Soldiering On. GM/OC/DC choices
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This George Paton (one t) is currently asst. GM for the Vikings. He and Stefanski have worked together for the Vikings for 13 years.
If this is a case of the coach picking the GM, then that would make some sense.
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Dustin Fox 10:49 am, 1/13/20
"I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."
Keith Britton 10:59 am, 1/13/20
"I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview."
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Dustin Fox 10:49 am, 1/13/20
"I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."
Keith Britton 10:59 am, 1/13/20
"I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview."
"I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."
Fool me once... etc., etc.
"I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview."
Was that the case in KC as well?
I guess "mutual decision to part ways" doesn't mean what it used to...
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Dustin Fox 10:49 am, 1/13/20
"I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."
Keith Britton 10:59 am, 1/13/20
"I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview."
Dustin Fox 10:49 am, 1/13/20
"I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."
Again....goes back to who is interviewing who? Are the Browns interviewing him for GM, or is he interviewing them for whether or not he would want to work here again. If he has multiple options, as you seem to indicate, I would say it is the latter.
Keith Britton 10:59 am, 1/13/20
"I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview."
Well, Maybe both of the above reports have a lot to do with the George Paton consideration. While maybe few others may want to come here, Paton may want to continue working with his long time colleague, Stefanski.
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Dustin Fox 10:49 am, 1/13/20
"I'm told there is league-wide interest in Andrew Berry. He does not HAVE to take the Browns GM position. He has options and is also weary (of the Browns) based off what happened in the past."
Again....goes back to who is interviewing who? Are the Browns interviewing him for GM, or is he interviewing them for whether or not he would want to work here again. If he has multiple options, as you seem to indicate, I would say it is the latter.
Keith Britton 10:59 am, 1/13/20
"I've also been told the respect John Dorsey carries in the scouting circles is something that has impacted how many potential GMs feel/would have felt about taking an interview."
Well, Maybe both of the above reports have a lot to do with the George Paton consideration. While maybe few others may want to come here, Paton may want to continue working with his long time colleague, Stefanski.
To be fair, Fox was tweeting late last night that he thinks Berry will take the Browns GM job.
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Either The team quit on Wilks or his scheme is awful or both. There was time before Christmas I thought he would be the fall guy and get axed and Freddie would stay on for one year.
i think there is a .0001% chance that Wilks is in Cleveland
Either The team quit on Wilks or his scheme is awful or both. There was time before Christmas I thought he would be the fall guy and get axed and Freddie would stay on for one year.
i think there is a .0001% chance that Wilks is in Cleveland
All I can say is look how much better KC's D has gotten this year than last. He needs to go.
I hate to even THINK it, but I have an awful feeling that Wilks may be retained. ?
Mike
Holy Mary mother of Jesus let that not be so. Amen.?
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fwiw
My computer protection says this is a known malicious website. Careful where you tread. I don't know why it said it because it's cbs, unless somehow something jumped in on them.
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To be fair, Fox was tweeting late last night that he thinks Berry will take the Browns GM job.
To be fair, Fox was tweeting late last night that he thinks Berry will take the Browns GM job.
Goes to show you....that with these reports one guy says black and the other says white. Who knows what to believe until an actual announcement is made.
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We should have a gm about a week before the draft...give or take a few days. Draft tips coming from local hobos in front of area businesses. Its all coming together!!
We should have a gm about a week before the draft...give or take a few days. Draft tips coming from local hobos in front of area businesses. Its all coming together!!
Sign up with Dutch for some fairness lessons...
Be it Berry or the Vikes' Asst GM or another so long as we don't hire the hobo then we're getting a guy from a franchise who has been... WAIT FOR IT... working on the draft. So not only will we get a GM who knows this draft class but brings the perspective of a different organization... and that ain't bad.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Looking around...two names:
Kevin OConnell sp?
and Jim Caldwell.
offensive coordinator for the Browns.
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Man.... I don’t know if Wilks is all that bad.
His all pro DE center piece of his defense gets bounced. The only other pass rusher on the other side of the ball (Vernon) can’t stay on the field, Your GM traded away any DE depth you had for a worthless safety and a 4th round pick leaving you with no names, half the games Ward played this year he looked like he couldn’t cover a JV WR, Redwine looked lost out there at times....
Not going to say I’ll be upset if they move on, but I’ll take Wilks defense over Ray Horton or O’Neil’s
Man.... I don’t know if Wilks is all that bad.
His all pro DE center piece of his defense gets bounced. The only other pass rusher on the other side of the ball (Vernon) can’t stay on the field, Your GM traded away any DE depth you had for a worthless safety and a 4th round pick leaving you with no names, half the games Ward played this year he looked like he couldn’t cover a JV WR, Redwine looked lost out there at times....
Not going to say I’ll be upset if they move on, but I’ll take Wilks defense over Ray Horton or O’Neil’s
If your two pass rushing ends aren't on the field wouldn't you scheme to blitz more to get pressure on the qb? Or maybe put 3 linebackers on the field since your run d also took a big hit without those two?
What defensive end did our gm trade away for a worthless safety and 4th round pick? Im assuming the 4th round pick you're referring to is avery trade. If so, he is linebacker depth not defense end depth.
The other I'm assuming is the trade for Eric Murray. Yes ogbah would have provided depth (especially knowing vernon has been often injured the last couple years) but murray is far from a worthless safety. He provided both nickel and safety depth and everyone knows wilkes loves his db's (see refusal to put more than 2 linebackers on the field). Murray got hurt which is a knock on him this year, but wasn't recurring theme prior to this year. Sometimes injuries just happen and are part of the game. For example Emanuel ogbah got injured week 10 this year and missed the rest of the season (so I don't know how much he would have helped depth this year). The reason that guy (redwine) that looked lost out there was even on the field was because he was drafted to be a special teamer early in his career while he learned but was forced into action due to injury to Murray. If that "worthless safety" wasn't on the team redwine would have been forced into action by like week 5.
Ward definitely has ouchie concerns and regressed this year, but don't know if it was as bad as you say. Though I admit he did regress, but isn't that on the DC? He was not scheming to fit his two press man corners. He was trying to fit two press man corners into his mostly zone coverage scheme and when they did play man they bailed off the line 70% of the time and let receivers get free releases.
As far as taking wilks over horton hears a who or O'Neil. That's not saying much. It's like saying I would take the (insert NFL team) qbs the past 10 years over the browns qbs the past 10 years.
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We should have a gm about a week before the draft...give or take a few days. Draft tips coming from local hobos in front of area businesses. Its all coming together!!
Sign up with Dutch for some fairness lessons...
Be it Berry or the Vikes' Asst GM or another so long as we don't hire the hobo then we're getting a guy from a franchise who has been... WAIT FOR IT... working on the draft. So not only will we get a GM who knows this draft class but brings the perspective of a different organization... and that ain't bad.
Sign up with Dutch for some fairness lessons...
Do you think Paulie DePodesta cradles Con Man Jimmy's balls while he strokes him off?
How's that for some fairness?
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Do you think Paulie DePodesta cradles Con Man Jimmy's balls while he strokes him off?
How's that for some fairness?
What... can't take a compliment?
I'm determined to play nice today... so do your damnedest.
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I don't know........ I'm thinkin Joe Woods.... maybe. Although... with Wilks there would be some continuity.
Joe Woods.
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Looking around...two names:
Kevin OConnell sp?
and Jim Caldwell.
offensive coordinator for the Browns.
Looking around...two names:
Kevin OConnell sp?
and Jim Caldwell.
offensive coordinator for the Browns.
I thought O'Connell was already snatched up by the Rams. That was what was reported on here when it was said that, if McD got the job, he would bring him with him, but now couldn't because he was taken.
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Looking around...two names:
Kevin OConnell sp?
and Jim Caldwell.
offensive coordinator for the Browns.
I thought O'Connell was already snatched up by the Rams. That was what was reported on here when it was said that, if McD got the job, he would bring him with him, but now couldn't because he was taken.
I thought O'Connell was already snatched up by the Rams. That was what was reported on here when it was said that, if McD got the job, he would bring him with him, but now couldn't because he was taken.
yep, pretty much a done deal, I guess.
Report: Kevin O'Connell, Brandon Staley Finalizing Rams Contracts as New OC, DC
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