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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @hoorta said:

    Like in the Wizard of Oz here's the "man behind the curtain".. šŸ™‚Ā Ā 

    And that's how you command a presser...

    Impressive.

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    @tour2ma said:

    And that's how you command a presser...

    Impressive.

    Let's just say that presserĀ changed my perception of what DePo is about. Especially- still learning and I (we) the analytics folks don't have all the answers. Pretty humble for a numbers nerd.Ā  šŸ™‚Ā 

    FinallyĀ got it- "we're dealing in probabilities".Ā Ā Ā And we're not going to cram numbers down the coaching staffs throats. Like here they are- use them as you see fit. Easy to see why Dorsey is now out- too old school to see the light.Ā 

    I did love that question "what exactly do you do?"Ā  Ā 

    And some of that (per Keven) about those reported meetings with Haslam was uninformed BS.Ā 

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      @tour2ma said:

      And that's how you command a presser...

      Impressive.

      Let's just say that presserĀ changed my perception of what DePo is about. Especially- still learning and I (we) the analytics folks don't have all the answers. Pretty humble for a numbers nerd.Ā  šŸ™‚Ā 

      FinallyĀ got it- "we're dealing in probabilities".Ā Ā Ā And we're not going to cram numbers down the coaching staffs throats. Like here they are- use them as you see fit. Easy to see why Dorsey is now out- too old school to see the light.Ā 

      I did love that question "what exactly do you do?"Ā  Ā 

      And some of that (per Keven) about those reported meetings with Haslam was uninformed BS.Ā 

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      @hoorta said:

      And some of that (per Keven) about those reported meetings with Haslam was uninformed BS

      I don't know if I believe they were bs.Ā  Schefter said he was told by more than one coach who interviewed about the stipulations and doerschuck is pretty tight with mcdaniels and seems to be his go to reporter. So either those coaches/reporters were lying, or stefanski (who has been analytics pick two years running) wasn't given the same stipulation as other coaches. Ā A finalĀ and the most likely option in my mindĀ knowing how poorly Jimmy deals with criticism is that he saw the backlash and either backed off his requirements or just told his new coach to deny. I mean ifĀ he did agree to those terms (and come off as a yes man) is he going to disobey the very first order he gets from Haslam.

      They did go from one of their main goals being to hire a guy with head coaching experience to having their two finalist (according to schefter only two guys who agreed to meetings etc) be Saleh and Stefanski, neither of whom have head coaching experience. So is schefter misinformed and those two guys just blew everyone out of the water, making browns pass on one of their main goals. Or were the browns forced to pass on one of their main goals because no experienced head coach would agree to the requirements the browns placed on them.Ā 

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        A professional presser.Ā  I like him.Ā  But it's VERY early in the game.

        Good Luck Kevin!

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          Stephanski nailed it. He's far, far smarter and cooler than arrogant self centered Hue, and Good ole boy Kitchens.

          Kevin seems like the right hc.

          "Analytics is just a tool".

          I love that. and, he has a fine sense of humor in how he answered the usual stupid questions from "reporters" like MKC and a few others.

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            OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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            My Best Friend is in Heaven.

            He was a life-long Vikings fan.Ā  And because I liked the Browns, he liked the Browns.Ā  He watched them, he'd talk Browns with me, text Browns with me, etc.Ā  And it didn't matter if we were 0-16, he would talk Browns with me.Ā  (who does that?)

            He and I watched together on TV the Browns - Vikings game in London.....not knowing that within a month he would be gone.Ā  (he brought the coffee and I supplied the breakfast pastries)

            I'm going on the premise that he sent us Stefanski, each year, until we hired him because Kevin Stefanski is FINALLY the guy to bring stability to the Browns.

            .....I sure do miss him....

            Go Browns!

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              And if you don't listen to the whole thing at least spend a minute with this piece of the presser...

              Especially you, Dutch...

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              Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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              @tour2ma said:

              And if you don't listen to the whole thing at least spend a minute with this piece of the presser...

              Especially you, Dutch...

              Did he mention how excited he is at the prospect of getting paid for five year's worth of work, but only having to work 2 years?Ā 

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                AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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                I wasn't at all enthused about the Freddie hire. I like this guy.. I'm optimistic šŸ˜Ž

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                  @tour2ma said:

                  And if you don't listen to the whole thing at least spend a minute with this piece of the presser...

                  Especially you, Dutch...

                  Did he mention how excited he is at the prospect of getting paid for five year's worth of work, but only having to work 2 years?Ā 

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  Did he mention how excited he is at the prospect of getting paid for five year's worth of work, but only having to work 2 years?Ā 

                  That kind of thing goes without saying... I know... it was only two years of free money in my case, but I took it... and retired.

                  Don't you feel better knowing there's no Friday "Analytics" meeting?

                  "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    Did he mention how excited he is at the prospect of getting paid for five year's worth of work, but only having to work 2 years?Ā 

                    That kind of thing goes without saying... I know... it was only two years of free money in my case, but I took it... and retired.

                    Don't you feel better knowing there's no Friday "Analytics" meeting?

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                    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                    @tour2ma said:

                    That kind of thing goes without saying... I know... it was only two years of free money in my case, but I took it... and retired.

                    Don't you feel better knowing there's no Friday "Analytics" meeting?

                    Nope.

                    This was all a sham.Ā 

                    We'll be doing this same song and dance in 3 years tops. I say three years because I'm convinced DePodesta has photos of Jimmy blowing goats.Ā 

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                      @tour2ma said:

                      That kind of thing goes without saying... I know... it was only two years of free money in my case, but I took it... and retired.

                      Don't you feel better knowing there's no Friday "Analytics" meeting?

                      Nope.

                      This was all a sham.Ā 

                      We'll be doing this same song and dance in 3 years tops. I say three years because I'm convinced DePodesta has photos of Jimmy blowing goats.Ā 

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      We'll be doing this same song and dance in 3 years tops.

                      There's a wager in our future... up to you whether it's friendly or not.

                      "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        Meanwhile the reviews are in...

                        Did Kevin Stefanski win his first press conference with the Cleveland Browns?

                        https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/did-kevin-stefanski-win-his-first-press-conference-with-the-cleveland-browns.html

                        Here's my favorite reply...

                        Hayden Grove: The Browns move to 9-1 in introductory head coach press conferences since 1999, with Pat Shurmur remaining the lone loss. That said, Stefanski’s performance was impressive, especially given the general disenchantment from the Browns fan base upon his hiring. Maybe it was his piercing eyes or full, salt-and-pepper beard, but Stefanski made a statement on Tuesday, displaying intelligence, humility, confidence and a seeming willingness to put winning and working ahead of all.

                        "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                          I wasn't at all enthused about the Freddie hire. I like this guy.. I'm optimistic šŸ˜Ž

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                          jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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                          @axe said:

                          I wasn't at all enthused about the Freddie hire. I like this guy.. I'm optimistic šŸ˜Ž

                          I won't lie, I liked the Freddie hire. I bought into the second half of the season and how we played better and almost stuck it to Baltimore at the end. We played fast, together, and had fun. Boy was I wrong.Ā 

                          Now, there's no such thing as "winning an press conference" but I sure liked what this guy had to say!Ā 

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                            Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                            Admittedly, I previously had an ignorant perception of analytics & this hire. I learned a hell of a lot after listening to both Stefanski's & DePodesta's pressers. Both gave me "meat & potatoes" answers that were easily understood & professionally/intelligently presented.

                            Color me "SOLD". I want to see the rest of the staff (officially), but Jimmy (who has always wanted a winner & been willing to change) may have hit on these 2 guys.

                            Mike

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                              @hoorta said:

                              BTW, for your further entertainment... Like in the Wizard of Oz here's the "man behind the curtain".. šŸ™‚Ā Ā 

                              He lost a lot of weight.Ā 

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              He lost a lot of weight.Ā 

                              You ain’t lying.... I heard he is on that Rob Lowe Atkins thing

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                                Admittedly, I previously had an ignorant perception of analytics & this hire. I learned a hell of a lot after listening to both Stefanski's & DePodesta's pressers. Both gave me "meat & potatoes" answers that were easily understood & professionally/intelligently presented.

                                Color me "SOLD". I want to see the rest of the staff (officially), but Jimmy (who has always wanted a winner & been willing to change) may have hit on these 2 guys.

                                Mike

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                                @canton-mike said:

                                Color me "SOLD". I want to see the rest of the staff (officially), but Jimmy (who has always wanted a winner & been willing to change) may have hit on these 2 guys.

                                What sells me is looking at the seasons players like Kirk Cousins and Stefon Diggs had. Cousins had like the 4th best statistical season in the league and he's obviously not the 4th best QB. Diggs averaged 10 yards a catch 2 years ago and this year averaged 18. This has to do with Stefanski and his play-action passing game. They ran the ball a bunch and then passed out of running formations. Just like the 49's. We have the personnel to run it.Ā 

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                                  Admittedly, I previously had an ignorant perception of analytics & this hire. I learned a hell of a lot after listening to both Stefanski's & DePodesta's pressers. Both gave me "meat & potatoes" answers that were easily understood & professionally/intelligently presented.

                                  Color me "SOLD". I want to see the rest of the staff (officially), but Jimmy (who has always wanted a winner & been willing to change) may have hit on these 2 guys.

                                  Mike

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                                  @canton-mike said:

                                  Admittedly, I previously had an ignorant perception of analytics & this hire. I learned a hell of a lot after listening to both Stefanski's & DePodesta's pressers. Both gave me "meat & potatoes" answers that were easily understood & professionally/intelligently presented.

                                  Color me "SOLD". I want to see the rest of the staff (officially), but Jimmy (who has always wanted a winner & been willing to change) may have hit on these 2 guys.

                                  Mike

                                  you betcha......

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                                    It was the normal, neither good nor bad. Ā Haslam’s presser is what shook me. Ā The fact he owns a billion dollar business baffles me. Ā He seems like a dumb version of Jerry Jones and that is saying somethingĀ 

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                                      -ā€œmultipleā€ on offense. Ā I like it. Ā ā€œDynamic in the run gameā€. Yes!!! He has some tools to work with here

                                      -also hinted at using the playmakers weĀ have which something Kitchens failed at. Ā 
                                      Ā 

                                      -his system and systems he’s been working under are very QB friendly. Ā Great! Ā Putting Baker in shotgun and making him a playmaker - not his game at the professional level. Ā Baker had some of his best games last season throwing 30 passes all game. Ā 
                                      Ā 

                                      -my original criticism just one franchise one perspective for 14 years. Ā I’ve changed my mind I think it’s impressive that he’s held on and been with the same franchise through multiple regime changes. He’s left a good enough impression to be a holdoverĀ 
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                                      good start...now show us all the Browns finally got this rightĀ 

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                                        Meanwhile the reviews are in...

                                        Did Kevin Stefanski win his first press conference with the Cleveland Browns?

                                        https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/did-kevin-stefanski-win-his-first-press-conference-with-the-cleveland-browns.html

                                        Here's my favorite reply...

                                        Hayden Grove: The Browns move to 9-1 in introductory head coach press conferences since 1999, with Pat Shurmur remaining the lone loss. That said, Stefanski’s performance was impressive, especially given the general disenchantment from the Browns fan base upon his hiring. Maybe it was his piercing eyes or full, salt-and-pepper beard, but Stefanski made a statement on Tuesday, displaying intelligence, humility, confidence and a seeming willingness to put winning and working ahead of all.

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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Stefanski made a statement on Tuesday, displaying intelligence, humility, confidence and a seeming willingness to put winning and working ahead of all.

                                        The stage was not too big for him.Ā  He looks and sounds like a guy that you'd like as a face of your team.Ā  -Ā  I hope he's a good coach.Ā  We don't want any more 18 penalty games.

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                                          He's a likable guy, but this time, he has to prove it to me first.......... Sorry Kevin, it's not you, it's me.Ā 

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