So, who would you pick as the next HC ?
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So far (at 3:35 p.m. on 12/22/2019), the top choices are:
1. Ron Rivera (10 votes)
2. Freddie Kitchens (8 votes)
3. "Other" (3 votes)
4. Tie between Mike McCarthy, Josh McDaniels, and Kevin Stefanski (2 votes)
5. Tie between Dan Campbell, Marvin Lewis, Greg Roman, and Lincoln Riley (1 vote)
Or to put it another way:
Votes to dump Freddie: 23
Votes to keep Freddie: 8
Na obviously Freddie has created 8 different accounts. No Browns fan can be this dumb ?
Na obviously Freddie has created 8 different accounts. No Browns fan can be this dumb ?
Per ESPN
Describe the game in two words: So emblematic. Clock mismanagement, questionable decision-making, missed opportunities and sideline shouting all defined Sunday’s game, as they have this entire Browns season.
DOES THIS SOUND LIKE THE COACH WE WANT?
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Na obviously Freddie has created 8 different accounts. No Browns fan can be this dumb ?
Per ESPN
Describe the game in two words: So emblematic. Clock mismanagement, questionable decision-making, missed opportunities and sideline shouting all defined Sunday’s game, as they have this entire Browns season.
DOES THIS SOUND LIKE THE COACH WE WANT?
Per ESPN
Describe the game in two words: So emblematic. Clock mismanagement, questionable decision-making, missed opportunities and sideline shouting all defined Sunday’s game, as they have this entire Browns season.
DOES THIS SOUND LIKE THE COACH WE WANT?
Truthfully.. and unfortunatly.....NO.
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The initial interviews are over (or so we believe).
Who would you pick? - You're not married to your choice. None of us interviewed anybody so we don't 'really know' the candidates. Your choice could get hired and suck....and you'd be allowed to say he sucks.
The hire could happen very soon, it could be after the weekend, or it could be after the last candidate exits the playoffs.
McDaniels, Stefanski, Saleh, Bieniemy, Roman, Schwartz, Daboll
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I'm picking Roman. I like how he adapted his side of the ball to match the talent that he currently has. I wouldn't mind having a guy overseeing the whole team with that kind of mind's eye.
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I guess I'd go with McDaniels.
He's got tons of experience and has been a head coach. I think he could put together a good coaching staff.
I'm not head over heels about him, but everyone else has bigger questions surrounding them. Stefanski and Saleh are relatively green at being coordinators, Bieniemy is an OC who doesn't call players, Roman seems to really succeed with running QBs, Schwartz does have HC experience, but his Lions teams were undisciplined, young teams that often shot themselves in the foot. (Sound familiar?). Daboll feels like the human version of a consolation prize.
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I guess I'd go with McDaniels.
He's got tons of experience and has been a head coach. I think he could put together a good coaching staff.
I'm not head over heels about him, but everyone else has bigger questions surrounding them. Stefanski and Saleh are relatively green at being coordinators, Bieniemy is an OC who doesn't call players, Roman seems to really succeed with running QBs, Schwartz does have HC experience, but his Lions teams were undisciplined, young teams that often shot themselves in the foot. (Sound familiar?). Daboll feels like the human version of a consolation prize.
Stefanski and Saleh are relatively green at being coordinators, Bieniemy is an OC who doesn't call players, Roman seems to really succeed with running QBs, Schwartz does have HC experience, but his Lions teams were undisciplined, young teams that often shot themselves in the foot. (Sound familiar?). Daboll feels like the human version of a consolation prize.
I agree with your assessment of the candidates.
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I'm betting on either Stefanski or McDaniels.
They'd love Saleh enough to wait until after the Super Bowl. Don't see it happening.
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Sort of been asked in about a dozen threads here. But I will give a pecking order of those who interviewed.
1. McDaniels
2. Stefanski
3. Bienemy
4. Saleh
5. Roman
6. Schwartz
7. Daboll
8. McCarthy...off the board.
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I'm going to wait until I see the white smoke come out of the chimney when they actually pick a new coach and go from there.
I don't think that they are going to consult with us before making a decision.

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The initial interviews are over (or so we believe).
Who would you pick? - You're not married to your choice. None of us interviewed anybody so we don't 'really know' the candidates. Your choice could get hired and suck....and you'd be allowed to say he sucks.
The hire could happen very soon, it could be after the weekend, or it could be after the last candidate exits the playoffs.
McDaniels, Stefanski, Saleh, Bieniemy, Roman, Schwartz, Daboll
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I'm picking Roman. I like how he adapted his side of the ball to match the talent that he currently has. I wouldn't mind having a guy overseeing the whole team with that kind of mind's eye.
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I know the popular choice is McDaniels, and I would be over the moon if we get him but out of the whole list Schwartz is my preference.
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I'm going to wait until I see the white smoke come out of the chimney when they actually pick a new coach and go from there.
I don't think that they are going to consult with us before making a decision.

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Another thing that bothers me about McD...
I can't recall seeing him interact with anyone on the Pat's sideline other than Tom or Bill.
Another thing that bothers me about McD...
I can't recall seeing him interact with anyone on the Pat's sideline other than Tom or Bill.
That plus the above mentioned Denver stint added to the decommit from his last HC job offer.
I made it clear I would take only the Stef/Kubiak duo if we can get them both together. It's ideal.
EDIT: One of my key questions in the interview with Stef is who he planned to bring to his coaching staff and had he gotten any indications that any would want the job he had in mind for them. I would have been asking the same question to all serious contenders for the Browns HC.
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It will be Kevin Stefanski....imo, this came down to the years & money that McDaniels may want to rebuild this team his way..And am not a college coach either? They knew Stefanski's number from last season's interview..in the end, McDaniel's folded up his tent ?️ & went home over dollars... I like Kevin, he's a smart guy that just took his whining receiving core to "I guess it ain't all about me"
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I guess I'd go with McDaniels.
He's got tons of experience and has been a head coach. I think he could put together a good coaching staff.
I'm not head over heels about him, but everyone else has bigger questions surrounding them. Stefanski and Saleh are relatively green at being coordinators, Bieniemy is an OC who doesn't call players, Roman seems to really succeed with running QBs, Schwartz does have HC experience, but his Lions teams were undisciplined, young teams that often shot themselves in the foot. (Sound familiar?). Daboll feels like the human version of a consolation prize.
I guess I'd go with McDaniels.
He's got tons of experience and has been a head coach. I think he could put together a good coaching staff.
I'm not head over heels about him, but everyone else has bigger questions surrounding them. Stefanski and Saleh are relatively green at being coordinators, Bieniemy is an OC who doesn't call players, Roman seems to really succeed with running QBs, Schwartz does have HC experience, but his Lions teams were undisciplined, young teams that often shot themselves in the foot. (Sound familiar?). Daboll feels like the human version of a consolation prize.
This is the most spot assessment of the entire situation. When put in these terms, haven't the Browns hired all of these guys in the past? They hired young coordinators, they have hired guys with titles but little real decision power and they have hired guys that built short term schemes to catch lightning in a bottle.
I would have to go with McDaniels.
My greatest concern is his fealty to New England. Not that he wouldn't be committed to winning, but that, if in the event of a vacancy, he would head back. Exhibit A: the way he strung out the Colts. I think he got home sick. Reich has two McDaniels hires on his staff and McDaniels never even set foot in the building.
I don't care about his time in Denver. People point out Belichick's time in Cleveland as less than stellar, though rarely do they mention the 1994 team that went 11-5. Belichick, like McDaniels, also had his head fake moment with the Jets.
I like the rest of you, want someone that wants to be part of the Cleveland Browns, not someone that wants to coach until Belichick retires and gets called back to Kraftland to get the band back together.
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1. Gary Kubiak- Proven head coach whose offense should fit nicely with what we do well.
2. Jim Schwartz- Has head coaching experience. One of the best defensive minds in the game. Take no shit attitude that will get some of these divas in check
3. Greg Roman- Not ideal fit for our offense but could work. Will turn the Ravens into a mediocre team and may ruin Lamars career. Look back when people asked me if I would take Lamar #1.
4. Jay Gruden- Head coaching experience and if were being honest he got a raw deal. He never had much talent to work with. When he was an O.C. with talent he put together a really impressive offense.
5. Pete Carmichael Jr- Longtime Saints O.C. has been apart of the most explosive offenses. He knows how to coach undersized QBs. Have to wonder why he hasn't recieved a head coaching job.
I would stay far away from McDaniels. His personality will not mix well with these divas we have. That stunt he pulled with Indy is unforgivable.
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HC Jim Schwartz
DC Wade Phillips
OC Shane Waldron
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