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  •   Hunt is a more complete back.  Team him with Chubb and dominate for a decade.  Please pay them both.

    @skippinturtles said:

      Hunt is a more complete back.  Team him with Chubb and dominate for a decade.  Please pay them both.

    Come on man, good try with your trolling. But KC isn't going to do that trade, and your dominance has no merit. With both, the Browns went 4-4. 

    Just take the last 3 games (around the time he said people taking plays off).

    9 carries 26 yards, 15 catches 127 yards

    Want the whole season?

    43 carries 179 yards 2 TDs, 37 catches 285 yards 1 TD

    So an average of 5.4 Carries 22.4 yards, 4.6 catches 35.6 yards

    Care to compare to McCaffrey since you mentioned him?

    Average: 17.9 carries 86.9 yards, 7.3 catches 62.9 yards.

    Last 3 games: 41 carries 167 yards 3 TD, 30 catches 279 yards 

    Or let's look at the best season for each:

    KH: 272 carries 1327 yards 8 TD, 53 catches 455 yards 3 TDs

    CM: 287 carries 1387 yards 15 TD, 116 catches 1005 yards 4 tds

  • @skippinturtles said:

      Hunt is a more complete back.  Team him with Chubb and dominate for a decade.  Please pay them both.

    Come on man, good try with your trolling. But KC isn't going to do that trade, and your dominance has no merit. With both, the Browns went 4-4. 

    Just take the last 3 games (around the time he said people taking plays off).

    9 carries 26 yards, 15 catches 127 yards

    Want the whole season?

    43 carries 179 yards 2 TDs, 37 catches 285 yards 1 TD

    So an average of 5.4 Carries 22.4 yards, 4.6 catches 35.6 yards

    Care to compare to McCaffrey since you mentioned him?

    Average: 17.9 carries 86.9 yards, 7.3 catches 62.9 yards.

    Last 3 games: 41 carries 167 yards 3 TD, 30 catches 279 yards 

    Or let's look at the best season for each:

    KH: 272 carries 1327 yards 8 TD, 53 catches 455 yards 3 TDs

    CM: 287 carries 1387 yards 15 TD, 116 catches 1005 yards 4 tds

    @gunz41 said:

    Come on man, good try with your trolling. But KC isn't going to do that trade, and your dominance has no merit. With both, the Browns went 4-4. 

    Just take the last 3 games (around the time he said people taking plays off).

    9 carries 26 yards, 15 catches 127 yards

    Want the whole season?

    43 carries 179 yards 2 TDs, 37 catches 285 yards 1 TD

    So an average of 5.4 Carries 22.4 yards, 4.6 catches 35.6 yards

    Care to compare to McCaffrey since you mentioned him?

    Average: 17.9 carries 86.9 yards, 7.3 catches 62.9 yards.

    Last 3 games: 41 carries 167 yards 3 TD, 30 catches 279 yards 

    Or let's look at the best season for each:

    KH: 272 carries 1327 yards 8 TD, 53 catches 455 yards 3 TDs

    CM: 287 carries 1387 yards 15 TD, 116 catches 1005 yards 4 tds

    CM is white.  Outside of Riggins, white RB's don't last.

  • @gunz41 said:

    Come on man, good try with your trolling. But KC isn't going to do that trade, and your dominance has no merit. With both, the Browns went 4-4. 

    Just take the last 3 games (around the time he said people taking plays off).

    9 carries 26 yards, 15 catches 127 yards

    Want the whole season?

    43 carries 179 yards 2 TDs, 37 catches 285 yards 1 TD

    So an average of 5.4 Carries 22.4 yards, 4.6 catches 35.6 yards

    Care to compare to McCaffrey since you mentioned him?

    Average: 17.9 carries 86.9 yards, 7.3 catches 62.9 yards.

    Last 3 games: 41 carries 167 yards 3 TD, 30 catches 279 yards 

    Or let's look at the best season for each:

    KH: 272 carries 1327 yards 8 TD, 53 catches 455 yards 3 TDs

    CM: 287 carries 1387 yards 15 TD, 116 catches 1005 yards 4 tds

    CM is white.  Outside of Riggins, white RB's don't last.

    @skippinturtles said:

    CM is white.  Outside of Riggins, white RB's don't last.

    That is your reply? So when you cant refute it you just throw something random out?

    Ok, I'll bite. White RBs don't last. Neither do RBs who are caught on camera abusing women.

    But you obviously missed the entire point. How did they "dominating" go when the Browns already had the 2? But nobody ever said Hunt wasn't a good player. But his best year doesn't compare to just the one person I named. You talking about him makes him sound like the best back in the league.

    And please try and explain why the Chiefs would want to trade Hill for OBJ? What is the benefit for them?

  • @skippinturtles said:

    CM is white.  Outside of Riggins, white RB's don't last.

    That is your reply? So when you cant refute it you just throw something random out?

    Ok, I'll bite. White RBs don't last. Neither do RBs who are caught on camera abusing women.

    But you obviously missed the entire point. How did they "dominating" go when the Browns already had the 2? But nobody ever said Hunt wasn't a good player. But his best year doesn't compare to just the one person I named. You talking about him makes him sound like the best back in the league.

    And please try and explain why the Chiefs would want to trade Hill for OBJ? What is the benefit for them?

    @gunz41 said:

    That is your reply? So when you cant refute it you just throw something random out?

    Ok, I'll bite. White RBs don't last. Neither do RBs who are caught on camera abusing women.

    But you obviously missed the entire point. How did they "dominating" go when the Browns already had the 2? But nobody ever said Hunt wasn't a good player. But his best year doesn't compare to just the one person I named. You talking about him makes him sound like the best back in the league.

    And please try and explain why the Chiefs would want to trade Hill for OBJ? What is the benefit for them?

    I love Riggins.  White RB's historically don't last.  Jim Brown wasn't exactly a Boy Scout with women.  OBJ is great.  Tyreek is great and plays nasty.  Like Hunt.

  • @gunz41 said:

    Come on man, good try with your trolling. But KC isn't going to do that trade, and your dominance has no merit. With both, the Browns went 4-4. 

    Just take the last 3 games (around the time he said people taking plays off).

    9 carries 26 yards, 15 catches 127 yards

    Want the whole season?

    43 carries 179 yards 2 TDs, 37 catches 285 yards 1 TD

    So an average of 5.4 Carries 22.4 yards, 4.6 catches 35.6 yards

    Care to compare to McCaffrey since you mentioned him?

    Average: 17.9 carries 86.9 yards, 7.3 catches 62.9 yards.

    Last 3 games: 41 carries 167 yards 3 TD, 30 catches 279 yards 

    Or let's look at the best season for each:

    KH: 272 carries 1327 yards 8 TD, 53 catches 455 yards 3 TDs

    CM: 287 carries 1387 yards 15 TD, 116 catches 1005 yards 4 tds

    CM is white.  Outside of Riggins, white RB's don't last.

    @skippinturtles said:

    CM is white.  Outside of Riggins, white RB's don't last.

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

  • @skippinturtles said:

    CM is white.  Outside of Riggins, white RB's don't last.

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

    @the-gipper said:

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

    From the way he has posted, I think its ONLY because he is not named Kareem Hunt

  • @skippinturtles said:

    CM is white.  Outside of Riggins, white RB's don't last.

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

    @the-gipper said:

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

    I hope CM stays healthy.  Hunt just plays so tough.  Reid knows how good he is.  You know he was sad he left.  Hunt is a lot like Brian Westbrook.

  • @gunz41 said:

    That is your reply? So when you cant refute it you just throw something random out?

    Ok, I'll bite. White RBs don't last. Neither do RBs who are caught on camera abusing women.

    But you obviously missed the entire point. How did they "dominating" go when the Browns already had the 2? But nobody ever said Hunt wasn't a good player. But his best year doesn't compare to just the one person I named. You talking about him makes him sound like the best back in the league.

    And please try and explain why the Chiefs would want to trade Hill for OBJ? What is the benefit for them?

    I love Riggins.  White RB's historically don't last.  Jim Brown wasn't exactly a Boy Scout with women.  OBJ is great.  Tyreek is great and plays nasty.  Like Hunt.

    @skippinturtles said:

    I love Riggins.  White RB's historically don't last.  Jim Brown wasn't exactly a Boy Scout with women.  OBJ is great.  Tyreek is great and plays nasty.  Like Hunt.

    But you are failing to answer the questions at hand. I never said that White RBs last. I never said anything about Jim Brown. And I never said anything about OBJ not being great.

    But if you want to be taken seriously, then answer a few questions.

    What is it that you have seen to show that Hunt is the most complete, dominant back (or whatever the words were you used) in the league and since Faulk? Because there is no evidence of that, as shown by the statistics.

    You referenced no white RB being sustained since Riggins. Have no issue agreeing with you there, but if you are going to use that to prove a point (even though I don't think his skin color applies), then how can using his violent history not be the same thing? And the thing is, there is actual evidence to support it with Hunt. And I am not saying he doesn't deserve this 2nd chance.

    You say Hill is great and OBJ are both great. But YOU are the one who said trade Beckham to Chiefs for Hill like it should be an easy thing. So again I will ask, WHY WOULD THE CHIEFS DO THAT? 

    And again for posterity sake, explain how what McCaffrey did this year isn't sustainable, or how his career has been more impressive than Hunt, yet Hunt is the one you seem to bet on going forward.

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    @tiamat63 said:

    You're being trolled.

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    Isn't this thread dead yet?  

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    You're being trolled.

    Hard.

    Isn't this thread dead yet?  

    @mjp28 said:

    Isn't this thread dead yet?  

    nope... still moving when it's hit...

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  • @skippinturtles said:

    I love Riggins.  White RB's historically don't last.  Jim Brown wasn't exactly a Boy Scout with women.  OBJ is great.  Tyreek is great and plays nasty.  Like Hunt.

    But you are failing to answer the questions at hand. I never said that White RBs last. I never said anything about Jim Brown. And I never said anything about OBJ not being great.

    But if you want to be taken seriously, then answer a few questions.

    What is it that you have seen to show that Hunt is the most complete, dominant back (or whatever the words were you used) in the league and since Faulk? Because there is no evidence of that, as shown by the statistics.

    You referenced no white RB being sustained since Riggins. Have no issue agreeing with you there, but if you are going to use that to prove a point (even though I don't think his skin color applies), then how can using his violent history not be the same thing? And the thing is, there is actual evidence to support it with Hunt. And I am not saying he doesn't deserve this 2nd chance.

    You say Hill is great and OBJ are both great. But YOU are the one who said trade Beckham to Chiefs for Hill like it should be an easy thing. So again I will ask, WHY WOULD THE CHIEFS DO THAT? 

    And again for posterity sake, explain how what McCaffrey did this year isn't sustainable, or how his career has been more impressive than Hunt, yet Hunt is the one you seem to bet on going forward.

    @gunz41 said:

    But you are failing to answer the questions at hand. I never said that White RBs last. I never said anything about Jim Brown. And I never said anything about OBJ not being great.

    But if you want to be taken seriously, then answer a few questions.

    What is it that you have seen to show that Hunt is the most complete, dominant back (or whatever the words were you used) in the league and since Faulk? Because there is no evidence of that, as shown by the statistics.

    You referenced no white RB being sustained since Riggins. Have no issue agreeing with you there, but if you are going to use that to prove a point (even though I don't think his skin color applies), then how can using his violent history not be the same thing? And the thing is, there is actual evidence to support it with Hunt. And I am not saying he doesn't deserve this 2nd chance.

    You say Hill is great and OBJ are both great. But YOU are the one who said trade Beckham to Chiefs for Hill like it should be an easy thing. So again I will ask, WHY WOULD THE CHIEFS DO THAT? 

    And again for posterity sake, explain how what McCaffrey did this year isn't sustainable, or how his career has been more impressive than Hunt, yet Hunt is the one you seem to bet on going forward.

    Kareem Hunt has a legendary stiff-arm.  Never fumbles.  Pure receiver.  Potential for growth.  Only 24.  Pay him and Chubb.

  • @the-gipper said:

    McCaffey was all Pro this year.  What is it about his game  that you think is non-sustainable?

    I hope CM stays healthy.  Hunt just plays so tough.  Reid knows how good he is.  You know he was sad he left.  Hunt is a lot like Brian Westbrook.

    @skippinturtles said:

    I hope CM stays healthy.  Hunt just plays so tough.  Reid knows how good he is.  You know he was sad he left.  Hunt is a lot like Brian Westbrook.

    OK, but you didn't come close to answering the question.   Why do you think that Christian McCaffery's style of play is not sustainable.  And....further, what would those reasonings have to do with the color of his skin. 

  • Why is every obvious troll job continually given life to by the same people on here? 

  • Why is every obvious troll job continually given life to by the same people on here? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Why is every obvious troll job continually given life to by the same people on here? 

    It's just in their nature.

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  • @skippinturtles said:

    I hope CM stays healthy.  Hunt just plays so tough.  Reid knows how good he is.  You know he was sad he left.  Hunt is a lot like Brian Westbrook.

    OK, but you didn't come close to answering the question.   Why do you think that Christian McCaffery's style of play is not sustainable.  And....further, what would those reasonings have to do with the color of his skin. 

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, but you didn't come close to answering the question.   Why do you think that Christian McCaffery's style of play is not sustainable.  And....further, what would those reasonings have to do with the color of his skin. 

    CM is great.  Not sure how he got in the discussion.  I like Hunt healthy and hopefully Chubb for the next 6-8 years.  Would love more.  Start drafting guards.  Protect lil' Bake and pound the rock.

  • @the-gipper said:

    OK, but you didn't come close to answering the question.   Why do you think that Christian McCaffery's style of play is not sustainable.  And....further, what would those reasonings have to do with the color of his skin. 

    CM is great.  Not sure how he got in the discussion.  I like Hunt healthy and hopefully Chubb for the next 6-8 years.  Would love more.  Start drafting guards.  Protect lil' Bake and pound the rock.

    @skippinturtles said:

    CM is great.  Not sure how he got in the discussion.  I like Hunt healthy and hopefully Chubb for the next 6-8 years.  Would love more.  Start drafting guards.  Protect lil' Bake and pound the rock.

    Since you refuse to answer the question,   I will put the words in your mouth that you refuse to say:   Answer:  "Nothing, there is nothing about McCaffrey's game that is not sustainable.  I am just  racist against white RBs". 

  • Anybody heard anything about whether or not Stefanski wants Hunt? I guess it's probably too early to know but man...I'd really like to have him back. Our red zone and goal line efficiency HAD to increase, although I don't have any stats to prove it. 

  • Anybody heard anything about whether or not Stefanski wants Hunt? I guess it's probably too early to know but man...I'd really like to have him back. Our red zone and goal line efficiency HAD to increase, although I don't have any stats to prove it. 

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Anybody heard anything about whether or not Stefanski wants Hunt? I guess it's probably too early to know but man...I'd really like to have him back. Our red zone and goal line efficiency HAD to increase, although I don't have any stats to prove it. 

    Nov 13 -.  Yes they had issues. Some was play design and calling along with the OL.

    BEREA, Ohio -- The Browns have struggled in the red zone and on the goal line this season, which is putting it kindly. It has been a grind for this team to finish drives.

    The Browns, according to the NFL’s game stats and information site, are No. 26 in red zone percentage at 46.67 percent. Near the goal line, it’s worse. According to the NFL’s game stats and information site, the Browns are No. 29 in goal-to-go percentage at 47.37 percent. Only the Lions, Jaguars and Dolphins have been worse.