.
I agree with that. And again I'm concerned that no other team showed any interest. Sure he couldn't interview right away with anybody but seems like other teams didn't care to wait. Still I will be in the guy's Corner if he's the choice. There are certainly positives
WSS
I agree with that. And again I'm concerned that no other team showed any interest. Sure he couldn't interview right away with anybody but seems like other teams didn't care to wait. Still I will be in the guy's Corner if he's the choice. There are certainly positives
WSS
Maybe he didn’t want to interview With some of these other teams.
you hear the question all the time Over the years in Cleveland - why didn’t we interview so and so- well maybe he didn’t want to coach here.
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I agree with that. And again I'm concerned that no other team showed any interest. Sure he couldn't interview right away with anybody but seems like other teams didn't care to wait. Still I will be in the guy's Corner if he's the choice. There are certainly positives
WSS
Maybe he didn’t want to interview With some of these other teams.
you hear the question all the time Over the years in Cleveland - why didn’t we interview so and so- well maybe he didn’t want to coach here.
Maybe he didn’t want to interview With some of these other teams.
you hear the question all the time Over the years in Cleveland - why didn’t we interview so and so- well maybe he didn’t want to coach here.
Just because you get offered an interview, doesn't mean you have to interview.
Rhule supposedly told the Browns don't bother....
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Maybe he didn’t want to interview With some of these other teams.
you hear the question all the time Over the years in Cleveland - why didn’t we interview so and so- well maybe he didn’t want to coach here.
Just because you get offered an interview, doesn't mean you have to interview.
Rhule supposedly told the Browns don't bother....
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