So, who would you pick as the next HC ?
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I will say this... We need someone thats going to teach Baker to be a surgeon... That starts by getting rid of OBJ... I know a lot of you don't want to hear this... But its painfully obvious... I just think OBJ's best days are behind him... We need solid chain mover types like a Hines Ward.. I think Landry stays for sure... Theres just too much bullshit with OBJ with rings.. Cars.. money and what not... That doesnt ring team player to me... We need a HC that is gonna drive discipline and accountability... no favoritism toward any one player.. And He doesnt have to be "buddies" with them...
I will say this... We need someone thats going to teach Baker to be a surgeon... That starts by getting rid of OBJ... I know a lot of you don't want to hear this... But its painfully obvious... I just think OBJ's best days are behind him... We need solid chain mover types like a Hines Ward.. I think Landry stays for sure... Theres just too much bullshit with OBJ with rings.. Cars.. money and what not... That doesnt ring team player to me... We need a HC that is gonna drive discipline and accountability... no favoritism toward any one player.. And He doesnt have to be "buddies" with them...
Yeah I agree. OBJ is a huge distraction. He's not going to change his ways, no matter what team he's on.
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I think Saleh and Greg Roman could/should be give some consideration.
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If they fire Freddie and get a new head coach, I'd love for the new head coach to consider Ray Horton as his defensive coordinator.
Fuck Ray Horton.. He's already had two tours of duty here.. His D is too fucking passive for me..
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So far (at 3:35 p.m. on 12/22/2019), the top choices are:
1. Ron Rivera (10 votes)
2. Freddie Kitchens (8 votes)
3. "Other" (3 votes)
4. Tie between Mike McCarthy, Josh McDaniels, and Kevin Stefanski (2 votes)
5. Tie between Dan Campbell, Marvin Lewis, Greg Roman, and Lincoln Riley (1 vote)
Or to put it another way:
Votes to dump Freddie: 23
Votes to keep Freddie: 8
So far (at 3:35 p.m. on 12/22/2019), the top choices are:
1. Ron Rivera (10 votes)
2. Freddie Kitchens (8 votes)
3. "Other" (3 votes)
4. Tie between Mike McCarthy, Josh McDaniels, and Kevin Stefanski (2 votes)
5. Tie between Dan Campbell, Marvin Lewis, Greg Roman, and Lincoln Riley (1 vote)
Or to put it another way:
Votes to dump Freddie: 23
Votes to keep Freddie: 8
Na obviously Freddie has created 8 different accounts. No Browns fan can be this dumb ?
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
I like Urban
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So far (at 3:35 p.m. on 12/22/2019), the top choices are:
1. Ron Rivera (10 votes)
2. Freddie Kitchens (8 votes)
3. "Other" (3 votes)
4. Tie between Mike McCarthy, Josh McDaniels, and Kevin Stefanski (2 votes)
5. Tie between Dan Campbell, Marvin Lewis, Greg Roman, and Lincoln Riley (1 vote)
Or to put it another way:
Votes to dump Freddie: 23
Votes to keep Freddie: 8
Na obviously Freddie has created 8 different accounts. No Browns fan can be this dumb ?
Na obviously Freddie has created 8 different accounts. No Browns fan can be this dumb ?
Per ESPN
Describe the game in two words: So emblematic. Clock mismanagement, questionable decision-making, missed opportunities and sideline shouting all defined Sunday’s game, as they have this entire Browns season.
DOES THIS SOUND LIKE THE COACH WE WANT?
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Na obviously Freddie has created 8 different accounts. No Browns fan can be this dumb ?
Per ESPN
Describe the game in two words: So emblematic. Clock mismanagement, questionable decision-making, missed opportunities and sideline shouting all defined Sunday’s game, as they have this entire Browns season.
DOES THIS SOUND LIKE THE COACH WE WANT?
Per ESPN
Describe the game in two words: So emblematic. Clock mismanagement, questionable decision-making, missed opportunities and sideline shouting all defined Sunday’s game, as they have this entire Browns season.
DOES THIS SOUND LIKE THE COACH WE WANT?
Truthfully.. and unfortunatly.....NO.
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The initial interviews are over (or so we believe).
Who would you pick? - You're not married to your choice. None of us interviewed anybody so we don't 'really know' the candidates. Your choice could get hired and suck....and you'd be allowed to say he sucks.
The hire could happen very soon, it could be after the weekend, or it could be after the last candidate exits the playoffs.
McDaniels, Stefanski, Saleh, Bieniemy, Roman, Schwartz, Daboll
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I'm picking Roman. I like how he adapted his side of the ball to match the talent that he currently has. I wouldn't mind having a guy overseeing the whole team with that kind of mind's eye.
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I guess I'd go with McDaniels.
He's got tons of experience and has been a head coach. I think he could put together a good coaching staff.
I'm not head over heels about him, but everyone else has bigger questions surrounding them. Stefanski and Saleh are relatively green at being coordinators, Bieniemy is an OC who doesn't call players, Roman seems to really succeed with running QBs, Schwartz does have HC experience, but his Lions teams were undisciplined, young teams that often shot themselves in the foot. (Sound familiar?). Daboll feels like the human version of a consolation prize.
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I guess I'd go with McDaniels.
He's got tons of experience and has been a head coach. I think he could put together a good coaching staff.
I'm not head over heels about him, but everyone else has bigger questions surrounding them. Stefanski and Saleh are relatively green at being coordinators, Bieniemy is an OC who doesn't call players, Roman seems to really succeed with running QBs, Schwartz does have HC experience, but his Lions teams were undisciplined, young teams that often shot themselves in the foot. (Sound familiar?). Daboll feels like the human version of a consolation prize.
Stefanski and Saleh are relatively green at being coordinators, Bieniemy is an OC who doesn't call players, Roman seems to really succeed with running QBs, Schwartz does have HC experience, but his Lions teams were undisciplined, young teams that often shot themselves in the foot. (Sound familiar?). Daboll feels like the human version of a consolation prize.
I agree with your assessment of the candidates.
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I'm betting on either Stefanski or McDaniels.
They'd love Saleh enough to wait until after the Super Bowl. Don't see it happening.
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Sort of been asked in about a dozen threads here. But I will give a pecking order of those who interviewed.
1. McDaniels
2. Stefanski
3. Bienemy
4. Saleh
5. Roman
6. Schwartz
7. Daboll
8. McCarthy...off the board.
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I'm going to wait until I see the white smoke come out of the chimney when they actually pick a new coach and go from there.
I don't think that they are going to consult with us before making a decision.
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I'm going to wait until I see the white smoke come out of the chimney when they actually pick a new coach and go from there.
I don't think that they are going to consult with us before making a decision.
I'm going to wait until I see the white smoke come out of the chimney when they actually pick a new coach and go from there.
I don't think that they are going to consult with us before making a decision.
Cop out!
We have another use for your time: Pope watch.
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The initial interviews are over (or so we believe).
Who would you pick? - You're not married to your choice. None of us interviewed anybody so we don't 'really know' the candidates. Your choice could get hired and suck....and you'd be allowed to say he sucks.
The hire could happen very soon, it could be after the weekend, or it could be after the last candidate exits the playoffs.
McDaniels, Stefanski, Saleh, Bieniemy, Roman, Schwartz, Daboll
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I'm picking Roman. I like how he adapted his side of the ball to match the talent that he currently has. I wouldn't mind having a guy overseeing the whole team with that kind of mind's eye.
McDaniels, Stefanski, Saleh, Bieniemy, Roman, Schwartz, Daboll
I liked Saleh, but since only McD and Stef appear to be in the running... I think I go Stef.
He's the less seasoned of the two, but...
In the end I just can't get passed McD's face plant in Denver.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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Another thing that bothers me about McD...
I can't recall seeing him interact with anyone on the Pat's sideline other than Tom or Bill.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I know the popular choice is McDaniels, and I would be over the moon if we get him but out of the whole list Schwartz is my preference.
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I'm going to wait until I see the white smoke come out of the chimney when they actually pick a new coach and go from there.
I don't think that they are going to consult with us before making a decision.
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