So, who would you pick as the next HC ?
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True, but should the Browns hire McDaniels, I doubt he's going to get final say on players.
Very little evidence and history to back this up. Especially if McD is "picking" the GM. He had say in Denver, BB has the say the NE. Whom do you think he molds himself after?
Why would Schwartz take a lateral move to Coordinate a defense in Cleveland?
Contract expires with Philly. May mutually be looking for a new change in scenery.
Well, you are just speculating....making an ass of yourself by assuming. Essentially....anything McD did with what you describe up there BB did before him and better/worse.
BB had some SB rings as DC of the NYG. BB clearly threw Bernie under the bus...and the whole team by cutting him and putting in Todd Phucking Phicox. There has been no worse personell choice in Browns history than that. Hell, at least Tim Tebow won a playoff game for McD. And he BB lost the locker room basically 2 years running. And the Indy thing with McD: Remember BBs one day stint as HC of the NYJ.....that was some even bigger bush league shit.
So, obviously, per the BB example, the things you gripe about don't mean shit, if he can come in here and win. And, of course, it will help if he has a great QB. (as it would help any coach who ever donned a headset)
First off... STHEEFU. That's all most of what we do - speculation. But I'm not making an ass of myself as history has shown, that is exactly what happened in Denver. Accept it or keep your head up your ass. At least there you can't see the screen to type.
BB has nothing to do with this conversation. When you want to converse like an adult, get at me. BB isn't the "leader" in that locker room - that would be Brady. Which is exactly why that relationship works the way it does. Tom is the fiery leader for his man, BB is the mind.
My thoughts exactly on McDaniels.
Im kind of leaning toward Saleh or Stefanski.
And i want Phillips as the DC.
Saleh is another interesting name. I wonder who he would bring from SF? I would love a Shanny type mind to help craft this offense. Between my calls for more 12 personnel, under center work and using the sprint outs, waggles, boots... Would be a great
Very little evidence and history to back this up. Especially if McD is "picking" the GM. He had say in Denver, BB has the say the NE. Whom do you think he molds himself after?
Contract expires with Philly. May mutually be looking for a new change in scenery.
First off... STHEEFU. That's all most of what we do - speculation. But I'm not making an ass of myself as history has shown, that is exactly what happened in Denver. Accept it or keep your head up your ass. At least there you can't see the screen to type.
BB has nothing to do with this conversation. When you want to converse like an adult, get at me. BB isn't the "leader" in that locker room - that would be Brady. Which is exactly why that relationship works the way it does. Tom is the fiery leader for his man, BB is the mind.
Saleh is another interesting name. I wonder who he would bring from SF? I would love a Shanny type mind to help craft this offense. Between my calls for more 12 personnel, under center work and using the sprint outs, waggles, boots... Would be a great
Mike LaFleur...Matt’s brother. He would be an interesting add offensively. Passing coordinator Niners. Was on Cleveland staff in 2014.
The Shanny offensive system and any disciples to it would be great. They block so dang well and call some great play action stuffSaleh was with the Hawks and Jags both at great points in the franchise.
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Very little evidence and history to back this up. Especially if McD is "picking" the GM. He had say in Denver, BB has the say the NE. Whom do you think he molds himself after?
Contract expires with Philly. May mutually be looking for a new change in scenery.
First off... STHEEFU. That's all most of what we do - speculation. But I'm not making an ass of myself as history has shown, that is exactly what happened in Denver. Accept it or keep your head up your ass. At least there you can't see the screen to type.
BB has nothing to do with this conversation. When you want to converse like an adult, get at me. BB isn't the "leader" in that locker room - that would be Brady. Which is exactly why that relationship works the way it does. Tom is the fiery leader for his man, BB is the mind.
Saleh is another interesting name. I wonder who he would bring from SF? I would love a Shanny type mind to help craft this offense. Between my calls for more 12 personnel, under center work and using the sprint outs, waggles, boots... Would be a great
Mike LaFleur...Matt’s brother. He would be an interesting add offensively. Passing coordinator Niners. Was on Cleveland staff in 2014.
The Shanny offensive system and any disciples to it would be great. They block so dang well and call some great play action stuffSaleh was with the Hawks and Jags both at great points in the franchise.
Mike LaFleur...Matt’s brother. He would be an interesting add offensively. Passing coordinator Niners. Was on Cleveland staff in 2014.
The Shanny offensive system and any disciples to it would be great. They block so dang well and call some great play action stuffSaleh was with the Hawks and Jags both at great points in the franchise.
Interesting. Might have to change my choice of HC now.
Saleh really has this cover 3 running a bit more different than what the Hawks did... at least, how they handle zone replacement at times. Right now we have some quality DB's on the perimeter to run a great deal of the C3, C1 and most other single high shells/rolls. A complete bonus to bring along the Shanny tree back to Cleveland.
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A thinking I have on McDaniels is that he won't be able to handle very well the strong egos on this team.
I'm surprised that Jimmy could contain himself enough to let McDaniels go home.
A thinking I have on McDaniels is that he won't be able to handle very well the strong egos on this team.
What is your evidence of that?
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What is your evidence of that?
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Saleh's grown on me, looks like a leader of men and I read he's very detail oriented and easily adapts to technology. I expect he wouldn't oppose analytics which maybe another reason why he's a finalist. Defensive coach but some defensive coaches have spearheaded some of the greatest offensive teams like Tony Dungy in Indy and Rivera had fairly good offenses when in Carolina.
Edit: Hawkins on the ThomaHawk podcast also stated he's not an egomaniac/a**hole which also fits into Jimmy's alignment philosophy.
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Very little evidence and history to back this up. Especially if McD is "picking" the GM. He had say in Denver, BB has the say the NE. Whom do you think he molds himself after?
Contract expires with Philly. May mutually be looking for a new change in scenery.
First off... STHEEFU. That's all most of what we do - speculation. But I'm not making an ass of myself as history has shown, that is exactly what happened in Denver. Accept it or keep your head up your ass. At least there you can't see the screen to type.
BB has nothing to do with this conversation. When you want to converse like an adult, get at me. BB isn't the "leader" in that locker room - that would be Brady. Which is exactly why that relationship works the way it does. Tom is the fiery leader for his man, BB is the mind.
Saleh is another interesting name. I wonder who he would bring from SF? I would love a Shanny type mind to help craft this offense. Between my calls for more 12 personnel, under center work and using the sprint outs, waggles, boots... Would be a great
Mike LaFleur...Matt’s brother. He would be an interesting add offensively. Passing coordinator Niners. Was on Cleveland staff in 2014.
The Shanny offensive system and any disciples to it would be great. They block so dang well and call some great play action stuffSaleh was with the Hawks and Jags both at great points in the franchise.
Mike LaFleur...Matt’s brother. He would be an interesting add offensively. Passing coordinator Niners. Was on Cleveland staff in 2014.
The Shanny offensive system and any disciples to it would be great. They block so dang well and call some great play action stuffSaleh was with the Hawks and Jags both at great points in the franchise.
this post might have some legs..am seeing it elsewhere & the rumor is Berry might be the rooney gm fit..Than Dobbs (connected to Saleh) would be the GM hired from Indy..Dobbs had loads to do with the scouting getting the Colts OL right..stay tuned, and looks like a good connection backer80
https://49erswebzone.com/articles/133223-robert-saleh-49ers-mcdaniel-lafleur-should-browns-coach/
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
What is your evidence of that?
Whatever this was supposed to be wasn't working.
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Whatever this was supposed to be wasn't working.
Whatever this was supposed to be wasn't working.
Sorry, it appears to be working from my perspective. It's Brady yelling at McDaniels. It's on this page:
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/03/tom-brady-josh-mcdaniels-yelling-video-patriots-bills
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Saleh's grown on me, looks like a leader of men and I read he's very detail oriented and easily adapts to technology. I expect he wouldn't oppose analytics which maybe another reason why he's a finalist. Defensive coach but some defensive coaches have spearheaded some of the greatest offensive teams like Tony Dungy in Indy and Rivera had fairly good offenses when in Carolina.
Edit: Hawkins on the ThomaHawk podcast also stated he's not an egomaniac/a**hole which also fits into Jimmy's alignment philosophy.
Saleh's grown on me, looks like a leader of men and I read he's very detail oriented and easily adapts to technology. I expect he wouldn't oppose analytics which maybe another reason why he's a finalist. Defensive coach but some defensive coaches have spearheaded some of the greatest offensive teams like Tony Dungy in Indy and Rivera had fairly good offenses when in Carolina.
Edit: Hawkins on the ThomaHawk podcast also stated he's not an egomaniac/a**hole which also fits into Jimmy's alignment philosophy.
Seems a defensive minded coach just sent those Ratbirds into hibernation...
FWIW, I can't remember the last time I've been so happy that another team lost....
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Whatever this was supposed to be wasn't working.
Sorry, it appears to be working from my perspective. It's Brady yelling at McDaniels. It's on this page:
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/03/tom-brady-josh-mcdaniels-yelling-video-patriots-bills
Sorry, it appears to be working from my perspective. It's Brady yelling at McDaniels. It's on this page:
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/03/tom-brady-josh-mcdaniels-yelling-video-patriots-bills
But that is just what we want.....some fire between a coach and his player. It seems to me that the Brady/McDaniel combo has worked pretty darn good over the years....and a little debate between them certainly is not indicative of an inability to "handle" a big ego. They handled each others egos together to the tune of Yay many Super Bowl rings.
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Mike LaFleur...Matt’s brother. He would be an interesting add offensively. Passing coordinator Niners. Was on Cleveland staff in 2014.
The Shanny offensive system and any disciples to it would be great. They block so dang well and call some great play action stuffSaleh was with the Hawks and Jags both at great points in the franchise.
this post might have some legs..am seeing it elsewhere & the rumor is Berry might be the rooney gm fit..Than Dobbs (connected to Saleh) would be the GM hired from Indy..Dobbs had loads to do with the scouting getting the Colts OL right..stay tuned, and looks like a good connection backer80
https://49erswebzone.com/articles/133223-robert-saleh-49ers-mcdaniel-lafleur-should-browns-coach/
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Sorry, it appears to be working from my perspective. It's Brady yelling at McDaniels. It's on this page:
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/03/tom-brady-josh-mcdaniels-yelling-video-patriots-bills
But that is just what we want.....some fire between a coach and his player. It seems to me that the Brady/McDaniel combo has worked pretty darn good over the years....and a little debate between them certainly is not indicative of an inability to "handle" a big ego. They handled each others egos together to the tune of Yay many Super Bowl rings.
But that is just what we want.....some fire
I'm all for hiring Brady as HC.
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I'm not saying McD wouldn't bring his "vision" to this team. Is that something you can get grown men to buy into is a different story. He has a history of failure at that part along with personnel evaluation. NOT an ideal combination.
And until Baker displays some selfless type leadership when under severe duress, I remain skeptical. Our QB did not acquit himself well this past season in that category.
I'm not saying McD wouldn't bring his "vision" to this team. Is that something you can get grown men to buy into is a different story. He has a history of failure at that part along with personnel evaluation. NOT an ideal combination.
And until Baker displays some selfless type leadership when under severe duress, I remain skeptical. Our QB did not acquit himself well this past season in that category.
Tia, I like some of the points you've made. That said, what makes you so sure there were grown men to coach in Denver at the time? He didn't get hired in Denver because they were playing like grown men. He got hired because they had a bunch of guys that couldn't win a pillow fight in a sorority house.
You are correct that he wasn't ready for life outside of Brady and BB at the time. I was one of his biggest critics after that. That said, this isn't just 2 weeks later. I LIKE how he's a very important part of NE getting a lot of productivity out of the situational guys they've relied on in recent years. While we know how hands-on BB is - he's also very demanding of his Assistant Coaches especially his Coordinators. I know many people think their WR Corps disappointed them and they're right to an extent. However, it isn't all that different than it's ever been. Okay, so they looked to Danny Amendola to team up with Edelman instead of the guys they chose this year. IMO the change they never overcame was the loss of Gronk for all 16 games and the post season (as opposed to losing him for games to nagging injuries in year's past). He was their X-factor. In saying all this, how terrible is a 12-4 record? Must be nice to be able to complain about 12-4 football eh?
You made a comment somewhere that you think Stefanski is a better leader of men but all evidence I'm seeing shows his employer assigned him a baby sitter as recently as Gary Kubiak for the 2019 season.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I'm not saying McD wouldn't bring his "vision" to this team. Is that something you can get grown men to buy into is a different story. He has a history of failure at that part along with personnel evaluation. NOT an ideal combination.
And until Baker displays some selfless type leadership when under severe duress, I remain skeptical. Our QB did not acquit himself well this past season in that category.
Tia, I like some of the points you've made. That said, what makes you so sure there were grown men to coach in Denver at the time? He didn't get hired in Denver because they were playing like grown men. He got hired because they had a bunch of guys that couldn't win a pillow fight in a sorority house.
You are correct that he wasn't ready for life outside of Brady and BB at the time. I was one of his biggest critics after that. That said, this isn't just 2 weeks later. I LIKE how he's a very important part of NE getting a lot of productivity out of the situational guys they've relied on in recent years. While we know how hands-on BB is - he's also very demanding of his Assistant Coaches especially his Coordinators. I know many people think their WR Corps disappointed them and they're right to an extent. However, it isn't all that different than it's ever been. Okay, so they looked to Danny Amendola to team up with Edelman instead of the guys they chose this year. IMO the change they never overcame was the loss of Gronk for all 16 games and the post season (as opposed to losing him for games to nagging injuries in year's past). He was their X-factor. In saying all this, how terrible is a 12-4 record? Must be nice to be able to complain about 12-4 football eh?
You made a comment somewhere that you think Stefanski is a better leader of men but all evidence I'm seeing shows his employer assigned him a baby sitter as recently as Gary Kubiak for the 2019 season.
That said, what makes you so sure there were grown men to coach in Denver at the time? He didn't get hired in Denver because they were playing like grown men. He got hired because they had a bunch of guys that couldn't win a pillow fight in a sorority house
OMG. LOL. Now I can go make some cowboy coffee....
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Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll....
I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants...
at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.
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Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side.
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Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll....
I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants...
at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.
Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll....
I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants...
at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.
This dude is going to have to get a restraining order against cal.
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