So, who would you pick as the next HC ?
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The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background, thus blowing the heads of the MAGA crowd, does strike my funny bone as delicious.
The idea of the Browns hiring a guy who most likely comes from a Muslim background
...no wonder his defense terrorizes opposing offenses.
I wouldn't mind a HC from the defensive side of the ball. At least you know that there will be an OC.
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I like interviewing a young guy. I don't expect Swartz suddenly becoming Paul Brown, for example.
But what do you consider more insane, having 6 kids... Or interviewing for a HC position in the Browns?
ooh... good question.
On one hand, six kids will kill your will to live. On the other hand, being the HC of the Browns will kill your will to live and your head coaching career.
ooh... good question.
On one hand, six kids will kill your will to live. On the other hand, being the HC of the Browns will kill your will to live and your head coaching career.
6 kids may also make you work your butt off at any given job just to stay away from home as much as possible and 'provide'.
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Robert Saleh from the 49ers is my guess to be the next HC. Ed Dobbs from the Colts to be next GM . If Josh McDaniels was going to be the HC he probably would have been given the job after his interview. Saleh seems to carry a hard nose attitude that this team desperately needs. Its possible that he would bring assistants from the 49ers on the offensive side.
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Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll....
I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants...
at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.
Well, given a choice between McDaniels or Daboll....
I'd pick Kris Richard as my next head coach. I don't get why he didn't get an interview with the Browns. Did with the Giants...
at least, hope he ends up with the Browns as an assistant coach.
He won't be hired, he pronounces his name like he is French: Ree-shard. He don't look French. He probably pronounces the game "futbol" and calls it "footie". Besides, his name seems to close to Keith Richards. And, I mean, come on. Keith Richards as your football coach?
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Just got an ESPN alert that Stefanski will be the guy.
Just got an ESPN alert that Stefanski will be the guy.
Fuck me.
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Your funny bone is your head? Out of Stefanski, McDaniels, Swartz and Saleh, the latter has less 'cons' in my opinion.
McDaniels ans Swartz are great coordinators but we need a head coach.
Saleh has busted his ass getting to the point of being interviewed for head coaching jobs, has worked under some great football minds, has three seasons experience as a coordinator. The guy is super smart too. On the flip side, he's never been a head coach on any level, and at 40 years old, has six children. He's obviously insane.
Saleh has busted his ass getting to the point of being interviewed for head coaching jobs, has worked under some great football minds, has three seasons experience as a coordinator. The guy is super smart too. On the flip side, he's never been a head coach on any level, and at 40 years old, has six children. He's obviously insane.
So? with 6 kids does that mean he is Catholic and not Muslim? Or are those 6 kids with his 3-4 wives?
(Too far?)
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Just got an ESPN alert that Stefanski will be the guy.
Fuck me.
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I'm completely apathetic to this.
At least it isn't Daboll, I guess.
There ya go...
Buck up, big guy...
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I'm completely apathetic to this.
At least it isn't Daboll, I guess.
There ya go...
Buck up, big guy...
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I'm not saying McD wouldn't bring his "vision" to this team. Is that something you can get grown men to buy into is a different story. He has a history of failure at that part along with personnel evaluation. NOT an ideal combination.
And until Baker displays some selfless type leadership when under severe duress, I remain skeptical. Our QB did not acquit himself well this past season in that category.
Tia, I like some of the points you've made. That said, what makes you so sure there were grown men to coach in Denver at the time? He didn't get hired in Denver because they were playing like grown men. He got hired because they had a bunch of guys that couldn't win a pillow fight in a sorority house.
You are correct that he wasn't ready for life outside of Brady and BB at the time. I was one of his biggest critics after that. That said, this isn't just 2 weeks later. I LIKE how he's a very important part of NE getting a lot of productivity out of the situational guys they've relied on in recent years. While we know how hands-on BB is - he's also very demanding of his Assistant Coaches especially his Coordinators. I know many people think their WR Corps disappointed them and they're right to an extent. However, it isn't all that different than it's ever been. Okay, so they looked to Danny Amendola to team up with Edelman instead of the guys they chose this year. IMO the change they never overcame was the loss of Gronk for all 16 games and the post season (as opposed to losing him for games to nagging injuries in year's past). He was their X-factor. In saying all this, how terrible is a 12-4 record? Must be nice to be able to complain about 12-4 football eh?
You made a comment somewhere that you think Stefanski is a better leader of men but all evidence I'm seeing shows his employer assigned him a baby sitter as recently as Gary Kubiak for the 2019 season.
Tia, I like some of the points you've made. That said, what makes you so sure there were grown men to coach in Denver at the time? He didn't get hired in Denver because they were playing like grown men. He got hired because they had a bunch of guys that couldn't win a pillow fight in a sorority house.
You are correct that he wasn't ready for life outside of Brady and BB at the time. I was one of his biggest critics after that. That said, this isn't just 2 weeks later. I LIKE how he's a very important part of NE getting a lot of productivity out of the situational guys they've relied on in recent years. While we know how hands-on BB is - he's also very demanding of his Assistant Coaches especially his Coordinators. I know many people think their WR Corps disappointed them and they're right to an extent. However, it isn't all that different than it's ever been. Okay, so they looked to Danny Amendola to team up with Edelman instead of the guys they chose this year. IMO the change they never overcame was the loss of Gronk for all 16 games and the post season (as opposed to losing him for games to nagging injuries in year's past). He was their X-factor. In saying all this, how terrible is a 12-4 record? Must be nice to be able to complain about 12-4 football eh?
You made a comment somewhere that you think Stefanski is a better leader of men but all evidence I'm seeing shows his employer assigned him a baby sitter as recently as Gary Kubiak for the 2019 season.
God love ya, bubs. You have to be carpel tunner like a MF from all the typing.
Denver at the time was similar to the 2010 Niners. They had some talent, but they needed coaching and direction. Doesn't mean they lacked quality players or "grown men" in the locker room. Gipper is right, Denver had some solid draftees sans TT. But for an offensive minded HC and alleged QB guru to draft Tim Tebow and proceed to dismantle then ship off talent that had formed an explosive NFL offense at one point, all in the name of his ego, is downright criminal.
I think Stefanksi is better with his players on the field, in the meeting rooms, etc etc. Every good coach has a near sort of 'father figure' about them. Even BB. I don't see that with McD and if the guy is as belligerent of an asshole as rumors say, then I doubt my assessment is wrong. Plus Stef has never thrown his players under the bus to my knowledge... which McD has done and will most likely do again. I guess I just don't give anyone the chance to burn me again.
Now after some thought, would I have preferred Saleh, and some members of the Shanny staff to help mold this offense? Yes. And despite the announcement this morning, that is probably the route I would have gone as team President/GM/owner/whatever. I'm just hoping for the best. But if Kubiak isn't coming with Stef, then I have early concerns.
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Well, if it is Saleh, he's an excellent guy. Muslim...I don't care. He is just a terrific regular American guy.
His brother was nearly murdered in the Towers on 9/11. I don't care about his private politics, whatever they are.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/06/06/robert-saleh-49ers-defensive-coordinator-arab-american
if it is Stephanski... that might very well be a great hire. Helping bring the vikes to the playoffs... I'm good.
I believe it's the players they had that held them back.
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Who was the other person who voted for Stefanski?
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I would’ve gone for Schwartz
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Zombo said:
I want Stefanski, and I expect it to leak out after this game that it is him. Andrew Berry returns to be the GM.
Going Ivy League again!
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TGZ
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Any blame for any failure commited during Stefanski's tenure will fall onto him.
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So we are talking about January 2021? Hopefully McDaniels will still be available.
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