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    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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    BTW, for your further entertainment... Like in the Wizard of Oz here's the "man behind the curtain".. ๐Ÿ™‚ย ย 

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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      Good presser for Stef... not as authoritative as Rodgers' NYG intro, but a solid presser giving a sense that there's a backbone there.

      Approach of essentially preparing formal lesson plans for each player is not one I've heard before.

      Agree with h that it was refreshing to see a well-groomed HC at the podium... and I'll add that it was good to see a fit one as well.

      Best part for me was the Truman quote: "It's amazing what you can accomplish when no one cares who gets the credit."

      "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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        BTW, for your further entertainment... Like in the Wizard of Oz here's the "man behind the curtain".. ๐Ÿ™‚ย ย 

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        @hoorta said:

        for your further entertainment education...

        FIFMOYPA*

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        "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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          BTW, for your further entertainment... Like in the Wizard of Oz here's the "man behind the curtain".. ๐Ÿ™‚ย ย 

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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by hoorta
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          Like in the Wizard of Oz here's the "man behind the curtain".. ๐Ÿ™‚ย ย 

          And that's how you command a presser...

          Impressive.

          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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            BTW, for your further entertainment... Like in the Wizard of Oz here's the "man behind the curtain".. ๐Ÿ™‚ย ย 

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            @hoorta said:

            BTW, for your further entertainment... Like in the Wizard of Oz here's the "man behind the curtain".. ๐Ÿ™‚ย ย 

            He lost a lot of weight.ย 

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              Good presser for Stef... not as authoritative as Rodgers' NYG intro, but a solid presser giving a sense that there's a backbone there.

              Approach of essentially preparing formal lesson plans for each player is not one I've heard before.

              Agree with h that it was refreshing to see a well-groomed HC at the podium... and I'll add that it was good to see a fit one as well.

              Best part for me was the Truman quote: "It's amazing what you can accomplish when no one cares who gets the credit."

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              @tour2ma said:

              Good presser for Stef... not as authoritative as Rodgers' NYG intro, but a solid presser giving a sense that there's a backbone there.

              Approach of essentially preparing formal lesson plans for each player is not one I've heard before.

              Agree with h that it was refreshing to see a well-groomed HC at the podium... and I'll add that it was good to see a fit one as well.

              This could come off as discriminatory.ย  But, OK.ย  What it implies is that unlike Ferd who has no apparent discipline in his personal habits and grooming, ....which seemed to also translate to his coaching duties,ย  ย this well groomed, disciplined guy will be the sameย  with his coaching.

              Best part for me was the Truman quote: "It's amazing what you can accomplish when no one cares who gets the credit."

              We could use a man like Harry Truman again.ย  (and I don't mean as Browns HC)

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                @hoorta said:

                Like in the Wizard of Oz here's the "man behind the curtain".. ๐Ÿ™‚ย ย 

                And that's how you command a presser...

                Impressive.

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                @tour2ma said:

                And that's how you command a presser...

                Impressive.

                Let's just say that presserย changed my perception of what DePo is about. Especially- still learning and I (we) the analytics folks don't have all the answers. Pretty humble for a numbers nerd.ย  ๐Ÿ™‚ย 

                Finallyย got it- "we're dealing in probabilities".ย ย ย And we're not going to cram numbers down the coaching staffs throats. Like here they are- use them as you see fit. Easy to see why Dorsey is now out- too old school to see the light.ย 

                I did love that question "what exactly do you do?"ย  ย 

                And some of that (per Keven) about those reported meetings with Haslam was uninformed BS.ย 

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                  @tour2ma said:

                  And that's how you command a presser...

                  Impressive.

                  Let's just say that presserย changed my perception of what DePo is about. Especially- still learning and I (we) the analytics folks don't have all the answers. Pretty humble for a numbers nerd.ย  ๐Ÿ™‚ย 

                  Finallyย got it- "we're dealing in probabilities".ย ย ย And we're not going to cram numbers down the coaching staffs throats. Like here they are- use them as you see fit. Easy to see why Dorsey is now out- too old school to see the light.ย 

                  I did love that question "what exactly do you do?"ย  ย 

                  And some of that (per Keven) about those reported meetings with Haslam was uninformed BS.ย 

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                  bjh2130B bjh2130 wrote on last edited by bjh2130
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                  And some of that๏ปฟ (per Keven) about those reported meetings with Haslam was uninformed ๏ปฟBS๏ปฟ

                  I don't know if I believe they were bs.ย  Schefter said he was told by more than one coach who interviewed about the stipulations and doerschuck is pretty tight with mcdaniels and seems to be his go to reporter. So either those coaches/reporters were lying, or stefanski (who has been analytics pick two years running) wasn't given the same stipulation as other coaches. ย A finalย and the most likely option in my mindย knowing how poorly Jimmy deals with criticism is that he saw the backlash and either backed off his requirements or just told his new coach to deny. I mean ifย he did agree to those terms (and come off as a yes man) is he going to disobey the very first order he gets from Haslam.

                  They did go from one of their main goals being to hire a guy with head coaching experience to having their two finalist (according to schefter only two guys who agreed to meetings etc) be Saleh and Stefanski, neither of whom have head coaching experience. So is schefter misinformed and those two guys just blew everyone out of the water, making browns pass on one of their main goals. Or were the browns forced to pass on one of their main goals because no experienced head coach would agree to the requirements the browns placed on them.ย 

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                    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                    A professional presser.ย  I like him.ย  But it's VERY early in the game.

                    Good Luck Kevin!

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                      Stephanski nailed it. He's far, far smarter and cooler than arrogant self centered Hue, and Good ole boy Kitchens.

                      Kevin seems like the right hc.

                      "Analytics is just a tool".

                      I love that. and, he has a fine sense of humor in how he answered the usual stupid questions from "reporters" like MKC and a few others.

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                        My Best Friend is in Heaven.

                        He was a life-long Vikings fan.ย  And because I liked the Browns, he liked the Browns.ย  He watched them, he'd talk Browns with me, text Browns with me, etc.ย  And it didn't matter if we were 0-16, he would talk Browns with me.ย  (who does that?)

                        He and I watched together on TV the Browns - Vikings game in London.....not knowing that within a month he would be gone.ย  (he brought the coffee and I supplied the breakfast pastries)

                        I'm going on the premise that he sent us Stefanski, each year, until we hired him because Kevin Stefanski is FINALLY the guy to bring stability to the Browns.

                        .....I sure do miss him....

                        Go Browns!

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                          And if you don't listen to the whole thing at least spend a minute with this piece of the presser...

                          Especially you, Dutch...

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                          @tour2ma said:

                          And if you don't listen to the whole thing at least spend a minute with this piece of the presser...

                          Especially you, Dutch...

                          Did he mention how excited he is at the prospect of getting paid for five year's worth of work, but only having to work 2 years?ย 

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                            I wasn't at all enthused about the Freddie hire. I like this guy.. I'm optimistic ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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                              @tour2ma said:

                              And if you don't listen to the whole thing at least spend a minute with this piece of the presser...

                              Especially you, Dutch...

                              Did he mention how excited he is at the prospect of getting paid for five year's worth of work, but only having to work 2 years?ย 

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                              @dutch-oven said:

                              Did he mention how excited he is at the prospect of getting paid for five year's worth of work, but only having to work 2 years?ย 

                              That kind of thing goes without saying... I know... it was only two years of free money in my case, but I took it... and retired.

                              Don't you feel better knowing there's no Friday "Analytics" meeting?

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                                @dutch-oven said:

                                Did he mention how excited he is at the prospect of getting paid for five year's worth of work, but only having to work 2 years?ย 

                                That kind of thing goes without saying... I know... it was only two years of free money in my case, but I took it... and retired.

                                Don't you feel better knowing there's no Friday "Analytics" meeting?

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                                Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                                @tour2ma said:

                                That kind of thing goes without saying... I know... it was only two years of free money in my case, but I took it... and retired.

                                Don't you feel better knowing there's no Friday "Analytics" meeting?

                                Nope.

                                This was all a sham.ย 

                                We'll be doing this same song and dance in 3 years tops. I say three years because I'm convinced DePodesta has photos of Jimmy blowing goats.ย 

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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  That kind of thing goes without saying... I know... it was only two years of free money in my case, but I took it... and retired.

                                  Don't you feel better knowing there's no Friday "Analytics" meeting?

                                  Nope.

                                  This was all a sham.ย 

                                  We'll be doing this same song and dance in 3 years tops. I say three years because I'm convinced DePodesta has photos of Jimmy blowing goats.ย 

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                                  @dutch-oven said:

                                  We'll be doing this same song and dance in 3 years tops.

                                  There's a wager in our future... up to you whether it's friendly or not.

                                  "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                                    Meanwhile the reviews are in...

                                    Did Kevin Stefanski win his first press conference with the Cleveland Browns?

                                    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/did-kevin-stefanski-win-his-first-press-conference-with-the-cleveland-browns.html

                                    Here's my favorite reply...

                                    Hayden Grove: The Browns move to 9-1 in introductory head coach press conferences since 1999, with Pat Shurmur remaining the lone loss. That said, Stefanskiโ€™s performance was impressive, especially given the general disenchantment from the Browns fan base upon his hiring. Maybe it was his piercing eyes or full, salt-and-pepper beard, but Stefanski made a statement on Tuesday, displaying intelligence, humility, confidence and a seeming willingness to put winning and working ahead of all.

                                    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                                      I wasn't at all enthused about the Freddie hire. I like this guy.. I'm optimistic ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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                                      @axe said:

                                      I wasn't at all enthused about the Freddie hire. I like this guy.. I'm optimistic ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                                      I won't lie, I liked the Freddie hire. I bought into the second half of the season and how we played better and almost stuck it to Baltimore at the end. We played fast, together, and had fun. Boy was I wrong.ย 

                                      Now, there's no such thing as "winning an press conference" but I sure liked what this guy had to say!ย 

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                                        Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                                        Admittedly, I previously had an ignorant perception of analytics & this hire. I learned a hell of a lot after listening to both Stefanski's & DePodesta's pressers. Both gave me "meat & potatoes" answers that were easily understood & professionally/intelligently presented.

                                        Color me "SOLD". I want to see the rest of the staff (officially), but Jimmy (who has always wanted a winner & been willing to change) may have hit on these 2 guys.

                                        Mike

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                                          @hoorta said:

                                          BTW, for your further entertainment... Like in the Wizard of Oz here's the "man behind the curtain".. ๐Ÿ™‚ย ย 

                                          He lost a lot of weight.ย 

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                                          He lost a lot of weight.ย 

                                          You ainโ€™t lying.... I heard he is on that Rob Lowe Atkins thing

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